Mega Edition: Transcripts From Pam Bondi's Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 1-4) (8/7/26)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Mega Edition - Transcripts From Pam Bondi's Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Parts 1-4)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: August 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

This “Mega Edition” of The Epstein Chronicles dissects the newly released congressional transcript of former U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi’s testimony on the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) handling of the “Epstein Files.” The episode features key exchanges between Bondi, congressional investigators, and various DOJ officials, focusing on the federal government’s transparency efforts, alleged cover-ups, document releases, and the ongoing quest for accountability surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and their network.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: The Congressional Interview

• Participants:

  • Jack Emmer (Chief of Counsel for Investigation, Committee on Oversight)
  • Pam Bondi (Former U.S. Attorney General, ex-FL AG)
  • Harmeet Dhillon (Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, DOJ representative)
  • Jonathan Ginn (DOJ Civil Division)
  • Various Committee Members, DOJ staff

• Purpose:
  To investigate DOJ’s handling of the Epstein and Maxwell cases, possible government failures, and to scrutinize the processes for document release under the Epstein Files Transparency Act (EFTA).

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2. Initial Ground Rules & Bondi’s Opening Statement

• Transcript Read-In:
  The interview begins with standard ground rules about procedure, truthfulness, counsel representation, document handling, and privilege.
  • Notable Quote:
    “You’re required to provide all information that would make your response truthful. A deliberate failure to disclose information can constitute a false statement.” (Emmer, 06:00)

Pam Bondi’s Opening Statement ([09:30])

• Bondi highlights pride in DOJ’s commitment to transparency during her tenure:
  • Oversaw release of nearly 3 million pages, thousands of videos, hundreds of thousands of images related to Epstein.
  • Noted investigation spanned four administrations, but “only under President Trump were 3 million Epstein related documents released.”
  • Delegated primary oversight to Deputy AG Todd Blanche.
  • Recognized errors but maintained a commitment to “accountability and transparency.”
  • Emphasized pursuit of any new evidence or victim testimony.
  • Emotional acknowledgement and apology to victims:
    “I am deeply sorry for what any victim has been through, especially as a result of that monster.” (Bondi, 10:45)

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3. Bondi’s Background & Assumption of Office

• Summary of Experience:
  • Prosecutor (18 yrs, Hillsborough County, FL), FL Attorney General (8 yrs), U.S. Attorney General (1 yr starting Feb 2025).
• On assuming office, “nothing to my knowledge” was happening on Epstein at DOJ (14:55).
• Bondi initiated immediate review and demanded all Epstein-related documents from FBI.
• The first release: ~300 documents, then more as review progressed under new leadership.

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4. The Document Review & Transparency Push

• Bondi Directed Review:

  • Internal review began within weeks of her starting as AG.
  • Expressed concern DOJ “had not turned over all the documents” despite prior denials.
  • Active pursuit and demand for further documentation, especially from FBI field offices.

• Victim Outreach:

  • DOJ received communications from multiple victims/attorneys; Bondi spoke directly with at least one attorney and referred her to FBI. “She was just concerned about being heard, and these victims being heard.” (Bondi, 17:15)

• Investigation of Co-Conspirators:

  • If evidence against co-conspirators arose, “it's any prosecutor's duty to pursue that” (Bondi, 19:30).

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5. The “Client List” Speculation and Document Releases

• Bondi clarifies viral quote about “Epstein client list” on her desk ([20:00]):

  • She meant general files, not a ready-made client list; the files included flight logs and other materials.
  • The first public release (“Phase One”) included ~200-300 pages, distributed at the White House and DOJ HQ.
  • Bondi decided what was released, prioritizing victim privacy.

• Discovery of Additional Documents:

  • Letter sent to FBI Director Patel after learning the NY field office withheld thousands more Epstein documents.

  • Source was a DOJ career prosecutor, not FBI agent.

    “I said by 8am tomorrow, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients. Regardless of how such information was obtained, there will be no withholdings...” (Bondi, 26:50)

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6. Epstein Files Transparency Act (EFTA) & Document Production

• EFTA Signed into Law (Nov 2025):
  Mandated DOJ to release all Epstein-related case material in 30 days.

• Implementation:

  • Immediate, large-scale collection and review ensued; over 500 DOJ attorneys from multiple districts involved.
  • Hurdles: tight deadline, Christmas/New Year holidays, and the scale (up to 6 million potentially responsive materials, of which 3 million released).
  • Duplicates, privileged, and unrelated documents (e.g., an unrelated case with another “Epstein” in FL) were winnowed out.

  “Our goal was to get as much out publicly that was legally permissible as fast as we could.” (Bondi, 39:00)

• Concerns Raised:

  • Main concern: protecting victim identities amidst large-scale, rapid document processing. (Bondi, 51:10)
  • Redaction errors (Bondi cited “about a 1% error rate,” though “if one victim’s name is inadvertently released, that’s a failure.”)

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7. The Ghislaine Maxwell Interview

• July 24–25, 2025:
  Deputy AG Todd Blanche interviewed Maxwell in prison, transcript later released.
  • Purpose: To obtain information on possible additional co-conspirators—“no one had taken had made an effort to interview Ghislaine Maxwell to see if she had evidence of co-conspirators and other crimes” (Bondi, 32:45).
• DOJ did not pursue further action based explicitly on Maxwell’s statements; FBI handled review of any named individuals.
• Redactions in Maxwell transcript overseen by Blanche “based on the law and what privileges would apply.”

Memorable Moment:

“Do you believe that Ghislaine Maxwell should receive a pardon?”
Bondi: “No, I believe that she should die in prison. She was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein. She recruited these young women to a life of prostitution and abuse.” ([37:58])

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8. Public and Congressional Access & Ongoing Transparency Debates

• DOJ has made millions of documents available to the public and Congress; unredacted, duplicative versions are accessible in secure reading rooms for legislators.
• Extensive efforts to unseal grand jury materials in multiple jurisdictions required by EFTA.
• Persistent public claims that files remain unreleased addressed—Bondi reiterates: “to my knowledge they’ve all been released... the unredacted versions are also available to members of Congress” ([46:40]).
• Letter exhibits detail notification and redaction policy.

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9. Redaction, Error Response, and Victim Protections

• DOJ redaction protocols spelled out by memo from Todd Blanche.
  • Victim name redaction required, list compiled and constantly updated as more names surfaced.
  • Redaction teams drawn largely from DOJ’s National Security Division for expertise/protection of confidentiality.
• On mistakes:
  • Errors (both under/over-inclusive) were corrected as soon as discovered.
  • “I would say we all believe that if one victim’s name is inadvertently released, that’s a failure.” (Bondi, 57:32)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Emmer (on legal requirements):
  “A deliberate failure to disclose information can constitute a false statement. Do you understand?” (06:00)
• Bondi (pride in transparency):
  “We demonstrated an unprecedented commitment to transparency... producing nearly 3 million pages of material, including thousands of videos and hundreds of thousands of images.” (Bondi, 09:35)
• Bondi (apology to victims):
  “I am deeply sorry for what any victim has been through, especially as a result of that monster.” (Bondi, 10:45)
• Bondi (client list rumor):
  “If you listened to the entire interview, I was referring to the file... I had not reviewed them at the time and I made that clear.” (Bondi, 20:25)
• Bondi (Maxwell):
  “No, I believe that she should die in prison. She was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein.” (Bondi, 37:58)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | Content | |---------|-----------|---------| | Ground rules and intros | 00:45–09:30 | Establishing interview process, attendees, legal reminders | | Bondi’s opening statement | 09:30–11:50 | Transparency claims, apology to victims, summary of efforts | | Bondi background & office assumption | 13:19–14:55 | Education, career, starting as AG, initial lack of DOJ action | | Launch of document review | 14:55–17:15 | Demanding documents, focus on transparency | | Victim attorney outreach | 17:15–18:40 | Interaction with a victim's attorney | | Co-conspirator investigation plans | 19:30 | Policy to pursue provable crimes | | “Client list” discussion | 20:00–21:30 | Clarification, initial file release | | Letter to FBI about documents | 26:50 | Order for complete file handover | | EFTA and 3M doc release | 39:00–41:00 | Procedures, over-collection, transparency | | Maxwell interview process | 32:45–37:42 | Purpose, redaction policy, outcome | | Redaction errors/response | 51:10–58:00 | Error rate, policy, corrections | | Maxwell should die in prison | 37:58 | Bondi's position on pardon |

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Tone and Style

The episode is fact-focused, methodical, and occasionally emotional—especially in Bondi’s remarks about victims and her condemnation of Maxwell and Epstein. The language is formal and respectful but demonstrates the host’s signature skepticism and persistent push for accountability.

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Conclusion

This “Mega Edition” meticulously unpacks the complex bureaucratic, legal, and political processes that surrounded the long-withheld “Epstein Files.” Pam Bondi stands firmly behind the DOJ’s record, but admits to inevitable errors and recurring transparency challenges. Testimony exposes the limitations, miscommunication, and procedural delays in handling one of America’s most notorious criminal conspiracies—offering rare insight for those seeking answers in the tangled fallout of Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes.

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For a closer look at the full transcript and supporting documentation, listeners are directed to the episode’s description box.

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what's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. So the Pam Bondi transcript has been released and in this episode we're going to begin taking a look at what she had to say about her part in the ongoing EPSTEIN Cover up. Mr. Emmer, we will go on the record. This is a transcribed interview of former Attorney General Pamela J. Bondi conducted by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform under the authority granted in pursuant to the House Rule X. According to House Rule X grants the committee broad jurisdiction for the committee to conduct investigations of any manner at any time. This interview was requested by Chairman James Comer as part of the committee's investigation into the circumstances and subsequent investigations into the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, the operation of sex trafficking rings and the ways for the federal government to effectively combat them, the ways in which Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell sought to curry favor and exercise influence to protect their illegal activity and potential violation of ethics rules related to elected officials. Can the witness please state her name and spell her last name for the record? Bondi. Sure. Pamela Bondi. B, O, N, D, Y. Emmer. Thank you. My name is Jack Emmer and I'm the Chief of Counsel for Investigation for Chairman James Comer. Under the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform rules, you're allowed to have one counsel present to advise you during the interview. Do you have counsel representing you in a personal capacity present with you today only as my. When I was Attorney General for the United States. And that's Harmeet Dhillon. Another winner. Another absolute moron. Harmeet Dhillon Emmer. Will counsel please identify themselves for the record? Dylan? Yes. I'm Harmeet Dhillon, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, and I'm here on behalf of the United States Department of Justice as the former Attorney General was subpoenaed and is appearing here voluntarily in her official capacity only. And accordingly, I'm here to represent the interest of the DOJ and its interest in effectuating the Transparency act and solely to be here on behalf of the doj. I'm also accompanied by one of my colleagues, and he'll state his appearance as well. Mr. Ginn. I'm Jonathan Ginn, Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Civil Division, and I'm here appearing in the same capacity as Ms. Dylan. Mr. Emmer. We have members of Congress here with us today. For the record, starting with the chairman, can members please identify themselves for the record? James Comer, chairman, Kentucky. Mr. Garcia. Ranking member. Robert Garcia. Congressman Suhas Submaranium. Yasmin Ansari. James Walkinshaw. Maxwell frost. Melanie Stansberry. Mr. Emmer, for the record, starting with the majority staff, can the additional staff members please introduce themselves with their name, title and affiliation? Billy Grant, Deputy Chief Counsel for Investigations. Chairman Comer. Daniel Ashworth, General Counsel for Chairman Comer. Ryan Giachetti, Chief Counsel for Chairman Comer. Ellison Tolan, Council for Chairman Comer. And the list goes on. We're going to pick back up with the conversation, though, Mr. Emmer. Thank you all. Attorney General Bondi. Before we begin, I would like to go over the ground rules for the transcribed interview. The questioning will proceed in rounds and the majority will ask questions for up to an hour, and then the minority will have an opportunity to ask questions for an hour if they choose. To the extent members have questions for the witness, they'll be propounded during their side's respective rounds. The clock will stop if you need to confer with council, your council speaking and when members of staff are speaking during the opposing side's rounds of questions, we will alternate back and forth until there's no more questions. Do you understand, Bondi? Yeah. Emmer. There's court reporter taking down everything I say and everything you say to make a written record of the interview. For the record to be clear, please wait until the staffer questioning you finishes each question before you begin your answer, and the staffer will wait until you finish your response before proceeding to the next question. Further, to ensure that the court reporter can properly record this transcribed interview, please speak clearly, concisely and slowly. Also, the court reporter cannot record nonverbal answers such as nodding or shaking your head. So it's important that you answer each question with an audible verbal answer. Do you understand, Bondi? Yeah. Emer. Exhibits may be entered into the record. Majority exhibits will be identified numerically. Minority exhibits will be identified alphabetically. We want you to answer our questions in the most complete and truthful manner possible, so we will take our time. If you have any questions or do not fully understand the question, please let us know. We will attempt to clarify, add context to, or rephrase our questions. If we ask about specific conversations or events in the past and you are unable to recall the exact words or details, you should testify to the substance of of those conversations or events to the best of your recollection. If you recall only part of the conversation or event, you should give us your best recollection of those events or parts of conversations that you do recall. Do you understand Bondi Yes Question Although you're here voluntarily, you're required by law pursuant to Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1001 to answer questions from Congress truthfully. This also applies to questions posed by Congressional staff in the interview. Do you understand Bondi yes if at any time you knowingly make false statements, you could be subject to criminal prosecution. Do you understand Bondi Yes. Emmer this includes knowingly providing false testimony, but also stating you do not recall or remember something when in fact you do. Do you understand Bondi Yes. Emer Furthermore, you cannot tell half truths or exclude information necessary to make statements accurate. You're required to provide all information that would make your response truthful. A deliberate failure to disclose information can constitute a false statement. Do you understand? Yes. Emer Is there any reason you're unable to provide truthful testimony in today's interview? No. Emer Please note that if you wish to assert a privilege or over any statement today, that assertion must comply with the rules of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Pursuant to that committee, Rule 16c1 states for the Chair to consider assertions of privilege over testimony or statements, witnesses or entities must clearly state the specific privilege being asserted and the reason for the assertion. Honor before the scheduled date of testimony or appearance due to do you understand Bondi Yes. Emmer Ordinarily, we take a five minute break at the end of each hour of questioning, but if you need a longer break or a break before that, please let us know and we'll be happy to accommodate. However, to the extent that there's a pending question, we would ask you to finish answering the question before we take a break. Do you understand Bondi Yes. Emer I would like to remind anyone here today that the taking of still photography and the recording of video of any part of today's proceeding is prohibited. Attorney General Bondi do you have any other questions before we begin? Bondi no. Emmer do you have an opening statement that you'll be reading into the record. Bondi. Yes, please. Emmer, you may proceed. Bondi. Good morning. Before we start today, I want to reiterate what I've said many times regarding the Department's handling during my tenure as Attorney General of the voluminous materials that are now commonly known as the Epstein Files. I'm proud of the Department's record and commitment to transparency. Under my leadership, we demonstrated an unprecedented commitment to transparency in the Department search for collection and review of the Epstein files, producing nearly three pages of material, including thousands of videos and hundreds of thousands of images. These investigations span four administrations dating back to the Bush administration and have gone on through the Obama administration, the first Trump administration, the Biden administration. The only time federal prosecutors were permitted to launch investigations against Epstein and Maxwell was when President Trump occupied the White House. Only under President Trump were 3 million Epstein related documents released. This was an enormously complicated and labor intensive process. To the best of my knowledge, the Department produced everything required under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Our diligent and good faith effort to collect materials ensured that all potentially responsive documents that could be reasonably located would see the light of day. All Department components were directed to submit any potential responsive records, resulting in a comprehensive review of millions of documents. At the head of a large department with broad responsibility, I did not lead every aspect of this effort nor conduct the document review myself. I delegated that oversight over the process to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch. The team of professionals who reviewed the material that we collected assured me the only material that were withheld were either non responsive, privileged or duplicative. Although not required by the act, the Department has given Congress access to unredacted duplicative material in the reading room in an effort to maximize transparency. There were redaction errors, but since day one of the process, the Department has been committed to accountability and transparency. Our stance has always been that the Department stands ready to review any potential evidence of criminal activity or related to Epstein and his associates and would pursue the appropriate investigations or prosecutorial actions wherever the facts and law warrant. I would like to repeat what I shared before the House Judiciary Committee in February. I've spent my entire career fighting for victims and I'll continue to do so. I am deeply sorry for what any victim has been through, especially as a result of that monster. It if they have any information to share with law enforcement about anyone who has hurt them or abused them, the FBI is waiting to hear from them. The bottom line is justice and transparency in this matter have been delivered at the direction of President Trump and his administration. Thank you, Mr. Emmer. Thank you. 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I also became the Attorney General for the State of Florida, where I served for eight years. And then for the past year I was Attorney General of the United States. Question by Emmer so let's talk about your time as Attorney General. You started in February of 2025, is that correct? Answer yes. Question by Emmer and as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein matter when you assumed office, what was the DOJ doing when I assumed regarding Epstein? EMMER Yes. BONDI When I assumed office, nothing to my knowledge and nothing had been released and I don't know if it had been requested to be released. EMMER did you direct the department to conduct a review of the Epstein and Maxwell investigation? Answer Immediately, I mean, within weeks of assuming office. Question can you describe for the committee what that looked like? Answer Yes. I spoke to the FBI and we asked them to turn over all the documents in their possession related to Epstein. EMMER and as far as those documents, what was the DOJ going to do with those documents? Provide transparency and release them to the public and to Congress, of course. EMMER and I believe you said that started immediately upon your assuming office, is that right? BONDI I believe within weeks. EMMER and as far as providing transparency, was there a specific timeline that you provided to the FBI to follow as far as releasing the documents? BONDI yeah, it was prior to Director Patel being confirmed, I believe, when the process started and we received from the FBI approximately 300 documents that were released. EMMER and to be clear, you directed this internal review of the Epstein matter. There was no other review that was occurring prior to you assuming office? Answer not to my knowledge. Question Also for the record, the Epstein and Maxwell investigation was considered closed upon you taking office? Answer to my knowledge, yes. When were you first briefed on the Epstein Maxwell matter by Bondi Initially, after we received again approximately 300 documents and those were released. And I believe that was the tip of the iceberg that that the FBI had not turned over all the documents. Director Patel eventually was confirmed and I sent him a letter asking him to look into that and give us any other documents in the FBI's possession anywhere in the country and ultimately we receive much more. Question and for the record, who would have been briefing you on the Epstein matter as far as when you took office? Bondi Todd Blanche Question what specific concerns did the department have as it related to the Epstein and Maxwell matter when you assumed office? Answer that nothing was released and again, to my knowledge, no one that that spanned the Biden administration or previously had sought to release any of the information, and I believe it was within weeks of me assuming office that we asked for and demanded all these documents. EMMER do you recall whether there were concerns that there was potentially unindicted co conspirators? Answer always, yes. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right back to the Pam Bondi transcript. EMMER so at the time that you directed this review, was there any sort of plan of what the review would consist of? BONDI well, initially, again, we only received several hundred documents and they were released upon redaction by the FBI. Then once Director Patel assumed his position, we found many more documents. And as we received those, those were reviewed and released. And we have always made it very clear that if anyone is the victim of Jeffrey Epstein, and I count Ghislaine Maxwell in there too, she's just as evil as Jeffrey Epstein was that they come forward to us, the FBI, Many of these victims are represented by lawyers and talk to us. EMMER upon taking office, did any victims or victim attorneys reach out to the department? BONDI yes. EMMER how many? BONDI I can't recall how many. I know multiple. There were multiple victims and many of which I believe the majority are represented by attorneys. EMMER did you meet with them personally or would that have been something that Todd Blanche would have done? BONDI no, I spoke to one attorney. I, I can't recall her name. She was a former prosecutor and she seemed to deeply care about these victims, of course. And I spoke to her and I believe I referred her to the FBI. You know, when a victim is represented, you go through their attorney. And I spoke to her directly. And then I know many of the lawyers in my office spoke to other attorneys and I believe the FBI spoke to multiple victims as well. But I would direct that to Deputy Attorney General, now Acting Attorney General Blanche and also Director Patel. Emmer, you would have been briefed on these meetings with victims and their attorneys, is that right? BONDI I have not been after the fact question okay. Do you have any idea what the victims and their attorneys were concerned about during the time period of February and spring of 2025? Bondi only the attorney that I spoke to and she was just concerned about being heard and, and these victims being heard. EMMER huh? Were they interested in files being released at the time? I don't recall. QUESTION okay, you mentioned Director Patel and the FBI. Were there any other agencies that were involved in the review of documents during this period? BONDI the FBI, the doj, multiple components of the doj, my National Security division at the time. And then ultimately we received multiple documents. We used attorneys from around the country, including Florida and New York. EMMER and I know I asked you about potential co conspirators earlier, but when you were reviewing these initial documents in the spring of 2025, were there ever any plans to pursue investigations into potential co conspirators? ANSWER I'm sorry, what month did you say? EMMA upon assuming office and during the spring of 2025? Bondi if there were co conspirators or evidence that anyone committed a crime that could be proven in a courtroom, it's any prosecutor's duty to pursue that. EMMER Attorney General Bondi, on February 21, 2025, just over two weeks after you were sworn in as AG, you responded to a question in an interview about a purported list of Epstein's clients by saying, it's sitting on my desk right now. Is that an accurate characterization of your statements during that interview? BONDI if you listened to the entire interview, I was referring to the file and I also included I don't have a copy of the transcript of that interview, but I kept going and said the question was, I believe, a list of clients. And I said it's sitting on my desk to review along with JFK files, MLK files I wasn't I meant the files to review. I had not reviewed them at the time and I made that clear. EMMER and I'm assuming you did ultimately review those files, is that right? BONDI yeah, along with multiple attorneys in my office. EMMER and were those files the ones that you referred to previously that the FBI produced to the DOJ upon assuming office? ANSWER yes. QUESTION thank you. BONDI and I think you clarified something for me. It was within two weeks of assuming office that I received those. So really within just a week or more, I had requested all the Epstein documents. And during this period, upon assuming office, you were interested in whether or not there was a client list of Epstein? BONDI Yes. EMMER and you directed the department to review whether there was a client list? BONDI yes. QUESTION by EMMER and those documents that you referred to as that were sitting on your desk, were those ultimately produced publicly? BONDI yes. EMMER A week later, on February 27, 2025, a group of select individuals left the White House holding white binders that contained the DOJ seal and were labeled the Epstein files. Phase 1 Do you recall this occurring? BONDI yeah, and that would include the approximately, I'm saying approximate 300 pages and I believe that included flight logs and other things, but those were the initial documents that we received. EMMER Were you involved in providing these documents to these individuals? BONDI yes. Question and ultimately whose decision was it to release the documents? BONDI Ultimately mine to release as much as we could while protecting victims identities. EMMER how were the recipients of this Phase one release elected? We were seeing them that day. They were at the White House and and we handed them the binders and then it was released to the general public as well. EMMER Were these recipients of the Phase one release also provided an opportunity to review the documents at DOJ headquarters?

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BONDI I don't believe so. EMMER so the label Epstein files, phase one, at that point, was it presumed that there would be a phase two answer? Yeah, because I didn't believe that. There were only 300 approximately pages of Epstein documents. And I had sent the FBI a letter demanding everything they had, and that meant around this country on Epstein. And that was all we received. EMMER and to be clear, was there any other release of documents prior to this committee's investigation of the Epstein files? Transparency ACT yes, multiple ones. Multiple ones. EMMER at this time, I'd like to introduce what will be marked as majority Exhibit one. And I'll give you a moment to review. Attorney General Bondi. Do you recognize this letter? BONDI yes, this is the letter that I referred to earlier, dated February 27, 2025, that I sent to Director Patel. And to clarify, I had said that we released approximately 300 maybe earlier documents. There were about 200 pages, according to the letter that I sent them. EMMER so in the letter, you claim that you learned from a source that the FBI field office in New York was withholding thousands of pages of Epstein documents despite the FBI's assurances that all relevant documents had been delivered to the Department of Justice already. In this letter, you say that you only received about 200 pages and requested an investigation into the document shortfall. Is that an accurate summary of what occurred? Yes. EMMER why do you think that this field office was withholding documents? I asked Patel to look into that. EMMER who told or who told you or brought these concerns to you that they may be withholding documents? BONDI I believe it was one of the attorneys in my office who said, I believe it was a career prosecutor who said, I think there are more documents and they're in New York. I don't believe it was an FBI agent. And then I that's when I contacted Director Patel, who by that time had assumed office. Emmer, you also stated in the letter that the FBI failed to disclose the existence of these documents after your repeated requests to turn over all documents. Is that correct? BONDI that is correct. And I said by 8am tomorrow, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients. Regardless of how such information was obtained, there will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access. The Department of Justice will ensure that any public disclosure of these files will be done in a manner to protect the privacy of victims and in accordance with the law, as I've done my entire career as a prosecutor. And the letter continues. Question and you already mentioned that you discussed this with Director Patel. Did you also discuss it with Deputy Director Bongino? I I don't know if Deputy Director Bongino had assumed his office at that point. Emmer and pursuant to your letter, did Director Patel initiate an investigation into that field office? Bondi. I believe he did. Emmer do you know what the results of that investigation were? Bondi I don't recall. Emmer Given this letter, what other steps did you take to ensure the FBI turned over any and all of the remaining withheld documents? Bondi. I relied on Patel and Deputy Attorney General Blanche. Question by Emmer. So you yourself did not ever confirm that the FBI turned over all relevant documents following this incident? Answer by Bondi. You would have to ask Director Patel. Question at this time, I would like to introduce what will be marked as majority exhibit number two. Attorney General Bondi, do you recognize this statement by Bondi? Yes. What role did you have in issuing the statement? This was. I did not have a role in issuing the statement. I believe it was done by Deputy Attorney General Blanche in conjunction with the FBI. I believe. Question and for the record, this is the 07-07-2025 DOJ, an FBI joint statement. The statement said that there was no evidence that Epstein kept a client list of associates whom he blackmailed or conspired with to victimize dozens of women. Do you know which documents the DOJ and FBI relied on in issuing the statement? Bondi I do not. You'd have to ask Deputy Attorney General. Now Acting Attorney General Blanche and Director Patel. Emmer Prior to this statement being issued, we you briefed on the review's finding that informed the statement. Bondi. Yes. Question what were you told? Bondi I don't recall other than what's in the letter. Emmer as far as conclusions of the letter itself, did you have concerns Bondi at the time? No. We relied on the documents that the FBI and DOJ received. Question. And the letter says that there was. DOJ was not able to locate a client list. Did DOJ compile a list of individuals as far as its review that may have been associated with Epstein and Maxwell? Not to my knowledge. They didn't compile a client list. To my knowledge. Question by Emmer. So for the record, is it your testimony today that the Department of Justice never had a list of Epstein's clients or associates in its possession? Bondi not to my knowledge. All right. Folks, we're gonna wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in to the transcript from Pam Bondi and her visit to Congress. Question EMMER the joint statement also said neither the DOJ nor the FBI was uncovered evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. What process did the Department of Justice undergo to determine there was no evidence to investigate any third parties? BONDI I believe the FBI thoroughly reviewed all the documents in its possession to make that determination. They are the investigative agency. EMMER huh. During the time when this statement was issued, you've mentioned that Blanche was heavily involved. Were you ever briefed on individuals of concern related to Epstein or Maxwell? BONDI I don't recall other than they were scouring through the documents and I believe there were multiple videos as well. Question as far as this initial review, did the Department of Justice conduct any interview or meeting with any individual in its efforts to determine whether further investigation was necessary? BONDI can you repeat that? EMMER as part of its review that informed the July 7 joint statement, did the Department of Justice interview any individuals outside the DOJ to inform its conclusion? BONDI I believe the FBI did, but that's a question for Director Patel. Emmer On July 24 and July 25 of 2025, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche interviewed Glenn Maxwell and the DOJ released the transcript. A month later. Attorney General Bondi why did the Department of Justice conduct this interview? I believe Deputy Attorney General now Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche has said on several occasions that Epstein by that time was dead and no one had taken had made an effort to interview Ghislaine Maxwell to see if she had evidence of co conspirators and other crimes and that's why he interviewed her. QUESTION Are you aware of whether Maxwell reached out to the Department of Justice to request this interview? Answer by Bondi I don't recall how it was initiated. Emmer so would it be safe to assume that you had no role in the determination that then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch would perform the interview? Answer oh, I knew that Todd was going to interview or yes, I believe I don't believe who initiated it. If she reached out to us, I believe I don't want to speculate, but I believe that Deputy Attorney General Blanche at the time reached out to them because there was someone still living in prison who had potential information about other co conspirators and crimes. Question by Emmer Were there any concerns at the DOJ about conducting the interview with Glenn Maxwell? Bondi no, not to my knowledge. Emmer and based on Maxwell's testimony to Todd Blanche, did the Department of Justice take any subsequent action that were informed by the testimony? Answer by Bondi I don't believe so. Now Mr. Grant jumps in and do you know why or how it became that the Deputy Attorney General Blanche would be the one to take the interview of Ms. Maxwell? Bondi he was leading the Epstein matter and the release of everything from the beginning. Deputy Attorney General now Acting US Attorney Blanche was Emmer Maxwell's attorney stated publicly that Maxwell had provided the names of a hundred different people connected to Jeffrey Epstein in the course of her two day interview. Did the Department of Justice investigate any of the individuals named in Maxwell's testimony? Bondi and I believe that entire transcript has been released and the FBI would have looked into that. That was the purpose of taking the statement. Question as far as the transcript itself and what has been released publicly, how did the Department of Justice determine which individuals would be redacted from the transcript? Bondi Deputy Attorney General Blanche made that determination based on the law and what privileges would apply. Question do you know what type of individual names were adapted in the Maxwell transcript by Bondi? I don't recall. Are you aware of whether there were any redaction errors in the transcript? I don't recall. Ultimately of course there were millions of documents released so I don't recall regarding the transcript but if there were, I do believe Deputy Attorney General Blanche, now Acting AG Blanche did everything to be sure we had complete transparency under the law. Question following the interview, Glenn Maxwell was moved by the Bureau of Prisons from a maximum security prison in Florida to a low security federal prison in Texas on August 1, 2025.

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BONDI I read about that in the newspaper or online after it happened. I had nothing to do with that. I don't want to speculate, but I believe it was for security reasons. You'd have to ask the Bureau of Prisons that question. Question? Would then Deputy Attorney General Blanche know the answer to that question? Bondi he may. And I'm not sure if he's addressed it publicly. Probably. But transferring a prisoner is the decision of the Bureau of Prisons. Question to be clear and to your knowledge, do you know if her transfer had anything to do with her participating in the interview with Todd Blanche? BONDI I have no knowledge of that. Again, I found out about it after the transfer, when it became public. Attorney General Bondi, do you believe that Glenn Maxwell should receive a pardon? No, I believe that she should die in prison. Why? She was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein. She recruited these young women to a life of prostitution and abuse. And I often think that the women that do that are just as bad, if not worse than the men, because she participated in it. Mr. Grant's asking questions again. On August 22, 2025, this committee issued a subpoena to the Department of Justice for documents pertaining to the Epstein matter. The DOJ subsequently produced approximately 33,000 documents to the committee. In this production, the DOJ indicated that multiple responsive records must also be withheld or redacted as required by applicable law, including certain grand jury material and documents containing personally identifiable information. Are you aware, Attorney General Bondi, how the DOJ initially gathered or collected necessary documents under this committee's subpoena? Answer no. And that task, I believe, was 33, 000 pages was delegated to Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward. He handled that batch of releases. Excuse me. And so it would be Mr. Woodward that would know more about the process to determine which documents fell under that subpoena? Yes. Were you ever briefed on the documents underneath that subpoena? Maybe briefly after they were released? Our goal was to get as much out publicly that was legally permissible as fast as we could. And would that redaction process for those documents be similar to what the Department of Justice was already doing as far as making sure no personal information was getting out there because it was required by law? Yeah. And I believe that Stanley Woodward was the one again who supervised that release. Question and in this matter, who at the Department of Justice would have been actually doing those redactions? Staff attorneys, Other attorneys at Main Justice? Someone else? Answer, I believe it was attorneys. Multiple attorneys at the Department of Justice, even some again from the National Security Division. And again, ultimately attorneys from all over the country were pulled in to help once we received the millions of pages of documents. But initially we did have attorneys from within the Department of Justice and the FBI, I believe, working on those redactions. Question. And are you aware of attorneys at the Department of Justice having to undergo any type of training as far as redactions go? I believe they did. And that would have been supervised by Todd Blanche. Was there any criteria for which attorneys get selected to do redactions that you're aware of, Bondi? I recall we used attorneys from the National Security Division as much as we could because they have top security clearance and the goal was to protect the victims identities. And are you aware of why the DOJ only produced 33,000 documents pursuant to the committee subpoena? Answer I believe because that was all they had at the time and we would have had to ask Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward that question. Now Mr. Emmer is asking questions once again. Let's talk about the Epstein Files Transparency act. And for the record, the EFTA was signed into law November 19th of 2025, requiring you, the Attorney General at the time, to release all documents related to the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein within 30 days and making them publicly available in a searchable format. What was your role in carrying out the Epstein Files Transparency Act? Answer Todd Blanch supervised that entire process. To back up for a minute, though, the office did ask for those files prior to the Transparency act be unsealed by the courts and in multiple jurisdictions. I believe it was SDFL and SDNY and those requests were denied and it was not until the Transparency act that we were able to receive those documents. Question so there were existing efforts to release documents prior to the Epstein Files Transparency Act? Answer Yes. Question so what was your response to the Epstein Files Transparency act being passed? Bondi we were able to receive many more documents based on the act. We were able to unseal the grand jury. We made a motion to unseal the grand jury documents in Epstein and Maxwell and that also included the Epstein when he died. Excuse me, that also included when Epstein died in prison. It included, I believe a prison guard case somewhere, Epstein cases in both jurisdictions and Maxwell's cases. And you said the effort was directed by Todd Blanche, is that correct? Yes. How frequently did you meet with Todd Blanche after the Epstein Files Transparency act was passed? I spoke with Deputy Attorney General practically every day about countless issues around not only the country but the world that we were dealing with. As to details on it, I don't know. I don't recall how often in relation to EFTA and the Department's obligation they're under. What concern was or did Todd Blanche express concerns as far as releasing documents? What was he saying? And to this Harmeet Dhillon jumps in. I'm just going to point out that you can answer that to the extent that it doesn't reveal protected communication. Bondi I can say I believe everyone was concerned about protecting victim identity given the 6 million pages of documents that was received and only a 30 day timeline to comply with with the process. Mr. Emmer and we're going to talk more in detail about what was produced. But to start, how did Department of Justice initially gather or collect necessary documents or material that complied with the Epstein File Transparency Act? Bondi can you repeat that question? How did the Department of Justice initially gather or collect the necessary documents or material that complied with the Epstein File Transparency Act? Answer well, as I stated earlier, the Department made motions to unseal things that were previously withheld from the U. S by the courts and requested everything we possibly could, which is why there was an over collection in documents as well as from the jurisdictions. And again, that included the death of Epstein, Glenn Maxwell's case, both of all of Epstein's cases in the multiple jurisdictions. Question to the best of your knowledge, what was the process to determine which documents and material fell under the Epstein File Transparency Act? Answer I believe we collected everything possible out there related to Epstein, which is why there was such an over collection as well. Question and again, then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was overseeing the efforts, is that right? Answer yes, Todd Blanche oversaw the entire investigation and he has made multiple statements and done multiple interviews regarding that. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right back to Pam Bondi and the transcript from her meeting with Congress. Question so let's talk about that 30 day timeline. Was the Department of Justice able to produce all documents within the 30 days? Bondi no. And that is when I became more involved because we had over 500 attorneys, I believe, working around the clock to do the best we could in good faith to release as many documents as we could within 30 days while protecting the identity of the victims. And I do recall very vividly that these lawyers were working over Christmas, New Year's holidays to get that done some late into the night, I mean 1 2am question and you mentioned 500 attorneys. Bondi plus question where did they come from? Bondi they came from our National Security Division. They came from, I believe, sdny, the Northern District of New York and Florida. Todd Blanche recruited attorneys within our office to come in and complete this herculean task of millions of documents within 30 days to the best that we could to protect victims. Question I would presume that the 500 attorneys had other roles and responsibilities that they were to handle at the department during the period? They absolutely did, yes. Question Were there concerns about diverting resources? Answer yes. And to clarify, some may have taken this on full time, but I believe many of them had other roles going on at the same time as well. EMER We've had another member join us. Can he please identify himself for the record? Mr. Khanna Ro Khanna, California 17 Emmer and I know that you've already mentioned how many documents were produced, but again, for the public, how many total documents or materials did the Department of Justice produce to the public pursuant to the Epstein File Transparency act? Bondi Approximately 3 million question and there has been public statements, I believe that then Deputy Attorney General Blanchet said at one point there were 6 million total potentially responsive material. Is that right? Bondi he did and he's clarified that multiple times I believe publicly indicating that a lot much of it was duplicative because it was coming from two districts, some was privileged and also he stated that some of the material had absolutely nothing to do with Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein it was over collection in an effort to ensure radical transparency for the country. Question so to be clear, there has been a lot said and accusations that the the Department didn't produce everything. Attorney General Bondi Are there any documents remaining in possession of the Department of Justice that are required to be released pursuant to the Epstein File Transparency Act? Answer to my knowledge they've all been released. To my knowledge. Question why do people keep asking for the files to be released then? Answer the unredacted versions are also available to members of Congress including duplicative material. So and I believe that's still available so people can so Congress can go and see it for themselves. The 6 million pages versus why 3 million was released and much of it was duplicative or privileged or completely unrelated to Jeffrey Epstein. At this time I would like to introduce what will be marked as Majority Exhibit 3. And this is a letter that was sent from the Department of Justice to Senators and members of Congress on January 30th. Mr. Emmer I would also like to introduce what will be marked as Majority Exhibit 4. This is also a letter that was sent on February 14th of 2026.

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[Jack Emmer]

Emmer and I'll give you a moment to review. Attorney General Bondi, you've had a chance to review the documents. These are the notifications that you provided Congress pursuant to the Epstein File Transparency Act. Answer Yes. Question and again you touched on it previously, but there were certain categories of documents that were not produced. Is that right? Answer yes. Question and again you I believe one class was duplicative documents. And for the record, I know that you've been an attorney for many years. Can you just explain again what qualifies as duplicative documents? Sure. The same document being released twice. And that occurred, I believe, because there were documents in multiple districts within the country. Specifically, I believe the Southern District of Florida and the Southern District of New York. Question and understanding that then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was overseeing the efforts of did he ever brief you on how many documents were considered to be duplicative? Not specifically, but I believe it was approximately 3 million, I believe. Oh, duplicative. No, I don't. I'm sorry, I don't recall how many were duplicative. And there were certain documents that were privileged? Yes. Can you elaborate more on why those can't be produced? I can give you an example. Which would be a prosecution memo is privileged Question and who made that determination whether a document was considered to be privileged? Todd Blanche, while following the law. Question and Todd Blanche never approached you about any specific document as it relates to privilege? Bondi probably. I don't recall specifically, but we probably talked about it. I talk to him every day about multiple issues around the country and the world. And I know you touched on this previously, but the Department of Justice, according to the letters, said that there were certain files that were being withheld that are not part of the case file for Epstein or Maxwell and were completely unrelated to the case. Is that right? Yes. Can you give us an example of what that would be? What would have been captured by that? I believe an example that Todd Blanche used was there was someone else and in South Florida with the name of Epstein, an entire case that had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. That would be an example of it. Question and for the record, recognizing that you had to conduct a search and it produced millions of documents. If those documents were determined to have nothing to do with Epstein or Maxwell case, why were they Originally included in this search that the Department of Justice conducted, we wanted to have radical transparency and find everything that was related to Jeffrey Epstein, and that's why the search was overboard. Thank you. I want to talk about the redactions that were in the files. What was the Department of Justice redaction process for documents released under the Epstein File Transparency Act? I believe that it listed is one of Todd Blanche's memos, and he was in charge of the process and the entire release of the Epstein files. And during the process, when you were preparing documents to be produced, were there concerns about what should or should not be redacted? I believe so. Did you have concerns? Yeah, I have grave concerns about victims names being released because of the volume of documents and the time frame in which those documents had to be released. And I believe most people in the office shared those same concerns. Question and were the guidelines in place for DOJ employees on how to make redactions? Answer. I believe Deputy Attorney General Blanche, now Acting Attorney General Blanche, laid out those guidelines for the reviewers, the attorney who reviewed the material, and I believe some of it, the protocol is listed in the memos as well. Question. Are you aware of whether the DOJ employees tasked with conducting redactions, whether they had to undergo any kind of training? I don't recall. I believe so. I'm not certain. And I recognize that you may have briefly touched on this, but were there any criteria for the attorneys that were selected to make the redactions? Criteria about the attorneys themselves, as far as the 500 attorneys that were selected to contribute to the effort, yeah. As I recall, we used many from our National Security Division because they're highly qualified and also deal with protecting victims and confidential information on a routine basis, but as well as prosecutors from multiple jurisdictions. But how they were specifically chosen, I'm not sure. Attorney General Bondi, did you yourself ever redact documents produced under the Epstein File Transparency Act? No. Question. Were you consulted as to whether or not something should be redacted? I don't believe so. Emmer, I would now like to introduce what will be marked Majority Exhibit five. And I'll give you a moment to review. This is the Department of justice memorandum dated January 4, 2026, entitled Attorney Review Protocol for Epstein Files. Bondi. Yeah. And this is from the Deputy Attorney General's office? Yeah. Attorney General Bondi, do you recognize the document? Yes, I have not read it in its entirety. Is this document that you were referring to when I asked you whether there was a process for DOJ employees to redact? Yes, you asked about training. Yes. And this is a very detailed memo as to what specifically under the law can be released and what should be redacted according to the document. And specifically, on the top of page six, there is a highly confidential list of victim names that must be redacted. Are you aware of a list of victim names that needed to be redacted? BONDI yeah, not specifically what victim, but I believe that list kept growing as well. Question and I believe that you mentioned this before. This was one of your main concerns as part of producing the documents under the efta, is that right? Bondi yes. Question Were any victims or their attorneys contacted for the creation of this list? BONDI I believe so. Was the Department of Justice contacted by victims or their attorneys to create the list? I believe so. I also believe the list was ongoing. And while the redactions were being done, I recall we would receive more victim names. Therefore, the attorneys doing the redactions would have to go back and search for the additional names as well. Question what information would have been used to inform the list of victim names after the redaction? BONDI I don't recall. QUESTION Is it safe to assume that Todd Blanche would have been the individual who would have approved the list? Yes. Question Understanding the time constraints related to 30 days of redacting millions of pages of documents, it seems that there was some redaction mistakes. Is that correct? And these redaction mistakes were both under inclusive and over inclusive, how did that happen? Answer I believe given the volume of documents and again the intense short time frame in which hundreds of lawyers were working around the clock, even on holidays, to get these documents out, there were mistakes. I believe Todd Blanche said It was about 1% error rate. But I would say we all believe that if one victim's name is inadvertently released, that's a failure. Question if the department was made aware of a mistake and how did it respond? By correcting that mistake as fast as we could. Question and again, would that have been fallen to then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche? Yes. Did he brief you on certain mistakes? Not specifically, just that I recall when a victim's name everyone was upset when a victim's name got released inadvertently. As far as the victims themselves and those that may have been inadvertently unredacted in the files, did they reach out to you? Answer I don't believe so. And I believe I saw online one victim's name and she said she her name had been released and that was really the extent of my involvement on that. I called Todd right away instead of victim is saying her name was released and it shouldn't have been, but it would have been something that I saw online. Question did the Department of justice have any avenues for individuals whose names may have been redacted or unredacted in the files to reach out to the department and remedy the situation? I don't recall that process, how that process worked, and that could have been done with the FBI. Question Was there a team in charge of checking for and correcting any errors made in the release of the files? Yes, done at the direction of Todd Blanche. Do you have any idea of how many corrections were made? Answer I don't all right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

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