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The Epstein Chronicles
Mega Edition: Was Jeffrey Epstein Really An Intelligence Asset? (8/8/26)
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The conversation surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and possible ties to intelligence has existed for years because of the people he associated with, the way he operated and the extraordinary protection he appeared to receive. One of the biggest reasons for...
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has ignored the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was connected to intelligence. And after his death, they continued to ignore it. They acted like anybody who talked about that sort of thing is a conspiracy theorist and there's no evidence or proof. Meanwhile, anybody who's been following the case or had dug even a little bit deeper than the surface understood what was really going on here. You didn't need to be an investigator to figure out what was going on here. You didn't need to be some sort of, you know, professional prosecutor to understand that Epstein was being protected from on high. But the legacy media willingly ignored all of it. And now that Epstein has been dead and actual investigative journalists and researchers have been digging into the case, now the legacy media wants to jump on board and say, oh, well, Epstein might have been connected to intelligence. He might have been a spy. Yeah, no shit. Welcome to the party Palace. Today's article is from Fox News, and it's basically what I just talked about. Now the headline is, Jeffrey Epstein's Alleged Spy Ties under Fresh Scrutiny and New Book. Before, they wouldn't even run stuff like this on like Fox News Or CNN or anything like that. And not that I find any of these outlets credible, because I do not. But I just find it hilarious that a few months ago everybody was a conspiracy theorist and, and now all of a sudden the legacy media is jumping on board. It's just, just like with Twitter, how they banned people. When this whole entire Covid 1919 thing started, they were banning people who were saying that it could have been a leak from a lab, not that it was a chemical weapon released on the populace by the Chinese government, but a mistake. And it could have, you know, left the lab and contaminated the food market, et cetera, et cetera, whatever it may be, but no way the legacy media couldn't have it. You can't run a narrative counter to ours and their friends over at Twitter. Slit, cut, cut it back. And then started throwing people off of Twitter and canceling their accounts over it. Meanwhile, it starts to come out. Now that there, that, that kind of, that story there has legs. That, that's definitely an option, that's definitely a possibility. See, the legacy media, what they want to do is control the narrative at all costs. And they, they, they're very good at it. They've been doing it forever. And now that other people are getting involved, a citizen, journalists and investigative journalists, et cetera, et cetera, they're losing their grip on the narrative and they understand that they are no longer in control and they better get with the times. So you're seeing a lot more of the legacy media now starting to pick up on what was used to be considered a conspiracy theory. But for us that have been following the case, we know it's not a conspiracy theory. We know it's a cover up. All right, so headline Jeffrey Epstein's alleged spy ties under fresh scrutiny and new book. Again, this is obvious on foxnews.com and the author is Holly McKay. The life and death of Jeffrey Epstein remain something of a sordid mystery movie. Say that again. More than 10 months since his shocking death, it is still unclear how the disgraced financier pedophile rose through the ranks to amass a black book of high profile contacts and world leaders. Why he was able to enter such a quietly negotiated sweetheart plea deal in 2007 despite a sex offender conviction, the conditions of which he was left to supposedly take his own life in a Manhattan jail cell. And precisely how the self styled billionaire financier pedophile made his many millions. And there are many different avenues to explore. Jeffrey Epstein, when he was at Bear and Stearns, you know, he was involved in some scumbaggery, you know, he was involved in some fraudulent money crimes, and he just built on that going forward. The man. Look, for all of his disgusting faults, the man knew how to manipulate the financial system. He knew how to launder money. He knew how to finesse Title 31 regulations. And this was a man who was able to do all of that, not just because he was slick, not just because he understood the financial system, but because his friends were the ones who wrote the laws. His friends were the ones who advised him how to use those loopholes. And. And those friends are the same people. People are putting up on a pedestal and worshiping as these fantastic politicians who care about us. Breaking news, everybody. They do not care about you. A recently released book purports to shed light, at least on the latter, revealing that he may have had. He may have made at least some big bucks and granted something of a free pass for his decades of wrongdoing through covert intelligent intelligence action. Well, Fox News, it's about time that you have something like this on your website. I mean, it's obvious that Epstein had ties to intelligence. It's obvious that Acosta was told to keep his hands off of Epstein for that very reason. And it is also obvious that the CIA has their thumbprints everywhere in this case. Again, I know a lot of people want to foist all the blame on the Mossad here. I'm not one of those people. Do I believe the Mossad played their role? Absolutely. Do I believe that they were the ones who came up with the plot? Probably. But as far as facilitating it in the United States of America, there is zero chance that the Mossad was doing this covertly. There is zero chance of it, people. The CIA knows all. And if you think that an operation like this was being run by just the Mossad, you are not paying attention because Jeffrey Epstein was being worked by multiple intelligence services, multiple folks. While the notion of Epstein as a spy has long run rampant in the rumor mill, the book Dead Men Tell no Tales, authored by Dylan Howard, Melissa Cronin, and James Robertson, proclaims that he had ties to Mossad, the Israeli National Intelligence Agency, and a shout out to Melissa Cronin. She does great work. She's really fantastic. And I really enjoyed this book. Epstein, Dead Men Tell no Tales. And I highly suggest that you pick it up if you haven't yet. I'm going to try and reach out to Melissa Cronin as well and see if maybe she wants to pop onto the podcast and talk with us about her book. When we set out to write a book about his crimes, we thought we
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
knew the whole story.
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Podcast Host / Epstein Case Commentator
Before long, however, what we uncovered was compelling evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy, largely for Israel's Mossad, and allowed to operate in the United States seemingly without consequence. Dylan Howard told Fox News, this is a much bigger story than the world has ever known and is continually being ignored and glossed over in much of the new reporting about Epstein 100%. Dylan Howard, my man, this is what we need. We need people like him and Melissa Cronin and the rest of these folks when they come on to shows like this. It's, it does the whole case good because these are people that know what they're talking about. These are people that have researched what is going on and these aren't people that are shooting from the hip. They aren't just throwing out pie in the sky conspiracy theories. These are well thought out, well researched avenues of discussion here. And the mainstream media, legacy media, has done us such a disservice by not, by not putting their, their feet all the way into the water here and just dipping a toe in. We need a full, a full investigation into all of this, all the different threads, all of the different people involved, etc. Etc. What we need is an all encompassing documentary, one that touches on everything. You know, I'm talking a 10 part series where we can really delve into everything. If I had the ability to do something like that, that is what I would put all of my time and effort into is making a documentary, an all encompassing documentary that spans 10 episodes that really digs into everything that is right below the surface, talks about all the players, the Dubins, the Wexner's, etc, etc, we really need something like that in this case. Indeed, Epstein's political associations over the years were numerous ranging from President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton and the UK's Prince Andrew and former Prime Minister Tony Blair to Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Now look, those of you who know me know that my core of study has been the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. And when it comes to Saudi Arabia and it comes to sick behavior by these, these sort of people, these royals, these sultans, these oil barons within Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, I can completely confirm that some sordid, disgusting shit takes place. Now I'm not going to jump into details of that here on the podcast because it's not really relevant. But what I will say is, you can always, you know, have an idea about by the company they keep, Right? And what Epstein, the way he would hang out with these disgusting oil barons. What do you think he was just over there discussing business, folks, or do you think he was partaking in whatever sick, sorted. I don't even want to talk. I don't even want to think about what was going on in places like that. He, Epstein, used his power to exploit the vulnerable and underaged, all the while covering his tracks with the innermost circles of the establishment. He used his access to trap the rich and famous and traded in the dirt he had on them to the world's most secretive intelligence agencies. Howard continued, the conclusion of our reporting is clear. Epstein was a spy running a complex intelligence operation for the purpose of blackmailing powerful individuals and politicians in the United States and abroad. But for whom? And that is the lingering question for those of us who have been following the case. Right, we know he's being run by intelligence services, and in my opinion, like I've said, he is probably an asset of Mossad. But I believe the overarching picture is being painted by the CIA. Nobody is going to convince me the CIA's dirty fingers weren't all over this. Zero chance that that happens, and zero chance anyone can convince me of that without a lot of strong evidence. Epstein himself was purportedly known to tell others that he had dirt on powerful people, raising red flags as to whether prom individuals were either lured into his illicit sex ring and then forced to pay up or keep quiet. And we know that's the case. We know that there's dossiers on all of these people. And we also know, which not many people talk about, but it's something I've hammered home here on this podcast, is that the academics that were around Jeffrey Epstein were very guilty. They are very much involved in this. And in my opinion, they are also passing on science secrets to Jeffrey Epstein too. Classified projects, etc, etc. And what he did with those, in my estimation, was he sold those to foreign intelligence agencies. My friends, how much more of a perfect picture do you need painted before you understand that this man, this disgusting piece of human excrement, Jeffrey Epstein, was working for intelligence. Soon after Epstein was arrested by federal officials at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey last year on a fresh round of trafficking charges. Then U.S. secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta came under fire for his role in overseeing the 2007 Epstein deal while a US attorney in Miami. Again, Acosta a part of the plot, right? Definitely a yes man, but it went much higher. Than that. Folks, don't, don't just focus on Acosta like they try to make you do. You gotta dig deeper. It's easy just to say, oh well, this is all Acosta's fault. But that's not how it works in the Justice Department. For something like that, that has to get kicked all the way up top. That's a Mukazi type deal. So we have to dig deeper there. And don't get me wrong, Acosta deserved to be fired and he should have resigned. But if we, if we act like the buck just stops there, we're never going to dig deep enough.
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Podcast Host / Epstein Case Commentator
moreover, questions still swirl as it pertains to his once girlfriend, co conspirator and confidant, Ghislaine Maxwell, who has been widely accused of aiding his solicitation of underage girls for sex. And, and how and why she has flown under the radar since his arrest by the FBI last summer and his subsequent, his subsequent death. Well, we know why she's still being protected. If Jeffrey Berman was serious about his job, if Jeffrey Berman really wanted to bring justice to these survivors, he'd send out his boys, the G men, to go and swoop Ghislaine Maxwell up and get this party started. Now, we have seen some movement, looking like there's some things going on behind the scenes, but we don't have any concrete evidence one way or the other. Right? So Ghislaine Maxwell, somehow, some way, is still ducking and dodging justice. A Page Six report earlier this year cited an unnamed source indicating that she had intelligence ties of her own, thus is protected because of the information she has on the world's most powerful people and was being kept in, in safe houses. Look, she is definitely being protected. We the, the government has the ability to find people no matter where they are in the world for the most part. Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell is pulling the hokey dokie on the federal government. She's being protected for sure by the same services that are supposed to be looking for her. That is definitely where I'm at. That is most certainly my opinion at this point. Maxwell's own father, British press baron Robert Maxwell, was plagued by conspiracies that he too was an undercover intelligence operative for Israel. That's not a conspiracy theory. You don't get a state run funeral the way Bob Maxwell got. If you didn't, you know, you weren't helping out the nation of Israel.
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
Stop it. Just stop it.
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Podcast Host / Epstein Case Commentator
It's obvious, okay, it is rather obvious that Robert Maxwell was not only a spy for Israel, but but that he had connections to the CIA and also the kgb. Much of the explosive claims made in the new book come from the Iranian born, self proclaimed former Israeli spy Ari Ben Monash, who says he served as the handler for Robert Maxwell and introduced Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein and Mossad. We've heard that earlier on in the case, we talked about this. We talked about Ari Ben Minash and what he had to say. And he's credible. What he has to say is credible, folks. And of course the establishment's going to deny it. Of course they're going to try and destroy him. And hit him with a hatchet job because they don't want to lose their hold on the narrative. Remember, information is the most precious and expensive commodity. However, Israel denied Minash's intelligence links soon after he was arrested in 1989 in the US on charges of arms dealing with. However, he was acquitted the following year. Oh, I'm sure he was. I'm sure George Bush and his CIA ties stepped right in to make sure that the arms dealer was acquitted and he was back in action doing whatever it is that the CIA had planned for him. Mr. Epstein was the simple idiot who was going around providing girls to all kinds of politicians in the United States. See, effing around is not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not a crime. But having sex with a 14 year old girl is a crime, a passage attributed to Ben Minash reads in the book. And he was taking photos of politicians effing 14 year old girls. If you want to get it straight, they would just blackmail people. They would just blackmail people like that. And folks, we know that this is the case and we get more confirmation here from Ari Ben Minash, but we know from the survivors themselves what was going on here. All of this is just butter on
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
the bread for me, or like I,
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like I always say, a little more meat on the bone, right? The more meat on the bone, the better the dish. And that's what's going on here. So it's a slow trickle, but eventually it's going to build up to a huge gusher. And that's where we're at right now because we're hearing from guys like Ari Ben Minash, we're hearing from the authors of the book, Melissa Cronin, etc. Etc. And more and more the legacy media is being forced to understand that this is not a conspiracy theory, that this is not just some BS we were throwing against the wall here. This is a cover up of epic proportions that spans continents, folks. Nonetheless, the unanswered questions as they pertain to Epstein still abound. According to Dylan, Epstein used the classic honey trap, or love trap as it is sometimes known, to build his blackmail files. We called this out from the very beginning as somebody who has spent many, many, many, many, many, many hours researching the Middle east and the geopolitical situation in Gaza, the West Bank, Israel, Syria, etc, etc. This is a hallmark of the Mossad. They love setting up honey traps. You know how many imams they've caught up in this? How many members of Hamas they've caught up in this? And then they've used that information to turn them into assets. For them, this is as this is. This was old when Babylon was young, folks. Even for those who did not fall for his ruse, their simple presence in his orbit was enough for Epstein to gather intelligence. He said Epstein was calculated. He rubbed shoulders with those who could unwittingly provide him information and intelligence. For sure, that was his M.O. his whole entire plan and plot was to get on the inside and either ag compile dossiers on these people so he could blackmail them or try and pilfer information any way he could. And while the criminal case against Epstein was subsequently dropped as a result of his death, civil suits put forward by alleged survivors of his purported sex ring and squabbles over his estate and finances continue. Just last week, a leading law enforcement official in the US Virgin Islands where Epstein owned his islands demanded to know why Epstein's estate has not yet explained irregularities in a series of unexplained transactions involving some $39 million before and after his death, according to the New York Times. Well, we talked about that as well. There's a lot of money irregularities here, all right? A lot of irregularities with money. So I don't understand how just that alone doesn't have all of these people brought in on RICO indictments. In a court filing last week, Denise George, the Attorney General for the US Virgin Islands, stated that she was against removing a criminal activity lien she placed on his $600 million estate given the sex trafficking indictment filed by the DOJ before he died. She pointed to the unrecognized $39 million worth of transactions pertaining to Southern Country International, an international banking entity Epstein set up in 2014 to handle funds only from non dom customers. George thus stated that some of the transactions seemingly breached the bankers charter. Yeah, of course they do. What do you think there is that just happened? Because the regulators set it up that way so that people on their island wouldn't be getting scammed out of Jeffrey Epstein. But the rest of us? Bah, who cares? Let them all get scammed.
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
Let Epstein make a killing on the
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Podcast Host / Epstein Case Commentator
rest of the people. Again, another reason why I am not a fan of the Virgin Islands trying to set themselves up as some sort of victim. In this case, Fox News cannot independently verify the spy claims set out in the book. But it may all just be the tip of the iceberg. Howard noted that others have more recently reached out with first hand avowals of Epstein's intel ties. I do not believe Epstein worked exclusively for the Mossad I believe many countries sought information from him and he also shopped information to the highest bidder. It also helps explain how Epstein was able to build a puzzling billion dollar fortune. Howard added. So not only was Epstein running a shocking criminal enterprise as described by the FBI, but it was one of the deep business intelligence ties across a number of countries. Folks, how long have I been telling you this? How long have I been sitting here yelling and screaming from the mountaintops about this?
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
Months.
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Podcast Host / Epstein Case Commentator
Months and months and months. I'm so happy to see that Melissa Cronin and Dylan Howard wrote this book because it really does shed some light on what's going on. And if you have not picked this book up yet, I highly suggest you do grab it, read it and like usual process the information for yourself. Follow the evidence for yourself, folks. You know, that's what I'm always talking about here. Don't believe anybody. Follow the evidence for yourself. Do the research, do the legwork. And when you read all of these articles and you put them together and you start following the breadcrumbs, when you get to the destination that you seek, it is jaw dropping what you find. And books like this and books like Bradley Edwards book though, it's very, they're very important additions if you are really serious about finding the truth in this case. All right folks, if you'd like to contact me, you could do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter at B O B B ycapucci what's up everyone?
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Virginia Roberts had a post on Twitter where she was asking if anyone else believed that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy and he was working for the Mossad or the CIA. And I think this is probably the question I get the most when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and how he was able to do what he was able to do. And I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein was your traditional spy, if you will, but I think he was an asset that was being run by multiple agencies. And was there some overlap with the CIA and the Mossad? Oh, I'm sure there was, but there's a lot of people out there that act like Jeffrey Epstein was a legit Mossad spy. Like he went to spy school in Israel and the rest of it. And that's just not the case. So for me, there's zero doubt that this Guy was an asset, but a full blown spy in the traditional sense of the word? I don't think so. Look, these intelligence agencies, they recognize tools that they can use to perpetrate whatever sort of scheme or plot that they have. But the second that the asset's usefulness has worn out, or if the asset is deemed to be somebody that might expose the rest of the operation, that asset will get burned. And considering Jeffrey Epstein's fate, I don't think it's that big of a leap to say that that's what happened here. Now, I'm not saying that they killed him per se, but what message is, did Tartaglioni give Jeffrey Epstein in that cell when they were in that cell together and Tartaglioni allegedly assaulted him? I have always believed that that assault was a message being passed to Epstein by somebody who that somebody is. I won't sit here and make pretend I know. But considering all of the coincidences surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death, considering the fact that all this information was about to come spilling out, you would have to think that there's a lot of powerful people out there and that aren't too comfortable or weren't too comfortable with that information about to make its way into the public. So I've always believed that there's way more to this story with Nicholas Tartaglioni than they've ever let on. And we only got a little portion of that story. And even in the OIG report that some people point to as if it's some kind of bible or something, we got barely a mention of what happened with Tartaglione. And then we hear about the lame ass investigation that they kicked off in the aftermath of it. Basically just asking him, did you do this? He says no. And then they move on. Then you move into the area where the tape has been destroyed or it's been lost, you know, all of it. And for me, none of the explanations that I've been given by the powers that be have been good enough explanations. And in fact, they only open up more questions. So moving on to the article from Newsweek and the headline, prince Andrew's Accuser Shares Jeffrey Epstein's Spy Theory. This article was authored by Jack Royston. Prince Andrew's accuser posted a link to a Reddit post suggesting Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad or CIA spy. Virginia Roberts sued the Royal for sexual assault in London, New York and the US Virgin Islands. When they settled out of court in 2022 for an undisclosed sum, Andrew acknowledged that she was an Epstein sex trafficking victim. The Prince denied the allegations against him. Imagine trying to get off with that nonsense. Yeah, I'm gonna deny these allegations, but let me give you this bag real quick. Conspiracy theorists. Boy, that's a hoot. Have long speculated about whether Epstein's wide ranging sexual abuse was part of an elaborate campaign to acquire compromising material about high profile figures and politicians on behalf of intelligence agencies. NEWSWEEK has no definitive evidence to back up this account and no official confirmation, but it's not entirely without foundation.
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I don't think there's any doubt that good old Jeffrey Epstein was being run as an asset. Now who his handler was who was in charge of it all? I have no idea. And all the people out here that pump the BS like they know. Well, I'd like to see the proof. Remember, big claims require big proof. And when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and people who say that they have proof, who said that they have all this evidence, well, I'm a trust but verify kinda guy at this point, if you get my drift. Considering all the grifters and snake oil salesmen and bullshit artists that have made their way through this whole thing, I think that at this point, it's either put up or shut up for me. But as far as the overall question, was he working for spy agencies? Was he an asset? I think the answer is definitively yes. The part that's still murky is who he was working for in the first place. And I have my suspicions that it wasn't just one intelligence agency. Now, I think that Epstein was a tool of the United States government, at least as far as being used as a snitch. And folks, you don't avoid going to prison in all of the scandals that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in throughout all of these years, if you're not working with the government, he was making the same moves like Whitey Bulger. The question is, who was Jeffrey Epstein's handler? And I think it's a long shot of long shots that we're ever gonna find out who that handler was. Roberts posted a link on Twitter to a Reddit post that asked, does anyone else here believe Epstein in all likelihood was a Mossad CIA linked intelligence agent that was responsible for helping run a blackmail honeypot ring to entrap elite oligarchs? And yeah, look, there's a lot to that. There's no doubt that Epstein delved in information. And when you get to the level that these people are at, information is worth more than even money. But I think it even went deeper than that. Remember that Jeffrey Epstein was always hanging out with these scientists too. Ask yourself why. What sort of projects were these scientists working on? And were any of those projects top secret? And if they were, what was Epstein doing with the information that he was getting from these scientists? That's a question that is very rarely asked. But for me, when I went to New Mexico and I went down to the Santa Fe Institute, there was way too many questions that needed to be answered. And still to this day, those questions remain unanswered. And a lot of it has to do with Epstein and his dalliances with the scientific community. Based off all of Epstein's known dubious Activities. The post added across the vast wealth obvious connections to the Israeli Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was Robert Maxwell, a powerful British oligarch with Mossad ties. And Epstein's suspicious murder, that's been covered up as a suicide? I think a strong argument can be made. Epstein was indeed an intelligence agent who helped run a blackmail honeypot operation that most likely is still running to this day. Well, in some form. Well, you think they just gave up when their buddy Jeffrey Epstein ended up sleeping with the fishes? Zero chance. Look, when these guys latch onto a scheme that works, the scheme is going to keep going on. The players are going to change. But the scheme itself. Well, it was effective then, it'll be effective now. And please make no mistake, Jeffrey Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg. It's important to state that there is no on the record confirmation from the US or any other intelligence that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy. In addition, his cause of death in 2019 was recorded by suicide by hanging by the New York City's Medical Examiner's office. Well, that clears it up for me, because the New York Medical Examiner's Office says that it was a suicide. Time to pack it up, folks. Nothing left to see here. Let's just go ahead and move on with our lives and our business. Everything that happened in that jail cell on the up and up, everything that happened with Epstein from the time of his incarceration until the time of his death. If you think anything besides what was in that OIG report, you're a conspiracy theorist. That's basically what the legacy media would have people believe. But the reality is this. The legacy media, like usual, is late to the party. And like usual, they have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. However, this is not the first time it has been suggested that the New York financier. Financier, is it? You mean pedophile, right? Mr. Royston may have had links to the intelligence community. The 2019 book, Epstein Dead Men Tell no Tales by Dylan Howard, James Robertson and Melissa Cronin, quotes Ari Benman, said to be an Israeli intelligence agent and handler to Robert Maxwell. In the late 1980s, Epstein dated British newspaper magnate Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell, if you want to call it that, who is serving 20 years in jail. Still not long enough. And for grooming girls for Epstein to abuse Mr. Royston. Also left out the little part here where Maxwell actually participated in the abuse herself. Kind of an important part, no? And as for dating Ghislaine Maxwell. It's a pretty damn good cover story, right? Ben Minash said Maxwell introduced him to us and he wanted us to accept him as part of our group. These guys were seen as agents. He added, they weren't really competent to do very much and they found a niche for themselves blackmailing American and other political figures. In conclusion, Ben Monash said to the authors, Mr. Epstein was a simple idiot who was going around providing girls to all kinds of politicians in the United States. See, effing around is not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not a crime. But f a 14 year old girl, that's a crime. And he was taking photos of politicians doing that with 14 year old girls. If you want to get it straight. Ben Minaj added, they, Epstein and Maxwell would just blackmail people. They would just blackmail people like that. And look, there is a lot of truth in everything that was said by Mr. Ben Minaj. And as far as the authors of that book go, Melissa Cronin certainly knows what she's talking about. But you hear from Mr. Ben Minaj here that Epstein was an idiot. He certainly wasn't a functioning Mossad agent or a CIA agent, but an asset, a useful idiot, 100%. Those are the favorite kind of tools of the CIA, of the Mossad. Vicky Ward, who's reporting for Vanity Fair, played a role in the Epstein scandal, wrote in a piece for Rolling Stone magazine that the notorious financier pedophile told exaggerated stories of his time in intelligence circles. But some of those stories may have been at least partially true. Ward quoted a former business partner of Epstein, Stephen Hoffenberg, whom the disgraced financier testified against during a criminal prosecution. Hoffenberg said that Epstein had talked about links to the intelligence community and when I said he was a snitch for the government, this is what I mean. He took the stand and signed a 302, signed a proffer agreement with the government to put Steve Hoffenberg behind bars. Meanwhile, it was Epstein who was the mastermind of that whole ass scheme. So what you think once the government had Epstein on paper, that was the end of it? They were like, ah, you know what, this guy isn't going to be useful anymore. Let's just forget about him. 0 chance. They're not going to waste an asset like that until it's time to waste an asset like that. These related to national security issues involving blackmail, influence trading, trading information at a level that is very serious and dangerous. Ultimately, short of official confirmation, it is impossible to know with any certainty whether Epstein had links to intelligence agencies or not, and if so, how strong those links are. Either way, the idea is not concocted out of thin air as many conspiracy theories are. Well, that's because this is not a conspiracy theory, in my opinion. This is a fact. We just have to hammer out all the details, right? I can't give you particulars because I don't know. But what I can tell you is the aberrant behavior that was shown by Epstein and the favorable punishment that was handed down to Epstein and the ability of Epstein to continue to do what he did for all those years. That is not normal. And most people aren't afforded the space to operate like Jeffrey Epstein was. So do I think that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad spy? Not in the traditional sense. I do think that him and Maxwell were both assets and they were being run by multiple agencies. But like most things, when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, we're left to wonder what's real and what's not. And in my opinion, that's always been by design. All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com all of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Recently we have a new interview out from Ghislaine Maxwell, and the person who was able to get that interview was Daphne Barack. Well, her dad is Ehud Barak, who was very close and in fact, a business partner of Jeffrey Epstein's. We've talked about Ehud Barak several times here on the podcast before, and today we're going to talk about him once again, considering that according to the Times of Israel, him and Jeffrey Epstein were business partners all the way up until at least 2015. Now, to hear Barack tell it, he'll tell you he had no idea what Epstein was, who he was, or what he was up to. And I guess you can try and use that defense. But when you're the ex prime minister of Israel, somebody who is so connected and so locked in to the going ons of the world, and then you have a daughter who is a documentarian as well as a filmmaker, I find it very, very hard to believe that you didn't know what kind of man Jeffrey Epstein was. But here we are all these years later, and this is another person who very rarely comes up in conversation
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let's go back to 2019 and let's check on this article from the Times of Israel. Jeffrey Epstein was Ehud Barack's business partner as late as 2015. Former PM's connection to financier, pedophile accused of sex trafficking minors becomes an issue ahead of national elections in September. You know it's hilarious, right? It's only an issue because there's an election. Shouldn't this be an issue at any time? But it just shows you once again how people have tried to use this and manipulate this situation forever and try and score political points with it. This article was authored by the Times of Israel staff, American Financier, pedophile. Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender now embroiled in a sex trafficking case involving minors, was an active business partner with former Prime Minister Ehud Barak as late as 2015. Now remember we talked about the article where Ehud Barack was visiting Jeffrey Epstein at his townhouse and there were all kinds of girls going in and out. Barack says, of course. Oh, we're just there for a business meeting. I hardly even know the guy. Okay, well how is it that you're locked in all these other business dealings with him? How is it that you're locked into any sort of financial arrangement with somebody you don't even know? Give me a break. Barack formed a limited partnership company in Israel in 2015 called some EB to invest in a high tech startup then called Reporty, now named Carbene, which developed video streaming and geolocation software for emergency services. A large part of the money used by some to buy reportee stock was supplied by Epstein, Heretz reported on Thursday. So you have this company, Car Bean, and the funds that it was given to basically get off the ground, they were provided in a seed format by Jeffrey Epstein. So he was giving them ill gotten gains to start this company. See why they don't want a RICO case here, folks. You see how far it would reach. Can you imagine the nightmare for the Department of Justice to have to put all their friends on, on trial, to have to put all of their allies on trial because that's what all of these people are.
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
Let's not, let's not cut corners.
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What, you don't think Ehud Barack is running around with insert politician here? Of course he is, but yet he has never answered any of these questions about Jeffrey Epstein. The report appears to raise new questions about the connection between Barack and the disgraced Epstein, a relationship that has become a favorite election talking point for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after Barak re entered the political fray last month announcing a new party formed for the purpose of inciting Netanyahu. See Netanyahu, he tried to use this situation as a cudgel to smash over Barack's head. And while I understand why you would want to do that, it's not a good look. If you've never talked about this before, you've never talked about Epstein or Barack and then you bring it up because of an election that makes you look bad too. Where were you at for all of these years before it was serving your purposes? Oh, that's right. You were silent with the rest of them. So go sit down, take a seat. And shut up. You don't care. Netanyahu. Just like the rest of them don't care. Responding to the report, Netanyahu took to social media with the demand, investigate Ehud Barak immediately. Well, I don't disagree with that, oldboy. Should have definitely been investigated. Look, let me be very clear. Anyone who received any money from Epstein in any way should be looked at under the predicates of rico. The Prime Minister did not say what behavior on Barack's part could be the subject of a CRIM criminal probe, as no actions described in the report appeared illegal. Well, how about receiving ill gotten gains from a criminal enterprise? How about the fact that Virginia has some pretty bad things to say about Ehud Barak? Are we just gonna forget about that or are we not gonna report it? Oh, I. I know what we're doing. We're not gonna report it. And remember, folks, lies of omission are still lies. Barack, too, responded to the report and Netanyahu's post confirming the 2015 partnership with Epstein and Con and comparing the convicted sex offender to Netanyahu. You don't have to investigate. I confess. He said in a statement, I gave a second chance both to Epstein and to Bibi Netanyahu. Both are. Both are now neck deep in criminality. I expect both to recuse themselves until the truth is ascertained. Oh, yeah, that's exactly it, huh? You gave him a second chance. Does anyone believe that out there? Anyone listening to this believe that. That Ehud Barak is just such a forgiving man that he decided that Epstein, of all people, was worth a second chance? Give me a break already. He added, for my part, all my activities were those of a private citizen, not a minister or a prime minister. All were legal, reported to the authorities, and taxes were paid on them. Well, how about your cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein? How about what Virginia has to say about you? And this is just what we know in the public sphere. Who the hell knows what kind of information our fantastic SDNY and the DOJ has compiled? Because we're never going to see any of that. Addressing Netanyahu, he added.
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
How about you?
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Thursday's exchange of blows between the two former political allies came amid an ongoing spat over Barack's past relationship with Epstein.
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
And it should.
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
Look, this is going to be something that's certainly brought up in a political race. If you have ties to Jeffrey Epstein from here on out, you're gonna get painted with them. But Barack was able to swiggle off the hook once again, right? No real questions, no look into his Past no look into how that money arrived or where that money originated. It was all just, okay, well, he got the money. No big deal. On Sunday, the Prime Minister tweeted a screenshot of a Hebrew language report about Epstein's most recent arrest and his ties to Barack some 15 years ago. The report said that Epstein had been a trustee of the Wexner foundation when it gave Barack $1 million for unspecified consulting services in 2004. Now, why would Wexner and their charity, their group, need somebody like Ehud Barack to come and talk to them? Unless, of course, they're just trying to give their boy a bag. And honestly, that seems like the most likeliest of scenarios, trying to hook their boy up and, you know, oh, it's a donation. It's for this, it's for that. Meanwhile, what they're getting is political favors in return. Barack responded with a sarcastic tweet. It pains me to hear that people I know get in trouble and face criminal charges. First Netanyahu, now Epstein. I wish both of them. I wish both of them that the truth will come out. You see how cavalier he plays with this, how brazen he was, and how he feels like he's above the fray. Well, I have news for Ehud Barack. You are not above the fray, certainly not in America. And you need to answer some questions, homie, about this company, about how you got this seed money, and if any of it came from ill gotten gains. Epstein was arrested Saturday in connection with allegations that he was involved in sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005. He was indicted Monday in federal court in Manhattan. Netanyahu is at the center of three criminal investigations into alleged corruption. Netanyahu doubled down on Tuesday, posting a video under the heading, what else has sex offender Epstein given to Barack? That's a good question. I wonder what else he did give to him. We know that they weren't just passing in the night. You know, when Epstein, seeding your company, there's usually a lot more that goes with it. The video charges that Barack received a payment of $2.3 million from the Wexner foundation and has not disclosed what the payment was for, beyond saying in an interview that he provides consulting and research services. It claimed Barack never conducted the research. Netanyahu's Likud party also has alleged that Barack attended a party hosted by Epstein in 2016.
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Podcast Analyst / Epstein Case Commentator
Yeah, that's definitely the case.
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Podcast Co-Host / Epstein Case Commentator
And for Barack's part, he plays the politician well. He always defers or uses. What about isms? When he's drawn into this. So that is a tried and true method for people who are politically savvy. Barack struck back late Tuesday, noting Netanyahu's close friendship with Arnaud Mimran, a Frenchman sentenced to eight years in prison for tax evasion that reached into the billions of euros. I got news for you. Someone who is in jail for tax evasion is not someone who is on the same pedestal as Jeffrey Epstein. Nice try, Barack, but you're gonna have to do better. Asked about the 2015 partnership, Barack initially declined to confirm the report to Haaretz, saying he would not disclose the identities of private investors who worked with him. I saw a business opportunity and registered a partnership under my control in Israel, barak told Haaretz. A small number of people I know are invested in it in a commercial deal that benefited everyone. Since these were private investments, it would be inappropriate and wrong for me to reveal the identities of the investing parties. Oh yeah, more transparency. What a joke. And this dude is a joke as well. The fact that he's been able to slide under the radar for so long. We're talking about an ex prime minister here, folks. Somebody who is, has a lot of power. Somebody who, who is at the table, you know, the table that you and, you and I are never invited to. That's the table that this dude's sitting at. And for him to give these BS excuses, these BS nonsensical answers, it's just not acceptable. So once again, another person who was up to their ears in Jeffrey Epstein's ill gotten gains seems to just walk away with a bunch of money and doesn't have to answer any questions. Well, unfortunately for all of them, those questions are going to continue to be asked. And if they keep giving BS answers, well, we'll just keep asking the questions because it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention here that there are a whole heap of people who at the very least received money from Jeffrey Epstein and who benefited from ill gotten gains. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter boy underscore Capucci. The link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
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