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Mega Edition: What Did the NYT Discover During Their Epstein/Trump Investigation? (5/26/25)
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The New York Times has reported that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein shared a much closer relationship in the late 1980s through the 1990s and early 2000s than Trump has publicly acknowledged. According to the Times, Epstein described Trump as his...
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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Look, I don't think it's any shock to anybody at this point the that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were buddies and that they spent a lot of time together back in the day. That has all been well documented. And in a new article from the New York Times, they're talking about that relationship once again. And look, it doesn't make Donald Trump guilty, right? We have to make sure we're clear about that. Doesn't make him guilty of being involved in the crimes. Until we have evidence of that, if we ever have evidence of that, we can't run around and make things up. But for me, it's the enabling. And of course, that's not criminal, at least not that we know of, unless there was something else going on behind the scenes, you know, money laundering, whatever. But what it is, is morally despicable. And it makes things so much worse for Donald Trump that he's the president, he knows he's in these files, and he did everything in his power to keep the information from the American public. And of course, the reasoning now is, well, there's national security interests on the line, there's an ongoing investigation. But do you really believe that if, say it was flipped around and Obama was with Jeffrey Epstein all the time, Trump wouldn't have released the files on day one? Of course he would have. That's the kind of guy he is, right? The guy is petty and he holds a grudge. There's no doubt about it. But the fact is it was Donald Trump himself who was spending all this time with Epstein. And it was documented in pictures. It was was documented at events. There's no running from that. And anybody who tries to deny it or downplay it is really just digging the hole deeper. You have to confront that kind of head on. Right? Yep. This is a fact. They hung out they were friends. What else happened? And that's where Trump really stepped in it. Everybody knew that they were friendly. But now that we're getting documented proof that that friendship went deeper, that leads to more sinister questions. What did he know? When did he know it? And was he ever around when anyone was being abused? And Donald Trump himself could have cleared all of this up by just releasing the files right away and speaking to the American public directly. Hey, look, me and this dude were friends. Not exactly the greatest moment of my life, but I was never around when there was any abuse going on. Here's the proof. That's what a man with integrity and nothing to hide does. But what did Donald Trump do? He retreated right back to the bunker. And not only that, he set fire to the battlefield before he left, calling people traitors, calling people stupid, whatever. Meanwhile, the only one who looks stupid is Donald Trump and the people still defending him over this. And I'm certainly not somebody with Trump derangement syndrome. I don't think about the dude enough to even care that much because at the end of the day, I understand that the President, Donald Trump, or anybody else is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. So I don't spend all my time worrying about this dude. He's going to be gone soon. There'll be a new election and a new jerk off will take over. But we're not going to run from the fact that Donald Trump's the President right now and he's overseeing what I think is a gigantic cover up. So in this episode, we're going to talk a little bit more about the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump as told by the New York Times. And the headline, Don's Best Friend How Epstein and Trump Bonded over the Pursuit of Women. This article was authored by Nicholas Confessor and Julie Tate. Jeffrey Epstein was a terrific guy and a lot of fun to be with. He and Donald J. Trump also had no formal relationship. They went to a lot of the same parties, but they didn't socialize together. They were never really friends, just business acquaintances or there was no relationship at all. I was not a fan of his. That's all I can tell you. Those are some of the things that Donald Trump has said about his obvious relationship with Epstein. And look, again, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that there's a bunch of criminality here that I can point to, but that's not the issue at hand, at least not when it comes to Donald Trump. It's the lie upon lie that he's told, and how those lies have compounded and turned into a cover up. For nearly a quarter century, Mr. Trump and his representatives have offered shifting, often contradictory accounts of his relationship with Mr. Epstein, one sporadically captured by society photographers and in news clips before they fell out sometime in the mid-2000s. Closely scrutinized since Mr. Epstein died in a Manhattan jail cell during Mr. Trump's first term, their friendship and questions about what the President knew of Mr. Epstein's abuses now threatens to consume his second one. Yeah, look, there's no doubt about it. People can say whatever they want about the falling numbers of Donald Trump. But if you don't think that this played a gigantic part, you're crazy. And that's because a lot of the independents who supported Trump are abandoning ship. One of the main issues for independent voters was this issue specifically, and Donald Trump obviously has failed the test. The controversy has shaken Mr. Trump's iron hold on his base like no other. Loyal supporters have demanded to know why the administration has not moved more quickly to unearth the convicted sex offenders remaining secrets. In November, after resisting months of pressure to release more Epstein related documents held by the federal government, and facing an almost unheard of revolt among Republican lawmakers, Mr. Trump reversed himself, signing legislation that requires their release beginning this week. And we all know that we had to drag him there kicking and screaming. He didn't want to do it on his own. In fact, he didn't do it on his own. If it wasn't for the discharge petition, they'd still be dog walking this. Believe me, that was always the plan, dog walk this as long as possible. Mr. Epstein had a talent for acquiring powerful friends, some of whom have become ensnared in the continuing scrutiny of his crimes. For months, Mr. Trump has labored furiously to shift himself out of the frame, dismissing questions about his relationship with Mr. Epstein as a Democrat hoax and imploring his supporters to ignore the matter entirely. Like, who does that? What kind of scoundrel tells people to ignore Jeffrey Epstein? Unless, of course, you're scared of something coming to the surface. And in my opinion, there's a whole lot of fear being shown by a whole lot of people, including an examination of their history by the New York Times has found no evidence implicating Mr. Trump in Mr. Epstein's abuse and trafficking of minors. Just like I've been telling you, we don't have that evidence. Now, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but what I'm saying is that we've never seen it. There's no public documentation of anything like that occurring. But that's what they want you to focus on. I'm not going to focus on what they want. I'm going to focus on the fact that this is a cover up. And the fact that this was being covered up at all, for any instance, for any reason, is a gigantic crime in itself. So that's what needs to be focused on. And I've told you a million times, don't go after the shiny object. Don't go after, you know, Al Capone's murder spree. Go after his tax records. That's how you're going to get them. And the same goes for this situation. If we want true accountability, we have to be willing to kick in every single door. But the two men's relationship was both far closer and far more complex than the president now admits. Beginning in the late 1980s, the two men forged the bond intense enough to leave others who knew them with the impression that they were each other's closest friends. The Times found Mr. Epstein was then a little known financier who cultivated mystery around the scope and source of his self made wealth. Mr. Trump, six years older, was a real estate scion who relished publicity and exaggerated his successes. Neither man drank or did drugs. They pursued women in a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were the currency. And if we're being honest, that whole entire era was filled with a bunch of degenerates, a whole bunch of hedonistic degenerates, especially in the financial sector. So there's no doubt that there was a bunch of debauchery taking place. And I have no doubt that Donald Trump was smack in the middle of it. Over nearly two decades, as Mr. Trump cut a swath through the party circuits of New York and Florida, Mr. Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman. During the 90s and early 2000s, they prowled Mr. Epstein's Manhattan mansion and Mr. Trump's Plaza Hotel, at least one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos, and both of their Palm beach homes. They visited each other's offices and spoke often by phone, according to other former Epstein employees and women who spent time in his homes. And look, Maria Farmer told us all about it, about the relationship between Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and she said the same thing. She didn't see anything that was criminal at the time. But there's no doubt that the nexus and that relationship existed. And the fact that people still want to deny it's baffling to me. With other men, Mr. Epstein might discuss tax shelters international affairs or neuroscience with Mr. Trump. He talked about sex. I just think it was, you know, trophy hunting, stacey Williams, who rose to fame as a star of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition during the 90s, said in an interview with the Times. In social media posts and interviews with news outlets in recent years, Ms. Williams has described how Trump groped her in 1993 at Trump Tower while Mr. Epstein, whom she was then dating, watched. I think Jeffrey liked that he had the Sports Illustrated model who had this name and that Trump was pursuing me, she said. Mr. Trump has denied her account. Of course he has. Has he ever admitted anything to shed light on their friendship, The Times interviewed more than 30 former Epstein employees, victims of his abuse, and others who crossed paths with the two men over the years. The Times also obtained new documents that illuminate their relationship and scoured court documents and other public records. Many of the people interviewed by the Times asked to share their stories anonymously, saying they feared for their safety at the hands of supporters of Mr. Trump, a president who has deployed the might of the federal government to target and punish his political opponents. And we've seen it time and time again. Donald Trump has no problem going after people, and I wouldn't have any doubt of him going after the survivors if it served his purpose. I mean, hell, even myself, I'm making sure that all my shit's on the up and up. My tax returns are right. Everything. The last thing you want to do is give somebody like Donald Trump and the federal government any inroads to give you a colonoscopy. Some Epstein victims have already received death threats for demanding a full accounting of the government's investigation, according to a statement released by more than two dozen of them last month. Yo, let me just go on the record. If you're threatening survivors, you're a. You are a straight up coward, a clown, and your parents should be slapped in the face for birthing you
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Visit your nearby Lowe's. Who attacks survivors, bro? In what defense of Donald Trump's bitch ass? Who doesn't care about you one single bit? Who's ready to send your kids off to war in Venezuela. Oh, yeah, that's the guy that you should be going crazy over. That's the guy you should be threatening people for. And if that's you, my advice is this. Wake the up before you get woke up. Over the years, Mr. Epstein or his partner, Glenn Maxwell, introduced at least six women who have accused them of grooming or abuse to Mr. Trump, according to interviews, court testimony and other records. One was a minor at the time. None have accused Mr. Trump himself of inappropriate behavior. And it's important to point that out. I think it's very important to point that out. People are getting way ahead of themselves, saying Trump was part of the actual trafficking, etc. You got to be careful because what you do is you give the other side, the side of the enablers, the side of the protectors, ammunition. Oh, look, it's all about Trump. It's all about this, all about that. Now, I'm not saying to shy away from actual evidence, lean into that, but shy away from the nonsense, shy away from the things that are going to hurt the overall investigation, because at the end of the day, none of that stuff even matters. Do you think the survivors care about that bs? What do you think they care about this moving forward and full transparency. One of the women who has never spoken publicly about the experience, told the Times that Mr. Epstein had coerced her and into attending four parties at Mr. Epstein's home. Mr. Trump attended all four, the woman said. At two of them, she said Mr. Epstein directed her to have sex with other male guests. So according to that woman's account, Donald Trump was at this house when she was being trafficked to other people. Now, is that a crime? I don't know. Certainly a gray area. Certainly not the kind of place that you want to find the president in inhabiting and certainly not morally acceptable, no matter how you chop it. In an email, among those released by Congress in November, Mr. Epstein boasted that he gave Mr. Trump a 20 year old woman who Mr. Epstein dated in the 90s. During a flight together in the early 1990s, Mr. Trump came on to another Epstein employee traveling with him, telling her that he could have anyone he wanted. According to a different Epstein worker who learned of the incident, a separate Epstein employee from the era recalled that Mr. Trump would occasionally send over modeling cards for Mr. Epstein to peruse, like a menu. And there's a lot of people that have corroborated that. We've heard that from many, many sources. It's not just the New York Times that's blowing that out of the water. We've heard that previously Mr. Epstein, who claimed he required orgasms three times a day, exploited or abused hundreds of women and girls before dying in what was ruled a suicide. Thousands. You would think that all this investigation, that the New York Times did, they know the truth. Thousands of women. And that's not hyperbole. I'm talking about globally, right? Not just America. I'm talking about South America, Central America, Europe, Asia, and wherever the else this egg dicked weirdo ended up going. If you think this dude wasn't abusing people everywhere he went, you're crazy. Mr. Trump does not stand accused of sexually abusing a minor. But over the course of his friendship with Mr. Epstein and beyond, he left a trail of alleged abuse and assault, many details of which began to surface publicly during his successful 2016 presidential run. Close to 20 women have publicly accused Mr. Trump of groping, forcibly kissing or sexually assaulting them. Behavior that he once bragged he could get away with because of his celebrity, but later denied ever engaging in. In 2023, the writer Eugene Carroll won a 5 million dollar civil judgment against Mr. Trump for sexual abuse and defamation. So look, those are the facts, right? You can dispute the case, you can dispute what the jury or judge found, but that's on the record, man. And all these other accounts. We have to understand that there is an environment, a political environment, and you have to be very cautious about what you're accepting and what you're not accepting. But to think that there wasn't any evidence whatsoever from any of those women, that's just not true. Now, of course, that doesn't make Donald Trump guilty of the kind of crimes Epstein was involved in, but it certainly makes him a fellow traveler. In response to a detailed list of questions from the Times, the the White House Press secretary Carolyn Levitt issued a statement. This fake news story, which is not worth the paper that it's printed on, is just another stale regurgitation of decades old false allegations against President Trump. The truth will remain the same no matter how many times the New York Times tries to change it. President Trump did nothing wrong and he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of Mar A Lago for being a creep. Well, yeah, but not until he let Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell recruit Virginia to go and be abused. Let's not forget that part. Carolyn Levitt. And again, this is where people are missing the boat. Quit focusing on what Epstein and Trump might have been doing together. We don't have the evidence of that. You know, we have evidence of a cover up. Focus on that, and it's no different than during that whole Russiagate nonsense. I told everybody, if you really wanted to find something of substance, you need to go after the concrete companies that Trump was in business with at the time, and that's because they were all run by the Mafia. But instead, everybody wanted to chase salacious, you know, the pee on the bed story, the salacious stuff that you can't prove. And I think a lot of people are falling into that same trap here, because there is obviously a cover up underway. And I think that if we continue to focus on that, it's going to become apparent to anybody who's paying attention that that's exactly what's going on. And I think that if people want to see real change here, they want to see real action, they want to see people held accountable. We'll focus on the COVID up. It's unclear what new information may emerge under the new law passed by Congress. The statute allows the Trump administration to withhold records that identify victims, including images of child sexual abuse or documents that are otherwise classified. His appointees can also hold back records that could jeopardize an active federal investigation, such as a new inquiry ordered by Mr. Trump into Democrats associated with Mr. Epstein. In a statement in late November, a group of Epstein accusers wrote, other than redacting victim names, we want the files disclosed. And I've heard that directly from survivors themselves. That's what they want. They want complete transparency here. They want the files to be released, and they want accountability. Is that too much to ask? Especially after you've been abused and discarded the way these women have been for all these years? They're just asking for a fair shake. And if anybody's ever deserved a little bit of fairness, it's these women. Mr. Trump has denied knowing of Mr. Epstein's abuse of underage girls. But in a tranche of emails released in November, Mr. Epstein suggested otherwise. In a 2019 message to the journalist Michael Wolf, he wrote of Mr. Trump, of course he knew about the girls. As he asked Ghislaine to stop. The full context of Mr. Epstein's remark is unclear. In a 2010 deposition, Mr. Epstein was asked if he had ever socialized with Mr. Trump with girls under 18, as he did more than three dozen times during the deposition. Mr. Epstein invoked his constitutional right not to answer, though. I'd like to answer that question at least today. I'm going to have to assert my 5th, 6th and 14th amendment rights, sir, he replied. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up episode one right here and in the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off with the New York Times article about the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Once again, the authors of this article are Nicholas Confessor and Julie Tate. Sex Talk and Office Hours Sometimes the phone would ring in Mr. Trump's office at Trump Tower. The caller, the mysterious Jeffrey, as Mr. Trump described him in a 2004 book of business advice, never gave a last name, nor did he need to, Mr. Trump wrote. A few times a week the phone would ring in Mr. Epstein's office in the Villard Houses on Madison Avenue. Mr. Trump would be on the line on one occasion, recalled an Epstein assistant from the mid-90s. Mr. Trump refused to give any name at all. The White House spokeswoman declined to say whether Mr. Trump book was referring to a different Jeffrey, but the two talked at least three times a week during the mid to late 90s, according to a second Epstein assistant from the period. The first assistant, who often worked late, recalled that sometimes that when the office emptied out, Mr. Epstein would check to see that she was at her desk and put Mr. Trump on speaker. Mr. Trump, she said, seemed to enjoy regaling Mr. Epstein with tales of his sexual exploits, and Mr. Epstein seemed to delight in how uncomfortable it made her to overhear them. And that's a power play for sure. That's what people do, right? Oh, I'm on the phone with this guy, let me put it on speaker so I can flex and show exactly the kind of power that me and my buddies have over women. And it's something that Epstein did quite a bit. She remembered one call in the mid-90s on which the two men discussed how much pubic hair a particular woman had and whether there was enough for Mr. Epstein to floss his teeth with. Like what? Hold on, wait a minute. Talking about flossing your teeth with pubic hair, you sick, disgusting piece of garbage. What sort of degenerate mind even thinks up something like that? Have you ever been sitting around saying to yourself, you know what? I bet I could floss my teeth with someone's pubic hair. The whole ass thing is just weird and disgusting. On another Mr. Trump told Mr. Epstein about having sex with another woman on a pool table, the former assistant said, and look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that any of this is criminal? We don't know. We have no idea. But it's the kind of conversations that in the past would have sunk somebody if they were president. So have we fallen that far as a society where this kind of thing is just okay because it's your guy? That is some wild. Because I promise you right now, if this was Joe Biden who had this conversation with Jeffrey Epstein, we would have never heard the end of it. The same people that told us about Tom Hanks and Adrenochrome would have been talking about Reptilians, and you name it. But now those same people are making excuses for this kind of behavior from Donald Trump. None of it's okay, and all of it's disgusting. A woman known in court records as Jane Doe, who Mr. Epstein trafficked during the mid-90s beginning in her early years, testified in Ms. Maxwell's criminal trial in 2021 that Epstein often put famous friends on speakerphone in front of other people. And that's what I was talking about previously. That's something that Jeffrey Epstein did quite a bit. According to a lot of reports, the calls with Mr. Trump continued through the later years of the men's friendship, according to a third former employee who worked for Mr. Epstein on and off through most of the 2000s and also recalled him putting Mr. Trump on speaker. They would talk about pageants or modeling shows or which country's women were in vogue in the fashion world. Sometimes, the third employee said, Mr. Trump went on so long that Mr. Epstein, whose attention span was famously short, would leave the room while his friend was still talking. That certainly tracks, certainly the kind of thing that Epstein did. And if you think that Jeffrey Epstein was impressed by Donald Trump, you're crazy. At this point, Jeffrey Epstein was more powerful than Donald Trump. Keep that in mind. Trump might have had a few bucks, but he wasn't protected like Jeffrey Epstein was. Maria Farmer, an artist who said that she was sexually assaulted by Ms. Maxwell. And Mr. Epstein during the mid-1990s, told the Times in 2019 that Mr. Epstein had once summoned her to meet Mr. Trump at the Villard House's office. Mr. Trump leered at her, she said, before Mr. Epstein informed him that she is not for you. And I remember Maria telling me that directly, and she also said it in the interview that I did with her both times. So there's no doubt in my mind that Trump was around quite a bit. I think the only thing that we don't know now for sure is how deep it ran. And if Trump was involved in any kind of criminal behavior. Well, other than the COVID up, because that's certainly happening. I don't even think that's a debate.
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Visit your nearby Lowe's. This summer, a spokesman for Mr. Trump denied that the president had ever set foot in Mr. Epstein's office. The first former assistant, though, recall Mr. Trump meeting there briefly with Mr. Epstein at least several times during the mid-90s. Her account was supported by Mark Epstein, Mr. Epstein's brother, who said that Jeffrey has had told him that Mr. Trump visited very frequently. And Mark Epstein has been adamant about that for years now. He's talked about how Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were very close. And it's not just Mark Epstein saying it. We have a lot of people who have come forward now and who have corroborated the story. He was at the office all the time back then, Mr. Epstein said in an interview with the Times Daily. Handwritten notes kept by the first former assistant and and reviewed by the Times suggests that Mr. Trump was a regular presence in Mr. Epstein's life. The notes, spanning several months in the late 1994, have not been previously reported. Well, that's interesting. And I'm guessing they're talking about Leslie Grof here. Is that who they interviewed? Who else could it be? Some pages contain instructions to call Mr. Trump or return his call. One note reminded the assistant to call Mr. Trump's office to see if he was flying to Florida tomorrow. Another recorded that a package would be arriving with an invitation to Mar a Lago events on one pager instructions about invitations for an upcoming party. Mr. Trump was to be invited, but only if his ex wife, ivana, with whom Ms. Maxwell was friendly, declined. Their relationship was riddled with undertones of envy and disdain. Mr. Epstein seemed to hold a low opinion of of his friend's business acumen, according to the former employees and others who knew him well. That's par for the course. Epstein didn't have friends. He had people that he could use and climb on. And if Trump was dumb enough to think he was friends with Epstein, more's the pity. On one occasion around 2001, the third former employee said Mr. Epstein was annoyed after Mr. Trump called him. He later told the employee that Mr. Trump was short on cash and and wanted a ride on Mr. Epstein's plane. Well, Trump certainly was going through some money problems back in the day when everything failed up in Atlantic City, you know, when people were pressing for their debts to be repaid, Trump certainly was in a crunch. Now, did he have any kind of business with Epstein as far as financial? I don't know, but it seems likely. And that's another reason that I think Trump is so worried about the files coming out. He knows that he might be exposed by his financial dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. During the early years of their friendship, Mr. Trump was racing toward a reckoning over the billions of dollars he had borrowed to assemble his struggling empire, including casinos, hotels, an airline, and a yacht. According to former Epstein employees, Mr. Trump seemed attracted to the financier's wealth and business network, especially because Trump couldn't get loans at the time. Nobody was going to offer him money, so where's he going to get that money? You go to a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, you want to talk about a middleman, you want to talk about somebody that has access to billions, you're looking at him. It's unclear whether Mr. Epstein, who ostensibly specialized in offering tax and estate planning for wealthy clients, helped Mr. Trump navigate his financial problems. But in his 2020 memoir of representing Epstein victims relentless pursuit, the Florida lawyer Bradley J. Edwards wrote that Mr. Epstein had claimed to some young women that he had bailed his friend out of bankruptcy. Boys and girls, that is bad news for Donald Trump. If that's the case. Was that money declared? Did he pay taxes on it? Where did that money originate? Did it originate from a place of criminality? All of these things are going to have to be explored. Even as he dismissed Mr. Trump's deal making, Mr. Epstein, who could be socially awkward at other people's parties, seemed to admire his friend's brash confidence and access the higher realms of nightlife and celebrity. He frequently mentioned his friendship with Mr. Trump, according to several accusers, telling one he had a bedroom reserved at Mar a Lago. Take that with a grain of salt. Epstein was certainly a liar. So we have to take things that he said with a grain of salt, and there's no doubt about that. Does that mean everything he said was no. And how do we know? Well, we have to use evidence to back up the comments he's making. Even after they fell out, Mr. Epstein kept a framed photo of himself with Mr. Trump and his future third wife Melania on a credenza in his Upper east side dining room. And you have to understand that the pictures on the walls at Epstein's house was like a menagerie, right? That was his collection of people that he felt he had power over. I mean, do we have to talk about Bill Clinton in the blue dress? Well, you think Epstein just did that out of the blue? It was a power play, folks, just like the picture of Trump on this credenza. The party circuit A few years into Mr. Trump's friendship with Mr. Epstein, Ivana Trump filed for divorce. Mr. Trump's affair with Marla Maples, a former pageant contestant, was running hot and cold. In 92, he invited NBC to Mar a Lago to shoot a video for a feature about his post divorce life on the talk show A Closer Look. I love beautiful women. I love going out with beautiful women and I love women in general, he said in the footage. And look, nothing wrong with that. Hell, I love beautiful women. I love going out with beautiful women. I love being around them. And I'm sure that most heterosexual males out there feel the same way. But at the same time, I don't look at women as a piece of meat or something to be conquered. They're my equals, my peers, my friends, my sister, my wife, whatever. But these sons of. They have a whole different outlook on life, and they look at people as commodities as opposed to people. So there's nothing wrong with liking beautiful women and wanting to be around them. There's something completely and utterly wrong with abusing them. The cameras captured him and Mr. Epstein at the Palm beach estate, surrounded by cheerleaders from the Miami Dolphins and Buffalo Bills. In the video, Mr. Trump grabs a smiling woman from the rear and pass her on the behind. In another clip, he appears to point toward women on the dance floor, and Mr. Epstein doubles over, laughing at something his friend whispered. Can you imagine what kind of vile nonsense these two guys were talking about? In January of 93, Mr. Trump held another party at Mar a Lago, this one to kick off a beauty pageant he was bringing to Atlantic City with two business partners, George Houraney and Jill Harth. Two dozen or so potential contestants were flown in to meet Mr. Trump. The only other guest at the party, Mr. Houraney told the Times in 2019, was Mr. Epstein. But remember, folks, they weren't that close, right? They weren't friends, hardly knew the guy, never saw him, certainly never hung out with him. And this is what I'm talking about with Trump lying to everybody's face you can say that you didn't do anything wrong, you can say you didn't do anything criminal, but you can't try and recreate history. We all know what happened, we all know that you guys were close and it's all documented. So if you're lying about that, what else are you lying about? During dinner that night, Ms. Hart alleged in a 97 lawsuit that Mr. Trump groped her under the table, then cornered her in a bedroom normally used by his daughter Ivanka and forcibly kissed, fondled and restrained her from leaving. And that lawsuit was filed in 97, long before Trump was, quote unquote, a target of a Democrat hoax. So what's the answer to that? Just gonna write it off. No big deal. These kinds of things happen. Well, if you're a scumbag, maybe. Later in the pre dawn hours, she alleged in the suit, Mr. Trump also sneaked into a bedroom being used by a 22 year old contestant. Climbing onto her bed uninvited, he groped her too, according to the suit. Mr. Trump has denied the allegations by Ms. Harth, who declined to comment. The pageant partnership later fizzled, leading Mr. Jorge to separately sue Mr. Trump in 95 for breach of contract. Mr. Ms. Harth said she withdrew her subsequent harassment lawsuit as a condition for settling the contract dispute. She went on to briefly date Mr. Trump. That whole situation's odd. I don't know enough about that to break it down. But we have to keep in mind there are people out there that are looking for a bag, people that are going to make all kinds of crazy allegations because they know they're going to get paid. And I'm not saying that's what happened with Ms. Harth, but we always have to be cognizant of that. We have to, we have to be aware that it happens. According to Mr. Epstein, he and Mr. Trump partied at his house, too. In a 2015 email exchange with Landon Thomas Jr. Then a Times reporter, he recounted a moment when Mr. Trump was so focused on young women swimming in his pool that he walked into a glass door. Mr. Epstein also referred to the 22 year old contestant from that night in 93, indicating she had pictures of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen and providing her email address. The emails among those released by Congress last month came as Mr. Trump led in the polls for the Republican presidential nomination. Mr. Thomas, who had once pitched Mr. Epstein on a sympathetic profile, said he was being approached by people who thought he had juicy info on you and Trump. It's unclear whether the photos of Mr. Epstein referenced exist. The former contestant cannot be reached for comment. The Times is withholding her name because she has publicly not come forward with her own account of the events. Mr. Thomas has said he never received any photographs. He left the Times in 2019 after disclosing that he had solicited a charitable contribution from Mr. Epstein. That's a whole ass other can of worms. Another journalist on Epstein's dime, huh? No wonder the story never got out. In November of 1993, Mr. Trump's chosen pageant contestants flew in from around the world for a week of events at his properties in New York and Atlantic City. At one point, Ms. Harth said in her lawsuit, Mr. Trump demanded that she provide him with access to a 17 year old Czech contestant. The suit does not say if she complied or if Mr. Trump met the contestant. Towards the end of the week, the contestants joined Mr. Trump for a press luncheon at the Plaza. One contestant, Beatrice Cole, then a bank employee and part time model from Switzerland, said in an interview with the Times that during the event, one of Mr. Trump's employees asked her to meet him privately in a suite upstairs. Almost as soon as she arrived, Ms. Cole said, Mr. Trump began groping her, kissing her and trying to lift her dress. I yelled, I screamed, I pushed him, she said. He didn't want to give up. Like, what do you do with that? Is everybody just lying because they want to lie about Trump? Is that really what you believe? At some point you have to ask yourself, how come all these people are making these allegations if they're not true? She said that she was withholding some of the details of what happened because she had been subject to anonymous threats. Ms. Ms. Kool first described aspects of the episode to the Daily Mail last year. A friend, Pascal Cleves, told the times that Ms. Kool recounted the episode at the Plaza to him around 2004. Ms. Kool also provided the Times with pictures of documents corroborating her participation in the pageant and of herself with Mr. Trump. Before the private meeting, she was also approached by Mr. Epstein. I'm Jeffrey. I'm. I'm Don's best friend, she recalled him saying. She was confused at first, Ms. Cole said, because she didn't seem to be affiliated with the pageant, she didn't understand why he had been allowed into the press luncheon. He said Don likes you very much and that they're organizing parties at Mar a Lago and he would love for you to join. Ms. Cole said he would take care of her, her flights, her hotel. You just need to pack and come to the party at Mar A Lago, she recalled him saying. When Ms. Cold demurred, Mr. Epstein tried other tactics, going on about the wealth he kept in Swiss banks, then about famous friends with whom he could arrange meetings. Epstein knew exactly what he was doing, she said. He had hunting methods. It was a routine. The first Mr. Epstein's former assistants interviewed by the Times said that on dozens of occasions in the mid-90s, the financier instructed her to call a pageant winner from somewhere in the world and invite her to visit him in Florida. His standing offer, the assistant said, was an all expense paid trip and $5,000 in cash to go shopping on Worth Avenue, Palm beach, famed shopping destination. In December of 93, not long after the pageant, Mr. Trump married Ms. Maples at the Plaza. Photos show Mr. Epstein in attendance, but the parties continued. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up episode two right there and in the next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we left off with the New York Times article talking about the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Once again, this article was authored by Nicholas Confessor and Julie Tate
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Visit your nearby Lowe's. Dress Sexy in the early 2000s, guests mingled in the library or dining room of Mr. Epstein's Upper East Side mansion as her hostel court. The women were beautiful and numerous. The men were older and few. Occasionally, one of the women would would head toward the bedrooms. One of the men would shortly follow. But wait, I thought that there was no trafficking going on here. I'm sure that all these women, some of them underage, were doing it willingly, right? Right. One woman, then a model and college student in her early 20s living in Manhattan, said she attended four parties at the mansion. She can't recall the names of most of the men she met at the gatherings, not even those Mr. Epstein directed her to take care of at two of them recruited by Ms. Maxwell and then abused by Mr. Epstein, she buried her shame and kept their secrets for years. But Mr. Trump's presence stood out. She told the Times he was a household name, someone Mr. Epstein often bragged about to the women around him, yet also someone he seemed to compete with. It was like a pissing contest who had the most women, she recalled. She requested anonymity to describe her experiences in in detail, saying she feared for her family's safety after Mr. Trump said some of his critics could be executed for sedition. Yo, if that's the case, I'm. If they ever set up the guillotines, your boy's definitely getting his head chopped off. To people in the modeling business, men like Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein were familiar part of the scene. Wealthy men who use their money, clout and personal connections in fashion to meet the young women who worked in the industry. Two days a week, you'd be at a model dinner at a restaurant, said Heather Braden, a model and filmmaker. And there'd be these men we didn't know. Ms. Braden, who now lives in Utah, said she often saw Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein at the same parties or dinners during the 90s in New York and South Florida, including at Mar a Lago, which Mr. Trump converted to a members club in 1995. And do all these people have motivations to lie, all these people that are coming forward? It doesn't make sense, and I highly doubt that these people are lying now. Again, it doesn't prove criminality, but it certainly strengthens the bonds, and it really puts into perspective why Donald Trump is so worried about the files being released and information about his time with Jeffrey Epstein becoming public. Even if there is no criminal acts, just this stuff alone is enough to tarnish you. Donald Trump knows that, and that's why it took people to drag him kicking and screaming to have these files unsealed. If there was nothing damaging or something that exonerated him, forget it. We would have had them the day he got elected, you know, like he promised to do while he was on the campaign trail. That would have been nice, huh? But I said it then, and I'll say it again. There was never a chance that Trump was gonna release the documents because he knew what was in them. Each man cultivated relationships that, in turn put them in proximity to young women in the industry. Mr. Epstein exploited his close relationship with Les Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret, sometimes telling women he could get them meetings or bookings. Photographers or camera crews captured Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump together at Victoria's Secret events in 97 and 99. And not only that, but Les Wexner was way more involved than anybody likes to let on. I urge you all to listen to what Maria Farmer had to say about Les Wexner and also listen to what Virginia said. Wexner is not some peripheral character here. He was a central component to Jeffrey Epstein's operation for a very long time. And yes, he's been credibly accused of taking part in the abuse himself. So I would think that Les Wexner would be talked about a little bit more. Everybody talks about they want names, names, names. Well, there's a name for you. What have you done with it? Oh, that's right. Not a damn thing. All these people out here talking about, we want names. Why don't the survivors give us names? Well, because when they did name people, nobody did about it. And then they got sued, they got threatened, they had their lives upended. So guess what? Here's a novel idea. Why didn't the DOJ name names, you know, do their job? Mr. Trump befriended the Hawaiian Tropic founder Ron Rice, who told the Boston Globe that he would send models and pageant contestants to Mar A Lago for parties at Mr. Trump's request. And John Casablancas, the founder of Elite Model Management, whose Look of the Year contest Mr. Trump sponsored and helped judge in the early 1990s for Mar a Lago gatherings. Groups of models were sometimes bussed in from Miami, often with the help of Mr. Trump's friend, Jason Binn, co founder of the society magazine Ocean Drive. Mr. Bin did not return calls and emails seeking comment. Of course not. Last thing he wants to do is out Trump, right? He knows what the results are if he does that. Tina Davis, who worked with Ford models in the mid-90s, said in an interview that her Ford booker instructed her to get dressed up and attend a party at Mar a Lago in late 94. Just 14 and and new to Miami, she was told to dress sexy, according to her mother, Sandra Coleman, who had accompanied her to Florida. Eight or nine other models came along on the bus. All the girls were really young, Ms. Coleman recalled in an interview. Some of them could have been in training bras like, come on, why are those girls going anywhere without supervision? Why are those girls going to these modeling events? And why are people like Donald Trump and and the rest of these scumbags okay with it? When they arrived at Mar a Lago, Ms. Coleman said that her daughter was promptly handed a glass of champagne. She took it away, but waiters kept offering more each time one of the middle aged men at the party approached her daughter, Ms. Coleman would walk over and introduce herself as Davis's mother. During a trip to the bathroom, they ran into Mr. Trump's new wife, whom they had met earlier. Ms. Maples clasp her hands, Ms. Coleman recalled, and and looked her in the eye. Whatever you do, do not let her around any of these men, and especially my husband, she told Ms. Coleman. Protect her. Well, that's pretty scary, huh? Imagine somebody said that to you, somebody's wife. That's when I'd be hitting the eject button and taking my kid directly home. Well, I'd never have my kid at one of these things anyway. But that's neither here nor there. But the second I heard that see you later, we're out. Ms. Maples denied making the comment. I would always protect young women in any way I could, she said. But I'm sure I didn't specifically say that about my daughter's father. Mr. Epstein was a frequent guest at Mar a Lago parties. A woman who said Mr. Epstein trafficked her in the late 90s and early 2000s recalled attending at least a half dozen of the parties, beginning when she was 17 and modeling during the winter fashion season in Florida. Mr. Epstein showed up at several of them, too. He always seemed to know about events happening at Mar a Lago, she said, even when he didn't attend. And he was always curious about her experiences. The invitations typically came from Mr. Bin and Ocean Drive, bidding the models to be Donald Trump's guests at Mar a Lago, according to one invitation she shared with the Times. The parties were open bar and no one checked ID she said. Mr. Trump was always all over them, she recalled. So Nobody was checking IDs and it was an open bar and you have all these little girls there. That sounds like a recipe for disaster, no? The woman provided a picture of herself and a friend with Mr. Trump at Mar a Lago. She said she didn't remember whether she was still 17 at the time of the picture. She has not previously spoken publicly about the meeting with the future president and asked for anonymity because she feared retaliation from him or his supporters. Again, people are scared of that. Anybody engaging in that behavior is a coward. Anyone attacking these women for telling their story is a complete and utter piece of shit. During the 90s, both Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump also forged ties with an up and coming modeling agency known as Next and its co founder, Faith Cates, who would become one of the industry's major figures. Mr. Epstein, sometimes seen around next office meetings, according to Ms. Braden, who was represented by an agency that merged with Next in the early 1990s. After Mr. Epstein's death, several former employees told the Daily Beast that they had seen Mr. Epstein around the Next offices or taken calls from him after he was arrested in Florida for soliciting underage girls. He also donated money to a charity funded and and founded by Ms. Cates. Mr. Trump attended next parties in New York, according to a former model who was represented by the agency in the late 90s and said she once found herself seated near Mr. Trump at the agency's holiday dinner. The agency also sometimes sent models to parties at Mar A Lago. Zoe Brock, a New Zealand model who worked for Next in Miami, said she was pressured by the agency to attend one one of Mr. Trump's parties in 98 when she was 24. When she balked, a representative of the agency offered to pay her a few hundred dollars to attend. Not long after, she said, she boarded a bus with 20 or so other models. At Mar A Lago, each woman was given a red and white striped WristBand advertising them Ms. Brock felt as meat. None of the other guests, chiefly men in tuxedos, wore the wristbands. The women were made to line up and meet Mr. Trump. Yeah, very normal behavior. Okay, all you women line up. You have to meet me. All you little 14 year old girls come over and say hi to Daddy Diddles. I had a glass of champagne and I immediately felt not well, Ms. Brock recalled, adding, I thought my drink had been spiked. It was Ms. Kate's who brought her client, Ms. Williams, to the 92 dinner where she first met Epstein some months after she made her Sports Illustrated debut. And it was Ms. Cates who brought her to Mr. Trump's annual holiday party at the Plaza that fall, where she ran into Mr. Epstein again and where Mr. Trump also vied for her attention. Praising a recent spread in the swimsuit issue, Ms. Williams said. I think they were trying to get as high up the chain of models as far as they could, Ms. Williams said. They wanted the biggest prize and the most famous model. But it was Mr. Epstein, not Mr. Trump, to whom she gave her number. One day the following year, as she strolled down Fifth Avenue, Mr. Epstein proposed visiting his friend in Trump Tower. The real purpose of the visit, Ms. Williams later came to believe, was to play a game. As the two friends stood talking in Mr. Trump's waiting room, she said, the real estate developer pulled her towards him and groped her breasts, waist and buttocks. Mr. Epstein acted the like nothing had happened. After they left, though, he flew into a rage, berating Ms. Williams for letting Trump touch her. That certainly tracks, maybe not with, you know, the whole story, but the way Epstein would react. He did the same thing with Harvey Weinstein. I'm convinced that's why he walked me in there, she said in a recent interview. He thought I would punch him in the face or something, but I froze. A Trump representative previously called her allegations I unequivocally false. Ms. Cates departed next in November after emails released by Congress indicated that she and Mr. Epstein had remained close for years after his 2008 plea on charges of soliciting a minor. A NEXT spokeswoman declined to answer questions sent by email, instead sending a statement that the agency has never had a business relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or Donald Trump. Ms. Cates also declined to answer specific questions. Neither Faith nor anyone associated with NEXT ever brought clients to parties or dinners for any inappropriate purpose, a spokesman for Kate's had said. The women who attended four parties at Epstein's mansion in the early 2000s said she had first met Ms. Maxwell at a show during New York fashion week in 2000. Ms. Maxwell presented herself as a wealthy, well educated mentor, taking her to lunch and charity events. Eventually, she offered to introduce her to a friend, Mr. Epstein. She said Ms. Maxwell told her that he could help her achieve her dream of modeling for Victoria's Secret. The three met at Mr. Epstein's mansion that fall and talked about her career. On a second Visit, she recalled, Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell began touching each other and then her she froze. I don't know if I could have moved if I wanted to, she said. Expecting an apology, she she returned for a third visit. Instead, she said, Mr. Epstein warned her that cameras in the mansion had recorded their encounter. He insisted she come to parties there, terrified that her parents and pastor would find what had happened. She acquiesced. The women at the four parties she attended didn't seem to know one another. The other men arrived individually. She recalled meeting Mr. Trump at one of the parties. She showed the Times a handwritten address book she she kept in those years containing Mr. Trump's name and two of his phone numbers. Mr. Trump did not act inappropriately with her, the woman said. And again, it's important to note a lot of people are gonna say, well look, there's nothing incriminating here for Trump. I disagree. Maybe not incriminating as far as abusing people, but lying. And that's a big deal, especially if you're the president of the United states. The woman said she hoped the Justice Department would release redacted documents relating to her interview with the FBI, which took place in New York City in the summer of 2020, she said, in which she mentioned Mr. Trump's presence at the at the parties. That same year, according to documents the woman provided, she was interviewed about Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein by representatives of the Epstein Victims Compensation Program and later received a settlement. Another victim's fund handling claims against JP Morgan to settle allegations that the bank ignored warnings about Mr. Epstein's abuses, also approved the woman for a settlement. So not alleged. Somebody that got money, got a settlement and somebody that was involved. She has since filed paperwork to join a Florida lawsuit by more than 30 women, most under pseudonyms, alleging that the FBI failed to properly investigate reports of sex crimes and child sex trafficking by Mr. Epstein dating to 1996. Government lawyers have asked a judge to dismiss the case. The government knew about Epstein. They were aware of his sexual abuse of minors and young women, said Jennifer Plotkin, a lawyer for the women. And because they did nothing, hundreds and hundreds of women were abused over 20 years. Ms. Maxwell is serving a 20 year federal prison sentence for conspiring with Mr. Epstein to traffic underage girls. Last July, the deputy attorney general, Todd Blanch, traveled to Florida to interview her. She acknowledged Mr. Trump's social relationship with Mr. Epstein, but said that he had never seen the president behave inappropriately. A week later, she was transferred to a minimum security prison. Her lawyers are now seeking to overturn her conviction. That whole entire thing is one of the biggest tells that this is a cover up. The fact that she was moved, it is incredible. To me, it's something that should be a bigger problem to a lot of people because it really shows intent. There's no reason for Maxwell to be moved unless she's playing ball. And it's obvious she's not playing ball, at least not for the survivors. Maybe for Trump, but not for the survivors. Not for us. So if you're looking for a tell, if you're looking for evidence of a cover up, there it is. Rewriting history in the early 2000s, Mr. Epstein, now extraordinarily wealthy and well connected, seemed to grow less content with the anonymity he had carefully drawn around his life and his business. In 2002, practically inviting public scrutiny, he arranged to fly with former President Bill Clinton and a celebrity entourage on a humanitarian trip to Africa. Details of the trip were soon shared with the New York Post page 6. Not long after New York magazine published the first major profile of Mr. Epstein. Mr. Trump provided the headline, quote, he's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. But sometime in the subsequent years, their friendship soured. Exactly when and why is unclear. After the allegations against Mr. Epstein slowly began to emerge it into view. In the mid-2000s, accounts Mr. Trump and his representatives gave of their relationship and its end began to molt and morph. Mr. Epstein was kicked out of Mar A Lago for being inappropriate with a masseuse or with the daughter of a member. Mr. Trump had banned him for poaching employees or for being a creep. In other words, the story changes whenever it's convenient. And like usual, Trump's just trying to set himself up as some kind of hero. The first public signs of a breach came in 2007 with an anonymous page six item right as Mr. Epstein was negotiating a plea deal to resolve the first federal and state charges against him. Mr. Epstein, the Post reported, had been banned from Mar A Lago for soliciting a masseuse about 18 years of age. The item appeared to refer to Virginia Roberts, who said she was recruited by Maxwell from Mar A Lago Spa just shy of her 17th birthday, back in 2000, when Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump were still close. Several years after the Page Six item, when Ms. Roberts had gone public with her allegations, Mr. Epstein wrote to Ms. Maxwell expressing surprise that Mr. Trump had not gotten more attention, writing that his friend had spent hours at my house with Ms. Roberts. Ms. Maxwell replied that she had been thinking about the same thing in depositions in 2016, with Mr. Trump a leading contender for the world's most powerful public office. Ms. Roberts said that Mr. Trump had never had sex with her and that she couldn't remember seeing him in Mr. Epstein's home. She died by suicide this April, and Virginia told me the same exact thing. When her and I talked about this. She told me the same thing. So I'm not going to sit here and make things up. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I have proof that Trump was abusing people with Jeffrey Epstein. But what I will tell you is this. I think he's lied about the whole relationship, and I certainly think that there's a cover up underway. In 2009, Mr. Edwards, the lawyer representing a group of Epstein victims, set out to depose Mr. Epstein's circle of powerful friends. In his book, Mr. Edwards wrote that Mr. Trump quickly agreed to a phone call. Mr. Epstein was merely a business acquaintance. He told Mr. Edwards he cannot recall exactly why Mr. Epstein had been removed from Mar A Lago. He said he had last seen him at the business meeting at Mr. Epstein's Palm beach home sometime before the allegations came to light. The only reason Trump went on record is because they had the falling out, and Trump thought that he was going to be able to slam at home and cause problems for Epstein by having an interview with Brad Edwards. What, you think Trump cared about the victims? No. He cared how he could use this information to his own benefit. The same thing he's doing now, but in reverse, hiding the information because he knows it's damning against him. Even so, in early 2015, as Mr. Trump began exploring a presidential bid, stories about Mr. Epstein's widening legal trouble still referred to Mr. Trump as his friend. Mr. Trump and his representatives became more aggressive. Mr. Epstein was merely one of thousands of people who had visited Mar A Lago, Alan Garten, Mr. Trump's top aide and lawyer, told BuzzFeed News he was even more definitive that following year, there was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, Mr. Garten told Fox News. They were not friends and they did not socialize together. What this is what I mean, this is what we should be focusing on, the actual lies we can prove. If we do that, everything else is going to fall into place. When a reporter from the Associated Press asked Mr. Trump about Mr. Epstein in 2015, he responded elliptically. He was certainly a man about town, and because of the fact that is a small island, he got to know a lot of people, Mr. Trump said, referring to Palm Beach. When I started reading about the different things and then things were proven, that's a different planet, that's a different world. Interviews in public records, however, indicate that Mr. Trump at times had interacted socially with women who accused Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell of grooming or abuse. The federal case against Ms. Maxwell described her role in grooming three victims under the age of 18 between 94 and 97. One of them, a woman known in court records as Jane Doe, alleged in a separate civil complaint that Mr. Epstein had taken her to visit Mr. Trump at Mar a Lago in 94, when she was 14. This is a good one, right? Mr. Epstein said, elbowing Mr. Trump playfully, according to the complaint. Mr. Trump smiled and nodded, and the two men chuckled. The victim said her case ended in a settlement with Mr. Epstein's estate in 2021. Testifying at Ms. Maxwell's trial, she said she competed in Mr. Trump's Miss Teen USA pageant. Jack O', Donnell, who ran the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City for several years and later wrote a critical book about Mr. Trump, recalled in an interview that Mr. Trump once arrived at the casino after midnight one Sunday in September of 89 with Mr. Epstein and three young women. A state gambling inspector recognized one of the women as tennis star Gabriella Sabatini, who was 19 and was too young to legally enter the casino. In a call that Monday, the inspector told Mr. O' Donnell that all the women looked very young, he said. Soon after, Mr. O' Donnell called Mr. Trump to flag the issue. This is a repeating pattern here, okay? Once or twice you can write it off. This is a pattern and in my opinion, not so easily written off. Yeah, Jeffrey likes him young, Mr. Trump said, Mr. O' Donnell recalled in a recent interview. Too young for me. Mr. O' Donnell previously described the episode, and Slate, the White House, called his account a fabrication. Efforts to reach Ms. Abatini were unsuccessful. Everything's a fabrication, right? Nothing's ever true unless it gives Trump a good light. Whatever the cause of their Latest falling out, Mr. Epstein remained obsessed with Mr. Trump. In the years after their last known contact, he exchanged hundreds of emails with others mentioning his former friend. As Mr. Trump's political career took flight in the mid 2010s, Mr. Epstein's umbrage seemed to grow, even as he maneuvered to regain influence within Mr. Trump's world. He mocked and criticized him in private, calling him nuts and evil beyond belief. According to emails released by Congress, he resented Mr. Trump's efforts to distance himself. The emails show his older, smoother former friend seemed untouchable while he was enveloped in scandals once again, as more and more victims came forward with their accounts of abuse. In an interview taped by Mr. Wolf in 2017 and published by the Daily Beast last year, Mr. Epstein described what he said was Mr. Trump's technique for trying to bed the wives of friends. Mr. Wolf asked how he had such intimate knowledge of Mr. Trump. I was Donald's closest friend for 10 years, Mr. Epstein replied. In emails, he hinted to friends that he could take Mr. Trump down. He didn't say how. All right, folks, well, that's the New York Times profile on the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. And I think they did a good job in connecting the dots here and putting things into context, because there's no doubt that Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump had a friendship that lasted for years. So for me, the real question is this. What did Donald Trump know and when did he know it? All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.