
Former Slovak model-turned-pilot Nadia Marcinko (also known as Nadia Marcinkova) — who once worked as a pilot on Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet, the Lolita Express, and was named as a potential co-conspirator in Epstein’s controversial 2008...
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And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Whenever we're discussing Jeffrey Epstein's Core four, there is always one name that stands out. And that name is Nadia Marcinkova. And that's because the circumstances that led her into Jeffrey Epstein's clutches. Unlike Sarah Kellen Vickers or Adriana Ross or Leslie Groff, Nadia was sold to Jeffrey Epstein at 14 years old. And of course, the grooming process was well underway with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and everybody around them normalizing Jeffrey Epstein's behavior and acting like what was going on was just how people in the upper crust lived. So of course that eventually led to Nadia partaking in the abuse and the
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procuring of other girls.
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And I've always said that the biggest knock on Nadia, in my opinion, was that she didn't speak with the police after all of this went down. Well, now it's coming out that Nadia was speaking to the authorities and she
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provided help to the authorities in their
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investigation against Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. And in return, the DOJ pled her
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case to stay in America even though that she had outstayed her visa.
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So due to her cooperation, the United States government helped her out and let
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her stay in the country. So when we talk about the Core 4, this is why I always said
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that Nadia is a different conversation than the other three. Now look, that doesn't mean that Nadia doesn't have to answer for what she did.
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Once you're an adult, you're an adult, right?
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But if you provided information to the
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authorities and you came forward and you
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admitted what you did and to your part of it. I think that's certainly a step in the right direction. And when you think about the circumstances, when it comes to Nadia, I think we have to understand that her circumstances were a little bit different. And the fact that she came forward and helped the authorities is certainly a good thing. Now, does that absolve her from all responsibility?
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Of course not, especially after anything past the age of 18.
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But it does give you more perspective and more context and certainly a different
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shade on the story.
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Right, because we know that Virginia was
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roped in the same way.
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We know that Haley Robson was roped
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in the same way.
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But what makes Nadia so unique is,
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is that she stuck around for so long even after she was 18.
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Now, there's a lot of complex psychology that goes into that and I'm certainly not qualified to break that down in a cogent manner. So I won't even begin to try. But I do know this Stockholm syndrome
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is a real thing.
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And I think that people that end up afflicted with Stockholm syndrome end up
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doing some wild ass stuff.
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Now again, legally speaking, does that mitigate her crimes?
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That will be up to the lawyers and other people to figure out.
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But in my opinion, I think that Nadia should be treated a bit different than Sarah Kellen Vickers, 100%.
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Especially considering, according to the Epstein files, Nadia came forward and offered up some help.
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Now, of course, there is the other
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school of thought that she didn't offer that help soon enough and that she
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continued to enrich herself, she continued to partake and she continued to be around Jeffrey Epstein. She went and visited him in jail.
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Right. And not just once, but multiple times. So there's definitely a case to be
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made both ways, in my opinion. But for me, I can't help but going back to the fact that she
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was sold by her parents at 14 years old to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Can you imagine the kind of trauma being sold by your parents would bring with it? And then you add all that other
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trauma heaped on top of it. We're talking about a very broken person
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and somebody that's certainly been through it.
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So today we have an article from the New York Post and the headline, Epstein's former Lolita Express pilot girlfriend work
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with the feds in exchange for U.
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S Visa help according to the DOJ files. Now look, first of all, his girlfriend.
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I mean, I guess if you're going
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to raise a girl from 14 years old and then consider her your girlfriend, that's a pretty wild headline. This article was authored By Gabrielle Fami. Nadia Marcinko, the Slovak model turned pilot of Jeffrey Epstein's infamous Lolita Express, snitched
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on the disgraced financier in exchange for
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help getting a US Visa. Files released by the Department of Justice reveal the Eastern European beauty has been one of the most elusive characters of the Epstein affair.
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Marcinkova, now 40, was one of the
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named co conspirators in the pedophile's 2008 Florida Sweetheart non prosecution deal, which saw him plead guilty to state prostitution charges instead of sex trafficking of miners. So the reason that all of these
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women were cut deals is so they wouldn't rat on Epstein.
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That's why there were cut deals down in Florida, because the authorities knew that
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if they didn't give them deals and they pursued them, well, they'd rat on
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Epstein and it would throw the whole plan into chaos. So they gave everybody immunity, all for the purpose of protecting Jeffrey Epstein.
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Her lawyers have insisted Marcinkova is a victim herself.
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She definitely is.
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But then we get to the gray area.
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Does that give her providence to victimize other people?
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We all know the answer to that. The answer is no. And once you get over the age of 18, there is a whole different
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conversation that needs to be had.
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But that doesn't mean I'd have the conversation without having all that other stuff
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in the back of my mind, right? There are circumstances to everything. Not everything's always black and white. You know, there's nuance. A 2022 letter from federal agents, including in the files, confirms for the first time, Marcinkova provided information on both Epstein and his madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, between 2018 and. And 2022. Madam? You mean co conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scumbag? Is that what you mean? Because that's what she is.
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Madam.
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I got your madam right here. Marcinkova participated in several telephonic and in person meetings with our office concerning our investigation of criminal charges against Jeffrey Epstein. And Ghislaine Maxwell, wrote Amanda Young, a special agent with the FBI's Child Exploitation and Human Trafficking Division. So that certainly works in her favor, right? And look, we might not like the rules and how the law works, but look at a guy like Sammy the bull Gravano. What, 19 bodies under his belt, and he's walking around hosting a great podcast. That's how the government works.
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And I'm not saying I agree with it, but they get in bed with
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scumbags all the time. And if they feel like that can further their case against Insert person here. They're more than willing to do it in exchange for snitching. Her lawyers sought the help of President Biden's FBI to allow her to stay in the country in 2022 when her visa ran out. Marcinkova cooperated extensively and was working on her healing and trying to put all of this behind her. Her lawyer insisted it in the exchange. She's finally trying to have a somewhat normal life.
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We really appreciate your continued help and
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support, wrote her lawyer, Erica Dubno, in an email to FBI's Young. Marcinkova was a human trafficking victim, the FBI wrote in its letter to immigration authorities, urging that she could not return to her native Slovakia for fear of retaliation for speaking to the feds. The files now show she was recruited, harbored and obtained by Jeffrey Epstein and others for the purpose of a coercive sexual relationship, wrote Young in a declaration to U.S. citizenship and Immigration Services. Marcinkova is thought to have been brought to the US in the early 2000s, first obtaining a visa through Epstein's associate Jean Luc Brunel's modeling agency. And this is what nobody even talks about yet. Going to get around to it eventually because all these tourists, they're playing catch up. But Jeffrey Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel were engaging in a vast and broad immigration fraud scheme. They were bringing girls in from all over the place. Nobody's even talking about Brazil, but boy, oh boy, he was using Brazil, Peru, several other countries in South America and Central America as well as something I've been very, very, very adamant about that hardly anybody else is talking about. Way too many people are playing politics with this story and the people that are doing it on both sides of the aisle. Congratulations. You're helping this cover up continue to move along. Instead of realizing that neither of these political parties care about you, everybody's just digging in. I mean, I hear people talking about the Clinton deposition yesterday. We don't even know what happened. What, you're going to listen to what the Democrats or the Republicans say to you? Yeah, because they're not biased. How about we wait until we get the transcripts before we start talking about what went down one way or the other? It's amazing how confident people are in the things they say without having anything to base it on. In emails she wrote to Epstein, reviewed by the Post, Marcinkova reveals she started having sex with the creep in 2003 when. When she was 18. But some of the West Palm Peach victims told law enforcement they were made to have sex with Marenko as early as 2002 when they and Marcinkova were underage. The exact year Marcinkova arrived in the US is unknown. 15k14 15 years old
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The emails paint a picture of a manipulative relationship between the Bombshell Blonde and Epstein, where she sought to be his girlfriend while he complained about her efforts to recruit other young girls Forum as opposed to learning to have fun fishing for girls, your focus was how disgusting the bait is, Epstein raged in 2006. Email to Marcinkova when she was 21. Well, I guess because she's 21 at this point it's okay, right? No big deal. If you're over 18, you can be abused. At least according to some dumbfucks out there. You returned from Europe where you had totally free time empty handed, he complained in an apparent reference to her failure to procure girls for him. Well, isn't that nice? But I thought Epstein wasn't doing that. I thought he wasn't looking for other girls. I thought he wasn't involved in a trafficking operation. Isn't that what all the geniuses have told us? You tell me you will dance and don't. You tell me you will do fun sex things and don't. As opposed to just saying, jeffrey, I don't want to dance, but I love you and will try so that there is a real effort. Instead, it's no, no, no and no, he griped. On a different occasion, Marcinkova attempted to leave Epstein around 2010 and get her own apartment, according to the emails. I wanted to have a life with you as your partner. I had a rest of my life planned with you. And I was fully invested in our relationship. That was a fantasy and we couldn't make it work, she wrote. I feel sick thinking about my future with you. Shattering. Yo, this is a serious case of Stockholm syndrome, folks. This is just all bad. And it's truly, truly terrifying to read. You're literally seeing a groom girl from the age of 14 head over heels with her abuser. So if you don't think this is real and it doesn't happen, I don't know what to tell you. The psychology here, it's not junk science. It's real. And when people get brought into a situation at that young of an age and they get groomed goes south real fast. But they kept talking. And it was around the time she got her pilot's license and began flying Epstein's private jet, the the Lolita Express, which prosecutors have alleged he used to shuttle his sex trafficking victims around the globe, including to his twisted pedophile island. I don't know how much he was flying the 747 or 727. Excuse me, that was David Rogers and Larry Vasoski. She might have been flying the Gulf Stream or maybe as an assistant captain, but certainly not the captain of the ship. She wasn't the one flying it. She also started an aviation company in 2001, Avaloop, with the financial backing of Epstein. Website is cool, Epstein wrote in an email to Marcinkova about the business that year. Mix of porn, Groupon and flying. The marketing campaign could be buy with us. We give a flying. What a degenerate, disgusting bastard. And I don't think that hell is hot enough for somebody like Jeffrey Epstein. That business is what allowed Marcinkova to remain in the US after Brunel's agency refused to renew the modeling visa in 2011 when she was 26, the email show. Epstein and Marcinkova stopped communicating in 2018, according to the emails. The same year she started speaking to the feds, her lawyers reached out to the FBI for help. And after her investor visa ran out in 2021, the document show, Marcinkova was accused in Florida court documents of participating in sex acts with minors to satisfy Epstein's criminal sexual desires. She was never charged. Her lawyers declined the comment. All right, folks, so that's a lot to process, right? And a whole lot to take in. So we're going to wrap this episode up right here. But I want to hear from you folks. What do you think? Do you think that Nadia should be
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treated a little bit different than Sarah
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Kellen Vickers or Adriana Ross or Leslie Groff? Or do you think that the whole ass hammer should land on Marcinkova as well? Shoot me some emails and let your boy know. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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The Epstein Chronicles
Host: Bobby Capucci
Episode: Nadia Marcinkova Revealed as Federal Cooperator in Epstein Investigation
Date: May 24, 2026
This episode delves into the newly revealed role of Nadia Marcinkova (also known as Nadia Marcinko), a member of Jeffrey Epstein’s so-called “Core Four,” highlighting her cooperation with federal authorities in the post-Epstein investigation. Host Bobby Capucci explores Marcinkova’s complex and troubling journey—from being trafficked as a child into Epstein’s world, to her actions as an adult, legal status in the US, her controversial plea deal, and her value as a witness against Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
Nadia vs. The “Core Four”
Nadia’s story stands out from the other core female associates (Sarah Kellen Vickers, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groff) because she was brought to Epstein at just 14 years old, effectively sold by her parents and forced into an environment of abuse and normalization of predatory behavior.
[01:01] “Nadia was sold to Jeffrey Epstein at 14 years old. And of course, the grooming process was well underway with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and everybody around them normalizing Jeffrey Epstein's behavior…” – Bobby Capucci
Her Later Role in Epstein’s Operation
As she grew older, Nadia was not only an abuse victim but also implicated in procuring other girls—raising complex questions of culpability vs. victimhood.
[01:52] “That eventually led to Nadia partaking in the abuse and the procuring of other girls.”
Breaking the Silence
Contrary to prior assumptions, Nadia did in fact speak with authorities and was a source of information used against both Epstein and Maxwell, especially after Epstein’s 2019 arrest and Maxwell’s prosecution.
[02:10] “Nadia was speaking to the authorities and...provided help to the authorities in their investigation against Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.”
Government Protection for Cooperation
The federal government allowed Marcinkova to stay in the US even after her visa expired, as a direct result of her cooperation.
[02:18] “The DOJ pled her case to stay in America even though she had outstayed her visa.”
Complex Psychological Factors
The episode grapples with whether Nadia’s initial victimhood mitigates her later actions. Bobby highlights the impact of long-term grooming and likely Stockholm syndrome.
[03:55] “I think that people that end up afflicted with Stockholm syndrome end up doing some wild ass stuff.”
Where Accountability Begins
The host acknowledges adult culpability:
[03:16] “Once you're an adult, you're an adult, right?...That doesn't absolve her from all responsibility. Of course not, especially after anything past the age of 18”
Nuanced Judgment
Capucci argues that, while Nadia must answer for the harm she caused after she turned 18, her traumatic upbringing and unique circumstances mean her case is different from the other Core Four associates.
[04:51] “For me, I can't help but going back to the fact that she was sold by her parents at 14 years old to Jeffrey Epstein. Can you imagine the kind of trauma being sold by your parents would bring with it?”
2008 Florida Plea Deal Context
Her name was included as a co-conspirator in Epstein’s 2008 “Sweetheart” deal. The host asserts that the reason for such deals was to prevent the associates from testifying against Epstein, thus protecting him.
[06:18] “The reason that all of these women were cut deals is so they wouldn't rat on Epstein.”
Federal Documentation and Timeline
Abuse and Manipulation
Host reads excerpts from emails between Epstein and Nadia, showing psychological control and Epstein’s pressure to “recruit” more girls ([13:28]–[15:30]).
[14:14] Epstein to Marcinkova:
“As opposed to learning to have fun fishing for girls, your focus was how disgusting the bait is.”
Business Ties and Visa Issues
On the lasting trauma of child exploitation:
[04:56] “Can you imagine the kind of trauma being sold by your parents would bring with it? And then you add all that other trauma heaped on top of it. We're talking about a very broken person and somebody that's certainly been through it.”
On legal deals and the justice system:
[08:22] “They get in bed with scumbags all the time. And if they feel like that can further their case against Insert person here. They're more than willing to do it in exchange for snitching.”
On the politics and media handling of the case:
[10:12] “Way too many people are playing politics with this story and the people that are doing it on both sides of the aisle. Congratulations. You're helping this cover up continue to move along.”
On the complexity of victimhood and perpetration:
[06:54] “Does that give her providence to victimize other people? We all know the answer to that. The answer is no.”
On the psychological manipulation by Epstein:
[14:29] “You returned from Europe where you had totally free time empty handed, he complained in an apparent reference to her failure to procure girls for him. Well, isn't that nice?... You tell me you will dance and don't. You tell me you will do fun sex things and don't. As opposed to just saying, Jeffrey, I don't want to dance, but I love you and will try…”
Bobby Capucci maintains an unvarnished and direct tone, showing empathy for victims while also expressing clear moral outrage at systemic failures. He’s critical of legal loopholes, political agendas, and the tendency to overlook crucial nuances in the search for justice.
This episode provides a deep dive into the ambiguous and contested legacy of Nadia Marcinkova within Epstein’s criminal network. It juxtaposes her early victimization against her later complicity, ultimately probing whether cooperation with authorities and her unique circumstances should affect public judgment and accountability. The host encourages critical thinking and audience feedback as the investigation and broader story continue to develop.