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The Epstein Chronicles — Episode Summary

Title: New Mexico Investigators Seek Prince Andrew’s Epstein Communications
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: July 14, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, host Bobby Capucci dives into new developments involving Prince Andrew’s connections with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, focusing on investigators in New Mexico moving to preserve every message Andrew exchanged with the pair. The episode unpacks the implications of this evidence preservation in the ongoing inquiry into activities at Epstein’s infamous Zorro Ranch, discussing the legal, social, and personal stakes for Prince Andrew, and reflecting on the wider efforts to hold Epstein’s network to account.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Preservation of Prince Andrew’s Communications

Order to Preserve: Recent news reveals that all digital communications and records between Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein, and Ghislaine Maxwell have been ordered preserved by U.S. Prosecutors. This includes emails, messages, and travel records pertaining to Andrew's reported visits to Epstein’s Zorro Ranch.
- “That’s the kind of news that's certainly going to keep you up at night, because that's the kind of news that eventually leads to an indictment.” — Bobby Capucci (01:35)
Legal Impact: While Andrew currently faces no formal charges, Capucci highlights the seriousness of an evidence preservation order and speculates on its potential to result in grave legal consequences.

2. Scope of the Investigation

Sweeping Orders to Companies: Evidence preservation notices have gone to over two dozen companies (including Google, WhatsApp, Yahoo, American Express, and Expedia) to ensure no relevant data is destroyed.
- "According to reports, the sweeping evidence preservation orders issued to major technology and travel companies prevent the deletion of emails, messages and digital records connected to Andrew’s reported visits to Epstein’s New Mexico ranch while authorities continue their criminal investigation." (03:20)
Focus on Raw Data: Capucci suggests the New Mexico AG’s office wants direct access to data, rather than relying on the DOJ, which he claims is not truly invested in the Epstein investigation.
- “You can’t rely on the DOJ. So if I was New Mexico, I’d be looking to get my hands on the raw data…” (05:08)

3. Zorro Ranch and Prince Andrew’s Visits

On-the-Ground Accounts: Capucci reiterates that, through multiple sources and his own reporting from New Mexico, it's confirmed Andrew visited the ranch—directly contradicting royal denials.
- “I told you that Andrew was at Zorro Ranch. And... when I was there, multiple people said that, oh yeah, Prince Andrew certainly was here visiting Jeffrey Epstein down at the ranch.” (07:42)
Ranch Operations: Authorities have interviewed former ranch staff (cleaners, managers, drivers) to reconstruct who visited and when. Notably, an ex-employee has told investigators they drove Andrew from the airport to the ranch.

4. Survivor Testimonies and the Scale of Abuse

Multiple Allegations: The Zorro Ranch is described as a focus of the inquiry, with mounting testimonies from women alleging grooming and abuse took place on its 8,000 acres.
- “Whatever was going on at that ranch was straight up evil. And I mean that in every sense of the word.” (06:46)
Challenges for Survivors: Capucci empathizes with the difficulty survivors face coming forward, particularly when they feel the system isn’t there to protect them.
- “How do you even bring that up? How do you sit down with your child and tell them that?” (11:04)

5. Prince Andrew’s Denials and Legal Situation

Consistent Denials: Andrew has denied wrongdoing and any knowledge of Epstein’s criminal activities, even settling the civil case with Virginia Roberts without admitting liability.
Photo Controversy: Capucci mocks Andrew’s claim to never have met Virginia, who appears in an infamous photo with him:
- “Yeah, I never met her. This photograph's fake. Turns out the only thing that's fake is your bullshit narrative.” (12:00)

6. Faith in the Justice System

Critique of the DOJ: Capucci is openly critical of the Department of Justice and its past handling of the Epstein case. He frames the current New Mexico probe as a rare and necessary move towards genuine accountability.
- “The DOJ has no desire to find out what happened. When it comes to Epstein, they have one desire and one desire only, to move on.” (05:25)
Call for Witnesses: New Mexico AG Raul Torres is quoted as renewing public calls for anyone with information about abuse at Zorro Ranch to come forward.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the scope of evidence:
- "Prosecutors are seeking to preserve every message that they ever exchanged. Now, are they going to be successful? I don't know... Makes you wonder, doesn't it?" — Bobby Capucci (05:48)
On survivor bravery:
- "It's easy for me to say, I'm not the one that went through it... It's a whole ass other thing for these people to actually do it, especially when you have a DOJ that has no desire to protect them." (11:28)
On Andrew's attempts at denial:
- "This is the preservation of all messages sent that have to do with Andrew and the trip to Zorro Ranch. And remember, he lied about it." (13:37)

Timestamps for Key Segments

[01:29] — Episode theme and Prince Andrew’s predicament with new evidence
[03:20] — Details on the evidence preservation orders to tech and travel companies
[05:08] — Capucci's skepticism about the DOJ and importance of raw data
[06:46] — Investigators’ interviews with former Zorro Ranch staff and scope of abuse testimonies
[07:42] — Firsthand accounts of Andrew at Zorro Ranch
[10:26] — AG Torres’ statement and encouragement for survivors to speak
[11:28] — Challenges facing survivors and lack of faith in prosecution
[12:00] — Andrew’s denials versus photo evidence
[13:37] — Preservation of evidence and its implications for Andrew

Tone and Style

Direct, irreverent, and relentless: Capucci doesn’t mince words, calling out public figures and institutions for perceived failures with biting skepticism and sometimes dark humor, e.g., referring to Prince Andrew as “the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.”
Supportive of survivors: Consistently sides with alleged victims, demanding accountability from the powerful.

Conclusion

This episode brings listeners up to date on a major development: the formal preservation of all digital records related to Prince Andrew’s communications with Epstein and Maxwell. Capucci frames this as a pivotal, potentially damning moment in the wider Epstein saga, one that could break the long-protected silence around elite involvement. He closes with a promise to update listeners as new information comes in, maintaining the podcast’s commitment to “leave no stone unturned” in pursuit of the truth.

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Zip what's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Yo, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family's problems continue to get worse. And now all of the messages that Prince Andrew exchanged with Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein have been ordered to be preserved. And for Prince Andrew, that's terrible news. That's the kind of news that's certainly going to keep you up at night, because that's the kind of news that eventually leads to an indictment. And considering all of the other things that are hanging over Andrew's head right now, certainly not the best news that he's ever received. And if you were wondering why he's using his daughters to try and get back in the graces of the royal family, I'm sure this is one of the reasons why. So today we have an article from International Business Times and the headline Every Message they Exchanged Ex Prince Andrew's communications with Epstein and Maxwell locked down by Prosecutors. This article was authored by Rhea Pathak, former Prince Andrews. Long running links to Jeffrey Epstein have come under renewed scrutiny after US Prosecutors moved to preserve what investigators believe could be the full record of the communication with the disgraced financier and convicted sex trafficker Galaine Maxwell. That could be very, very damning. And if the UK authorities are serious about justice when it comes to Andrew, that's the kind of that could send you on a very long vacation, if you get my drift. And we're not talking about a vacation down to Arabia. According to reports, the sweeping evidence preservation orders issued to major technology and travel companies prevent the deletion of emails, messages and digital records connected to Andrew's reported visits to Epstein's New Mexico ranch while authorities continue their criminal investigation. And look, I'm telling you right now, he was at that ranch. Not only Virginia told me, but other sources while I was down in New Mexico. So he can't even try and wiggle his way out of it now. He'll downplay it and maybe he'll have another excuse for us. Oh, I was at the local Tex Mex place. I have no idea. I was at Roberto's. Wasn't me. Although Andrew faces no charges, the latest move is a watershed moment in the years long inquiry. What do you mean he faces no charges? We don't know what he faces and what he doesn't face yet. This man is under investigation. And while I have my doubts about how far it's going to go, I'm willing to wait and see. Let's see what happens. Let's see who they go after. Let's see who they talk to. Let's see where it all goes. The investigation took a fresh turn after New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torres issued evidence preservation notices to more than two dozen companies, including Google, WhatsApp, Yahoo, American Express and Expedia. According to reports, investigators want to ensure communication connected to Epstein Zorro Ranch remain intact before routine data retention policies can erase them. Yeah, I don't know about routine, but I will tell you this. The more information you can get your hands on, the, the better you're going to be because you can't rely on the doj. So if I was New Mexico, I'd be looking to get my hands on the raw data so I could go through it with my investigators and see what's what. And it's crazy that I even have to say that. Imagine having that little confidence in the DoJ. Now look, it's never been perfect, right? But at least previously under most administrations, it strived for independence. It wasn't the legal arm of the sitting president, but that's what it is now. The DOJ has no desire to find out what happened. When it comes to Epstein, they have one desire and one desire only, to move on. And of course, the big monkey in the wrench, the fly in the ointment, is you, because you refuse to move on. But the department, that's what they want. The last thing they want to do is talk about this. They'd rather talk about literally anything else. One source familiar with the investigation told the media that because Epstein communicated with Andrew through Gmail, prosecutors are seeking to preserve every message that they ever exchanged. Now, are they going to be successful? I don't know. Maybe I'm not too hip on how these servers work. How long is that information held for? Is it kept indefinitely? Is there some kind of dump? And if there is, I would expect that Jeffrey Epstein has been a recipient of it. Considering everything else that we've seen and how we've learned, that Jeffrey Epstein certainly was at the table when it comes to these tech titans. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? The source also claimed that the preservation order extended beyond the emails to include travel records and other digital communications that could help investigators reconstruct activity surrounding the ranch and the people who visited it. And it might be a massive investigation and a massive undertaking, but if you really want to figure out what happened, you have to talk to everybody that you can. Every single person that was ever there that you can document, right? Bring them all in, sit them down and get to work. That's how a case is built. The preservation order come. As authorities continue examining allegations surrounding Epstein's 8,000 acres or a ranch in New Mexico where multiple women have alleged that they were groomed or abused. How many court documents do we have alleging that? How many survivor testimonies do we have alleging that? So, yeah, I'm gonna go with all of that's true. Now, to the extent that it was happening, I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here and make pretend I can tell you exactly how many people were abused in Zorro Ranch or what they went through. But I will tell you this, whatever was going on at that ranch was straight up evil. And I mean that in every sense of the word. Former ranch employees, including cleaners, administrative staff, ranch hands and senior managers, have reportedly been interviewed about visitors to the property, guest movements and day to day operations. Investigators have also questioned witnesses about Andrew's reported visits to the ranch. According to the report, the Inquiry has also interviewed one former employee who allegedly drove the former prince from a local airport. Told you, told you. Years ago. And now it's all coming true. And unlike other people, you can just go back and check my work. I told you that Andrew was at Zoro Ranch. And the reason I knew is because Virginia told me. And not only that, but when I was there, multiple people said that, oh yeah, Prince Andrew certainly was here visiting Jeffrey Epstein down at the ranch. So is it any shock that now they're. They're finally doing an investigation? That's what they uncover. Because breaking news, I'm certainly not some investigator and when I went down there, I had no problem finding people that were willing to talk. So do you think that the Attorney General's office couldn't find people that were willing to go on the record? Come on, nobody buys that. It wasn't that there was no evidence. The problem is there was no will. The following ZipRecruiter radio spot you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words.
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Attorney General Torres said reopening the investigation had been undertaken with deep respect for survivors and a commitment to accountability, adding that authorities continue to encouraging anyone with information about alleged abuse or illegal activity at the ranch to come forward. And look, I agree with that. If you're somebody out there that has information, if you. You're willing to come forward, I think now's the time. Now on the flip side of that, it's easy for me to say, I'm not the one that went through it. I'm not the one that has to live with it or look at my kids and say, hey, look, mom was abused by these disgusting animals. How do you even have that conversation? How do you even bring that up? How do you sit down with your child and tell them that? So it's one thing for me to say people should come forward, right? But it's a whole ass other thing for these people to actually do it. Especially when you have a DOJ that has no desire to protect them. So where does that leave people? It leaves them holding on to their secrets. Once again, despite the renewed focus on his communications, Andrew has consistently denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of Epstein's criminal activity. The former prince settled Virginia Roberts civil sexual assault lawsuit in 2022 without admitting liability or wrongdoing and has repeatedly said he has no recollection of meeting her, despite a widely circulated photograph showing them together. Yeah, I never met her. This photograph's fake. Turns out the only thing that's fake is your bullshit narrative. Imagine telling somebody that that picture is fake, and then imagine being somebody that believes it. Yo, like, for real. For real. What's it like being so gullible? Must be rough. Importantly, prosecutors have not accused Andrew of any offense connected to the latest preservation orders. The legal notices are designed to safeguard potentially relevant evidence while investigators continue examining Epstein's wider network. The New Mexico Attorney General's office has declined to comment further, citing the ongoing criminal investigation. As the renewed evidence preservation effort highlights that authorities continue to examine Epstein's associates nearly seven years after his death in a New York jail in 2019. While the investigation remains active, no new charges have been announced against Prince Andrew, whose past relationship with Epstein continues to draw legal and public scrutiny. Well, not enough of either. Not enough legal scrutiny and not enough public scrutiny. But this kind of information is bad for Andrew. This isn't one of those, oh, it's reputational. This is the preservation of all messages sent that have to do with Andrew and the trip to Zorro Ranch. And remember, he lied about it. So we'll see where it all goes. And like usual, when we got some more information, we'll get it added to the catalog. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.