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No Trust, No Testimony: The Epstein Survivors and UK Authorities (5/31/26)
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Women who say they have information about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor are reportedly reluctant to speak with British police because they do not trust the UK authorities or the British press to treat them properly. Attorney Brad Edwards, who represents...
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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Police over in the UK have expanded their investigation into Prince Andrew and they're calling for survivors or alleged victims to come forward. Well, one of the people that allegedly has something to say about Andrew is a woman from America, but she doesn't want to speak to authorities over in the UK because she doesn't believe that they're actually doing the right thing or that they're really going to try and pursue justice. And she also has some issues with the UK press. And her lawyer, Brad Edwards has said that she has a lot of reservations because of the way that the media was trying to dig into her life. And look, I get it, especially with something like this, you have your own family, your own kids, husband, whatever, and this story comes out and you have to start talking about it, like, how do you explain that? There has to be a lot of, of embarrassment, you know, the whole thing, what could have I done different? All of it. And then these people are asked to relive this once again after a lot of them have compartmentalized it. They've tried to move on with their lives. And now that it's, you know, front page news again, that has to dredge up a whole bunch of repressed memories and repressed feelings. So I'm not shocked to hear that these girls or some of them don't want to speak to the authorities, especially considering the way things are going. Why would anyone want to come forward when it's being called a hoax by the President of the United States? And one thing that I fear over in the UK is that they're going to use the whole entire situation here in America as an excuse to not pursue things in the uk. Oh, well, we couldn't get the files from the Americans, so there's nothing we can do. And then that'll be their excuse and they'll have a built in scapegoat, right? The doj, Donald Trump and everybody else involved. But the problem is the uk they can't extract themselves from this. They're involved. Maybe not as deeply as the United States, but pretty close. Today's article is from the BBC and the headline epstein Survivors Lack Faith in UK Police Investigating Andrew says Lawyer. This article was authored by Chichi Azundu and Olivia Davies. Women who say they have information about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor do not have enough faith in British police to speak to them. And American lawyer representing hundreds of of Jeffrey Epstein victims has told the BBC. Brad Edwards said he had multiple clients who could speak about the former prince but do not believe that they would receive proper treatment in the UK and fear of speaking out would result in press intrusion. Among his clients are a woman who has alleged that she was sent to the UK for sexual encounter with the former prince. Look, there is going to be multiple women. The question is, do they want to come forward and do they have the ability to come forward? Let's remember there's a lot of women from Eastern Europe and we know that Prince Andrew wanted girls down in Peru. So how many women down there or girls that came from the countryside or more rural areas were abused? How many of them might not even have the Internet? And it's crazy to think about this day and age, but there are people who aren't locked into the Internet the way you are, and a lot of those people down in Peru and other developing countries, that's something that is a possibility. So I think when we talk about Andrew himself, I think that there's still a lot more that needs to be uncovered, a lot more that hasn't been looked at. Now, do I think that this investigation is going to do that? I have my doubts. And those doubts certainly increase if people who were harmed don't want to come forward. No victim, no crime, right? So if you don't have people coming forward, it's going to be very difficult to have Prince Andrew held accountable. Mountbatten Windsor has consistently and strenuously denied any wrongdoing. The National Police Chief's Council said people who come forward will be treated with care, compassion and and respect. Edwards told BBC News, our multiple clients, plural, with information about Madbat and Windsor, will not speak with authorities in the UK for two reasons. First, the authorities did not care to do anything when Epstein was alive, so their confidence is low. Second, most important, the harassment by the British press has dissuaded them from ever cooperating with UK authorities or speaking with the British press. Look, I get it, man. You can't force anybody to talk. And if people are uncomfortable, then they are. Now, do I wish that that was different. I do. Do I wish these women would come forward and tell us what they know about Andrew? I do. But the reality is that doesn't look like it's going to happen, at least as of now. Things can always change and, you know, deals can be made, negotiations can occur and people can feel more comfortable. But as of right now, I don't see these women given any information to the English authorities. And I think that when all is said and done, Prince Andrew's probably going to end up walking, not because he's innocent, but because that's the plan. They'll come back to us and they'll say, look, we don't have enough evidence, enough information to move forward, maybe get a slap on the wrist or whatever for, you know, passing trade secrets to Epstein. But that's where it's going to end. And I think that's what they're setting it up for right here. We can't get the information, nobody wants to talk to us. We're at a dead end. And look, I hope that's not the case, right? I really hope that's not true. But I don't have very much confidence in any of the authorities, whether it's America or, or anywhere else. Edwards represents a woman who's made an allegation against Mountbatten Windsor with about an encounter at the former Prince's home in Royal Lodge in 2010, before he had invited her to Buckingham palace for tea. She's the second woman to allege that she was abused in the uk, following Virginia Roberts. So I think that the UK authorities are going to have to do whatever they have to do to try and get people comfortable with speaking to them. But how do you do that? That's the rub, right? That's the question. Once people lose faith in institutions, it's very difficult for them to regain that faith and think that the institutions aren't going to screw them, especially when they've been screwed time and time again by these same people. Edward said that there's more than one client had initially been willing to cooperate with British police in relation to that allegation, but were dissuaded when UK based journalists began investigating the woman as well as her family. I have mixed feelings about that because obviously people are going to look into the accuser, right? They're going to try and figure out if it's a credible accusation. And I really don't have a problem with that. My problem is when these outlets go too far, why are you trying to talk to their families, leave their Kids alone, leave their mom and dad alone and talk to the person who you're trying to get information from. I think the problem, though, is that a lot of these outlets are way too aggressive and they go about it the wrong way. Edwards said other victims took notice of the fact that speaking out had resulted in the woman's privacy being threatened. Thames Valley police said it had engaged with the woman's legal team, but her lawyer had said she would not communicate with police over fears regarding her privacy. And that's an indictment on the authorities over in the UK, 100%. And there's still a lot of fear when it comes to dealing with people like Andrew. We're still talking about the son of the Queen. And you have to think there's still loyalists out there that still want to manage what's going on, that still want to try and make it not as bad as it is.
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Edwards confirmed Thames Valley police had been in contact with him. Last week, the force said it could investigate allegations of sexual misconduct against the former prince as part of its ongoing inquiry into alleged misconduct in public office, which began when documents released in the U. S suggested he had passed sensitive information to. To Epstein while working as trade envoy for the British government. And I think that's pretty clear cut. I don't think that there's any doubt that that happened. And if Andrew gets in any trouble whatsoever, it'll be for that, not for sexual assault. That's my prediction. BBC News has also spoken to Sigrid McCauley, another US lawyer who is representing Epstein survivors who may have been trafficked to the UK by Epstein. She told BBC News since the US Department of Justice released the Epstein files in January, she does not believe she has received any form of communication from the Metropolitan Police. Now, you would think that they would try and contact Sigrid McAuley and David Boyes, considering they represented Virginia Roberts. But no, not a word. And again, look, I just don't have confidence in any of the authorities on any continent to do the right thing here. Too many people were involved, Too many powerful people in the UK and elsewhere were wrapped up with Epstein. So they're going to try and protect them, just like Here in America. Roberts made a complaint to London's Metro Police in 2015. Officers interviewed her a number of times, but she was told there would not be any investigation. Matt Batten Windsor settled for an estimated 12 million pounds in a civil case she brought against him in 2022. She took her own life, allegedly last year. And boy, if she was around right now, this would be a whole different ball game. A whole different ball game and Prince Andrew would seriously be in jeopardy. But considering what we're hearing here and that Brad Edwards is saying that his clients don't want to speak to the authorities, I just don't have confidence that we're going to see this ball get pushed over the goal line. He was arrested on February 19 and released under investigation on suspicion of misconduct in public office. He has only ever been described by Thames Valley Police as a man in his 60s from Norfolk. As police forces do not usually name people unless they've been charged, man. Mountbatten Windsor has denied any personal gain from his role as UK trade envoy between 2001 and 2011. Oh yeah, he didn't gain anything from that. Just a guy doing his duty, that's all. Love of country, love of Queen, love of Epstein. Epstein, who was convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor in 2008, died in a New York prison in 2019 as he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges. A National Police Chief's Council spokesperson said. As part of the UK policing response, efforts have been made to contact victim survivors who have already chosen to share their experiences publicly. In some cases, this has involved engagement with legal representatives. However, we recognize that we have not yet been able to reach everyone and our efforts continue. We understand that coming forward can be incredibly difficult and we want anyone affected to know they can do so in their own time when they feel ready. Our doors remain open. Should any victim survivor choose to contact UK policing, they will be treated with care, compassion and respect. With their well being, privacy and right to anonymity. At the center of the Our response now look Great words, right? But are they true? According to these survivors, they don't believe it. So the UK police have to try and rebuild trust. They have to try and show these women that they're trying to do the right thing and they're not going to out them. That's going to be tough. So we'll see what we see. And if these women come forward and they give some information to the UK police, that could change everything. The question is, will they? Alright folks, that's gonna do it for this one. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.