
Sarah Kellen’s closed-door interview with the House Oversight Committee is being described by Chairman James Comer as the most substantive and productive testimony the committee has received so far in its Epstein probe. Kellen, one of the four women...
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And welcome to another episode of the Epstein chronicles. On Thursday, May 21, 2026, Sarah Kellen Vickers appeared before Congress to talk about Jeffrey Epstein. And according to reports that we're getting from people that were there, she has given the most substantive testimony so far. And according to reports, she gave the committee three names that the committee wasn't familiar with. Now, with that said, I still have my doubts. We're talking about a woman here who had every chance in the world to light Jeffrey Epstein up. And all of the revisionist history all of a sudden about Sarah Kellen Vickers and and her fearing Jeffrey Epstein is pretty convenient now. But at the time it was happening when everybody was clamoring for Sarah Kellen Vickers to come forward and provide evidence she didn't do it. But now that the spotlight has turned to her and she knows that she's been mentioned so many times in the court documents, well, she sure has a lot to say now, doesn't she? And just like that, Sarah Kellen Vickers has turned herself into from one of the co conspirators and part of the core four into a victim. And listen, I'm not going to try and pretend to you that this isn't nuanced, that it's not complicated. It is. And if Sarah Kellen Vickers would have come forward right away, then it would be a different conversation. But instead she went on to become a millionaire married to a NASCAR driver while Epstein's survivors were clawing for people to listen to them and to believe them. But Sarah Kellen Vickers couldn't be bothered to come out then, right? Because she wasn't expected to because nobody was demanding it. And now that it's been demanded, now that she's been forced to do it, we're supposed to cheer and act like she's some kind of big victim all of a sudden. Not on this podcast. Today's article was published by Ms. Now and the headline Sarah Kellen gave most substantive testimony yet in Epstein probe, Comer says. Well, as you all know, whatever Comer says, I don't believe. Not exactly what I would call a paragon of truth. This article was authored by Ebony Davis. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer said former Jeffrey Epstein aide Sarah Kellen provided the most substantive testimony to date after Kellen spent hours Thursday answering questions about the convicted sex offenders in her circle and the alleged abuse network during a closed door deposition. You mean the abuse she was part of? How many girls did she lead into the belly of the beast? And where was all this compassion back then? Where was all this compassion in 2021? Where was all this compassion in 2019? So, look, if people want to buy into what Kellen is selling here, that's cool, like usual. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. I'm giving you my opinion, the way I see it and the way it looks to me. Does that mean that's, you know, the be all, end all? Of course not. But after all these years and all the evidence and testimony we've heard about Sarah Kellen's role, the only way that she should escape any kind of real scrutiny, in my opinion, is if she has actionable intelligence that she can serve up that leads to the arrest and conviction of other people that were involved. You see, I don't look at this as a single lone predator type of situation. In my opinion, this is rico. So I look at all of these people as part of the organization, so they all share blame. And if it's good for my family and my friends, it's certainly good enough for Jeffrey Epstein. Because I promise you, every single person that's associated with, with a Mafia family that gets taken down, everybody's going to prison. Oh, well, I just answered phones. Oh, yeah, you're part of it. Prison. Well, I was just getting the mail. Prison. I just received some money from my Uncle Joe. Well, your funds are frozen now. Your account's frozen, and every dollar you ever make is going to be under scrutiny. That's how it works in the real world. And that's, of course, your Jeffrey Epstein. Of all the people we've interviewed thus far, this was by far the most substantive, productive interview that we've had. She was very brave coming forward. Oh, yeah, very brave when she's being compelled to do so. I can't imagine how difficult it was for her to go into detail about the abuse that she endured at the hands of Epstein and Maxwell Comer told reporters after the deposition, later adding, I believe she was a victim now. Oh, they're setting it up. This is all about Glenn Maxwell. They're going to start calling Glenn Maxwell a victim soon. That's my opinion. Kellen's the latest figure to appear before the House Oversight Committee as lawmakers ramp up their investigation following the release of more than 3 million pages of Epstein related files earlier this year. Oh, yeah, ramping up the investigation. Is it ramping up the COVID story for Donnie Diddles? During her testimony, Kellen denied she was an accomplice in Epstein's sex trafficking operation and instead betrayed herself as one of his victims amid renewed scrutiny of the late financiers inner circle. All of a sudden, big victim, and the people who are Taurus to the story are just going to go along with it, and they don't do that for no reason. When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein in this story, there's always some other wrapped in. And here, in my opinion, it's about softening the ground for Maxwell to be called a victim, too. That's what Comer's doing. And it's wild as hell to me that people are just going along with it. Kellen, who worked for Epstein's personal assistant for years, told lawmakers she was abused by Epstein and had been manipulated, controlled and groomed from a young age, according to prepared remarks obtained by Ms. Now. I worked for and was sexually and psychologically abused by Jeffrey Epstein for over a decade, Kellen said. She said Epstein initially hired her as an unpaid assistant before coercing her into sex, and that she said she believed enduring the abuse was necessary to keep her job. Look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Kellen wasn't abused by Epstein. She probably and most likely was, but she had ample opportunity to put that son of a on blast. And instead, what did she do? Went and removed computers, helped the COVID up, go forward, kept bringing girls into the belly of the beast. And then for her whole entire woe is me sob story, did she leave the part out where she was a millionaire married to an NASCAR driver living the life of Riley? You know who wasn't living the life of Riley? These girls who were abused. Girls like Carolyn who took their own lives, girls like Virginia who took her own life. So please save the sob story now. If you want to call Sarah Kellen Vickers at this point, a cooperating witness, cool. I'm down with that. But putting her in the same category as girls that were at Palm Beach High School that were getting abused after Sarah Kellen Vickers herself led them to Jeffrey Epstein's house. That is a bridge too far for me. Kellen, who referred to herself as a literal indentured slave. Oh, Jesus. Really? To Epstein, said she worked constantly for low pay and described herself as trapped financially and emotionally. I know some of you were wondering why I did not leave. I had nowhere else to go. I had no money, no family, no education, and no sense that I deserved any better. She said. That's a lie. She had parents. She stopped talking to her parents when she got with Jeffrey Epstein. Have we forgotten the article that her parents put out? The interview with Delhi Mel? Like, I know there's a lot of people that are new to the topic, but not me. And you're not going to slip this bullshit by me. I'm sorry. And just because you're abused doesn't give you the right to abuse others.
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she also alleged the abuse continued even while Epstein was serving his Florida jail sentence, saying he contacted her from jail and demanded sexually explicit video calls. Well, I don't doubt that. We know that Jeffrey Epstein was up to no good when he was out on bail, when he was out on probation. And look, Kellen's not the biggest, you know, criminal, the biggest villain in the story. She's just part of it. And I think that if Sarah Kellen Vickers is looking for redemption, then she's going to have to come a lot more correct. And I think that if she's looking for redemption, she's going to have to do more than just try and frame herself as a victim. She's going to have to take responsibility for what she did. And while I haven't seen the transcript yet, I have my doubts that she's doing that. Kellen has long faced public scrutiny because she was identified as one of four alleged co conspirators granted immunity in Epstein's controversial 2007 plea deal with federal prosecutors in Florida. But Kellen testified Thursday that federal prosecutors labeled her a potential co conspirator in Epstein's deal without ever interviewing her or contacting her until 2019. They don't have to contact you to label you a co conspirator. Are you kidding me right now? Oh, yeah. Hey, you know what? Vinnie the Chin, we want to let you know that you're a co conspirator with Vinnie Gorgeous. Like what, do they think everybody's stupid? Do they think everybody has no idea how a criminal operation works? Victims and court filings over the years accuse Kellen of scheduling massages and recruiting girls for Epstein. Kellen also provided lawmakers with three previously unknown names of individuals allegedly tied to Epstein's abuse network on Thursday, according to Comer, though he declined to identify them publicly. Look, that's what I'm talking about. If she has actionable information that leads to convictions, that leads to arrests, then let's play ball. I've said that from the jump. My biggest problem with the core four is their silence. They should have come forward a lot earlier and they should have stepped up. Then I would have had some empathy like I do for Nadia, not for these people that sat on the sidelines, that enriched themselves, that had all these great years where they could have come forward and stop Jeffrey Epstein. But no, she chose not to do it. So I choose not to grant her the empathy she's looking for. And my opinion might be tainted a bit due to the conversations I've had with people about Sarah Kellen and her alleged role and what Epstein was doing. One very positive thing today is she gave us three names of people that were involved in the abuse, comer said. Wait, I thought that there were no other names. I thought nobody was involved. Isn't that what Cash Patel and all of the MAGA influencers on Twitter told us? Oh, come on. There's a big hoax. There's no names here. Everything's just a big joke. It's not immediately clear when the committee is expected to release the transcript of the deposition, and when they do, obviously we'll get it added to the catalog. Kellen urged lawmakers not to require additional Epstein survivors to publicly relive their abuse through congressional interviews or testimony. I hope and pray that I am the only sexual abuse survivor that has to come before you in this manner. Kellen said, nobody else who has been through the hell that Jeffrey Epstein put us through should ever have to endure the pain of recounting it again publicly. That seems weird. Don't you want people to know what happened so we can stop it from happening again? Sure, let's everybody just sit on the sidelines. Some Democrats expressed frustration after the deposition, including Raja Krishnamoorthy of Illinois, who said Kellen was unwilling to answer certain questions. We need more questions, and probably we're gonna have to do it under oath again in a compelled setting, maybe, maybe with the subpoena, because certain questions were not answered by the witness. And that's my guess. This is some kind of rehab tour leading up to Maxwell getting pardoned. And I hate being so cynical about things, but. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not going to be gaslit. I'm not going to be dog walked, and we're certainly not going to rewrite history here. The committee has interviewed several figures tied to Epstein in recent months. Witnesses questioned so far include former President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, longtime attorney Darren Indyke, accountant Richard Kahn, and a former prison guard connected to Epstein's detention before his 2019 death in federal custody. So first it was Tova Noel, and. Yeah, well, now we think it was definitely a suicide. You know, she told us so. And then we flipped the script to Sarah Kellen Vickers, and all of a sudden, well, she's a big victim, too. Two things can be true at once. I have no doubt, and I do not dispute that Epstein abused Sarah. Kellen Vickers. He abused everybody. My problem is she never came forward. She never stepped up, and she never tried to stop him. And we're not talking about some girl who was, you know, a drug addict, somebody nobody would listen to. Her husband was Brian Vickers a NASCAR driver. If Kellen Vickers felt so passionately about what Epstein was doing, she could have went to her husband and they could have set something up, call the right people, got the right lawyers, protected themselves, and been ready to go. But she didn't do that, did she? But now that the story's blowing up again and she's in the spotlight, all of a sudden, she wants to come forward and tell her side of the story. Well, cool. I'm glad you told your side of the story. I'm glad that you've decided to finally speak up. But my question remains the same. If you knew all of this, then why wait until now? All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 22, 2026
This episode of The Epstein Chronicles, hosted by Bobby Capucci, centers on the recent closed-door congressional testimony of Sarah Kellen Vickers, a former member of Jeffrey Epstein’s core group of assistants—often called the "core four." Bobby examines the public and legal implications of her testimony, which reportedly included the disclosure of three previously unknown individuals involved in Epstein’s abuse network. Drawing on his trademark skepticism and no-nonsense tone, Bobby critiques both Kellen’s timing and motives for coming forward, and the broader handling of accountability for Epstein’s inner circle.
Bobby Capucci maintains a critical and uncompromising stance throughout the episode, commending any movements toward justice but casting doubt on attempts to recast key Epstein associates as mere victims. He calls for genuine accountability and a vigilant public eye, reminding listeners that while nuance exists, responsibility cannot be erased by selective memory or self-serving narratives.