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Ted Waitt And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 6) (7/30/26)
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Ted Waitt told the House Oversight Committee that he met Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein at a Hong Kong dinner in November 2003 and began dating Maxwell the following year, remaining in a relationship with her until September 2010. Waitt...
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And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to the Ted Waite testimony that he gave to Congress. Mr. Squadani, you lived in California at that point, right? Answer yeah. Question by Redacted I've got some detailed questions about his incarceration. I'll just run through them. Were you aware of the Florida Science Foundation? Answer no. Question Were you aware? And if so, what was your knowledge of Mr. Epstein's work release agreement? Answer I was told by Ms. Maxwell that he was allowed to go to his office during the day and then report back to a facility where he spent the night? Question Did Ms. Maxwell ever characterize that like, you know, Jeffrey can't believe he got this amazing deal, Anything of that nature? Answer I wouldn't say it was that way. It was more like, yeah, he had a good deal. I Wouldn't say, you know, it was more like he did it then he got an amazing deal like he had arranged it. I think that that's the way she put it, rather than he got an amazing deal from someone else. Question Jeffrey successfully arranged this great deal for himself? Answer it was a deal. I wouldn't say it was a great deal. It was a deal. Yeah, it seemed a little unusual to me, but again, I wish I would have done more research on it at the time, but I didn't. Question Was there any tension, let's just say at the time, for now, between if Ms. Maxwell was presenting Epstein's charges and his situation as sort of downplaying it, it's not that serious, but also being pretty happy, Jeffrey being pretty happy with the day, with the way the deal worked out. Was there any tension in those? Did you ever say to yourself, wait a second, you know, is this a serious thing or is it not? Answer well, I clearly didn't want her affiliating with him and I didn't want to affiliate with him and I had no affiliation with him myself, so I think I probably would have pushed more in that direction. To your knowledge, did Ms. Maxwell ever visit Epstein while he was incarcerated or on work release? Answer not to my knowledge. Question did you ever visit Epstein in his office? He was on work release? Answer no. Question we have another member who joined if they could just identify themselves. Congresswoman Nancy Mace, S.C. question Did Ms. Maxwell ever mention Virginia Roberts? Not that I can recall. Question Ms. Maxwell, we've touched on the sort of separation of Ms. Maxwell from Mr. Epstein over the course of your relationship with her. We've also touched on your breakup with with Ms. Maxwell. Ms. Maxwell told the DOJ last year that the reason for your breakup was that in 2009, a lawyer named Scott Rothstein tried to blackmail you by asking for 10 million in exchange from dropping Ms. Maxwell from a series of civil suits. From your recollection, did that happen? Answer no. Question Is there a version of that that happened to the best of your recollection? In other words, did you have any interaction with Mr. Rothstein? Answer Mr. Rothstein presented a financial proposal to a friend of mine at the time named AJ Descala. He presented that proposal to an associate of mine, somebody who worked for me. I saw the details of that proposal and thought it was a total scam and just didn't think it was very a worthwhile investment. Question what was the proposal, in summary, that you recall? Question in summary, as I recall, it had to do with something to do with sexual harassment lawsuits, not sexual assault or sex trafficking or sexual harassment. And they were doing something with lawsuits to pay off people early and were going to more money later, and they wanted money to do it. In the beginning, it just seemed like a terrible idea to me. So, Question. And was the approach to your associate, was it related to you in any way? In other words, as Rothstein asking middleman to ask you, or was it just between Rothstein and. And the associate? Well, yeah, they were asking me for money because I have money. Neither one of them had money, and they both are in jail now, so. Question. Did the proposal have any connection to Ms. Maxwell? I don't recall it being specific to Ms. Maxwell as well. Question. So do you have any recollection of Mr. Rothstein communicating anything at all specifically related to Ms. Maxwell, either to you or indirectly to your associate? Yeah, I do believe her name came up, but I don't think it was in the context of any of those sexual lawsuits. It was never tied to that. To Epstein's crimes or a lawsuit involving Epstein's crimes. I believe Epstein was a Palm beach lawyer, so I thought it was more to do with Palm beach, but I don't believe Epstein's name ever came up. Question. But with respect to Ms. Maxwell, what's your recollection of the context in which her name came in? I don't recall specifically. Frankly, I reviewed that document in preparation for this, that I mentioned that her name came up, but I don't remember in what context it came up, but it wasn't in relation to the lawsuits, at least as I recall. So I don't remember how it came up. Question. Just trying to envision it for us. Would there be some other context in which a name would come up from Mr. Rothstein other than in relation to the financial proposal that. That he was making? He might have known her. I don't know. He was a fairly prominent figure, I think, for a time in Palm Beach. It may have been something as simple as, hey, I saw Ghislaine at the supermarket last week. I don't know. I don't know. Question. But sitting here today, is it right that you have no specific recollection of Ms. Maxwell's name having any connection to Mr. Walt Stein's financial proposal? Am I supposed to answer that? Yes or no? Do you? Cuts them off. I do not recall her name having anything to do with specific financial proposals that they gave me. Thank you. And it's right that you rejected the proposal? Yes. To the best of your recollection? Did the proposal have any connection at all to your breakup with Ms. Maxwell? No question. Do you happen to know whether Rothstein ever ended up filing whatever suits he said he was going to file? I don't know. Our understanding is that you made a series of payments to Ms. Maxwell over the years, and we would like to have a better understanding of those payments. So I'm going to introduce Minority Exhibit A. Question. The only entry that has any relevance to you is maybe 2/3 of the way down. So this is an account statement, it looks like from the upper left hand corner for 116 E. 65th St. LLC, which was Maxwell's home address at the time. The monthly statement is for May 2008. And partway down the page, the statement appears to show a $30,000 transfer from you to this account. There are similar $30,000 payments on a monthly basis through at least April of 2010. So we estimate it might be around $720,000 in total. Just to start, do you recall what these payments were for? Answer, these were monthly payments I made for what I felt was my share of her and to help with her expenses of her staff and house. I had maintained an office in the residence at East 65th Street. I had closed there. I spent time there and I was just providing financial support because I was using it. So I felt it was the right thing to do. Question how did that idea first come about? Did you spontaneously suggest it to her or was it her idea? I don't recall specifically how it came about. And was the support meant to be specifically linked to expenses related to the residents? Yeah, mostly staff. How much staff did she have? There were two full time staff, a driver and a housekeeper. I think at one point they were going to leave or something, I can't remember. But that was mostly what it was and I used the driver myself and, and I wanted to contribute. Question Was it your understanding that Ms. Maxwell probably was not able to cover the totality of those expenses on her own? I was never privy to Ms. Maxwell's financial affairs, but I think she appreciated the assistance. Question, it sounds like you have maybe some memory that the two staffers were threatening to leave at some point, is that right? Yeah. I don't recall the specifics around it, though. Do you recall some connection between them threatening to leave and the beginning of this arrangement? I vaguely recall that. Again, I might be mixing things up, but I think there was something around the staff. I wanted to pay my share and I think that continued until that 30,000 continued until we broke up. Question, do you recall why these payments were made to the LLC and not just to her personally? Answer I assumed. I'm speculating, but I assume this is where she wanted them to go. And I assume this went into property and paid expenses for the house. It's not an atypical for somebody who owns a property to have a title in an LLC and run the expenses. Through that question, our understanding is that this LLC was controlled by Darren Indyke, who was Mr. Epstein's lawyer. Do you recall being aware of that at the time? No question. Do you recall knowing who Mr. Indyke was or having any interactions with him? I don't recall having interactions with him. I remember hearing the name Darren quite frequently as someone Ms. Maxwell interfaced with. Question what would be the context of why Ms. Maxwell would be interfacing with Darren as she described it? Again, I don't recall. Mostly just business transactions hey guys, it's Ryan.
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been at the period of time when Ms. Maxwell was really substantially working for Epstein and not after she started to taper off? Because this is 2008 I think we had said that at this point, Maxwell wasn't really working for Epstein. Is that right? Answer. I don't believe so, but I think that she still had a relationship and use maybe some of the legal services of his office. Question. Can you elaborate on that a little bit? What was your understanding to which Ms. Maxwell continued to have interactions or business with Mr. Epstein's staff after she stopped working for him? Ms. Cowan? So I think several times today he's testified his understanding was that she was minimizing her work for Mr. Epstein over time, but he doesn't know the specifics. Question. No problem. But the specific idea that Ms. Maxwell may have been utilizing, let's say, Mr. Epstein's legal services, I think that's a little bit beyond what I think I at least previously understood. So could you just elaborate on what you remember about that? Answer. Again, I wasn't privy to the specific details of her working relationship with Mr. Epstein or any of his entities. All I do know, I remember hearing the name Darren and her talking to him on frequent occasions, I think, throughout the relationship. I don't know if they were like friends or, you know, if they work together and she was asking his advice. There was a lot of interaction. You want the details of that interaction? I don't really know. Question and do you recall that interaction sort of staying CONSTANT Even as Ms. Maxwell other work started to wind down for Mr. Epstein? Answer, I can't recall the frequency of how it was, but I recall it being somewhat consistent. Question. Do you recall any other folks on Mr. Epstein's staff whose name you sort of heard with maybe a similar degree of frequency, whether that's the accountant as opposed to the lawyer, or anybody else from the Epstein team that Ms. Maxwell seemed to interact with a fair amount? Answer. The person I remember, she was a pilot, and she interacted, I think, quite a bit with his pilot. But I just assumed that was like pilots talking to pilots, that type of thing. Ms. Maxwell wasn't a pilot though, right? Ms. Maxwell was a pilot, a helicopter pilot. I did not know that. Okay. And I understand the natural assumption of, hey, pilot, the pilot. But what, if anything, is your recollection of either the extent to which Ms. Maxwell communicated with Mr. Epstein's pilot and if so, what they communicated about? Answer I don't know. I wasn't privy to those conversations. Mr. Epstein had a pretty substantially sized staff. Was there anybody else from his world that you could recall Ms. Maxwell having a consistent communication with? Nobody that I can think of. And as far as you know, did these $30,000 payments have any connection to Mr. Epstein or Mr. Epstein's legal trouble around the time? No, I think that's a fine time to transition to. To maybe some members that may have some questions that they would like to ask. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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