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Ted Waitt And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 9) (8/1/26)
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Ted Waitt told the House Oversight Committee that he met Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein at a Hong Kong dinner in November 2003 and began dating Maxwell the following year, remaining in a relationship with her until September 2010. Waitt...
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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in to the Ted Waite testimony that he gave to Congress. Ms. Mace I have a few more questions. Ms. Katay. Go ahead. Ms. Mace. If you don't mind. We're voting today, apparently so. I'm going to miss my flight. Mr. Spector. Go ahead. Ms. Mace. You said earlier in your testimony that you had met with Epstein or seen him, you know, happenstance sort of running into him or whatever. Did you ever see women that looked young around them or near him at any of those encounters? Mr. Waite on two occasions he was with young women who. Ms. Mace. Did she look under 18? Mr. Waite No, I would have guessed in her early 20s. Ms. Mace okay. Mr. Waite. She looked like a model type. I don't believe you were in the room. I said I think there was Eastern European and I was told that she was a girlfriend. Ms. Mace. And did you ever hear any rumors about his behavior? Like in your circles in polite society? Did you ever hear rumors. Wait. Not that I can recall. Ms. Mace what was his behavior and what it may have been? Mr. Waite not that I can recall. Ms. Mace okay. And then have you. You said that you financially supported Ghislaine Maxwell. I think to the tune of around 30 GS a month. Was that normal for a girlfriend? Had you given that amount of money to your girlfriends on average to help them maintain their lifestyles? Mr. Waite I haven't had that many girlfriends where I provided. She was the first one I provided that level of financial support to. Ms. Mace what would have been. Have you ever provided that support to a girlfriend previously or post? Ghislaine? Mr. Waite no, I was married previous to that. Ms. Okay. Mr. Waite. And this was later employed our relationship. Ms. Mace. So Ghislaine Maxwell is the only girlfriend that you've ever paid 30 GS to a month? Mr. Waite I did provide support to my current wife before we got married and still do. Mace. And then the 7 million in the month that you broke up in 2010. September 2010. Excuse me. 8 million. It's a lot of money. Maybe it's 10 or 11. But for the amount of money that you gave her In September of 2010, had you ever given a girlfriend that amount of money? Mr. Waite no. Mr. Scaldani jumps in. Just to clarify. Mr. Waite. Was it the amount that's reflected on the document is 7.2 million. Is that your recollection Mr. Waite. Whatever the document says. Scaldani. Okay. Ms. Mace. But you'd never given a girlfriend the amount of money. Wait, no. Mace. And it was the month that you broke up, so this was like a breakup gift. Wait. Yeah. Mace. You know, kind of like a divorce. You were together a long time. Wait, it was like a pre. A palimony settlement type thing. She was planning on spending the rest of my life with me and was giving. You know. Mace cuts him off. Did you ever have, like, an agreement in, like, writing with her when you were together about financials or NDAs or anything like that? Wait. No. Mace. Okay. Mr. Spector. We've had an additional member join. Mr. Khanna, do you mind introducing yourself for the record? Ro Khanna. I represent California's 17th district. Ms. Cathay. Thank you. Mr. Waite. Thank you for bearing with us. We're jumping around a lot here and onto a lot of different topics. I'm going to step back a little bit into something that you mentioned very briefly in the very first hour. You Talked about the 2008 plea deal that was given to Mr. Epstein, his subsequent imprisonment, and everything that came out about Ms. Maxwell following that. So my question is, did you learn that she had been labeled publicly as a co conspirator of Mr. Epstein while you were still dating her? Mr. Waite. No. Ms. Cathay. You did not learn that until after you broke up with her? Mr. Waite. Yeah, I think it was much later. Mr. Scaldani, can you clarify when she was identified as a co conspirator? Ms. Cathay. The reporting did not come out until. I'm sorry, I don't have the specific year, but it didn't come out until a few years after he was in prison. But that's why we're clarifying today. When you found out. Mr. White. Yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't until after we broke up. Skaldani jumps in. And just for the record, I don't think any co conspirators were identified in the 2008 conviction and the process leading up to that. Ms. Cathay. That's correct. She was not identified in the plea agreement, but it became public and she was labeled publicly as a co conspirator as time went on. Mr. Skaldani. Okay. Ms. Cathay. And that's what we're referring to. Ms. Mace. What year was that? Ms. Cathay. I don't have a specific year when the reporting came out, but it was several years after he was in prison. Well, he was never in prison, so there's that? Ms. Callan and which I think he went to prison twice. Cathay. The first time he went to prison, which was in 2008. No, he didn't go to prison. These people don't even know the story. How are they going to get us to justice? Ms. Callan? I think, I mean I don't have any recollection of any co conspirators being named in that time frame. So I think in order for us to all pine on that, we would have to see a document. Mr. Spector, the non prosecution agreement names four women, none of whom are Ms. Maxwell, per my recollection. But it did name four during his initial arrest and it says these four and all other potential co conspirators. And subsequent to that there are media reports that indicated that Ms. Maxwell may have been involved. That's what we're referring to. Ms. Callan, I don't think that there's. There was not, it wasn't widely reported at the time. I also think that most of the documents were under seal until recently. Mr. Spector, Mr. Waite, I think you've already been clear, but I want to be clear again. Do you have, did you have any knowledge during your relationship with Ms. Maxwell that she was considered to be involved in Jeffrey Epstein's crimes in any way? Mr. Waite? No. Ms. Cathay, question. Thank you for clarifying that. During the course of your relationship then you not knowing that she was being accused in any way, did she defend herself to you and her involvement with Epstein in his capacity as her employer? Answer. Yeah, about. I recall late in our relationship her denying involvement with all his crimes. Question did she ever defend Mr. Epstein? I don't recall her defending him. Question. Do you generally remember whether she thought the allegations were true? I don't recall getting into that level of detail. Question. I mean he was her ex boyfriend. He was convicted of a serious crime. You don't recall any conversation about how her general feelings towards his conviction. Answer. Like I said, she downplayed the event. She made it seem like he, you know, got a better deal. And you have the conversation. I just remember her denying any direct involvement with it when I asked because I asked about it. Like I said, I wish I would have done more research at the time, around the 2008 time frame. I wish I would've. I didn't think to question and including the timeframe that follows your breakup, did you ever contact her again once the news started coming out more frequently and she was in the press and being labeled as a co conspirator involved, did you ever contact her again to discuss that? Answer, no question. Okay, I'd like now to turn to Ms. Maxwell's civil suits. Specifically, did you assist Ms. Maxwell in any way with any of the civil cases that were brought against her? Answer, no, question. And more generally, did you ever witness anything suspicious about Ms. Maxwell in a relationship with young women or girls? No, Ms. Callan. He's answered that like, six times now. Ms. Cathay. I understand it's very hard to hear in the back of the room. Ms. Callan. It's in the record. Six times, Ms. Cathay. Understood. I'd like to shift gears a little bit. How often would you travel with Ms. Maxwell? Sometimes every other week. Sometimes or most every other week? Because I had my four children, three of whom were teenage girls at the time. So every other week from Sunday to Sunday. So if I did travel with her, it would have been at most every other week. And where were you traveling to every other week? Answer Various places around the world. I had worked very hard for 20 years. You know, now I was retired, so I was, you know, seeing the world, going to as many places as I could, learning a lot. Question. Did you ever take any business trips with Ms. Maxwell? Not that I can recall. Specifically for business. And you mentioned your children, but who else would travel with you whenever you would take these trips? Yeah, it was typically just the two of us. And I'd like to shift now to Mr. Epstein's properties specifically. I recognize that you mentioned many of these in your opening statement, but for the purpose of the record, we are going to go through each one. Okay. Have you ever been to Mr. Epstein's island, Little St. James? No. Did you ever visit Mr. Epstein's Palm beach home? One time I was in Palm beach with Ms. Maxwell. She said that she had to retrieve something from the property. We stopped there. I didn't get out of the car. She invited me in. I said no, so I never went inside. But I was in front of the house. Was Mr. Epstein there? Answer not to my knowledge. Question by Mr. Spector, why didn't you go in? Mr. I was told. I mean, it was. It was just weird. It was the ex boyfriend's, you know, ex boyfriend's house. I just didn't. I didn't want to go in there. Ms. Cathay. Question. Did Ms. Maxwell tell you to stay in the car? Answer no. She invited me in. Question. Did you ever visit Mr. Epstein in his New York townhome? Answer no. Question. Did you ever visit the New Mexico ranch, Zorro Ranch in New Mexico? Answer no. Question. Did you ever visit Mr. Epstein's Paris apartment? Answer no. Question. Did you ever visit the office on 301 E. 66th St. That Mr. Epstein owned? Answer no. Question. Did you ever visit New Albany, Ohio? Answer no. Question. Did you ever visit anywhere else that was owned or managed by Mr. Epstein or his staff? Answer not that I know of. Question. Did you ever fly on any of Mr. Epstein's private aircraft? Answer no question. Mr. Epstein ever invites you to fly on his private aircraft? No. Question. Did Ms. Maxwell ever invite you to fly on Mr. Epstein's private aircraft? No Question. Did you ever fly on any of Ms. Maxwell's aircraft? I didn't know Ms. Maxwell had aircraft. She was a licensed helicopter pilot. I said Spectre. Did you ever fly on any aircraft piloted by Ms. Maxwell? Mr. Waite? I had a helicopter that she piloted, but only with another pilot on board at the same time, so I had my own helicopter. Question. Did Mr. Epstein ever fly on your private plane? Answer no. Question. Did you ever fly with Mr. Epstein on any aircraft? Answer no. Question. Were you ever approached or questioned by law enforcement of any kind in regards to Ms. Maxwell or her crimes? Answer no. Question. Were you ever approached or questioned by law enforcement of any kind in regards to Mr. Epstein and his crimes? Answer no. Ms. Mace, do you think it's odd this is an opinion. You can tell me the answer or not, but do you think that it's odd that no law enforcement apparatus made any inquiries with you at all about, you know, Epstein or Maxwell's potential involvement with Epstein because you all had a relationship for so long? Did you find that odd? Mr. Wait, that's a good question. Odd might not be the right term. I was kind of expecting and a way. Ms. Wa. Ms. Mace. Weird. Ted Wade. I wouldn't say it's weird, no. I had no direct involvement. Mace. Yeah, but just being an associate of hers, did you find it off putting at all? You know, I mean, like, I would have assumed that law enforcement would have investigated anyone, that she had any kind of relationship, business or personal or otherwise, for an extended period of time. You know what I mean? Mr. Weight? Yeah. Not familiar with law enforcement, so I don't know. Ms. Mace, I think it's weird, like there's no investigation at all. Her behavior, Mr. Weight, it would have been. I would have been happy to cooperate, Ms. Mace. Yeah. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.