
In late May 2022, Justin Welby, then the Church of England’s Archbishop of Canterbury, was asked during an interview about Prince Andrew and the public reaction to him. Welby said that “forgiveness really does matter” and that “we have become a very,...
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What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Well, the Archbishop of Canterbury has a suggestion for all of you. And that suggestion is you should be more forgiving of a scumbag like Prince Andrew because you know, we're a society that's not forgiving enough. Well, breaking news, Archbishop of Canterbury. There's no forgiveness. There's for people like Andrew and furthermore. Forgive for what? I thought he didn't do anything. I thought that Prince Andrew did nothing wrong. He never met Virginia Roberts and he was only paying this out so that the Queen's jubilee could go on as planned. I thought that was the, the line they were running to us. But now, well, we should forgive him. If he didn't do anything, what should he be forgiven for? It's all just such a joke and a clown show. The Archbishop of Canterbury. Shocking that he comes out for the royal family to defend Prince Andrew. It's absurd. How about the Archbishop of Canterbury comes out and invites the survivors to come and check out the church or donate some money to ward survivors. Instead he gets up here and tries to run this line of BS to refurbish Prince Andrew's reputation. Well, breaking news, it's not going to work. Now I'm sure amongst the royalists, everybody's feeling themselves this week. Got their little, little jubilee, you know, a little party going on. Everybody's celebrating the Queen and the royal family. Prince Andrew, smarmy ass thinks he's gonna slide in with people like this. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin well be co signing for him. They're in for a rude awakening because it's not only people who are following this case who are disgusted by Prince Andrew. I can't tell you how many people I know who have not followed the case at all but are still disgusted by what they've heard about Prince Andrew. You see, when you're a public figure and you're somebody like Prince Andrew and you're given a great amount of power and a great amount of responsibility from the time of birth. And if you don't live up to that, well, you're going to be scorned. Just look at the way we talk about princes and royals and dukes from yesteryear. And if they were scummy or they did something terrible, it's still talked about to this day. And on the flip side of that, though, if you're one of these royals who has done something incredibly awesome to help the people, which is far and few between, you're remembered for that as well. So the public is going to remember Prince Andrew for the scumbaggery that he was engaging in. Remember, nobody forced him to be with Jeffrey Epstein. Nobody forced him to hang out with gun runners or Peter Nygard. Nobody forced him to do any of that. He chose to do it on his own because he was looking to enrich himself on the dime of the people of England. That's what people should be mad about. Not that people are calling him out, not that people are saying he's a scumbag. They should be mad because they've been duped, they've been used, and Prince Andrew has treated them as if they were his own personal piggy bank. All of these lavish trips, flying around from here to there, going to golf tournaments that cost £60,000. Meanwhile, you have people in England right now, as we speak, who can't afford to pay for their power. So they're going to places like McDonald's so they don't freeze to death. It's just I don't understand how someone like Justin Welby thinks this is a good idea. But what I have seen from the. The people who run these churches, the Catholic Church, the Archbishop of Canterbury, most of these clerics, they're not worried about the. The people, they're not worried about how people's lives are going. They're worried about increasing their own wealth and increasing the status of their church. So I guess the more things change, well, the more they stay the same. All right, today's article is from the Guardian, and the author of this article is Nadeem Badshah. Headline, Archbishop of Canterbury suggests Prince Andrew wants to make amends. Well, he can start by admitting what he did wrong. How about speaking to the FBI? Just saying you want to make amends doesn't mean you really want to make amends. You have to actually do it right. And we all know that Prince Andrew is out here talking about how he's the friend of lepers, how he is the comforter of orphans, how he is here for widows. You know, he's the man of the people all of a sudden. And the Archbishop of Canterbury is totally on board. It shouldn't shock anybody considering the way these churches conduct themselves. But he wants you to know that Prince Andrew wants to make amends. I can't wait to see the emails about this one. The Archbishop of Canterbury has suggested the Duke of York is seeking to make amends as he encouraged society to be more open and forgiving in general. You know, I agree with being more forgiving, but it depends on what your sins are, right? I'm not going to be forgiving, but of rapists and child traffickers and people who cause great harm to the society and the community. Sorry, not going to happen. I'm here for people that really want to get fixed, people that really want help, people that know they made a mistake and really want to rehabilitate themselves and work towards doing that. You know the dude who goes into prison at 19 years old for drug possession or whatever and decides while he's in there, look, I'm going to change my life. I'm going to rehabilitate my life. Those are the people that should be helped, not Prince Andrew. He shouldn't have to make amends for something he didn't do, remember? And also, when you're somebody who has the status and the stature of the Prince of England, for God's sakes, you really think you should be running around with these people? Don't you think that the Archbishop of Canterbury should suggest that the Duke of York do some apologizing? But nah, it's all about you having to accept your betters back into your life because one of your other betters has told you so. Well, guess what? They can all go to hell. I don't care about the Queen's Jubilee, I don't care about the Archbishop of the Church. I don't care about the Pope. I don't care about none of them. Not one of these people is better than I am, okay? We wake up every single day, we put our pants on the same, we all have to brush our teeth, hopefully we put on, you know, put on deodorant, take a shower. They all do the same thing. What makes them better than you? Because they were born a certain, a certain way or because they're part of some weird ass Church? Yeah, no thanks. Those days are over. Most people are seeing through that these days and nobody's buying it. And furthermore, I don't think anybody's taking what the Archbishop of Canterbury has to say here seriously. Prince Andrew stepped down from public life after the Furor over his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender. And earlier this year, he paid millions to a woman he claimed never to have met to settle a civil sexual assault case. So is anyone going to ask the old Archbishop why Prince Andrew would pay money out to somebody he never even met? Is that even going to come up in the conversation? Or is the Archbishop of Canterbury going to attempt to gaslight people as the head of the Church and have people just follow along with him blindly because they trust him and think that he's doing the right thing? How many times have we seen leaders in the Church lead people astray? Time and time again, folks, I hate to say it, but it's the truth. You want to talk about snake oil salesmen, let's come down to America and take a look at some of the people that are pumping, some of the, that they're pumping. I mean, just the other day I'm sitting here watching TV and I see that commercial for the guy who's selling the, the God water. Oh, if you send me certain amount of money, we'll send you some God water and it's going to change your life. Breaking news. Nobody's sending you any God water for any amount of money. And that's basically what the Archbishop of Canterbury is up here saying. Oh, well, I'm telling you that you should forgive Prince Andrew, so you should forgive Prince Andrew. Well, guess what? I don't care what you say, I don't care what the Queen says. The answer is no. Prince Andrew is a disgusting individual who had the whole world given to him. And instead of using all of that power, all of that prestige for good, he used it to benefit himself at and on the dime of the English people. So I, I have no desire for forgiveness when it comes to Prince Andrew, especially considering he has never even admitted to what he has done wrong. So wouldn't that be the first step of forgiveness? You have to admit that you did something wrong. He was cast out of the working monarchy and no longer uses his HRH style. After Virginia Roberts, who was trafficked by Epstein, accused him of sexually assaulting her when she was 17. The Duke has denied the allegations. Well, of course he has. But if Virginia has been telling the truth about the rest of this stuff and we see that she has, obviously take a look at the convictions, well, why would she be lying about Prince Andrew? I know, I know. It's to take down the whole monarchy. Right? Lady Victoria Hervey, the reality is this, she's not lying, at least not in my opinion. And Prince Andrew, well, he's the one that's been on the back step. He's been the one who has not provided any sort of backing up of receipts to his accounting of what happened. So why would anyone believe him? And furthermore, why would anyone want to forgive him? Alright folks, let's take a quick commercial break. Justin Welby, in an interview with ITV News on Tuesday, called on people to step back a bit and said the Queen's second son was seeking to make amends, adding, I think that's a very good thing. Well, why don't you ask the survivors what they think about Prince Andrew and his quote unquote, making amends. It's all fine and well for the, the Archbishop of Canterbury to talk about, oh, this one's making amends or that one's making amends when nobody's ever wronged him. Was it his family members who were assaulted by Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, it wasn't right. Oh, so it's okay because, you know, they were just girls from the other side of the tracks, people that didn't have any money, maybe not from your uppity tuppity class. So it's okay if they were abused and we should just forgive Prince Andrew because, you know, he's a prince and all. I guess the next thing will be he'll come out, meaning the the Archbishop of Canterbury and tell us how we have to forgive Jimmy Savile as well. He stressed that he could not tell people how to respond, saying, the issues of the past in the area of abuse are so intensely personal and private for so many, and it's not surprising that there is very deep feelings indeed. So here's an idea. Shut your mouth, Worry about your stupid little celebration here and shut your stupid mouth. Golly. Talk about opening it, meaning his mouth and inserting his foot. Yeah, it's very personal and there are very deep feelings involved. How about one of these statements? If you're the Archbishop, the situation was unfortunate. The people who were hurt deserve all of the time to heal. They deserve all of the attention. And I'm not going to talk about the allegations against Prince Andrew, but no, you have to come out and try and refurbish his reputation and try and tell the people who pray in your congregation that, well, this is the way I'm going about it, so you should do the same thing. That's basically what he's saying. And the people who are bought into the Church, of course they believe that this guy speaks with the voice of God or whatever. So people are going to, you know, follow their church leaders, unfortunately. And when you have church leaders here in the UK and certainly in the United States who are up to no good, well, then the congregation is led astray. Asked how the public should respond to Andrew after his appearance at the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service in, in March, Welby, 66, said at a big public occasion, the Queen is fully entitled to have one of her children supporting her. Secondly, forgiveness really does matter. I think we have become a very, very unforgiving society. There is a difference between consequences and forgiveness. Well, he's never had any consequences, Mr. Welby, the whelpington. Not one bit of consequences yet. Oh, he had to get rid of his titles. So what? Still skulking around the palace, isn't he? Sitting around eating all that good food, riding his horse, living his best life. So how can anyone forgive if there's never even been any consequences? I guess there's people out there that might want. Want to, but certainly not me. I think for all of us, one of the ways that we celebrate when we come together is learning to be more. A more open and forgiving society. A spokesperson for the Archbishop of Canterbury later clarified that he was not referring specifically to the Duke of York when he said we must become a more forgiving society and was making a broader point about the kinds of society that he hopes the Platinum Jubilee inspires us to be. Talk about walking it back. Nice try, Mr. Welby, we all know how you feel. We all know that you probably believe that Prince Andrew and probably believe that he did nothing wrong, and that's just the reality of the upper crust. What, you don't think the Archbishop of Canterbury is part of the upper crust? You think this guy cares about you? This guy's sitting in front of the church, I mean, the cross, every night on his knees, praying for the people of England. Yeah, okay, sure. A statement from Wellbe said in tonight's interview with ITV News. I. I was asked a question about forgiveness and I said that there is a difference between consequences and forgiveness. Both are essential elements of the Christian understanding of justice, mercy and reconciliation. Not one that's this kind of crime. There's no, there's no forgiveness. Not for me anyway. Especially when there's no consequences. Go and serve your term, Go and serve your debt to society, and then maybe we'll talk about forgiveness at some point. But when you're accused of these crimes, you all know how I feel. I don't feel like you can be rehabilitated, and I don't feel like there's any kind of oh well, I'm sorry's that are going to work. I also made the broader point that I hope we can become a more forgiving society. These are complex issues that are difficult to address in a short media interview and I hope they do not distract from this week's joyful celebration of Her Majesty the Queen's Platinum Jubilee. Yeah, it is. Okay. It's going to detract from it. You make these comments on the ju on Jubilee week and then you don't think it's going to detract from the Queen celebration. Breaking news, dude. It's going to. The Archbishop is no longer delivering the sermon at the Platinum Jubilee service of Thanksgiving at St Paul's Cathedral on Friday after he tested positive for COVID 19. Stephen Cattrell, the Archbishop. The Archbishop of York will take his place. Well, isn't that nice. Hope the guy doesn't, you know, get too sick or anything from the. The old Covid, but I mean, can you be any more tone deaf? Could you not read the room? You would think that a guy who spends his whole life speaking in public and getting the temperature of his congregation would understand that the world at large is not ready for. For any kind of nonsense about forgiving Prince Andrew yet. Have you forgotten that we're about to have victim impact statements soon? So we should just forgive him right now and then get those victim impact statements and hear what Virginia has to say in court and then go back and revisit this. Sorry, not going to happen. We all know what the dude is and we all know the kind of people he was hanging out with and we all know the allegations that he was accused of and that he paid out a bunch of money to. To a girl he says he doesn't know. I think that pretty much tells the whole story, doesn't it? All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this episode. 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Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 17, 2026
In this episode, host Bobby Capucci critically analyzes comments made by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, who suggested society should be more forgiving of Prince Andrew amidst his involvement in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. Capucci takes issue with the Archbishop's remarks, scrutinizing both their message and broader implications, particularly within the context of institutional power, privilege, and justice for survivors.
"Forgive for what? I thought he didn't do anything. … But now, well, we should forgive him. If he didn't do anything, what should he be forgiven for? It's all just such a joke and a clown show." (00:40)
"How about the Archbishop of Canterbury comes out and invites the survivors to come and check out the church or donate some money toward survivors? Instead he gets up here and tries to run this line of BS to refurbish Prince Andrew's reputation." (01:05)
"I can't tell you how many people I know who have not followed the case at all but are still disgusted by what they've heard about Prince Andrew." (01:30)
"Most of these clerics, they're not worried about the people ... they're worried about increasing their own wealth and increasing the status of their church." (02:55)
"Those days are over. Most people are seeing through that these days and nobody's buying it." (04:00)
"So is anyone going to ask the old Archbishop why Prince Andrew would pay money out to somebody he never even met? … Or is the Archbishop of Canterbury going to attempt to gaslight people…?" (04:38)
"Forgiveness really does matter. I think we have become a very, very unforgiving society. There is a difference between consequences and forgiveness. Well, he's never had any consequences, Mr. Welby … Not one bit of consequences yet." (08:45)
"How about one of these statements? If you're the Archbishop, the situation was unfortunate. The people who were hurt deserve all of the time to heal. They deserve all of the attention." (07:40)
"So people are going to, you know, follow their church leaders, unfortunately. And when you have church leaders here in the UK and certainly in the United States who are up to no good, well, then the congregation is led astray." (07:55)
"A spokesperson for the Archbishop of Canterbury later clarified that he was not referring specifically to the Duke of York… Talk about walking it back." (10:10)
On the Archbishop’s stance:
"Forgive for what? I thought he didn't do anything… But now, well, we should forgive him. If he didn't do anything, what should he be forgiven for? It's all just such a joke and a clown show." (00:40 - Bobby Capucci)
On emptiness of institutional apologies:
"How about the Archbishop of Canterbury comes out and invites the survivors to come and check out the church… Instead he gets up here and tries to run this line of BS to refurbish Prince Andrew's reputation." (01:05 - Bobby Capucci)
On privilege and accountability:
"Prince Andrew is a disgusting individual who had the whole world given to him… And instead of using all of that power… for good, he used it to benefit himself… So I have no desire for forgiveness when it comes to Prince Andrew, especially considering he has never even admitted to what he has done wrong." (05:12)
On demands for forgiveness:
"So people are going to, you know, follow their church leaders, unfortunately. And when you have church leaders… who are up to no good, well, then the congregation is led astray." (07:55)
On the walk-back from Welby’s office:
"A spokesperson for the Archbishop of Canterbury later clarified that he was not referring specifically to the Duke of York when he said we must become a more forgiving society… Talk about walking it back." (10:10)
Capucci’s tone throughout is caustic, passionate, and unapologetically skeptical about both royal and religious elites. He underscores society's rising demand for accountability and the hollowness of calls for forgiveness absent truth or real change. Listeners are left with a sense that public patience for self-serving apologies and PR maneuvers—whether from Buckingham Palace or the Church—is running out.