
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick testified behind closed doors before the House Oversight Committee about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, where lawmakers pressed him over inconsistencies between his past public statements and newly released...
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Yes, you can. A five minute quick and easy calorie burning workout. Give it a try. Come join our sweat sesh on TikTok. What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Last week, Howard Lutnick gave his testimony to Congress about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And according to certain members of Congress, Mr. Lutnick was evasive and wasn't telling the whole truth. And at the time I told you that we didn't have the transcript. So I wasn't willing to jump down that rabbit hole just yet until we had a chance to take a look at the transcript for ourselves. And, well, we've had a look and in my opinion, old Howie boy was playing pretty loose with the truth. And after we dive into this article, we're going to dive into that deposition and all of you can decide for yourselves what you think. Alright, so before we get there, why don't we dive into this article from CBS News and see what they had to say about Lutnick and the testimony headline, Lutnick testified he knew little about Epstein, his next door neighbor. This article was authored by Graham Cates. And I have a hard time believing that from the very beginning I said that you're a neighbor of this guy. All these people are always over there, people are moving in and out. And we know that Lutnick had his own, you know, security system. Right? You mean to tell me he didn't have his own camera system? Okay, sure. Did the FBI ever get that from him? I'm not saying that Howard Lutnick was involved with abusing anybody, but I think he knows a lot more than he's ever let on. And I think that's the truth. For the vast majority of people that have been caught up in this fallout, the vast majority of people that we're talking about, at least as far as the evidence has shown us so far, weren't involved in the actual abuse. That was a handful of people. Leon Black, allegedly. Les Wexner, allegedly. Mark Dubin, allegedly. Jean Luc Bernell, for sure. Prince Andrew. Okay, allegedly. But you know, then of course you have people like Marvin Minsky, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell. These are all people that have been accused credibly and nothing's come of it. So for all the people out there that are talking about, oh, names, names, names, why don't you do something with the names you have? I think that would be the proper place to start and then we can talk about other people if you want, you know, the Sarah Kellen Vickers of the world, the Adriana Rosses of the world, the Leslie Groffs of the world, the Darren Endykes of the world. And that's what I mean when I tell you that there's layers to this. And while not everybody was guilty of the abuse itself, all these people that were around them, all these people that spend time with them, they're all guilty of enabling him. And while that might or might not be criminal, depending on what they did, it should be socially unacceptable. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said he was unaware for years that his next door neighbor, Jeffrey Epstein, was a registered sex offender, according to a transcript of testimony released Wednesday by the House Oversight Committee. And wait until you guys get a look at this. It's laughable at best. And honestly, I didn't expect any different from Howard Lutnick. I mean, real talk, does the guy have an honest bone in his body? I don't think he does. I honestly do not think he does. Lutnick also described a crude remark Epstein once made about getting the right kind of massage. He said it to me and my wife is standing right next to me and we looked at each other and we left, lutnick said. And it would be one thing if that was the whole story. It's not. You were so disgusted that you decided to go to his island, you decided to get into business with him. Does that sound like somebody who's disgusted to you? Because it sure doesn't to me. What it sounds like is a guy who got caught. That's what it sounds like. Lutnick recounted the conversation as he voluntarily testified before the committee. Behind closed doors on May 6, he faced questions about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his evolving statements about their history. Well, that's a nice way to say his lies, right? His evolving statements about their history. Let's just call it what it is, an absolute lie. Because that's what Ludnick's been doing, lying about his history and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. That day, Democrats on the committee accused Lutnick of being evasive, saying he made a farce of the English language in order to mislead the public and calling on him to resign over his changing accounts of his interactions with the late sex offender. Well, those are the allegations that were made by the Democrats. Right. So when we go through the transcript, you're going to have the chance to judge for yourself if they were lying or if they were telling the truth about their interactions with Lnick. And I think it's important that we hold everybody accountable. It doesn't matter if it's Thomas Massie, if it's Ro Khanna or anybody else. And it's super important that this is done in a nonpartisan, non biased way. I know that's very difficult considering, you know, the circumstances and the current environment. But we have to strive for that. Don't we have enough arguments as it is, partisan arguments in other areas? We can't even come together to say that people that are molesting kids and committing all kinds of crazy financial crimes and immigration fraud should be investigated. I would think that that would be universal, but of course not. And that, too is by design. The last thing they want is the pitchforks and the torches coming together. They don't want that. They have to have you fighting. They want you occupied with this tribalism. And while you're occupied with the tribalism, they're robbing you blind. And the crazy part is you have people out here showing up like Oliver Twist with a bowl, asking for some more. But GOP Representative James Comer, the House Oversight Committee's chairman, said Democrats were twisting Lutnick's words and had come into the interview to push a narrative to damage President Trump. I'm sure they did. Let's be very clear. That is their goal. And if you think I trust the Democrats to handle this, you're crazy. And frankly, I look at the Democrats as a tool. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. These Democrats, if they're pushing the right narrative and they're pushing for transparency, great. But if any of them think they're not going to be held accountable, they got another thing coming, too. Because when it comes to this investigation, this cover up, there are no sacred cows. Anybody involved and everybody involved needs to be exposed. It's never about holding people accountable that should have been prosecuted or prosecuted Epstein years ago. It's always about Donald Trump. Comer told reporters on May 6th. Well, look, that's part of the trap. And there's people out there that cried, oh, well, what do you mean it's a trap? What, you don't want to talk about Trump? No, I didn't say that, but it's a trap. You have to understand who you're dealing with and just how far these people are willing to go to make sure this never comes out. And that's why focusing only on Trump is part of the trap, because Trump is just a part of the story. This is deeper and bigger than Donald Trump. As I've told you for years, it's much larger than any single politician. This strikes directly to the heart of the system itself and the International order, not just America, internationally. And while Trump is certainly a big part of the conversation now, of course, especially with this ongoing cover up, he is not the only part of the story. And when people only focus on him, you're providing these ghouls like Anna Paulina Luna with the ammunition they need to try and frame this as a hoax. And you're not going to take Donald Trump down being ham handed. You're going to have to match him and you're going to have to be as devious, you're going to have to be as wily, and you're going to have to be able and willing to go down corridors other people won't go. And that means getting creative. You can't be ham handed. How's that worked out? How did Russia get work out? How have all these other traps that have been set work out? Not very good, right? So when I tell you to focus on the COVID up, that's what I mean. Focus on the COVID up. Because if you want real action, you want real justice, that's the way to get there. Because if you expose the COVID up, they were obviously covering up for somebody, right? So that'll be exposed too. So if Donald Trump and his administration is playing 4D chess, you have to play 5D chess. And that's the point I've been trying to slam home with when it comes to focusing so much on Donald Trump. The files revealed that Epstein and Lutnick were in business together as recently as 2014, investing simultaneously in a now shuttered advertising company called Admin. Lutnick said during the deposition that he was unaware of Epstein as an investor in the company. Lutnick has for years insisted he had little relationship with Epstein, who was his neighbor in New York City, but is more recently acknowledged visiting Epstein's private island with his family in 2012 after the files documenting the trip were made public. Well, it's easy to admit it after you've been outed. How about having the courage to come forward previously? Why didn't you come forward during the first investigation? Yeah, I know Epstein. I was on his island. Can I help out? Anything I can do for the women. But of course not. Right? Kept quiet and hoped it would all go away. Lutnick for years insisted he had little relationship with Epstein, who was his neighbor in New York City, but has more recently acknowledged visiting Epstein's private island with his family. In 2012, after the files documenting the trip were made public, Lutnick, his wife Allison and their children visited Little St. James Epstein's Caribbean island, not long before Epstein and Lutnick invested in Adfin. An undated photo from the files show Epstein and Lutnick among a group of men on the island. But don't worry. His wife, his kids, and all of his nannies came home, whatever that means. Lutnick, the former chairman of the financial services firm Canor Fitzgerald, has previously said he cut ties with Epstein in 2005, three years before Epstein entered a guilty plea to state prostitution charges in Florida. Lutnick told the committee he purchased the property next to Epstein's home on New York's Upper east side in 1997, but didn't move until after renovations were complete in 2005. Lutnick said he met Epstein just three times, including his family's visit to the island. Oh, yeah, three times. Is it right next door? Three times. Look, I'm not exactly Mr. Pleasant, but I know my neighbors. During the 2005 visit, a coffee and tour of Epstein's townhouse that Lutnick said his wife also joined. He said that he turned. He was turned off by a crude comment related to a massage table in the home. And he concluded he didn't want a relationship with Epstein. He also described one other meeting. A discussion about Epstein's foyer. Oh, yeah, let's talk about the foyer. That's what rich people talk about, right? Lutnick was the latest in a parade of powerful people to testify for the committee after their names or pictures appeared in more than 3 million pages of records known as the Epstein files. Others who testified include the executors of Epstein's estate, as well as former President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and billionaire businessman Les Wexner. They have not been accused of wrongdoing and denied any knowledge of Epstein's abuses. Former Attorney General Pam Bondi has agreed to testify before the panel later this month. And I expect that to be a banger. No, I can only imagine what Pam Bondi is going to have to say. Unfortunately, it's closed door. That should be open door. We should hear every last thing that Pam Bondi has to say about Jeffrey Epstein. Unfortunately, we won't, but we should. And as far as Lutnick goes, well, you're gonna get to judge for yourself very soon what you think about the transcript. And if Howard Lutnick has been telling us the truth or just BSing us. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
Episode Title: The House Oversight Committee Releases The Howard Lutnick Deposition Transcript (5/14/26)
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 14, 2026
In this episode, Bobby Capucci dives into the latest developments regarding Howard Lutnick’s congressional testimony about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. The episode critically examines Lutnick's statements to the House Oversight Committee, explores the media coverage, and places this testimony within the broader context of the Epstein case. Bobby emphasizes the patterns of denial and evasiveness that permeate the stories of elite Epstein associates and urges listeners to focus on systemic cover-up rather than partisan point-scoring.
“You’re a neighbor of this guy. All these people are always over there, people are moving in and out… You mean to tell me he didn’t have his own camera system? Okay, sure.” (02:10)
“While not everybody was guilty of the abuse itself, all these people that were around them, all these people that spend time with them, they’re all guilty of enabling him.” (04:05)
“You were so disgusted that you decided to go to his island, you decided to get into business with him. Does that sound like somebody who’s disgusted to you? Because it sure doesn’t to me.” (06:15)
“When it comes to this investigation, this cover up, there are no sacred cows. Anybody involved and everybody involved needs to be exposed.” (09:10)
“This is deeper and bigger than Donald Trump. As I’ve told you for years, it’s much larger than any single politician. This strikes directly to the heart of the system itself and the International order…” (11:40)
“It’s easy to admit it after you’ve been outed. How about having the courage to come forward previously?” (14:05)
“Look, I’m not exactly Mr. Pleasant, but I know my neighbors.” (16:40)
“They have to have you fighting. They want you occupied with this tribalism. And while you’re occupied with the tribalism, they’re robbing you blind.” (10:32)
“If you expose the cover-up, they were obviously covering up for somebody, right? So that'll be exposed too.” (13:29)
The tone is skeptical, direct, and at times sarcastic—Bobby pulls no punches in questioning the plausibility of elite denials and the motivations of political actors.
The episode ends with an encouragement for listeners to review Lutnick’s transcript themselves, promising further exposure and analysis in future episodes.
“You’re gonna get to judge for yourself very soon what you think about the transcript. And if Howard Lutnick has been telling us the truth or just BSing us.” (24:15)
The Epstein Chronicles continues its mission to peel back the layers on the Epstein saga, exposing the mechanisms of denial, enabling, and cover-up that sustain such scandals at the highest levels.