
Pam Bondi’s congressional transcript showed her trying to defend the Justice Department’s handling of the Epstein files while repeatedly distancing herself from the day-to-day mechanics of the review. She told House Oversight lawmakers that Todd...
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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in to the transcript from Pam Bondi and her visit to Congress. Question Emmer the joint statement also said neither the DOJ nor the FBI uncovered evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. What process did the Department of Justice undergo to determine there was no evidence to investigate any third parties? Bondi I believe the FBI thoroughly reviewed all the documents in its possession to make that determination. They are the investigative agency. Emmer huh. During the time when this statement was issued, you've mentioned that Blanche was heavily involved. Were you ever briefed on individuals of concern related to Epstein or Maxwell? Bondi I don't recall other than they were scouring through the documents and I believe there were multiple videos as well. Question as far as this initial review, did the Department of Justice conduct any interview or or meeting with any individual in its efforts to determine whether further investigation was necessary? Bondi can you repeat that? Emmer as part of its review that informed the July 7 joint statement, did the Department of Justice interview any individuals outside the DOJ to inform its conclusion? Bondi I believe the FBI did, but that's a question for Director Patel. Emmer On July 24 and July 25 of 2025, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche interviewed Glenn Maxwell and the DOJ released the transcript a month later. Attorney General Bondi why did the Department of Justice conduct this interview? Bondi I believe Deputy Attorney General now Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche has said on several occasions that Epstein by that time was dead and no one had taken had made an effort to interview Ghislaine Maxwell to see if she had evidence of co conspirators and other crimes and that's why he interviewed her. Question Are you aware of whether Maxwell reached out to the Department of Justice to request this interview? Answer by Bondi I don't recall how it was initiated. Emmer so would it be safe to assume that you had no role in the determination that then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche would perform the interview? Answer oh I knew that Todd was going to interview her. Yes. I believe, I don't believe who initiated it. If she reached out to us. I believe, I don't want to speculate, but I believe that Deputy Attorney General Blanche at the time reached out to them because there was someone still living in prison who had potential information about other co conspirators and crimes questioned by Emmer Were there any concerns at the DOJ about conducting the interview with Glenn Maxwell? No, not to my knowledge. Emmer and based on Maxwell's testimony to Todd Blanche, did the Department of Justice take any subsequent action that were informed by the testimony? Answer by Bondi I don't believe so. Now Mr. Grant jumps in and do you know why or how it became that the Deputy Attorney General Blanche would be the one to take the interview with of Ms. Maxwell? Bondi he was leading the Epstein matter and the release of everything from the beginning. Deputy Attorney General now Acting US Attorney Blanche was Emmer Maxwell's attorney. Stated publicly that Maxwell had provided the names of a hundred different people connected to Jeffrey Epstein in the course of her two day interview. Did the Department of Justice investigate any of the individuals named in Maxwell's testimony? Bondi and I believe that entire transcript has been released and the FBI would have looked into that. That was the purpose of taking the statement question. As far as the transcript itself and what has been released publicly, how did the Department of Justice determine which individuals would be redacted from the transcript? Bondi Deputy Attorney General Blanche made that determination based on the law and what privileges would apply. Do you know what type of individual names were redacted in the Maxwell transcript? Bondi I don't recall. Are you aware of whether there were any redaction errors in the transcript? I don't recall. Ultimately of course there were millions of documents released, so I don't recall regarding the transcript. But if there were, I do believe Deputy Attorney General Blanche, now Acting AG Blanche did everything to be sure we had complete transparency under the law. Question following the interview, Glenn Maxwell was moved by the Bureau of Prisons from a maximum security prison in Florida to a low security federal prison in Texas on August 1, 2025. Why was that? Bondi I read about that in the newspaper or online after it happened. I had nothing to do with that. I don't want to speculate, but I believe it was for security reasons. You'd have to ask the Bureau of Prisons that question would then Deputy Attorney General Blanche know the answer to that question? BONDI he may, and I'm not sure if he's addressed it publicly, probably, but transferring a prisoner is the decision of the Bureau of Prisons. Question to be clear and to your knowledge, do you know if her transfer had anything to do with with her participating in the interview with Todd? Blanche BONDI I have no knowledge of that. Again, I found out about it after the transfer when it became public. Question Attorney General Bondi, do you believe that Glenn Maxwell should receive a pardon? BONDI no, I believe that she should die in prison. Question why? Answer she was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein. She recruited these young women to a life of prostitution and abuse. And I often think that the women that do that are just as bad, if not worse than the men, because she participated in it. Mr. Grant's asking questions again. On August 22, 2025, this committee issued a subpoena to the Department of Justice for documents pertaining to the Epstein matter. The DOJ subsequently produced approximately 33,000 documents to the committee. In this production, the DOJ indicated that multiple responsive records are must also be withheld or redacted as required by applicable law, including certain grand jury material and documents containing personally identifiable information. Are you aware, Attorney General Bondi, how the DOJ initially gathered or collected necessary documents under this committee subpoena? ANSWER no. And that task, I believe, was 33,000 pages was delegated to Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward. He handled that batch of releases. Excuse me. Question and so it would be Mr. Woodward that would know more about the process to determine which documents fell under that subpoena? Yes. Were you ever briefed on the documents underneath that subpoena, maybe briefly after they were released. Our goal was to get as much out publicly that was legally permissible as fast as we could. And would that redaction process for those documents be similar to what the Department of Justice was already doing as far as making sure no personal information was getting out there because it was required by law? Answer yeah, and I believe that Stanley Woodward was the one again who supervised that release. Question and in this matter, who at the Department of Justice would have been actually doing those redactions? Staff attorneys, other attorneys at Main justice, someone else? I believe it was attorneys, multiple attorneys at the Department of Justice, even some, again, from the National Security Division. And again, ultimately attorneys from all over the country were pulled in to help once we received the millions of pages of documents. But initially we did have attorneys from within the Department of Justice and the FBI, I believe, working on those redactions Question and are you aware of attorneys at the Department of Justice having to undergo any type of training as far as redactions go, I believe they did and that would have been supervised by Todd Blanche. Was there any criteria for which attorneys get selected to do redactions that you're aware of? Bondi I recall we used attorneys from the National Security Division as much as we could because they have top security clearance and the goal was to protect the victims identities. Question and are you aware of why the DOJ only produced 33,000 documents pursuant to the committee subpoena? I believe because that was all they had at the time and we would have had to ask Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward that question. Yes you can. A five minute quick and easy calorie burning workout. Give it a try. Come join our sweat sesh on TikTok.
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Now Mr. Emmer is asking questions once again. Let's talk about the Epstein Files Transparency Act. And for the record, the EFTA was signed into law November 19th of 2025 requiring you, the Attorney General at the time, to release all documents related to the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein within 30 days and making them publicly available in a searchable format. What was your role in carrying out the Epstein Files Transparency Act? Answer Todd Blanche supervised that entire process. To back up for a minute, though, the office did ask for those files prior to the Transparency act be unsealed by the courts in multiple jurisdictions. I believe it was SDFL and SDNY and those requests were denied and it was not until the Transparency act that we were able to receive those documents. Questions so there were existing efforts to release documents Prior to the Epstein Files Transparency Act? Yes. So what was your response to the Epstein Files Transparency act being passed? Bondi we were able to receive many more documents based on the act. We were able to unseal the grand jury. We made a motion to unseal the grand jury documents in Epstein and Maxwell and that also included the Epstein when he died. Excuse me, that also included when Epstein died in prison. It included, I believe a prison guard case somewhere, Epstein cases in both jurisdictions and Maxwell's cases. And you said the effort was directed by Todd Blanche, is that correct? Yes. How frequently did you meet with Todd Blanche after the Epstein Files Transparency act was passed? I spoke with Deputy Attorney General practically every day about countless issues around not only the country but but the world that we were dealing with. As to details on it, I don't know. I don't recall how often question in relation to EFTA and the Department's obligation thereunder, what concern was or did Todd Blanche expressed concerns as far as releasing documents? What was he saying? And to this Harmeet Dhillon jumps in. I'm just going to point out that you can answer that. To the extent that it doesn't reveal protected communication. Bondi I can say I believe everyone was concerned about protecting victim identity given the 6 million pages of documents that was received and only a 30 day timeline to comply with the process. Mr. Emmer and we're gonna talk more in detail about what was produced. But to start, how did Department of Justice initially gather or collect necessary documents or material that complied with the Epstein File Transparency Act? Bondi, can you repeat that? How did the Department of Justice initially gather or collect the necessary documents or material that complied with the Epstein File Transparency Act? Well, as I stated earlier, the Department made motions to unseal things that were previously withheld from the US by the courts and requested everything we possibly could. Which is why there was an over collection in documents as well as from the jurisdictions. And again, that included the death of Epstein, Glenn Maxwell's case, both of all of Epstein's cases in the multiple jurisdictions. Question to the best of your knowledge, what was the process to determine which documents and material fell under the Epstein File Transparency Act? I believe we collected everything possible out there related to Epstein, which is why there was such an over collection as well. Question and again then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch was overseeing the efforts, is that right? Answer yes. Todd Blanche oversaw the entire investigation and he has made multiple statements and done multiple interviews regarding that. All right folks, we're going to wrap up right here and in the next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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Host: Bobby Capucci
Episode Date: June 6, 2026
In this episode, Bobby Capucci continues his deep dive into the congressional testimony and oversight hearing involving former Attorney General Pam Bondi regarding the Department of Justice’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case after his death and Ghislaine Maxwell’s conviction. This segment focuses on newly released documents, DOJ investigative processes, and the implementation of the landmark Epstein Files Transparency Act. Throughout, Bondi fields pointed, sometimes contentious questions from members of Congress regarding transparency, prosecutorial decisions, and Maxwell’s cooperation.
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“No, I believe that she should die in prison. … She was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein. She recruited these young women to a life of prostitution and abuse. And I often think that the women that do that are just as bad, if not worse than the men, because she participated in it.”
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On the seriousness of Maxwell’s crimes:
“She was a monster, just like Jeffrey Epstein. She recruited these young women to a life of prostitution and abuse. And I often think that the women that do that are just as bad, if not worse than the men, because she participated in it.”
— Pam Bondi (07:15)
On transparency and challenges of the EFTA:
“I believe everyone was concerned about protecting victim identity given the 6 million pages of documents that was received and only a 30 day timeline to comply with the process.”
— Pam Bondi (12:55)
Regarding DOJ’s efforts to unseal documents pre-EFTA:
“The office did ask for those files prior to the Transparency act [to] be unsealed by the courts in multiple jurisdictions. … It was not until the Transparency Act that we were able to receive those documents.”
— Pam Bondi (11:10)
Bobby Capucci maintains a probing, relentless tone in line with his mission to scrutinize all aspects of the Epstein case. Pam Bondi’s testimony is direct, sometimes blunt, emphasizing transparency and legal propriety while underlining the gravity of Maxwell and Epstein’s crimes. The congressional questioning is precise, with a strong focus on process and accountability.
This episode gives listeners rare insight into the bureaucratic and legal hurdles involved in releasing years of secret Epstein files, the controversial interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, and the wider push for transparency in one of the most notorious criminal cases of recent memory. Stay tuned for the next installment for further breakdowns and new revelations.