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The Pam Bondi Congressional Oversight Committee Epstein Related Transcript (Part 9) (6/7/26)
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Pam Bondi’s congressional transcript showed her trying to defend the Justice Department’s handling of the Epstein files while repeatedly distancing herself from the day-to-day mechanics of the review. She told House Oversight lawmakers that Todd...
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Attorney General Pam Bondi
And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off with Pam Bondi and her interview with Congress. Question All right, Ms. Bondi, we've got about maybe three minutes left in the round. I'm going to just try to efficiently hit a few straggling questions and then we'll take a break. Just one question. Globally Mr. Blanche previously represented President Trump in a personal capacity. To your knowledge, did anyone at the Department of Justice ever Express concern about Mr. Blanche's management of the Epstein files process, given his previous personal representation of the President? Dylan, you can answer that. To the extent that it doesn't reveal internal deliberation of the Department of Justice, I believe Attorney General Blanche follows all ethics rules. He's highly ethical and followed the rules of ethics. Ms. Maxwell has reportedly received preferential treatment at her new prison, special privileges in terms of meetings, private meals, a puppy. Do you have any understanding of why Ms. Maxwell is receiving those perks? I was not aware of that until I read it yesterday somewhere. Which would you tend to think that those perks are warranted, given the gravity of her crimes? I would direct that to the Bureau of Prisons, including its accuracy with respect to the committee subpoena. I think you used a phrase the committee can have what they're legally entitled to. I think the President has previously used that same phrase publicly. You know, what's your understanding of the scope of that? Because I think from our point of view essentially all 3 million pages of of EFTA would certainly be covered by the subpoena. And I think probably more than that because the terms aren't exactly the same. What's your understanding of what this committee is legally entitled to pursuant to its subpoena? To be able to review an unredacted version of all the documents, which is what is in the reading room, including, I believe, the duplicative material as well, for you to review. And that's why the reading room was set up with with unredacted material. Question to your recollection, at least during your time as Attorney General, was the reading room EFTA process viewed by the Department as a fulfillment of the committee subpoena? Answer can you repeat the question? Question yeah. The reading room at DOJ to your recollection, when you were in office, was the reading room a completion of the Department's obligation under the committee subpoena? Answer to my knowledge, an everyone was doing everything they could to comply with the committee's subpoena. Question okay, and one last question before we go off the record. You've mentioned Mr. Clayton's investigation in the Southern District of New York. I think in the build up to that, there was some public back and forth. President Trump posted on Truth Social that he was asking the Department to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, JPMorgan Chase. And now this is a, quote, many other people and institutions. You have already described your understanding of the investigation. I won't ask you again. Do you have an understanding of who the many other people and institutions are that the President was referring to? No, but I do now recall that I did respond to that and that's how it became public that Jay Clayton was assigned and looking into that, yes, totally agree, but you don't have a personal understanding of of who those other people and institutions were? Answer no question. Do you have any sense of why the only individuals included on the President's list were Democrats, despite the fact that prominent Republicans also appear in the Epstein files? Answer no question okay, thank you. And with that we can go off the record. Mr. Emmer, we'll go back on the record. I understand the witness would like to make a clarification. Bondi I was asked by one of the members of Congress, I believe, Congressman Frost, whether I directed the President's name to be reviewed to see if his name was in the documents. I don't believe. I know. I did not direct anyone's name to be reviewed to see if it was in there. But it was done because I remember now, I don't know the time frame though, but I remember being aware, of course that his name was in it along with hundreds or countless, countless other individuals. And I think the list ultimately came out as well involving high profile individuals. So I'm aware that his name was searched, but that was among many, many names that the department searched. I said hundreds. I'm not sure if it's hundreds, but many, many high profile names. And in fact that list was ultimately released. So I was aware of that, but I did not direct it. Mr. Emmer, thank you. I would like to pick up where we left off. During the majority's first hour, we were discussing redactions, the department's practices and as it relates to those redactions. And I want to discuss it's been reported that there were several documents that were produced pursuant to the Epstein Files Transparency act that were on the online interface on DOJ's website that were subsequently removed. Are you aware of documents being removed? Yes. I believe there were errors where the victims names were inadvertently released that shouldn't have been and those were removed and the names or information regarding individuals was redacted that should have been released and upon learning that the Department of Justice redacted and corrected both measures. Question Are you aware of any documents that were removed that were not subsequently produced in their redacted form? Answer not to my knowledge, unless you want to refresh my memory, but not to my knowledge. Questions starting on February 5, 2026, the DOJ allowed members of Congress to go and review the unredacted versions of the Epstein files. I believe that you were asked during the previous hour, but you can elaborate on what the process was in place to allow members of Congress to review unredacted documents at the Department of Justice? It's laid out, I believe it was put in writing the hours that they could go in, what they could see which was unredacted. But there was a process, but I don't have all the details in front of me. Were there any restrictions placed on members of Congress as far as what they could review? Not as what they could review, no. And again, even the duplicative material was included in there to my knowledge. When you and then a Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche appeared before this committee as part of the briefing that you provided in March, I believe you suggested and invited members of Congress that were present to come meet with you and Blanche personally, is that right? Yes. How many members on our committee took you up on that offer? Answer Initially I believe almost all the members were here. Oh, I'm sorry, you mean here when we came to gets cut off by Emmer. How many members that you invited pursuant to the briefing that you were at? How many members actually took you up on that offer? Answer. You mean come to our office? Question. Correct Answer. I don't believe any did. Question. And Bondi cuts him off. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Some. I'm sorry, Some of the Republican members did. Yes. Representative Boebert Cloud and Perry. Maybe Representative Burchett maybe. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yes. 3. I was thinking on the Democrat side. No Democrats took us up on that. I did meet at one point, but she's not on the committee. Representative Jayapel Emmer Question. And to be clear, no Democrats on the committee took you up on that offer. No. Okay, cool. How many Republicans showed up to talk to Les Wexner? Like, come on, stop with the games. This is bullshit.
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Attorney General Pam Bondi
Question and during that briefing gets cut off by Bondi? To my knowledge, no. To meet with anyone in my office, but not with me. Question. Thank you. And during the briefing in March, did any Democrat ask you substantive questions as to relating to the Epstein and Maxwell matter answer the briefing that we had here in Congress? No. In fact, one of them yelled that they were mad at the C span wasn't there and they got up and left. As Deputy Attorney General Blanche and I continue to brief you, I believe it was for an hour and a half and Answer your questions? Yeah. About the Dow. This lady's unbelievable. And I mean that literally and figuratively. Question And a couple questions. Do you have any knowledge as to why the Biden administration did. Did not release any files related to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell? No, I don't have any knowledge on that, nor do I have any knowledge whether any of these members of Congress asked that they be released during the Biden administration. My understanding is none of them did, to my knowledge. Maybe Representative Khanna. That is such a weak ass. Out. So because the last team didn't do a good job, we're not going to do a good job either. Attorney General Bondi, given the number of times you testified on the subject and that you are no longer involved in DOJ matters, is there anything that you have not been asked today or any other setting that you believe is relevant to this committee's investigation? Answer no. Chairman Comer. Madam Attorney General, thank you for being here today. You've answered questions going back to the briefing that we had. You've answered four hours worth of questions, been responsive from our requests. So we want to thank you for that. And I think that concludes the majority's questions. So thank you again for being here and answering our questions. Bondi. Thank you, Comer. That concludes the majority's questions. Emmer, we can go off record. Okay, so we're back on the record. Ms. Bondi, I understand you have a clarification you'd like to make. Yeah. Regarding the documents in the reading room, when I said all 6 million were available, I know I said the duplicative ones were, but I want to clarify, and I was just informed of this, that the unresponsive documents that have nothing to do with the case are not in the reading room, nor is anything that contains privileged material. So if I could clarify that. And then one more point. Is Representative Garcia outside saying that I quote through Todd, I'm placing the blame on Todd Blanche? That is 100% incorrect. Todd Blanche is one of the most highly ethical individuals I know, and I think he is making an incredible acting Attorney General and he managed this investigation. It was a Herculean task with very little error. And Todd did an excellent job, in my opinion, and is doing an excellent job as Attorney General. I'm not blaming anything on Todd, but you are. We just read the transcript ourselves. Thank you for the clarification, Bondi. Thank you. I will also clarify from the transcript that Congresswoman Lee was present at the previous round, although we neglected to announce her at the time. Question alright. Ms. Bondi, I would like to ask you a few questions about the Epstein Files Transparency act, which has already been discussed to some degree today. As you know, on November 19th of last year, President Trump signed EFTA, and that's what we'll call it, EFTA into law. Just starting with a few questions about the law's passage. It was publicly reported that the week before the bill passed here in Congress, President Trump met with Congressman Lauren Boebert in the White House Situation Room in an attempt to convince her to vote against the bill. Were you present at that meeting? I was present at the meeting. President Trump was not present at the meeting. That's very helpful, thank you. What's your recollection of who was present at the meeting? Myself, Deputy Attorney General Blanche, Legal affairs, which would be James Blair and James Braid, I believe. Kash Patel. Perhaps we'd have to ask Representative Boebert. Question. I understand. Thank you. The public reporting has characterized the meeting as an effort to persuade Ms. Boebert to vote against the bill. Is that your recollection of the meeting? I recall the discussion with her was the concern about passing the bill would jeopardize the identity of victims, which is exactly what ended up happening. After the bill was passed, victims names were inadvertently released. I recall the topic being protecting victims. And there may have been a couple more individuals in the meeting. I'm sorry, I can't recall. We can ask Representative Boebert for her recollection. Question. Thank you. Answer. But President Trump was not at the meeting. Question. Got it. Do you recall any concerns being discussed in that meeting beyond Survivor Identity? Answer. Survivor identity. That's a good way of putting it. Survivor identity. Victim's identity was the only thing that I recall at this time. But we can ask Representative Boebert. Question. It was publicly reported that at least one of the members may have been pressured by the administration to vote against the act. Do you recall or are you aware of a similar meeting to the one we talked about? No, not to my knowledge. Thank you. I don't recall. You don't recall, you're not aware of such a meeting either way, is that right? Yes. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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