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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 10) (6/14/26)
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Sarah Kellen told Congress that she was not a willing architect of Jeffrey Epstein’s operation but one of his victims, claiming Epstein groomed, abused, isolated, and controlled her for years. She described herself as trapped inside his world through...
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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we left off with the Sarah Kellen conversation with Congress. Mr. Timmons. So pre 2007, hundreds of people have been identified as victims, many of them underage. Somewhere between sex assault, solicitation, whatnot. He went to jail substantially for that. Afterwards, it seems that he did not pursue underage women, but he created a cult like environment for a dozen women. You've been named as a victim and you've received compensation from the estate and from many other legal settlements. Is that fair? From the estate in a class action suit, Timmons okay, the purpose of this endeavor, which I'm sure is very unpleasant to be a part of, is to try to find additional culpable individuals so hold them accountable. To give the American people the trust that we're taking this matter very seriously and to make sure it doesn't happen again. So you have given us a new name that I did not have before, which is the man that later became the mayor and ran for governor and is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So we got a new name of somebody that we can pursue accountability with. I think a lot of people think that the lawyer and the accountant are also culpable. Do you believe that the lawyer and accountant, Conan Endyk, have culpability related to the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein was being prosecuted for and that Glenn Maxwell is currently serving 20 years in prison for? Do you believe that they have some responsibility for facilitating those for allowing those to happen. Kellen I don't know exactly what they would have known or not known. I feel like Darren would be mostly the one to be aware of kind of all the inner workings because. Because he kind of, like, had his hands in all things legal. He was kind of involved in all the civil suits and hiring attorneys for me. Timmons. Was there a black bag of cash when you were in his orbit at the time? Kellen Jeffrey traveled with a black bag, kind of like his briefcase. Timmons did he pay people out of the bag in cash? Ham. If it doesn't implicate victims, you can answer to the extent it doesn't implicate victims. Kellan I don't know what all he used for cash. Timmins. You don't have to answer. That's fine. Kellen yeah. Timmins did you ever witness. Were there other powerful people that were in your orbit that you had witness with that were in a situation that caused you to question their presence around Epstein? Did people come to the island and leave with someone and come back? I mean, you can only say what you've seen, but you've seen other women that possibly would be victims having encounters with people of power, of influence. Have you seen anything like that? Kellen's I did not. Timmons okay. Have you considered suing or pursuing criminal charges against the former mayor of Miami that you say sexually assaulted you? Kellen no. Timmons he'll probably write you a check. Go ahead. Burleson. In your deposition, you said that being in Epstein's orbit, that you were in a situation where you even feared for your life, or that you thought that you knew that every time everything would end, everything you knew in the world, even your life later, you said that there were two FBI agents that kind of validated Jeffrey's claim. They were not validating it. When you witnessed his interaction with those agents in your mind, was validation of his claim or the appearance that he could control any law enforcement agency. Kellen. Huh? Mr. Burleson. So I kind of want to dive into that. Can you go into greater detail about that event at the airport with the two FBI agents? What did they look like? Did you overhear the conversation? What exactly happened? Kellen so we were leaving the island, and we have Pre clear customs, St. Thomas in the airport. And there was a handler that usually, like, will bring us in and handle our luggage. And we give our IDs. And I just remember standing there. It was like, me, Jeffrey and his girlfriend, and I think one other guest. And the handler comes up and Says there's FBI agents that want to talk to Sarah. And redacted. And I feel like I could. I saw them from a distance, but they were kind of far away. And Jeffrey's like, wait here. And then he went to speak with him, and then 10 minutes later, he comes back and he's like, okay, let's go. And, like, then we all just walk on the plane. And then he never says anything else about it. And nothing else happened. Burleson, what do you think? Those agents wanted to talk to Sarah and redacted Kellen. I knew he was being investigated at the time. Burleson. Were they underage at the time? Kellen. Who? Ham. No, it wasn't. They wanted to talk to Burleson. To you. I'm sorry. To Sarah. And redacted Burleson. Okay. Did you ever schedule any meetings, any calls with Epstein, with individuals who might have been in any intelligence agencies from the United States? Well, that's weird, because Bill Burns was at Jeffrey Epstein's house. Mr. Burleson might want to check on that. Kellen. No. Burleson, did Epstein have other interactions that you were aware of with other government officials, whether it's FBI, CIA, Kellen. I mean, other than, like, Bill Clinton or Prince. I mean, that's not us. I know he was friends with George Mitchell. He remained friendly with Matt Menshel after his jail time, who I think was one of the prosecutors in his first case. Burleson. Okay, Any foreign contacts I know that you mentioned he had. There were multiple interactions with Ehud Barak. Did those visits include security? Were there other officials at the meetings as well? Kellen Ahud definitely had security. He would visit the house in New York and a who'd also stayed at one of the apartments at 301 when he visited. Burleson, did any of those. Were any of those meetings of a business nature? Were they just personal or social in nature? Kellen. I'm not sure what the nature was exactly. I also remember that there was an associate of Ehud, Yanni Coren, I believe was his name, that Jeffrey was paying for his medical bills in New York. And then he had me go to the hospital and pay cash for his procedure on behalf of Yanni Coren. Burleson, did Jeffrey ever discuss or reference working with being protected by, like, intelligence services or other governments? No. Okay. How did he handle his own personal security during travel? Kellan. He didn't really have security in the beginning. When he went to jail the first time, he had his personal trainer, Igor Zinoviev, kind of Become like a driver, bodyguard for a while after. But other than that, he didn't really have, like, a proper security detail. BURLESON Was Glenn's father, Robert Maxwell, was it ever brought up in that relationship? KELLAN not that I remember. I remember Ghislaine. There was like, like a book about her father, and she gave a copy to Fidel Castro when we were in Cuba. But I don't know that there was a lot of conversation necessarily. Like, I knew that they had a yacht, his yacht was named after her. I didn't even really like, kind of research or understand who he was or what, you know. He was accused of stealing money from his employees, and they weren't sure it was either a suicide or a murder in his death. On the boat. BURLESON Were there any other, any other meetings with people from the Middle East? Were there any transfers, any kind of information or tech? KELLAN he was very friendly with Sultan Bin Suleiman. I think that they were both invested in, like, a yacht company. I don't know if this was, like, particular information. I think they were both invested, like American Yacht Company. Burleson thank you. Ms. Boebert so you had testified that you had fairly extensive interactions with President Clinton. Did President Clinton know that you were being abused by Jeffrey Epstein? KELLEN no. BOEBERT in your testimony, it seems that you were made to be available at all times at Jeffrey Epstein's pleasure. He would wake you up in the middle of the night, even. And so did those interactions happen on the plane? KELLEN yes. BOEBERT and were other people present on the plane when the abuse occurred? KELLEN it wasn't in front of them. He had a bedroom in the back with a door on it. BOEBERT and was anyone suspicious of what was of the interactions that were happening behind the closed doors? KELLEN I don't know. No one ever really spoke about things like that. Like, he kind of made sure we were all kind of separate and didn't, like, talk to each other. And he was very strategic about that. BOBERT Were you allowed, were you specifically or anyone working with Jeffrey Epstein not allowed to speak with the guests or friends that he had on the plane or. No one talks on the plane. How was that separation made? KELLAN I mean, we would just talk about service things, but nobody spoke about anything private. BOEBERT and did anything sexual ever happen in the presence of Bill Clinton? KELLAN no. BOEBERT Was he on the plane at the time when he would bring you into a room and abuse you? Was President Clinton on the plane when Jeffrey Epstein would bring you in the room and abuse you? KELLEN no. BOEBERT Never once were you abused on a plane while President Trump or, excuse me, President Clinton was aboard. KELLEN no. BOEBERT President Clinton testified that he did not have a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton were friendly and did have a friendship? KELLEN they seemed to be friendly for a short period of time around the times that Jeffrey flew him to Africa and Asia, but I didn't see like it lasted or was anything kind of more beyond that time period. BOEBERT Were you ever in contact with President Clinton in arranging flights or meetings? KELLEN I was on all the flights with Mr. Clinton, President Clinton. BOEBERT Were you ever part of were you ever the one to arrange meetings with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein? KELLEN no, like for those particular trips it would have been, I think Lane mostly organized with the staff and the scheduling for those. Ms. Boebert, while Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton were friendly during that short period of time, did you see them together and witness their interaction? KELLEN yes. BOEBERT what was it, if you can recall, that they had spoken about?
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KELLEN I don't remember specifics of what they spoke about. I mean I was present with them on the planes and various like the Sultan of Brunei's house. We went and had lunch there. We were together in President Clinton's hotel room in Brunei in the pool. Ms. Boebert, were you abused in the hotel room at the time while Bill Clinton was there? KELLEN no, definitely not when Bill Clinton was there. I don't remember if anything happened privately with Jeffrey on that trip. BOEBERT did any did any other men ever approach you with a desire to be connected with other women or girls? KELLEN no. BOEBERT you had mentioned that there was at least three other abusers. Are those the only other three abusers or were you abused by anyone else? Ms. Kellen Jeffrey Gillain, Philip Levine and Frederic Flakai Patrick Demarchier. Nothing happened, but he tried burleson what was that name again? Patrick Demarchier. He is a famous fashion photographer. Boebert. And you said nothing happened? He tried. Kellen. He walked over to me with his pants down, And I refused. Ms. Boebert. And he accepted your refusal? I'm sorry. I know that's uncomfortable for you to relive. I'm not trying to be harsh in my questioning and in any of these, did you. You said you never connected with any men with girls ever? Kellen. No. Ham. Sorry. To clarify, you never connected any of Jeffrey Epstein's associates with other girls? Kellen. Correct. Ham. Yeah. Okay. Boebert. When I made the statement, I did mean associates of Jeffrey Epstein. Thank you for clarifying. Can you describe Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Hillary Clinton? I never met her, so I'm not sure. I'm not aware of what relationship they would have had. Burleson, did you ever schedule any meetings between the two? No. Okay. I think that's all I have for now. Okay. Thanks, Ms. Kellen. In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating Mr. Epstein. And in July of 2006, Mr. Epstein was arrested for the first time for soliciting prostitution for. From minors. When did you first become aware of the investigation into Mr. Epstein? 2005. Question. How did you become aware? I don't think I can say. Ham? Yeah, I think that implicates another victim, unfortunately. But why don't we give you the approximate time period? Was it before or after the search warrant? Before. Brainac. Did someone tell you about the investigation? Ham. I think she can't discuss specifics. Question. Did someone tell you about the investigation? Answer. Yes. Question. It was a victim. Ham. We think this may, based on allegations, implicate a victim. But I think you can say generally how the information got to you. Was it by phone? Was it by email? Did somebody come and talk to you? Kellen. It was by phone. Brainac. Okay. Did you believe that at the time that the allegations were true? Ham. I don't think at the time she knew the allegations exactly. I wasn't sure what the allegations were. Brigniak. I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I didn't know what the allegations were at the time. When did you first hear about the allegations? I don't know exactly. Jeffrey kind of presented it all, that he was the victim, that he was being taken advantage of, like unscrupulous women that were out to get his money and in cahoots with each other, that their attorneys were out to extort him. He would give me examples of Scott Rothstein making up false civil suits that he forged a judge's signature and, like, was committing fraud and was, like, getting investors to pay off these settlements that didn't exist. And he was like, see, they're making it up. Question, did you believe him? I did. Question why? Because I only had his side, his reference. Nobody questioned me. Nobody approached me. So I only had his narrative. Given that he was abusing you at the time, why did you think that these other victims were not being truthful? I didn't view my abuse at the time. I didn't blame him. I blame myself because I never spoke up. I never said no. I never fought. I chose. I know, like, trauma response is usually fight, flight, or flee or freeze. And I chose Fawn to kind of appease him, to stay on his good side and be safe. Hi, folks. We're gonna wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.