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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 11) (6/15/26)
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Sarah Kellen told Congress that she was not a willing architect of Jeffrey Epstein’s operation but one of his victims, claiming Epstein groomed, abused, isolated, and controlled her for years. She described herself as trapped inside his world through...
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monarch.com what's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right back to the Sarah Kellen interview with Congress. Question On October 20, 2005, police executed a search warrant for Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach, Florida home. Were you present for the search? Answer no. Question when did you learn that that home had been raided? Answer I don't recall how I found out. It may have been one of the house staff members. I don't really have a recollection. Question did anyone tip Mr. Epstein off to the search warrant? I don't know. Are you aware of any items being removed from Jeffrey Epstein's Palm beach residence prior to the raid? Yes. He called another assistant and told her to go to the house and remove the computers from the house. Question who is that assistant? Answer Redacted question Question what did he tell her? Answer I just overheard him on the phone with her, so I vaguely the gist was like go to the house and take the computers. And it was my understanding she was to give them to his attorney. Question do you know how Mr. Epstein became aware of the search warrant? Answer I don't. Question can you describe what he instructed her to remove from the property? Answer as far as I can remember, just the computers. Question did you witness her remove these items for from the property? No. I was on the island with him when he called her. How did you overhear the phone call? I was in front of him. Did you learn that the items had in fact been removed from the property? I assume they did and I've read articles about it, so I assumed it happened. Do you have any first hand knowledge that the assistant was complicit in removing the items from the property? Did the assistant ever tell you ham jumps in? Did you know that? Do you know if she did that? And I'm going to ask that one more time so it's clear on the did the assistant or anyone else ever tell you that she had in fact removed the items from the property? I don't remember. Did you hear if anyone else removed the Items from the property, like at the time, not what you've heard since then? It's hard to remember exactly what I knew at the time versus what I've read. What's your understanding of why he wanted those contents removed from the property? I don't know. Were items or records intentionally destroyed or withheld from the police as part of the investigation? I don't know. I remember. I think it was Valentine's Day because I was having dinner with my then boyfriend and Jeffrey called me and had me come leave the dinner to meet him at his house in New York. And he had lawyers there. Darren Endyke was there and a few of his other attorneys. And he told me to gather various things from the house and give it to his attorneys. Question. Can you list those items for me? And to that, Ms. Ham jumps in again. One second. Can we go off record now? They're back on the record. Ham. We're just confirming on the victim piece of it. Brignac, I'm going to ask the question once more for clarity on the record. Were items or records ever intentionally destroyed or. Or withheld from the police as part of the investigation? You said, yes, that items. You were called and asked to turn over items to attorneys. I ask you to list those items. Ham, can we just clarify in terms of intentionally withheld from police? I'm not sure at the time you understood why you were collecting the information. Kellen. Correct. Ham, you were asked to go. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but. Kellan. Correct. I was just asked to go around the house and collect to give to the attorneys. I didn't know the purpose of what they were going to do with the items. I didn't understand it. That was it. That's intentionally trying to gets cut off by Brignac. Understood. You received an instruction from your boss to remove items from the property. Answer. I didn't remove it. I was just gathering it from the floors in the house and putting it in the dining room for the attorneys. I don't know what they did with it. Question. Okay, can you list the items that you gathered into the dining room? Answer. Directories and printed photographs. Question. Which directories? Answer. All the ones. Ghislaine's directory that she had printed and were all around the houses. Question. In which photographs? Ham, we're going to ask her not to get into the specifics of photographs because I think that based on the allegations that we've heard could implicate other victims. Brignac, for the record, are you refusing to answer the question? I would like to answer that question, but I need to listen to my counsel, Timmons. And again, for the record, if she had immunity, would you be able to answer that question? Yes. Brignac, who instructed you? Ham jumps in again. Oh, I'm sorry. If I can jump in. And I want to be clear, because I think sometimes when people talk about immunity, there is some confusion. This would be use immunity. I mean, I know that you know this Congressman, but this would be use immunity. It's not transactional immunity. She would not. She would be able to speak about items, you know, speak about issues to this committee. But it's not transactional immunity, Kellen. I don't know what any of that means. Ham. I know you don't, but it's fine. Go ahead. Brignac, who instructed you to gather these items for the dining room? Answer, Jeffrey. Question. And what was your understanding of why these items were being gathered? To give it to the attorneys that were working on the case. How long after the instruction did the raid take place? I don't believe his New York home was ever raided until 2019, which would have been sometime probably 2006. Were you aware of security cameras on Mr. Epstein's properties? He had cameras in the New York house that were directed out to the street, but I don't recall any cameras being inside as the New York house. They were all at different angles on the street in Palm beach, he had noticed someone was stealing cash out of his bag a few times, and he had Palm beach police come help put, like, two hidden cameras by his. Like, one by his desk and one, I think, in the garage to try and catch whoever was, like, breaking in and stealing his money. And they caught the old house man that was fired sneaking in and stealing. It was actually Larry Vasoski who put cameras in. In a Kleenex box. Hell of a job for a pilot, huh? Question, Was the camera footage ever turned over to the police or FBI? Answer, I don't recall exactly what happened with the footage or. Yeah. Question, do you have access to the camera footage, or did you have access to the camera footage? Answer, I don't remember, but I think it had gone to one of the computers. There's an office. In the kitchen, there was a desktop, and I'm fairly certain it somehow was connected to the computer. And, Miss, There have been allegations that the camera footage has been used for blackmail purposes. How do you respond to that allegation? I'm not aware of any blackmailing. Yeah, tell that to Bill Gates. And are you aware of whether the computer hard drives were Removed from the Palm beach residence prior to the raid of the Palm beach residence in October 2005. Only what I just described as him telling his other assistant to remove them. Timmons, you have described physical violence, choking and other physical interactions. Did any of those interactions result in visible bruising, abrasions, nonverbal response? Timmons. No. No. You referenced gifts that Mr. Epstein received while he was imprisoned. Who provided these gifts to Epstein? Ham. I don't think she mentioned that. Sort of, what she interpreted to be sort of special favors, like Skype, and that you understand that at his direction, gifts were being given to people, not to Mr. Epstein, but given gifts to others. Ms. Kellen. Right. The cash and the Disney tickets were someone else from Mr. Epstein. Is that correct? Correct. Okay. Were massages a part of Epstein's routine day? Yeah, I think we're going to avoid massages. Just. Again, I know that the allegations are in this case, and I don't want to get her into the other victims. And for the record, are you refusing to answer the question? I would like to answer the question. I really would, but I need to listen to my counsel. How was contact information for the masseuses procured? Ham. This is the same issue. Brignac. And for the record, are you refusing to answer the question? I'm asking her, just based on the scope that we laid out. And given that this is a voluntary interview to avoid certain topics, and I hope that people do not infer anything by her silence. Sorry, we do. Okay, we do. This is just another sham voluntary interview. No teeth. Nothing happens if she lies. And I hope that people do not infer anything by her silence. She wishes, as she mentioned many times, that she could talk on these subjects, but this is not, unfortunately, has not been presented to her in a format in which that is possible. Timmons. But should the committee provide immunity, she would be able to answer the questions. Ham. Yeah. Timmons. Okay. And that's because she's guilty. I hate to say it, folks, but she's guilty. Now, two things can be true at the same time. Sure, she was victimized by Epstein, but she's also guilty. Brignac, can you provide the committee with an age range of the masseuses that came to the House? Ham. This is the same issue. Thank you. Brignac. For the record, are you refusing to answer the question? Pam. For the record, I've asked her, based on the scope that she's prepared to discuss today, to not answer these questions, but as she mentioned many times, she would prefer to be answering them. Ms. Brignac, is that A yes. I need to listen to my counsel's advice. Question, Ms. Kellen, are you familiar with the birthday book that was compiled for Mr. Epstein's 50th birthday in January of 2003? Answer yes. What was your role with the birthday book? I helped put it together. Kind of scan the entries and take it to a binder so that it's bound into a leather bound. I think there were two or three books that it entailed. Did you make a submission to the birthday book? I did. Kellan. Majority Exhibit 1 was marked for identification. Brignac, I would like to introduce Majority Exhibit 1. This is a letter from a book that was compiled as a gift from. For Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday in January 2003 by Ghislaine Maxwell. I'll give you a moment to review, and please let me know when you're ready. Ham, is there a certain page you want her to look at or the whole thing? Brignac? The whole thing. Question. Ready. Huh? Question. The committee is aware that these letters and pictures contain redactions. However, the unredacted version of that photo on page four has been made publicly available and. And therefore, the committee believes the submission to be made by you. Is that correct? It's not my submission, but this is a photo of me and him. Who submitted this compilation of letters and photographs? It was another assistant. It's fine. We'll ask for redactions at the end. Did Ms. Maxwell provide, or redacted, provide you with any instructions or suggestions for what you should write in the birthday book? Kellen? I. I mean, she's the one that asked for us to give submissions. I didn't remember what I submitted until I saw it in the files. I think she did help with kind of the reference of what I submitted. Toland. And what was your submission, Kellan? It was also, like, photographs of me in a bikini. And I think it was, like, showing gratitude, basically saying that I was like, nothing. I don't remember the exact words, like, the gist, like, you know, I had nothing. I'm grateful for kind of what you've given me, sort of thing. Alongside those bikini photos. The entry states, and I quote and thought you might like ellipses, some bikini shots. Did you write this, Kellan? No. In this submission? No, that's not me. Ham. That's not you? Kellan. No. Ham. Yeah. This 224 is not her, I think. Page two. Brignac, do you know why this collection of letters and photographs might have been grouped together for the book? Kellan? I don't know. I'm not sure why. Redacted would have included a photo of myself in her submission. Brignac, thank you. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode, dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. 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