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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 7) (6/13/26)
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Sarah Kellen told Congress that she was not a willing architect of Jeffrey Epstein’s operation but one of his victims, claiming Epstein groomed, abused, isolated, and controlled her for years. She described herself as trapped inside his world through...
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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right back to the Sarah Kellen transcript from her meeting with Congress. Ms. Ansari, thank you so much for being here. Did you ever hear about Epstein meeting with any prominent individuals? Sarah Kellen. Yes. Ansari, can you name some of those individuals? Kellen, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, Ehud Barack, Alan Dershowitz, Leon Black. Ms. Ansari, are there any specific recollections of these individuals that you could provide or instances where you may have met them as well? Ms. Kellen, I was on all the trips with President Clinton in Asia and Africa. I remember seeing Leon Black at New York house, come in for meetings. I believe we had dinner with him in Paris one time. Bill Gates was at the New York house. Prince Andrew was at the New York house. We also went to Andrew's private apartment at Buckingham palace for dinner. And we were at Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday party at Windsor Castle. Ehud Barak visited quite often. We went to Israel with him. One time he would stay at the guest apartment in New York. All of Jeffries, quite often. Ms. Ham, if I can interject, it might be easier for her to remember if there are specific names and we can just kick through them. Because I'm fairly confident that there are more prominent people than what she's named, and I'm not. I'm not sure that she can remember them all in the moment. Ms. Ansari, so to get to more specifics, and you may have said these individuals, were you aware of any meetings between Epstein and. And Andrew Windsor? Kellan? Yes, and sorry. Were you aware of meetings between Epstein and Donald Trump? Only the one time that I met him at Mar A Lago for like five minutes. Otherwise, I don't recall Donald ever being present. And sorry, what about Epstein and Peter Thiel? Kellan. No, Ansari. Epstein and Steve Bannon. Kellen. I heard about it, but I have never met Steve Bannon. Ms. Hamm, did you hear. I'm sorry, did you hear about it after the fact or at the time after the fact? Ham. Okay. Ansari, while you were working with him, though? After the fact. And sorry, it was later on. Yeah. And sorry. Okay. Were you aware of any meetings between Epstein and Elon Musk? No. And sorry. Okay. And you said yes to Bill Clinton and. And Bill Gates? Kellen. Correct. Ansari. And four in particular, Bill Gates. I'm curious, what was your understanding of his relationship with Epstein? Kellen? Jeffrey was very friendly with one of Bill Gates associates, Boris Nikolic. They were quite friendly. And it's my impression that he was using Boris to get to Bill. I'm not quite sure what the discussions were or, you know, what he was trying to get from Bill, but he seemed to always, you know, want to be connected to the most powerful people. I remember being present at the New York house when Bill Gates. There's a picture that was online that I actually took of Bill Gates. Jess Staley, Lauren Summers. I don't know if Leon was in the picture, but it was a group of, like, kind of really powerful men meeting at his house in New York. Ms. Ansari and did you play a role in scheduling any of those meetings between Epstein and. And any of these individuals? Ms. Kellen Sometimes it depended on, like, if it was on the weekend, if the New York office was open or not. Leslie did most of the scheduling for his appointments like that. ANSARI okay, so if it wasn't you, it was Leslie Kellen most likely, or somebody else in the office. Ms. Ansari and then could you just describe the process by which you would go about scheduling the meetings? KELLEN Myself, if he told me to call somebody and schedule a time, I would. I would do it. ANSARI thank you. Mr. Frost jumps in next. Thank you. I'm Maxwell Frost. I represent Orlando's Florida 10th. I have a couple of questions for you about Mr. Epstein's time in jail in Florida. From your perspective, did Epstein get any special treatment while he was in jail in Florida? KELLEN Somehow he was able to Skype me from jail before he got work release. He Skyped me from a computer and told me to undress for him on camera. I don't know how that happened. Mr. Frost that was actually one of my questions. As to video, was it only a Skype call or did you recall any more? Only one that I remember. FROST Are you aware of whether this was a common practice in the jail, or do you think he was given special treatment to be able to Skype someone from within the jail? I would assume that he was given special treatment. I don't think that was, you know, I'm not familiar with protocol jails, but that doesn't seem like it would have been one of them. FROST do you know how he arranged this, or did he ever discuss how it was arranged? KELLEN no. FROST Was the call out of the blue, or was the call scheduled? KELLEN it was out of the blue. FROST Was it his Skype account or was it a different Skype account? Do you remember? KELLEN that's a good question. I don't remember. FROST Were you able to ascertain where in the jail he was? Was it like a jail cell, or was it like a special room? KELLAN I couldn't really see. It was just kind of like plain white walls. FROST Are there other ways beyond the Skype call that you think he received special treatment in the jail in Florida? KELLAN I know that he arranged to have cash and, like, Disneyland tickets taken to one of the officers in the jail, and I'm not sure what he received with that. Mr. Frost do you know the officer's name? Kellen Michael Fox. Mr. Frost how'd you learn this information? KELLAN the paralegal that worked for him was the one to take the money to him. FROST Is that something they told you kind of like, oh, this? Like, what was the nature of them telling you this information? Was it just kind of confide in you that it was weird, or was it like part of your job to know? KELLEN he was kind of griping about it because he lived far away and he had to drive and drop it off. Mr. Frost do you know that happening with any other officials or officers or people in the justice system as it relates to his time in jail? KELLAN not specifically. I mean, he got work released for 12 hours a day. I feel like that seemed like pretty preferential treatment. FROST did he ever talk about the process of how he got work release? KELLAN I know that he set up an office in West Palm beach specifically for him to go to for a work release that didn't exist before. The Florida Science Foundation? Mr. Frost huh? Kellen it was right down the hall from one of his main attorneys in West Palm Beach, Jack Goldberger's office. I'm not sure exactly what the Florida Science foundation did. Mr. Frost do you know if he ever Skyped or video called other women or other people while he was in jail? I don't know. FROST did you ever visit him while he was in jail? Yes. Mr. Frost how many times? It was once a week until he got work release. FROST did you ever meet Michael Fox while you visited him? I feel like I did, but I just can't place where. FROST did he ever talk to you about the preferential treatment at all, or the Disney tickets or the cash or any offhand comments or anything relating to that? You remember? KELLEN Michael Fox FROST Michael Fox. KELLEN no. FROST why did you visit him? KELLEN because he told me to. FROST he told you to come once a week? KELLEN Yep. FROST what did you guys talk about when you'd go visit him? KELLEN he would just talk about other inmates, kind of notes that they would give him or things that they would say to him. He would mostly try to joke about the situation and and like his circumstances, make light of it. I would usually go in with another his girlfriend at the time, and then I would leave early so that they would have some alone time. FROST Wait, Say it again. KELLEN I would usually go in alongside with his girlfriend at the time. We'd go in together, and then I would be there for a shorter period of time and then I would leave early. FROST did you drive together there? KELLEN yes. FROST did she ever talk to you on the ride about the preferential treatment at all or anything relating to his jail time? KELLEN not specifically that I can remember. FROST and when you'd leave a little earlier, would you wait in the car for KELLEN Yes. FROST Was there anything else that happened during those visits beyond the conversation? KELLEN no. We would just sit outside, like on a picnic bench, and he'd be on one side and we'd be on the other side. FROST and was anyone else present but beside you and the girlfriend on any of the visits? KELLEN Occasionally other people would go visit. I can't remember if we would all go at the same time or if we would space it out in timing, but I do remember that other people going around like at the same time as me. FROST do you remember any names? KELLEN I'm pretty sure. Jean Luc Brunel. There was another man, Paul Prosperi, that went quite often. I think he used to be an attorney, but I'm not sure what he was. I don't think he was like Jeffrey's attorney. I think just a friend, maybe. Igor Zinoviev. I know he was like his driver and bodyguard at the time. I don't remember if he went in specifically and saw him in the jail or not. FROST Anyone that you can recall? KELLEN his paralegal, went in every single day. STORY COWS he was there, I think six times a week all day. FROST Anyone else? KELLEN not that I remember right now. Mr. Frost okay, thank you. Back to Mr. Submaranium. I'm going to try my best. You'll have to tell me when I'm going outside the bounds. So I guess I have just a general question. If the DOJ were to, let's say, reopen the investigation into the matter and offer you immunity, would you sit down with them and tell them everything you know? I have sat down with them and told them everything I know, SUBMARINE okay. And then if the DOJ were to release, as you may know, there are some files that have not been released. Do you believe if the DOJ released them we would find out more information and more names of the people who participated in trafficking Kellan I don't know, Submaranium and as far as your job responsibilities, did you ever take passports from anyone when they traveled, particularly survivors? KELLEN I've never taken anyone's passport or held onto it. Occasionally, if we were leaving the island or leaving like an international location, the pilots would need everyone's information ahead of time to Pre clear customs. Mr. Subranium did you ever come across fake passports? Kellen no. SUBRANIUM okay, and then did you ever facilitate any flights or meetings for Sarah Ferguson, particularly Kellen potentially organizing meetings at Jeffrey's office in Palm beach or while he was on work release and at the house in Palm Beach? SUBMARANIUM I think there was some talk earlier about Indyke and Khan. Do you believe that they were aware of what was going on as far as the abuse? Ms. Ham as far as the abuse, Submarine or any of the abuse, but he gets cut off by Kellen. They potentially would have seen my nude photos around the houses if they went to visit Jeffrey or visited some of the houses. Mr. Did they ever ask you about whether you were encountering any abuse? No. I guess you can say that you won't answer this, but did you ever meet Virginia Roberts? I think I answered it earlier. I don't remember meeting her, but I have seen that there were two flights with us on it together. SUBRANIUM okay, and then were you aware of. I guess he won't be answering this question, so never mind. I guess that's all I have for now. Thanks. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.