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“There Were Victims”: Inside the Demonstration at Epstein’s New Mexico Ranch
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In late February 2026, dozens of survivors of Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse and their supporters gathered for a demonstration at the former Zorro Ranch, the sprawling New Mexico property once owned by Epstein, to demand action and transparency from...
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what's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. One of the biggest mysteries, if you will, when it comes to Epstein is what occurred at Zorro Ranch. And unfortunately, the authorities had a chance to really blow the doors off of that investigation back in 2019, 2020. And they refused to do so. So I went down to Santa Fe and Zorro Ranch to do some investigating of my own. And when I got there and I started talking to people, I was blown away by how many people knew something was up at Zorro Ranch. And according to the sources I spoke with, including ex law enforcement, it was ignored because of Jeffrey Epstein's contacts and his political connections inside New Mexico and out, obviously. But he had a lot of powerful friends in New Mexico, the King family, Bill Richardson and others. So he was given that secrecy in New Mexico. And when the investigation into Epstein kicked off in earnest, the state of New Mexico kicked the investigation up to the federal government. And of course, the federal government never even bothered to raid Zoro Ranch or do any real investigation in New Mexico. So now people obviously they're pissed off. And now that people are finding out about this, they want answers. And people down in New Mexico have taken the step to even go up to the ranch and protest. So today we're going to talk about that protest at Zorro Ranch. And to do that, we have an article from the Santa Fe New Mexican. The author of this article is Andre Sulkin. A handful of armed private security stood guard at the former Jeffrey Epstein estate, warning those gathered for a roadside vigil not to step onto the property. Oh, isn't that nice? The New Owner, the Huffing family. Armed guards. Really? Oh, don't step onto the property. Bunch of fucking clowns. Cowards. Rather protect Jeffrey Epstein, huh? They're protecting their filth, said Pauline Sims, a retired Albuquerque teacher, as she recorded the guards from the other side of the gate. They know what happened there. There is nothing hidden in the world, she added. Never. Eventually, it'll all be out. And you know what? I hope so. I really hope so. And up until recently, I had zero faith that we'd ever find out what really happened in New Mexico. Nobody cared. Literally, nobody gave a shit. Now, of course there are a few people, obviously, that you know the score and wanted to know what was going on there, but I'm talking about in the overall conversation. New Mexico was never even really brought up. The island this, the island that. And I told you all back then that there was something real bad going on at this ranch. Now, I'm not gonna say, you know, there was a bunch of murders or anything like that, because I don't know, but do I think it's possible? I certainly do. And I also think that there were some weird ass experiments going on there as well. What those experiments were again, I wish I could tell you. Around 60 people came to the former Zorro Ranch, now known as Rancho San Rafael Saturday morning for a part memorial, part protest to pay tribute to Epstein's survivors. While some praise the state's efforts now to investigate what happened, many lambasted the state and federal officials for acting too late or failing altogether to bring justice to the high profile participants of his alleged years long operation to sex traffic minors to powerful clients. That was just part of it. Remember, Epstein was doing a lot more than just trafficking minors. And even if they can come up with an excuse for why they missed that, how did they miss all the financial crimes? How'd they miss all the other stuff that was going on? How they missed the immigration scam that was being run? Well, the answer is they didn't miss it. They ignored it. Eddie Aragon, a radio host and something of a central figure and in New Mexico's part of the Epstein saga, was among the roadside crowd. In 2019, Aragon received an email from an anonymous sender claiming to be a former Zorro Ranch employee. Did you know that somewhere in the hills outside of Zorro, two foreign girls were buried on the orders of Jeffrey and Madam G? The person wrote with Madam G likely referring to Ghislaine Maxwell. Both died by strangulation during rough fetish sex. Now that certainly fits. I can't tell you One way or the other with certainty that there's people buried on this property. But girls dying during rough sex is not unheard of. Especially when we're talking about these rich degenerates who have no regard for anybody, never mind some girl that they're abusing. So did somebody go too far one day? Very possible. And you see this is the big problem, right? This is why an investigation should have kicked off years ago. But because you didn't do that, here we are now, and now there's a lot more people interested in what's going on. And I think that the more people that are demanding answers, the closer we're going to get. Does that mean we're going to get over the goal line and have all the answers we want? Doubtful. But if new Mexico here does something a little different and opens a real estate investigation and holds people accountable, that could set a template moving forward. You mean to tell me nobody committed any crimes in New York? I got bad news for you. They most certainly did. The message also included seven video descriptions offering to send aragon the videos if he sent one bitcoin. He didn't pay. But thinking the claims might be legitimate, forwarded the email to the FBI only for it to resurface. In a recent dump of epstein files from the u. S. Justice department. The new mexico land commissioner, Stephanie Garcia richard urged an investigation into the reported bodies earlier this month. The New Mexico department of justice reopened its criminal investigation in mid february, and state lawmakers created the truth commission to during the recently concluded legislative session to investigate epstein's activities at the ranch. So look, I'm not going to blame the new politicians for what the previous ones did. Let's give them a chance to do the right thing. Right? I try to give everybody the benefit of the doubt. Until you prove to me you're an absolute, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So let's see what this truth commission can come up with. And hopefully they subpoena people and they have a state level run investigation that the feds can't tamper with. That's crucial because we know we can't trust the doj and we know that congress isn't going to install any kind of real guardrails here. They've already proven they're not gonna do that. So where do we go from here? Maybe we have to take it to the state level. I was doing this six and a half years ago. Why weren't we doing this back then? Aragon said in an interview. Besides the ranch's gate, he doesn't expect that to change now. I tried contacting the FBI again to give them an update on the person I think is responsible for the email. There's nothing that's going to be done. Look, he's not wrong and I hate to be cynical, but history has shown us they're not going to do shit about this. And if they really wanted to do something, the DOJ would have actually been transparent. But no. While many present praised state lawmaker efforts, Aragon called them baloney political theater that he said wouldn't target Democrats named in the files, including former President Bill Clinton and the late former governor Bill Richardson. Well, there's a lot of politics at play, especially now, and it's disgusting because what it does is it puts the survivors and the victims second, and instead of centering them, it centers politics. And of course, that's how things get all muddled, more confusing and how people end up justifying, not investigating things. Oh, this is just a hoax. And he said it's now too late to uncover anything, including bodies reported in the email, owing to years of development and changes to the property. The whole place is different. They revamped it. They raised the labyrinth that's in the back, he said despite his doubts, he supports those who gathered Saturday. I think it's good that they're out here, he said. There. There were victims. Yeah, there were victims. There were a lot of victims In New Mexico, 100%. Whether those victims were American girls or otherwise, I don't give a shit. A victim is a victim, and the powerful preying on us has to end. I refuse to be under the fucking boot of these people. I refuse and I will not shut up about it until something changes.
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The ranch's new owners, revealed earlier this month by the New Mexican to be the family of Don Huffines, a former Republican Texas state senator, were ordered to cease construction on the exterior gate, which appeared half completed Saturday owing to a lack of a permit. The Hafeans family has aimed to rehabilitate the image of the sprawling ranch, planning a Christian retreat on the site and renaming It Rancho San Rafael. A Christian retreat on this site? Oh, that's a whole different level of weird. Now, look, I'm certainly not into the occult or anything like that. I really don't have any idea, but this seems like a desecration to me. We have a site here where people might have been murdered. We know people were raped and assaulted, but sure, let's bring a Christian camp here. Here's an idea, Mr. Rich Guy, why don't you turn Zorro Ranch into some kind of facility that hurts people who are abused? Just a thought. Many attendees were struck with a motion standing on New Mexico 41, dwarfed by the half completed gate and under surveillance by cameras placed beside it. Yo, when I went there, there was nobody there, obviously. So I went to the gate, and they had all these cameras everywhere. And I ring the bell, right? Nobody answers. So I ring the bell again, and they have, like this intercom system. So I start talking shit, calling them cowards, chumps, the whole thing. Nobody ever showed up. Not one person, not a security guard, nobody. I saw them there. They were standing on the property, but nobody showed up. And I was there for like an hour. But the real meat and potatoes of my trip came talking to people. I mean, even the lady that was running my hotel knew that something goofy was going on. Down at Zorro Ranch, a Santa Fe resident, Gabe Silva, 73, originally from Las Cruces, drove toward the distant hilltop manor. He gave only one word for what its image invoked. Atrocities. Kim Hatch, 46, of Rio Rancho grew emotional, embracing her son William, 9, as the two listened to a prayer. You have no soul, she called out to the guards, who were approached briefly by Santa Fe county sheriff's deputies before they drove off. Well, let's not get too carried away on the guards. They're doing their job right. It's the people that employ them. And I would never encourage anybody to wild out. That's what they want you to do. Don't give them what they want. Be cool, calm, collected, and blast them into oblivion with facts. That's how you win. I'm absolutely outraged by what our government, local and federal, is covering up, said Hatch, a survivor of sexual assault and an army veteran. Victims are not being heard, not being believed. Attendees place crosses, stuffed animals, bouquets of flowers, and solar lights at the roadside. There were posters and copies of Epstein's victim, Virginia Roberts, whose memoir, released a few months after her death by suicide, in which she alleges Epstein ran a sex trafficking ring of minors to serve a wealthy and powerful clientele. He most certainly did, but not in the way a lot of people think. It wasn't like Heidi Fleiss, people being shamed and stepping down from their positions. That's not accountability, hatch said. We need actual justice, not just continued thoughts and prayers that don't mean anything. And I brought my son because he needs to know what can happen so he can be part of the next generation to make sure that it goddamn doesn't. And good for Ms. Hatch, raise your son to know better and to speak out when is not right. The memorial was organized by Hot Flash abq, whose events usually take the shape of dances at Albuquerque bars. Co founder Kathy Barber, 63, and Kathy Kundas, 59, visited the ranch two weeks ago and found no sign acknowledging Epstein or his victims, something they aimed to fix. We wanted to let people know that we're going to remember the victims and stand with the survivors, barber said, likening the roadside memorial to Cross's place after car crashes. When they went to construct it, she said, one of the security personnel asked, why are you chasing a five year old story? Don't you have anything better to do? Wow, they really said that. So let me retract what I said about security a second ago and replace it with a gigantic you, Mr. Tough Guy, huh? Why are you chasing a five year old story? What if it was your daughter, tough Guy? How'd you feel about that? I know, I know. I get it. Your Dear Leader told you it was a hoax and you should move on. But I doubt you would be if it was your daughter. We figured, yes, we do, barber said. We'll organize something bigger and better so you have to look at every single day as you drive in. She noted that the memorial is protected as it doesn't lie on the ranch property, and her group aims to host future events at the site. Many attendees, including Barber, said they did not identify with a political party and instead sought accountability for all who participated in the alleged operation. Yo, that's the message right there to help these political parties. They're the reason we're in this mess. It's going to be up to us, folks, okay? It's going to be up to us coming together as a coalition of people who are done, people who are tired of the and people who are ready for real change. The feds ain't doing Lou Gibney, 65, a construction worker from the East Mountains who identified as a political independent. They've known about this for a long time and just covered it up because it's expedient. And he added eventually they're going to have to pay attention to us. Everybody's got to realize it's not left and right, it's top going against the bottom. Amen, bro. 1,000%. We're the enemy. These people despise you. You didn't get that from those emails. You couldn't see that from the way they talked about you. They hate you and your kids. They're expendable. Whether it's to be abused or sent to die in some foreign entanglement, it's all the same to them. They don't care. Yo, all these politicians care about is more power and more wealth. And they know that if we ever team up, you know, the pitchforks and the torches, that their whole entire scam and scheme is up. So that's why they continue to promote all these stupid ass wedge issues that were designed to cause division. It's all part of the plan. So when I see people coming together like this and couching their politics, it gives me a little hope. Because I'm telling you right now, we're going to need to work together if we want real accountability. And I think rallies like this are a step in the right direction. Now, with that said, do I trust the government, local or otherwise, to do the right thing? I do not. So I'll remain hopeful but skeptical as we continue to navigate our way through the madness known as the Jeffrey Epstein Maelstrom. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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