Wexner Dismisses Congress, but the Epstein Questions Remain (6/23/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Epstein Chronicles
Episode: Wexner Dismisses Congress, but the Epstein Questions Remain (6/23/26)
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: June 23, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode centers on the recent Congressional deposition of Leslie Wexner, the billionaire former retail magnate and longtime associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Host Bobby Capucci analyzes Wexner’s dismissive attitude toward Congress, the political theater surrounding the deposition, the lack of real accountability for the powerful, and the continuing unanswered questions regarding Wexner’s involvement with Epstein’s criminal activities.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Wexner’s Attitude and Congressional Deposition ([00:48]–[05:50])

• Wexner sat for a nearly six-hour deposition with the House Oversight Committee about his relationship with Epstein.
• He characterized the Congressional hearing as “silly” and “a nothing burger,” accusing Democrats of using the event as a “photo op” and not asking substantive questions.
• Host Reaction: Capucci is deeply skeptical of Wexner’s victim narrative and voluntary cooperation, calling out Wexner’s hypocrisy and arguing that he should face real legal consequences.
  • “If this was a real country and we had any real administration running this country for the last four decades, your ass would be in prison. So cut the [crap]. You’re not fooling anybody here. Oh, woe is me. I’m the victim. Shut your ass up.” (Bobby Capucci, [02:06])
  • He notes that not a single Republican showed up for the deposition and criticizes both parties for politicizing the issue rather than seeking justice.

2. The Political Circus & Performative Accountability ([05:50]–[09:30])

• Capucci lambasts the hearings as “political theater,” arguing that both parties are using the Epstein scandal as a weapon and distraction, while no meaningful outcomes are achieved.

• Claims both sides appear complicit in maintaining the status quo by avoiding tough questions (like those about RICO statutes or real criminal liability).

  • “It’s all a dog and pony show. And if it wasn’t for the discharge petition, forget it, we would have nothing.” ([07:49])

• Specific anecdote: One Congresswoman (Yasmin Ansari, though not named by Wexner) left the deposition to do TV hits and never returned—a moment that epitomizes the lack of seriousness.

3. Lawmaker Skepticism and Public Cynicism ([09:30]–[12:50])

• Democratic members at the deposition express public doubt about Wexner’s claim of ignorance regarding Epstein, questioning how he could be so entangled financially yet unaware of criminal activity.
• Host agrees with their skepticism but takes aim at the broader hypocrisy, recalling a history of political and media indifference to victims’ stories.
  • “I think that it’s obvious that Les Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein were at the very least entangled financially. And if Jeffrey Epstein was committing one crime financially…then everybody that was sending or receiving money from his account should have had their accounts frozen just like the rest of us.” ([10:12])

4. The Systemic Failure and Survivors Left Behind ([12:50]–[17:45])

• Deep frustration at “performative” oversight and bipartisan refusals to pursue real consequences.
  • “Nothing is ever going to come of this. Nobody’s going to go to prison.” ([06:00])
• Capucci highlights that survivors and the public have been ignored for years, and that most politicians and media only pay attention when politically expedient.
• Emphasizes the need for listeners to think critically and independently about the case, rather than adopting partisan narratives.

5. Wexner’s Denials and Political Deflection ([15:00]–[18:45])

• Wexner again denies any knowledge of Epstein’s criminal conduct, insists he was duped and victimized financially, and claims the questioning was a set-up for political attack ads.
• Host ridicules this claim, pointing out Wexner’s connections, political donations, and the lack of consequences for elite power brokers.
• Capucci is explicit in his condemnation:
  • “Hey, Les Wexner, did you or did you not rape Virginia Roberts? Let’s get it on the record.” ([18:05])
• The episode closes with the host’s disgust at the lack of accountability and a sense that Wexner is “doing a victory dance” at having escaped justice.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Wexner’s victim claims:
  “I didn’t know anything. I wasn’t guilty. Wexner said. I was very happy to give the statement and the deposition to end it all. Yeah, you weren’t guilty. That’s not what Virginia said. Why didn’t you ever sue Virginia, Les Wexner? Maybe it’s because you’re guilty.” (Bobby Capucci, [03:20])

• On partisan theatrics:
  “It’s all a dog and pony show. And if it wasn’t for the discharge petition, forget it, we would have nothing.” ([07:49])

• On media and public hypocrisy:
  “Remember, a lot of these people had no concerns. They didn’t care previously. But now that they feel like they can use it as a political weapon, oh, they care immensely.” ([05:30])

• On refusal to pursue real criminal issues:
  “Have you heard one of these dunces ask somebody about RICO? Notice they don’t ever talk about it. Right. Like it’s the plague. Ask yourself why.” ([11:13])

• On survivors being sidelined:
  “Meanwhile, in the middle, the survivors are the ones getting [run] on again. But I guess that doesn’t matter, right? As long as you get your fix of political bloodlust.” ([17:00])

• On Wexner’s victory lap:
  “He’s basically doing a victory dance. Bro just spiked the football. Haha. I got away with it. And there’s nothing you can do about it. Why don’t you guys chew on that shit until the next episode?” ([18:45])

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Important Timestamps

• [00:48] — Episode opens; Wexner’s deposition context
• [02:06] — Host’s takedown of Wexner’s victim narrative
• [05:30] — Discussion of political performativity
• [07:49] — Congresswoman leaves deposition for press
• [10:12] — Host on financial entanglement and lack of real action
• [11:13] — Lack of substantive questioning, especially on RICO
• [15:00] — Wexner’s self-defense and host’s rebuttal
• [18:45] — Capucci’s closing remarks on Wexner’s impunity

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Tone & Language

Bobby Capucci maintains his trademark candid, impassioned, and often explicit commentary throughout. He spares no one—Democrats, Republicans, or Wexner himself—issuing sharp criticism for hypocrisy, dereliction of duty, and the failure to deliver justice to survivors or the public at large.

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Summary Takeaway:
This episode exposes the underbelly of Congressional posturing around the Epstein scandal, highlighting how elite networks continue to evade real scrutiny. Capucci’s analysis is unsparing, calling on listeners to reject partisan narratives and to focus on real accountability for all of Epstein’s associates—Wexner chief among them.

Transcript

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Nosotros ayugamos. Two ahoras. Mastercano. What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Over the past few months, the House Oversight Committee has had conversations with many different people. And of course, one of those people is Les Wexner. Now, according to Les Wexner, he has no idea why anybody even wanted to talk to him. And according to him, he was nothing more than another victim of Jeffrey Epstein. And the whole entire point, according to him, was for the Democrats to get a photo op. And look, there is some truth to that. There's no doubt that the Democrats are trying to wield this as a weapon against the Republicans, but the Republicans are making it easy for them to do that. How do you come out here and support a dude like Les Wexner? I mean, not a single Republican showed up for this guy's deposition. But all of a sudden, we're talking about performative politics. Let's be real here. If the Republicans cared, they would have been there, too. And this is exactly what I was talking about when all of this first started to bubble. They're going to over politicize it, and they're going to drive a wedge between people and nothing's going to get accomplished and nobody's going to be held accountable. All part of the plan. And if you're somebody that's engaging in that shit, congratulations. You're part of the problem. Today's article is from the Harvard Crimson, and the headline, wexner Calls Congressional Epstein Deposition Silly, says Democrats Used it as a photo op. Leslie H. Wexner, the billionaire retail magnate and best buddy of Jeffrey Epstein, accused House Democrats of turning his February deposition about Jeffrey Epstein into a photo op, saying in a Wednesday interview with the Crimson that lawmakers appeared more interested in the politics of the session than in questioning him. Well, why didn't you go talk to the police right away? Like, Wexner's acting like he's somebody that is being just targeted. Buddy, stop. If this was a real country and we had any real administration running this country for the last four decades, your ass would be in prison. So cut the. You're not fooling anybody here. Oh, woe is me. I'm the victim. Shut your ass up. Wexner, one of Epstein's most prominent clients, sat for a nearly six hour deposition in New Albany, Ohio, as part of the House Oversight Committee's investigation into Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. The committee released video of the deposition the next day. And you know what else? I'm sick of all these voluntary appearances. Well, we're here voluntarily. Well, that's because the committee is worthless. The whole entire thing is a big ass joke now, and I'm getting tired of it. I'm getting tired of the games. I'm getting tired of the fucking clowns, and I'm getting tired of the circus that has come along the second people realize they can monetize this madness. I didn't know anything. I wasn't guilty. Wexner said. I was very happy to give the statement and the deposition to end it all. Yeah, you weren't guilty. That's not what Virginia said. Why didn't you ever sue Virginia? Les Wexner? Maybe it's because you're guilty. I don't know. Could that be it? Could that be a possibility? I know the great Les Wexner would never do anything like that. Human crypt keeper over here. Maybe he wants to talk about Maria instead of Virginia. You know, how you and your security kept her locked in at New Albany? Maybe we want to talk about that. But Wexner said the session quickly became political theater, calling the deposition silly and a nothing burger. Oh, yeah, you know, a nothing burger. Giving Jeffrey Epstein the keys to Victoria's Secret. Nothing burger. Giving Jeffrey Epstein full and unfettered access to your money. Nothing burger. I mean, I guess if the government doesn't use RICO against you, sure. But in the real world, you're getting hit with rico, homie. Your name's getting pulled off all those buildings, and your bitch ass is going to prison. But that's not the world we live in. We live in a world that is vastly unjust. And unfortunately, when the hammer comes down, it usually lands on people like us. Essentially, the whole thing was airtime. Getting on a video, say they did it. Wexner said, I don't think 10 minutes of the questions. 10 questions or 10 minutes of questions were asked by Congress members. It was a photo op. It was asked by the investigators. That's the whole point, Mr. Wexner. And since they weren't direct enough for him, I'll step in and I'll be direct. Hey, Mr. Wexner, did you or did you not rape Virginia Roberts? How about you answer that question, you piece of scumbag? Wexner said he was disappointed in how the Epstein investigation has been politicized and told the Crimson that representatives appeared to lose interest behind closed doors. Oh, I don't doubt that either. If you think for a second that I trust these Democrats that are on this committee, you got a fucking other thing coming. I don't trust any of these people. I haven't trusted them for the last seven years because of this, and I'm not going to trust them anytime soon. And I hate to admit it, but Wexner is not wrong when he says it's performative. For a lot of these people, that's exactly what it is. Remember, a lot of these people had no concerns. They didn't care previously. But now that they feel like they can use it as a political weapon, oh, they care immensely. But look, I'm not naive. I've told you once, and I'll tell you again, I'm willing to ride these people to the finish line. And they don't know this story well enough to not get themselves in trouble. And that goes for both sides, because if you think this is a one sided issue, you have not been paying attention because the writing's on the wall. It's obvious what's going on, and it's rather obvious that nothing is ever going to come of this. Nobody's going to go to prison. I mean, the Republicans didn't even have the time to go and sit when Wexner was sitting to be deposed. But sure, they care so much. And then of course, the Democrats, they didn't ask any real questions, and the investigators either. It's all a dog and pony show. And if it wasn't for the discharge petition, forget it, we would have nothing. Wexner said one female member of Congress looked at her phone during the deposition that then left the room roughly 10 minutes into questioning. Wexner said he initially thought she was leaving to find a bathroom, but later learned she had gone to a nearby pizza shop for a press conference. She got up, and she went about a mile away to a neighborhood pizza place and had a press conference and never came back. Wexner said. Well, she's still a step ahead of the Republicans who never showed up in the first place. Oh, they all showed up for the Clinton hearing, all right. Photo op time, the whole thing and how they do there. That's right. They shit the bed, too. Almost like it's on purpose. Almost like both sides don't want anything to come of this. And look, I know that's not profitable to say, but I don't care. I'm not here to be some kind of Internet influencer. I don't give a fuck. That's why I'm not out here selling you dick pills and a whole bunch of other nonsense. Wexner did not identify the lawmaker by name. Representative Robert Garcia, the committee's ranking Democrat, attended the deposition with Representative Jasmine Crockett, Yasmin Ansari, Steven F. Lynch, Rashida Tlaib, and Dave Min. Wexner appeared to be referencing Ansari, who did hits for CNN and Ms. Now in the middle of the deposition, that's ridiculous. Why is she doing that? Why are you turning it into something that it shouldn't be? And everybody wants to be the main character, right? And how much time has been wasted asking repetitive questions? A whole hell of a lot. And at this point, I have to wonder if both sides are working together behind the scenes to keep the water muddy. A spokesperson for Ansari did not respond to a request for comment. Crockett is audible in the recording of the deposition, asking a question of Wexner. Nearly two hours in, the other Democratic lawmakers who attended the deposition joined Ansari for the press conference. They told reporters that they were not entirely convinced of Wexner's innocence, saying they struggled to believe someone so entangled with Epstein could have been oblivious to his illegal activity. Talib was not present at the press conference. Well, I don't think they're wrong about that. I think that it's obvious that Les Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein were at the very least, entangled financially. And if Jeffrey Epstein was committing one crime financially, okay, one crime that was a RICO predicate, then everybody that was sending or receiving money from his account should have had their accounts frozen just like the rest of us. When I scraped my car in that parking garage, I was worried that it could be a Long process to take care of it. Like a landscaper's first day trimming a hedge maze. I have definitely already been here. Now, was it left, right or right?

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Left.

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The whole entire pussy hat population, they avoided this topic like the plague. When Ghislaine Maxwell was on trial, nobody was showing up to support the girls. Where was all the support? Where were people using their platforms to support them? I'll tell you where, they didn't care. They thought that this was some vast right wing conspiracy. Well, guess what? What do you think now? And sometimes you're going to hear uncomfortable information and you're going to want to say, look, no way. There's no way that's real. There's no way that's true. My side, quote, unquote, would never take part in that. Kind of like what we're hearing about over in the U.K. now, look, if that was just some report written by Rupert Lowe and we had no survivor accounts of what occurred, then I would say, yeah, you could look at that and say, okay, this is a bit political and they're just trying to stir the pot. But one thing that I've learned is when you have this many people coming out telling basically the same story, we should probably listen. Now, that doesn't mean that everybody's telling the truth and that doesn't mean that everything that you're going to read or hear it is true. But I think that when we're talking about something as serious as the allegations in that, that inquiry, I think everybody should at least do themselves the solid of actually looking at it. Right. And going through it. I would not rely on the same people who told you that Jeffrey Epstein was nothing more than a conspiracy theory for years. And that's the point I'm trying to make. Don't let other people color your opinions. If you think something is unjust or you think something is out of bounds and it might not align with your politics, it's okay. You don't have to be an absolutist with your politics. You're allowed to have varying opinions and hold different beliefs. And just because some newscaster or some influencer tells you something, that doesn't mean you have to dance to their tune. Progressive lawmakers have repeatedly accused the Department of Justice of withholding records and failing to fully account for Epstein's relationship with powerful figures. Wexner, for his part, has long denied he knew anything about Epstein's criminal behavior. On Wednesday, he repeated those claims and said Epstein had deceived him, casting himself as a victim of the financier's fraud. Here we go. Les Wexner as a victim. And I'm sure those Republicans that didn't even bother to go talk to him feel the same way. You know, after he donated, what, $250,000 to the Republican Governor's Association. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. Right. Everybody, I'm sure, hired somebody or knew somebody that. That they wish they'd never met. And in this case, it was very painful financially. And then because of his social habits, which I never saw, he said, well, that doesn't jive with what we've heard. Again, ask Maria, and we should probably go back and listen to what Virginia had to say. Right. Wexner also pointed to a question about his campaign contribution to US Senator John Husted as evidence that lawmakers were seeking political fodder. The sound bite was later used by Husted's opponent in his upcoming Senate race, former Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. To tie Husted to Epstein Circle, Wexner suggested he believed the question had been a setup. My friend said they asked you that specific question because they wanted it for a commercial. He said they wanted to get it because they were going to use it in a campaign commercial, which Sherrod Brown is using. Well, that's how politics works. Are we really going to act like the Republicans wouldn't do the same thing? No, I'm not saying I agree with it, but the cat's out of the bag. What I agree with or what I don't agree with doesn't matter. This is now the battlefield and everything is hyper politicized to a point where nothing's going to get done. Brown's campaign spokesperson, Lauren Chao, pointed To more than 116,000 Wexner had donated to Hoosted's campaign in a Thursday statement. Just last year, he took a maximum donation from Epstein's co conspirator and weeks later voted to block the release of the Epstein files, Chao wrote. The record is clear. Wexner said the skepticism from lawmakers was unfair and maintained that the committee staff already knew most of the answers to their questions. He yeah, the committee run by James Comer, right? The fix is in. I'm getting tired of talking about this. I'll tell you what. The committee's Epstein investigation has continued to draw in Harvard affiliates. Last week, House Oversight Chair James Comer asked former law professor Alan Dershowitz to appear for a videotaped interview in Washington, D.C. on July 9 about his knowledge of Epstein's criminal activities. Oh, yeah, another voluntary appearance. And it's all happening with one goal in mind, at least from Comer's point of view. Whatever it takes to try to exonerate Donald Trump, that's it. That's all that matters. Nothing else. And on the other side, all that matters is trying to pin Trump for all of Epstein's crimes. Meanwhile, in the middle, the survivors are the ones getting on again. But I guess that doesn't matter, right? As long as you get your fix of political bloodlust. Earlier that week, Garcia called for former Harvard President Larry Summers to also appear before the committee. Summers, whose extensive personal and academic ties have come under intense scrutiny since the release of emails and records last fall, declined to comment. Through a spokesperson on the letter, Wexner said he had nothing to hide and no fear of being questioned under oath. Oh, yeah, well, of course not under oath. It was voluntary, bro. You're not really under oath. There's no penalties coming here. Every single one of you people have lied to this committee. And what's happened? Nothing. Little slap on the back from James Comer. A steak, maybe a little bourbon. Afterwards, they can all go get fucked. I'm done with all of it. There was no question that I was afraid they were going to ask because. Because there was no question that I could be afraid of. Because I didn't do anything wrong. Hey, Les Wexner, did you or did you not rape Virginia Roberts? Let's get it on the record. Wexner also said he was unlikely to testify before Congress again. Oh, well, he makes that decision. That's nice, huh? Fucking clown. Now they should hit him with a subpoena. Test it. Who runs this country? People like Wexner or the people we all know? And it's certainly not the people. You have rotten cocksuckers like this that get to do whatever they want for as long as they want. And there's never any sort of repercussions? Never. And then to get out here and give this kind of commentary and act like you're the one that's being wrongly maligned and that you're the victim. He's basically doing a victory dance. Bro just spiked the football. Haha. I got away with it. And there's nothing you can do about it. Why don't you guys chew on that shit until the next episode? All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

[A]

We all do it. You have a night for yourself, but don't like the sound of the silence. So you turn on the TV just for the ambiance. It's a little trick that helps you feel like you've got company and aren't alone. And other insurers, well, they may make you feel alone. But when you switch to geico, you've got claims reps available around the clock. So whenever you need, you'll have people around to help. And let's turn on the washing machine just for good measure. Isn't that soothing?

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