Betches Media Co-Founder Sami Sage joins Elise and Jena this week to discuss the systemic flaws to bear in mind as we continue our reading, and why Steve Bannon is a fulcrum in, well, all of this. Plus, context on AG Pam Bondi’s combative testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, the latest fallout from the files, and Jena makes a provocative bet.

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Watch exchange between Ted Lieu and AG Pam Bondi

Sami Sage on Threads

Betches Media

Steve Bannon and Epstein and a global populist movement

Bannon and Epstein on Justice Brett Kavanaugh

The implications of the SCOTUS Chevron decision

Dr. Mark Landon received payments from Jeffrey Epstein

Democracy in Retrograde by Sami Sage and Emily Amick

Jeffrey Epstein and Leon Black

Les Wexner of Victoria’s Secret and Jeffrey Epstein

Morning Announcements podcast

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