File 172 - Google Cached Unredacted Epstein Documents. Victims Faces Became Searchable.

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The Epstein Files – File 172

Episode Title: Google Cached Unredacted Epstein Documents. Victims Faces Became Searchable
Podcast: The Epstein Files
Host/Production: Neural Broadcast Network (NBN.fm)
Release Date: May 5, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, The Epstein Files examines how Google's search engine cached and made accessible unredacted Department of Justice (DOJ) documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. These documents—intended for public release as part of a transparency initiative—contained sensitive and protected materials, including the names, addresses, and photographs of victims, some of whom were minors at the time of the documented abuse. The episode dissects the technical, legal, and ethical ramifications of this digital exposure, raising urgent questions about data privacy, redaction procedures, and the responsibilities of both government entities and technology platforms.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Four Stages of Exposure (01:58–05:50)

• Stage 1: Publication
  • DOJ publishes 3.5 million pages of Epstein-related court documents as unrestricted PDFs.
  • "The format chosen was explicitly designed for maximum public accessibility." (D, 01:58)
• Stage 2: Automated Indexing
  • Google’s crawler immediately scans and indexes the new documents due to the high authority of justice.gov.
  • "It did not cue them for a slow, methodical review. It indexed the content within hours of publication." (D, 03:23)
• Stage 3: Withdrawal
  • DOJ removes the source files only after journalists flag the data exposure. Removal is superficial—URLs return 404 errors, but the content lives on in Google’s cache.
  • "This withdrawal only addressed the source of the publication. It left the subsequent distribution entirely unaddressed." (C, 04:54)
• Stage 4: Retention
  • Cached versions remain globally accessible for days or weeks.
  • "The caching mechanism created a temporal extension of the exposure." (D, 05:37)

Categories of Exposed Victim Data (06:04–06:56)

• 1. Photographic Evidence:
  • Nude photos of minors, faces visible, indexed and searchable.
• 2. Full Names:
  • Included both public and previously unidentified victims.
• 3. Addresses:
  • Personal home addresses cross-referenced from multiple document caches.
• 4. Narrative Content:
  • Detailed, explicit accounts of abuse linked directly to victims’ names.

Technical Anatomy of the Failure (07:17–09:03)

• Redaction Breakdown:
  • DOJ used "cosmetic redaction overlays" (e.g., black boxes on PDFs), which did not actually remove underlying data—Google read and indexed the raw information beneath.
    • "A cosmetic redaction merely places a black vector graphic box over the text or the image layer. The underlying data remains completely intact within the file's code." (D, 07:39)
• Search Synergy:
  • Searchers could combine data from various cached documents to reconstruct complete identification profiles.
    • "You could pinpoint exactly who a survivor was and precisely where they lived simply by leveraging the search engine's cross referencing capabilities." (C, 09:03)

Legal and Technical Mechanisms (09:23–17:13)

• Federal Law Violations:
  • Distribution of such materials is unequivocally illegal (Title 18, USC Section 2252).
    • "Legal definitions require us to look at Title 18...It criminalizes the distribution of child sexual abuse material." (C, 09:38)
• Automated Caching Process:
  • No human review in Google’s cache pipeline; all occurs algorithmically.
• Hash Matching and Gaps:
  • Google’s CSAM (child sexual abuse material) filters rely on hash-matching known material. Newly released evidence from the DOJ was not present in existing hash databases, so automated blocks failed.
    • "The system is blind to zero day evidence." (C, 14:14)

Section 230 and the Safe Harbor Dispute (14:30–18:19)

• Google’s Defense:
  • Claims Section 230(c)(1) immunity as merely an "interactive computer service provider.”
  • Platforms have traditionally been protected from liability for third-party content.
• Plaintiffs’ Argument:
  • Cite Section 230(e)(1), which exempts violations of federal criminal statutes (like CSAM laws) from immunity.
    • "The legal counterargument hinges entirely on the statutory exception found in subsection E1." (C, 16:35)
• Core Legal Question:
  • Does caching and serving contraband sourced from a government transparency error negate safe harbor?
    • "The legal question is whether the automated retention of this material crosses the threshold from passive cataloging into the active distribution of prohibited content." (C, 17:02)

Broader Pattern and Digital Transparency Risks (18:19–22:21)

• Historical Comparison:
  • Previous transparency events (e.g., Warren Commission, Pentagon Papers) were limited by physical distribution, making recalls possible but slow.
• Modern Implication:
  • Digital distribution is immediate and essentially irreversible—mistakes are amplified and become global within hours.
    • "The Internet ecosystem possesses no functional recall button." (D, 20:01)
• Critical QA Failure:
  • Attorneys provided DOJ with a list of 350 names to be redacted; DOJ failed to run even a basic keyword search.
    • "The DOJ failed to run a basic keyword search for these specific individuals against the final document set." (C, 20:40)

Solutions and Forward-Looking Recommendations (22:07–22:35)

• Current Redaction Inadequate:
  • "Traditional masking techniques like cosmetic overlays are fundamentally incompatible with modern text extraction algorithms." (C, 22:07)
• Necessity for Cryptographic Redaction:
  • Future public releases need robust, cryptographically secure redaction methods, verified independently before publication.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"Googlebot is like an army of automated speed readers who instantly memorize the book, photocopy every page, and begin handing out flyers on the street corner before the original publisher even realizes they shoved the wrong material."
— D, [04:08]

"Taking down the source server does not reach into Google’s infrastructure to delete the copies."
— C, [05:16]

"If you possess a list of 350 protected names and you are preparing to publish 3.5 million pages of unredacted evidence, a standard text based query is the most fundamental security protocol available."
— D, [20:47]

"Exhaustive pre publication quality assurance is the only viable defense against permanent exposure."
— C, [21:46]

"A government publication error transforms instantly into a permanent digital exposure."
— D, [20:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Introduction & Stakes | 00:41–01:08| | Four-Stage Timeline of Exposure | 01:58–05:50| | Types of Sensitive Data Exposed | 06:04–06:56| | Technical Redaction Failure Explained | 07:17–09:03| | Legal Statutes and Section 230 Framework | 09:23–17:13| | Historical vs. Digital Transparency | 18:40–20:09| | Detailed Account of DOJ QA Failure | 20:09–21:00| | Redaction/QA Solutions & Conclusions | 22:07–22:35|

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Summary

This episode provides a rigorously sourced, technically detailed, and unsensationalized account of how a DOJ transparency initiative inadvertently led to a large-scale privacy catastrophe for survivors of Epstein’s crimes. It exposes the digital and legal vulnerabilities that arise at the intersection of governmental transparency and search engine technology. The failure of cosmetic redaction and lack of basic pre-publication safeguards resulted in a permanent digital record of victims’ identities, addresses, and abuse, prompting an ongoing legal challenge likely to redefine lawmakers’ and technologists’ responsibilities in the era of mass digital disclosure.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

3 million pages of evidence. Thousands of unsealed flight logs. Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected. You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply could not handle.

[C]

Welcome back to the Epstein Files. Last time we walked through the class action filed against the Department of Justice and Google, the biggest victim privacy case in United States history. Today we're following what happened after the DOJ took the original documents down. Google's crawlers had already indexed them. Cached copies of the unredacted names, addresses and nude photographs of Epstein's survivors remained searchable on Google for weeks after the originals were removed. As always, every document and source we reference is available at the Neural Broadcast Network website. So the DOJ published the documents on January 30. They withdrew them after the New York Times flagged the exposure. But by then Google had already cached everything. The unredacted material, including images that may meet the legal definition of child sexual abuse material stayed in Google's index. This victims faces became searchable.

[D]

The timeline that transformed this redaction failure into a persistent digital exposure event requires systematic analysis. It occurred in four distinct stages, beginning with publication. Stage one commenced when the Department of Justice published 3.5 million pages of documents on justice.gov. the format chosen was explicitly designed for maximum public accessibility.

[C]

They uploaded them as standard Portable Document format files or PDFs.

[D]

Correct. With zero access restrictions were no download limits and no registration requirements of any kind.

[C]

We must examine the scale of that publication. 3.5 million pages is not a physical stack of paper you can easily monitor, as shown in documents released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. The Department's soded objective was total transparency.

[D]

But they executed this release by dropping massive data arrays directly onto a public facing server.

[C]

So if you run a website, you know that the Internet does not wait for human readers to find your content. Stage two involves the automated mechanics of Google's web crawler, designated as Googlebot Right.

[D]

The crawler continuously scans the Internet to index new and updated content. Googlebot operates on an algorithmic hierarchy because

[C]

Google's search algorithms weight government domains like justice.gov as highly authoritative sources. The crawler prioritized these newly uploaded files.

[D]

It did not cue them for a slow, methodical review. It indexed the content within hours of publication. The indexing process extracted text directly from

[C]

the PDF files, which is a critical technical distinction.

[D]

It is it made the text searchable while simultaneously generating cached snapshots stored independently on Google's own server infrastructure.

[C]

This is inconsistent with the government's redaction strategy. The Department of Justice treated the Internet like a physical depository library.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

In a physical library, if you accidentally place the wrong book on a shelf, you can walk back in, take the book off the shelf, and the problem is contained. They completely failed to account for an online ecosystem that automatically copies, indexes, and retains everything it touches.

[D]

Googlebot is like an army of automated speed readers who instantly memorize the book, photocopy every page, and begin handing out flyers on the street corner before the original publisher even realizes they shoved the long material.

[C]

That mechanical reality brings us directly to stage three, the withdrawal phase.

[D]

Right. This phase was not initiated by internal government quality assurance. It was initiated only after journalists at the New York Times notified the Department of Justice that victim information remained accessible beneath superficial cosmetic redactions.

[C]

The department responded by pulling the affected documents offline. This action successfully removed the primary source files from the government servers.

[D]

The URLs returned HTTP4.04, error codes indicating the files were no longer found.

[C]

But according to court filings related to the release, this withdrawal only addressed the source of the publication. It left the subsequent distribution entirely unaddressed.

[D]

The files had already been replicated by automated systems.

[C]

The government's action could not unpublish the material that had already been cataloged by the search engine. Taking down the source server does not reach into Google's infrastructure to delete the

[D]

copies, which initiates stage four, the retention phase. This phase documents the days to weeks window, where cached copies of the cosmetically redacted files remained fully accessible via Google

[C]

Search despite the government's withdrawal of the source documents. Users who searched for specific terms were automatically directed to Google's cached versions, and

[D]

those cached versions contain the exact same exposed content. The caching mechanism created a temporal extension of the exposure.

[C]

The government acted to stop the harm, but the automated systems continued serving the data globally.

[D]

The index shows exactly how extensive this retention period was, as documented in the Transparency filings. This retention period ensured that sensitive material remained available to the public long after the official links returned those error codes.

[C]

We must systematically evaluate the four specific categories of victim data that remain searchable during this retention window.

[D]

The first and most severe category involves the photographic evidence. The cache retained nude photographs of individuals who were minors at the time the images were taken with their faces clearly visible and identifiable.

[C]

The second category includes the full names of survivors. This is not limited to individuals who had already spoken publicly.

[D]

No. The exposed data included individuals who had never been publicly identified in connection with the investigation.

[C]

The third category paired those newly exposed identities with their private home addresses.

[D]

And the fourth category contained highly descriptive narrative content from investigative reports.

[C]

These documents detailed specific instances of sexual abuse, and the cached files link these explicit descriptions directly to the newly exposed names.

[D]

We need to unpack the origin of that photographic evidence. The images that remained searchable through the cache consisted of law enforcement materials seized directly from properties owned by Jeffrey Epstein.

[C]

These seizures occurred during the execution of multiple search warrants. These images were maintained in the federal investigative files specifically because they documented the abuse.

[D]

Federal protocols mandate their total redaction from any public release. But the cosmetic redaction overlays applied by the government failed technically.

[C]

To understand that technical failure, we have to look at how PDF redaction is supposed to function versus how it was executed.

[D]

Here, a proper redaction permanently flattens the document, removing the underlying data from the file architecture.

[C]

Right. A cosmetic redaction merely places a black vector graphic box over the text for or the image layer.

[D]

The underlying data remains completely intact within the file's code. Google's crawler does not read the visual layer as a human does. It reads the underlying code.

[C]

The result was that the photographs were indexed with the victims faces fully visible to the machine and subsequently to the public.

[D]

Because of the way the search engine indexed the surrounding text, these images became directly searchable by the victims names.

[C]

If you ran a standard query for a specific survivor's name during this retention window, the search engine would locate the photographs.

[D]

The search functionality essentially transformed a passive document release into an active targeted identification tool.

[C]

The mechanics of Google's text extraction system demonstrate exactly how this targeting occurred. The system indexed the names and addresses embedded within the PDF files as distinct text strings.

[D]

It then mapped these strings across the search engine's massive database. If you examine the operational flow, an individual could extract a newly revealed name from one cached document on page 50

[C]

and combine it with a residential address indexed from a completely different cached document on page 3000.

[D]

Exactly as shown in documents released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. This process allowed users to compile a complete identification profile.

[C]

You could pinpoint exactly who a survivor was and precisely where they lived simply by leveraging the search engine's cross referencing capabilities.

[D]

Beyond the photographs and the locational data, the descriptive content indexed by the search engine included narrative accounts pulled from victim statements, prosecutorial memoranda, and internal investigative reports.

[C]

These narrative documents explicitly linked specific survivors names to granular descriptions of the sexual abuse they endured. The legal framework surrounding these documents is unambiguous.

[D]

Federal law strictly protects all of these categories.

[C]

Legal definitions require us to look at Title 18 of the United States Code Section 2252. It criminalizes the distribution of child sexual abuse material.

[D]

Furthermore, federal court rules seal witness addresses and grand jury descriptions of abuse.

[C]

This presents a glaring legal paradox. The Department of Justice published these protected categories and Google's caching systems distributed them.

[D]

They effectively created a searchable public database of protected information.

[C]

The technical mechanics of how Google cache operates are central to understanding why this exposure persisted independently of the government's actions. What exactly is the cache system doing when it intercepts a government file?

[D]

Google Cache is a distinct feature of the search infrastructure. It is designed to store snapshots of web pages at the exact moment they were crawled by the automated systems.

[C]

These cached versions reside entirely on Google's server architecture.

[D]

They function completely independently of the original source servers hosted by the government. In the context of this specific exposure event, the caching system functioned as a preservation mechanism.

[C]

It maintained global access to protected victim information long after the Department of Justice attempted to delete the source files.

[D]

The crawl to cache pipeline operates without any human review. It is a strictly automated sequence.

[C]

When the crawler encounters a government document, it immediately downloads the content. It extracts the text into its searchable index and simultaneously stores a timestamped snapshot linked to the search results.

[D]

There is no editorial oversight at any stage of the process. The system process the unredacted investigative files exactly like any routine government press release.

[C]

It applies the exact same automated distribution protocols to a federal indictment as it does to a local weather report.

[D]

As shown in court filings regarding the Epstein Files Transparency act, no personnel reviewed the material before the system integrated the victim data into the global search architecture.

[C]

The persistence mechanics of the caching system dictate exactly what happens when a source URL returns an HTTP 404 error. As we established, this occurred when the government took the files offline.

[D]

But a 404error does not tell the cache to self destruct immediately if you

[C]

run a server, you know that websites experience temporary outages constantly. Google's automated crawl scheduler eventually detects that the source file is missing, but this

[D]

detection does not trigger an immediate deletion of the cached snapshot. The cached copy persists.

[C]

It waits until the next automated crawl cycle either updates the record with new content or permanently purges it due to a persistent error state.

[D]

That mechanical delay created the critical days to weeks exposure windows. It allowed the retained copies to serve protected victim information to the public while the source links were dead.

[C]

The removal process for cached content varies significantly depending on the legal classification of the material being challenged.

[D]

For copyright violations, platforms utilize an automated Digital Millennium Copyright act process. The DMCA system executes takedowns rapidly, often within hours, utilizing automated content identification systems.

[C]

But privacy based removal requests require manual review by legal and policy teams. Attorneys representing the survivors submitted removal requests through this manual privacy channel.

[D]

Court filings describe the response times as operationally inadequate.

[C]

The cache retained this material because these were new images. The manual review process failed to match the speed of the automated distribution.

[D]

Google processes over 8 billion search queries per day. To police solicit material at that scale, the company relies on hash matching technology.

[C]

This technology was developed by the national center for Missing and Exploited Children, or ncmec, to clarify the mechanism.

[D]

A hash is essentially a unique digital fingerprint for a specific electronic file. NCMEC maintains a master database of these digital fingerprints for all known child sexual abuse material.

[C]

When a file is uploaded or indexed, the automated system checks its fingerprint against the NCMEC database. If there is a match, the system blocks the file instantly.

[D]

But the Epstein Files Transparency act documents were entirely absent from these databases. These were newly released law enforcement evidence files that had never been circulated in the public domain before.

[C]

Therefore, they had no digital fingerprints in the NCMEC system.

[D]

Legal definitions require us to recognize that automated systems operating at a scale of 8 billion queries a day cannot preemptively flag newly published government sourced contraband.

[C]

The system is blind to zero day evidence.

[D]

The technological design prioritizes rapid indexing over sensitive content analysis. The system automatically preserved and distributed the material without assessing its legality simply because the algorithmic fingerprint did not yet exist in the registry.

[C]

This mechanical reality introduces the central legal dispute regarding section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

[D]

The court must determine whether safe harbor immunity applies to this specific exposure.

[C]

We must examine the parameters of that statute. Google asserts that section 230, subsection C1, provides total immunity.

[D]

They argue the company operates strictly as an interactive computer service provider, not the publisher of the indexed content.

[C]

Subsection C1 essentially states that no provider of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content.

[D]

The plaintiffs counter this statutory interpretation by citing section 2, 3 0, subsection E1.

[C]

This specific clause explicitly exempts federal criminal statutes from safe harbor protections.

[D]

The statute reads that nothing in section 2, 30 shall be construed to impair the enforcement of any federal criminal statute. The plaintiffs argue this applies directly to the statutes regarding the sexual exploitation of

[C]

children as shown in documents released under the Epstein Files Transparency act the court must resolve a highly specific does caching government published evidence override standard platform immunity?

[D]

Google's legal defense relies heavily on the library analogy. They argue that the search engine is merely cataloging books published by an independent author.

[C]

In this specific factual scenario, the independent author is the Department of Justice.

[D]

Under standard defamation and harmful speech precedents, this library analogy has consistently shielded interactive computer services from liability for third party content.

[C]

If a user uploads a defamatory statement to a message board, the platform hosting the board is generally immune.

[D]

The company contends that this established framework applies equally to government published documents. They position the federal government as the sole information content provider.

[C]

The index shows the search engine simply organized the data provided by the source. They executed their cataloging function without altering the underlying material.

[D]

But the legal counterargument hinges entirely on the statutory exception found in subsection E1.

[C]

The plaintiffs argue that the cached photographs constitute child sexual abuse material under Title 18 and that the act of caching and serving these images constitutes distribution if

[D]

the material meets the criminal definition of CSAM. The specific statutory exception in subsection E1 was designed to strip immunity regardless of who originally provided the first files.

[C]

The legal question is whether the automated retention of this material crosses the threshold from passive cataloging into the active distribution of prohibited content.

[D]

This lawsuit introduces a novel factual scenario that standard platform immunity analysis has never

[C]

previously addressed that does not add up for the defense's standard operational posture. Standard precedence involving Section 2. 30 Focus almost exclusively on content generated and uploaded by private users.

[D]

We are talking about social media posts, blog entries, or online reviews.

[C]

This case forces the court to determine whether a technology platform assumes a heightened duty of care when a federal government transparency program publishes the material.

[D]

If the government inadvertently releases protected law enforcement evidence, the legal framework must determine if the caching entity shares responsibility for the subsequent digital distribution.

[C]

The implications of how the court interprets this statute are massive.

[D]

A ruling in favor of the platform would establish that safe harbor protections apply even to the automated distribution of government published contraband.

[C]

Conversely, ruling that the exception applies would mean that platforms must implement complex manual screening mechanisms specifically tailored for law enforcement and judicial document releases.

[D]

It creates a paradox. You could have illicit material that is strictly exempt from platform immunity if uploaded by a private citizen in a chat room, but fully protected by immunity if indexed from a federal database, as shown

[C]

in court filings related to the Epstein Files. Transparency Act Resolving this statutory contradiction will establish the operational rules for all future

[D]

digital transparency efforts, expanding our scope to the broader pattern. This incident represents the first major government transparency event to intersect with the speed and scale of modern search engine indexing.

[C]

We must compare this to historical document releases. Consider the publication of the Warren Commission Report or the Pentagon Papers.

[D]

Those transparency events occurred in an era where physical distribution inherently limited the speed of public access.

[C]

In those analog scenarios, if an error was identified, the government could initiate a physical recall from depository libraries. It was a slow process, but it was a viable containment strategy.

[D]

The Internet ecosystem eliminated those physical constraints entirely. It replaced bounded physical distribution with instantaneous global access and automated preservation systems.

[C]

The timeline of indexing acceleration demonstrates that the window between a document's publication and its universal searchability has compressed from months to mere hours.

[D]

When the Department of Justice uploaded the files on January 30, Google's high priority crawling protocols ensured the material was permanently integrated into the global search index by the end of the day.

[C]

This acceleration guarantees that any procedural error, such as a failed cosmetic redaction overlay, is immediately amplified across thousands of servers before human operators can even identify the mistake, let alone intervene.

[D]

The Internet ecosystem possesses no functional recall button. A government publication error transforms instantly into a permanent digital exposure.

[C]

The core evidence regarding the government's procedural failure centers on a specific documented communication.

[D]

This communication occurred prior to the January 30th publication date. Attorneys representing the survivors formally provided the Department of Justice with the Precise list of 350 victims.

[C]

They specifically requested that these names be secured and properly redacted prior to the public release.

[D]

The record indicates that the Department completely bypassed this verification step.

[C]

The DOJ failed to run a basic keyword search for these specific individuals against the final document set.

[D]

If you possess a list of 350 protected names and you are preparing to publish 3.5 million pages of unredacted evidence, a standard text based query is the most fundamental security protocol available, as shown

[C]

in documents released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. The failure to execute this elementary quality assurance protocol directly enabled the subsequent indexing of the protected names.

[D]

We can map the exact chain of failure that resulted from this oversight. It begins with the government's operational decision to bypass the pre publication keyword search.

[C]

Because the search was not conducted, the unredacted documents were published directly to the livejustice.gov server.

[D]

This publication immediately triggered the automated crawlers to ingest and index the unprotected data.

[C]

The government's delayed realization of the error led to the withdrawal of the source

[D]

files, but the digital ecosystem's retention protocols ensured the cached copies remained globally accessible.

[C]

This sequence proves that post publication containment is mechanically impossible in the modern search era. Exhaustive pre publication quality assurance is the only viable defense against permanent exposure.

[D]

The operational parameters established by this case will directly govern the processing of the 3 million pages of related material that remain withheld by the government.

[C]

The redaction failures of January 30th demonstrate that traditional masking techniques like cosmetic overlays are fundamentally incompatible with modern text extraction algorithms.

[D]

They are completely defenseless against aggressive web crawling protocols.

[C]

Future releases will require permanent cryptographic redaction methodologies. These methodologies must be verified through multiple independent systems before publication to ensure sensitive data cannot be recovered by automated indexing.

[D]

The resolution of the pending litigation will determine whether the platforms caching this data share the legal burden of ensuring these new protocols are effective. We do not have documentation for that outcome yet, as the courts are still evaluating the section 230 defenses.

[C]

Next time on the Epstein Files Attorneys had given the DOJ a list of 350 victims to redact before the January release. The DOJ never ran a keyword search.

[B]

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