Podcast
The Extraordinary Business Book Club
Hosted by Alison Jones · EN
Alison Jones, publisher and book coach, explores business books from both a writer's and a reader's perspective. Interviews with authors, publishers, business leaders, entrepreneurs, tech wizards, social media strategists, PR and marketing experts and others involved in helping businesses tell their story effectively.
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Episode 494 - Incorruptible with Eric Ries
1w ago00:58:57Tap to summarize'The more successful an organization is, the more valuable it is as a target. So the more golden the goose, the more the temptation to butcher it. We actually create the conditions for our own failure by blindly pursuing success.' Eric Ries wrote the bible for many entrepreneurs: The Lean Startup. But in recent years, he's turned his attention to what happens to startups as they mature - having showed us how to create something worth protecting, he's now focusing on how we protect it once it's built. Why do so many founders who had such a positive vision for their new company, and who achieved such success with that approach, find themselves sidelined or overruled as it slides into mediocrity or even malignancy? The result of his quest to understand this seemingly inevitable, faceless force is a new book, Incorruptible: Why good companies go bad and how great companies stay great. As one of the leading thinkers and activists of our day, Eric discovered the surprisingly simple way to create the infrastructure necessary to reimagine value by founding the Long Term Stock Exchange. And as a tech entrepreneur himself, he has great advice on how to use AI effectively and ethically in the writing process. One of Eric's most fundamental lessons is that trust is the most valuable asset of all, and that applies to your book just as much as your business. NOT an episode to miss - trust me on this.
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Episode 493 - The natural advantage
2w ago00:31:33Tap to summarize'Really paying attention to nature seems to shift something more fundamental... writing can begin to feel a little less effortful and a little more joyful.' You might think that being in nature and writing business books are two entirely unconnected activities. But the annual Write it Wild retreat keeps showing that the first benefits the second in more ways than even I had realised when I first came up with the idea. In this episode I talk to this year's participants about what they're noticing - the dynamic interplay between attention and perspective, between focus and freedom, between structure and flow, between solitude and community, and how all of that is impacting their writing and their state. You don't need to go off into the woods and examine a daisy through a magnifying glass or make fire with flint and steel every time you want to write a decent paragraph, but if you're feeling a bit stuck or a bit joyless, spending a little purposeful time in nature might just make all the difference. And writing that's easier and more joyful for you to write tends to be easier and more joyful for others to read, too.
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Episode 492 - Writing is resistance
3w ago00:24:09Tap to summarize'Unlike the washing up, which I'm perfectly happy to delegate to a machine... I don't WANT to delegate my writing, because that's how I think.' Technology is great at making life easier. But sometimes, easy isn't what we really need. It's hard to resist the siren call of AI as you stare at a blank document: 'Let me write that email/post/book, I can do it really quick and it'll sound super professional.' Or, as it's more likely to put it: 'It's not cheating. It's optimizing for efficiency.' In this episode, I make the case for engaging with the mental heavy lifting of writing in a world determined to lift it for us. Doing the hard things builds capacity and it also, weirdly, makes us happier. Resistance is NOT futile. But it's going to take a bit of work.
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Episode 491 - Future-Fit Innovation with Barbara Salopek
May 400:29:48Tap to summarize' Being creative means having a deep knowledge about anything that you do, because this helps you then to connect those things into new things.' Innovation. You can't sit through a corporate meeting without hearing the word. Everyone thinks they know what they mean by it, and most people are confident that it's someone else's responsibility. There's a department for that, right? In fact, Barbara Salopek argues, innovation is a responsibility for every employee, whether they like it or not, because the deep knowledge required is distributed throughout the business; the 'innovation muscle' has to be built both top down and bottom up throughout all three levels – individuals, teams and the entire organization. She also makes the case that innovation is far broader than most people think: not just shiny new product development (expensive) but also incremental internal process improvements (efficient). Building that kind of innovation culture takes long-term commitment, and it also demands that leaders pay attention to building psychological safety, not just brainstorming. And if you're grappling with your own business book, you need to hear about Barbara's structured approach to conquering what can seem like an insurmountable task.
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Episode 490 - Asking the wrong questions
Apr 2700:43:52Tap to summarize'...The very human tendency to focus on the thing that we think is the problem but isn't actually the thing that needs our attention.' In writing, as in life and work, we often focus on the question that looks obvious: How do I write this quickly? How do I find the time? How do I tell my story? How do I get feedback? But very often, there's a better question behind the one we're asking. In this Best Bits episode I look at some of the most common wrong-question traps that authors fall into, and explore the deeper, more useful questions behind them that can transform not just the book, but the author too. Hear from: Kevin Anderson on why AI is a terrible answer to the 'how can I write my book quickly' question Chris Lovett on 'finding' [sic] time to write Amy Cantin on writing to make readers feel capable, not impressed Ian Pettigrew on telling your story without making it the point of your book Paolo Gaudiano on starting with what your reader cares about (rather than what you want to tell them) Helen Beedham on testing your argument rather than simply strengthening it Becky Westwood on what to do with feedback once you have it Alison Jones on why, for business book authors, it's not just about the book. Luckily, writing is itself a great way to find better questions...
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Episode 489 - Books and learning with Amy Cantin
Apr 2000:27:27Tap to summarize'Readers don't finish books that make them feel impressed by someone with a lot of experience or success. They finish books that make them feel capable.' Does the book still have a place in next-generation corporate learning platforms? You bet. Amy Cantin of Skillsoft talks me through the evolution of organizational learning, and the ways in which business books underpin the various summaries, webinars, AI simulations and social learning opportunities they offer their corporate clients to ensure not only that every employee keeps learning, but that they are able to learn in the way that suits them best. There are great tips here on how to write a book that's truly transformational for professional development, and a reminder that while the learning landscape has evolved, books remain the fullest expression of the ideas that shape work-life, and authors are still central to the learner's experience.
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Episode 488 - The 10th birthday podcast party
Apr 1300:33:39Tap to summarize'If there's one thing that this podcast has reinforced for me over the last 10 years, it is that books and the people who write them matter.' It's almost a decade to the day since I first pressed 'record' and launched this podcast into the world (and you might be amused to find out the real reason behind it). In this 10th birthday episode I'm taking a moment to look back on the ambition and anxiety behind that moment, and reflect on how much has changed, and what hasn't, for writers and readers of business books. I've also put together 10 super-practical lessons I've learned over that time, for anyone grappling with their own ambition and anxiety in the face of starting something new. I welcome back my very first guest and have a moment with 2016 Alison, as we look forward to whatever the next 10 years will bring. Whether you've been listening since that first episode or just discovered The Extraordinary Business Book Club, you're part of something really special, and a way of being and thinking that's taken on existential meaning for us over the last decade - as individuals and as a society.
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Episode 487 - Measuring Inclusion with Paolo Gaudiano
Mar 2300:35:58Tap to summarize'Inclusion is what you do and diversity is what you get.' Paolo Gaudiano's expertise ranges from rocket science through computational neuroscience to the really tough work: diversity, equity and inclusion in organizations. It's not got any easier over the last couple of years, but it's not got any less important, either. Paolo simply points to the evidence: focusing on improving workplace experiences for all employees leads not only to happier people but also to better business outcomes. His book - Measuring Inclusion: Higher profits and happier people, without guesswork or backlash - was named International Business Book of the Year at the Business Book Awards in 2025. We also talk about the power and perils of language, the concept of 'gateway words', and the importance of recognizing that the words that work for you might not work for others...
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Episode 486 - Going All In at the London Book Fair
Mar 1600:29:55Tap to summarize'If you're into it, read into it.' Fresh (sic) from the London Book Fair, this week's episode brings together perspectives from across the industry on the National Year of Reading campaign. Does reading even still matter? [Spoiler alert: it matters more than ever!] And how can we - as an industry and as individuals - encourage people to do more of it, given all the competing demands on their attention? As well as finding out what's happening in the industry, learn how you can join the movement to make reading a more intentional, joyful part of your everyday life, and I'm not just talking about business books. Your attention is under siege like never before - reading is a radical act of resistance, as well as a practice of self-development, a powerful way of supporting your wellbeing and the best route to becoming a better writer.
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Episode 485 - People Glue with Helen Beedham
Mar 900:32:43Tap to summarize'If you love somebody, set them free,' advised Sting back in 1985. Little did he know he was setting out a core principle of leadership for the 21st century. It's the big idea behind award-winning author Helen Beedham's second book People Glue: Hold on to your best people by setting them free, which leans into that paradox with rather more by way of helpful detail than the Police front man ever provided. Through rigorous research and conversations with top CEOs she has identified four key freedoms that top talent most values, and also the anti-freedom forces that most frequently prompt them to walk out of the organizational door. We also talk about what it means to write a second book – why WOULD you put yourself through that again? And what might you do differently second time around?
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