The Fame Game with Heidi & Spencer

Episode: Balancing Dreams, Family, and Faith: Moving Forward Together
Date: November 13, 2025

Brief Overview

In this episode, Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt (frequently referring to themselves by their Hills-era nicknames, 'Speidi') invite listeners into a candid, playful, and deeply personal conversation. The episode oscillates between humorous pop culture takes, honest discussions about trauma and rebuilding after the Palisades fire, their evolving roles as parents, updates on music and business ventures, and reflections on faith, fame, and the quirks of modern celebrity life. It’s classic Speidi: irreverent but earnest, with signature banter, behind-the-scenes revelations, and a shared commitment to turning adversity into strength.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The New Chapter & Podcast Rebrand

• Rebranding their Narrative:
  • Spencer and Heidi reflect on moving past old stigmas from their reality TV past, shifting from being known as “fame whores” to actively shaping their new identity ([01:07]).
  • Spencer humorously discusses how new fans are sometimes unaware they are even married, highlighting Heidi’s fresh wave of recognition ([00:34]).
  • “To have this whole new rebirth…that was one of the main themes in my book…to have contributed to that rebranding.” – Heidi ([01:07])
• Podcast’s Evolving Tone:
  • The couple affirms the podcast’s shift to a “family-friendly” space focused on fun, pop culture, parenthood, and personal growth ([06:04]).
  • Spencer: “This is like a space cadet podcast…you don’t need to get stressed out. You’re not trying to hear people cry. This is fun…” ([06:04])
  • The new format is positioned as lighter, entertaining, and suitable for everyday listening.

2. Faith, Criticism, and Crystals

• Managing Online Criticism:
  • Spencer responds sharply to criticism from some in the Christian community regarding his work with crystals, pointing out the irony of religious critics using quartz-screened smartphones ([01:52]).
  • “If you’re so concerned about me promoting rocks…you probably should not own an iPhone because it’s a quartz crystal…crazy AI meme demons are popping out of your phone.” – Spencer ([02:22])
• Faith as Grounding:
  • Both hosts frequently reference prayer and spirituality as tools for coping with recent challenges and moving forward ([05:04]).

3. Rebuilding, Loss, and Healing – The Palisades Fire Aftermath

• Heidi shares the emotional complexity of returning to the empty lot where their home once stood, describing it as both comforting and devastating ([04:14]).
• The ongoing struggle to “move forward emotionally, physically, spiritually, mentally,” even as reminders of the loss remain present ([04:52]).
• Community connection: Many neighbors never returned after the fire, unable to face the devastation ([05:04]).
• Heidi, on finding silver linings: “I think this was the perfect time to be able to go there and…leave it on a more productive, business, fun…note than just complete destruction.” ([05:04])

4. Parenthood Realness

• Balancing Work and Family:
  • Between music projects, podcasting, and parenting, Heidi expresses the challenge of time management and being present for her kids ([05:47]).
• Sports Parenting and Rule Changes:
  • Spencer discusses frustrations with youth soccer regulations that limit parental guidance during games ([14:09]).
  • “One of my hardest things as a parent right now is not helping him during his soccer games…if he sees a gopher…he’s easily distracted.” ([13:46])
• Channeling Negative Emotions:
  • After battling emotional eating following trauma, Spencer now encourages his sons to “turn frustration into something productive—do some pushups, jumping jacks” instead of resorting to unhealthy habits ([12:38]).

5. Entertainment & Pop Culture Hot Takes

• Heidi’s TV Recommendations ([07:27]):
  • Paul American ("feels like I'm watching my adult sons") - highlights strong family relationships and mutual support among the Paul brothers.
  • America’s Sweethearts and new Megan Margo cooking show – “relaxing, calm, family friendly, inspiring.”
  • Chrissy Teigen’s show – makes her want to DIY everything, “like making my own scarf from 100 dyes in the garden.”
• Spencer’s TV Corner ([10:55]):
  • Enjoying a new Apple+ show set in Alaska; compares it to “the new Con Air.”
  • His treadmill watching habits are tied to his personal fitness goals and body transformation ([11:21]).
• Dancing with the Stars Commentary ([24:27]):
  • Spencer claims credit for suggesting Alex Earl as Val’s partner and muses on the “TikTokification” of professional dancers’ social media presences: “You need to do this for your family. Now he’s like, one of the best tiktokers there is.” ([25:14])
  • Discussion on fairness and fan dynamics regarding pro dancers on the show versus less-experienced celebrities ([27:12]).

6. Personal Projects: Books, Music, and Business

• Spencer’s Upcoming Book:
  • Legal hurdles make the process intense: “You wouldn’t believe how concerned my publisher is that everyone is going to sue me.” ([20:12])
  • He jokes about going to Pepperdine Law School alongside their sons, blending family dreams with new ambitions ([20:59]).
• Heidi’s Music Comeback:
  • New album nearly complete, with a professional manager taking some of the burden off Spencer ([21:55]).
  • Focus on nailing album visuals & art before collaborators leave for Europe ([23:06]).
  • “That’s a piece of my music we’ve always had to…take one step at a time…now it feels like there’s someone in the game with us.” – Heidi ([22:32])
• Pratt Daddy Crystal Biz:
  • Spencer references reopening the business and facing renewed scrutiny from some communities ([01:52]).
• Spencer’s Health Journey:
  • Update on mysterious skin rash resolved with new meds and lifestyle changes—cutting out alcohol and increasing physical activity ([17:12]).

7. Hollywood Tea: Encounters & Gossip

• Celebrity Run-ins:
  • Heidi and Spencer gush over meeting model Abby Champion and Patrick Schwarzenegger at dinner, expressing support for supportive couples like themselves ([31:41]).
  • Heidi: “You’ve really inspired a new generation of supportive boyfriends, husbands…if I don’t have a man who supports me like Spencer does, I don’t want him.” ([32:41])
• Kevin Federline's Book Story ([34:33]):
  • Recalling old Malibu days with Britney Spears’ then-husband, Spencer tells a behind-the-scenes tale about being asked to promote K-Fed’s new book—an offer he declines due to its current controversy.
  • “I got enough negativity in my comment sections from the people that believe in climate change burning the policies down. I’ll need to add Britney [Spears] stans…” – Spencer ([37:09])

8. Taylor Swift, Easter Eggs, and Closing Thoughts

• Taylor Swift Shout-Out:
  • Spencer shares his delight at receiving exclusive Showgirl shorts from Taylor Swift’s office after worrying TK might not have his address post-fire ([28:19]).
  • Both hosts share deep affection for the “Showgirl” album, with Heidi moved to tears by some tracks ([29:44]).
  • “Her music is like a reality show…this one was just about her finding the love of her life…” – Heidi ([30:57]).
• Speculation on Lyrics:
  • Playful theorizing about Taylor’s song “Canceled” being about Blake Lively ([38:31]), and joking suggestions that other songs might secretly reference Spencer’s love of crystals ([38:46]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you’re so concerned about me promoting rocks…you probably should not own an iPhone because it's a quartz crystal.” – Spencer ([02:22])
• “The devastation and destruction is left there. And it's challenging, going through the town…A lot of people haven’t come back.” – Heidi ([04:14])
• “This is supposed to be fun…be on the treadmill, get caught up on random things. This is like a space cadet podcast.” – Spencer ([06:04])
• “My goal is by the time I’m on set of this one day movie with James Franco, that they have to write all my scenes with my shirt off because I’m so ripped.” – Spencer ([11:21])
• “Just channel that energy into something productive…take a negative and make it a positive.” – Spencer, on parenting approach ([12:38])
• “That was so great, that people could see that side [of your support]…If I don’t have a man who supports me like Spencer does, I don’t want him.” – Heidi ([32:41])
• “I’m definitely not posting K Fed’s book—got enough negativity in my comment sections…don’t need Britney stans!” – Spencer ([37:09])
• “Her music is like a reality show in her music. And so this one was just about her, like, really finding the love of her life.” – Heidi, on Taylor Swift’s album ([30:57])
• “We just had things come up. We just had a pause. We were like, we were busy for a minute…we had a pioneer pause.” – Heidi ([40:01])

Important Timestamps

• 00:17 – Heidi and Spencer introduce the new podcast location and vibe
• 01:07 – Discussing stigma, rebranding, and Spencer’s contribution
• 04:14 – Heidi on emotional challenges after the Palisades Fire
• 06:04 – Announcing the podcast’s new, lighter format
• 07:27 – Heidi’s new favorite TV shows and pop culture obsessions
• 11:21 – Spencer’s treadmill TV habit, fitness goals, and body positivity
• 12:38 – Parenting lessons: channeling negative emotions into exercise
• 14:09 – Soccer league rules and frustrations with parenting from the sidelines
• 17:12 – Spencer’s health update: rash, sobriety, and big production meetings
• 20:12 – Legal challenges of memoir publishing
• 21:55 – Heidi’s music comeback and the role of professional management
• 24:27 – Dancing with the Stars social media debate
• 28:19 – Taylor Swift’s care package and album discussion
• 32:41 – Internet praise for Spencer’s public support of Heidi
• 34:33 – Kevin Federline book saga
• 38:31 – Taylor Swift’s song “Canceled” and celebrity lyric speculation
• 40:01 – Reflection on their podcasting legacy and planned return

Conclusion

Episode highlights include direct, vulnerable talk about rebuilding after trauma, Speidi’s trademark wit and hot takes on pop culture, inspiring and practical parenting tips, behind-the-scenes glimpses into music and showbiz, and affectionate jabs at their own fame. This installment of The Fame Game is a blend of fun, realness, and resilience—inviting listeners in as the Pratts balance ambition, family, and faith with candor and humor.