The Fame Game with Heidi & Spencer

Episode: "Fame, Fashion & THAT Lube Incident: Celebrity Stylist Tumas Zarskus Unfiltered"

Release Date: October 16, 2025
Guests: Celebrity Stylist Tomas (Tutu) Zarskus
Hosts: Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag
Podcast Network: Studio71

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the glitzy, unpredictable world of celebrity styling with special guest Tomas Zarskus—affectionately known as Tutu. Spencer and Heidi, in their signature raw, lively style, chat with Tomas about life behind the red carpet, wild wardrobe malfunctions (including a now-infamous lube incident), the nuances of style for the famous, and how faith, resilience, and “the vortex” of fame forge unbreakable bonds—and killer looks. From career beginnings, inspiration, and major pop-culture moments to AI and Amazon hacks, nothing is off limits.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. How Tomas Met Speidi & Broke Into Star Styling

[02:03–04:59]

• Tomas describes his journey from watching Heidi & Spencer on "The Hills" to manifesting a collab after reposting Heidi's "Wet Hot Summer" track on Instagram.
• He instantly connected with the Y2K vibes of their music and fashion, leading to his styling gig for a campaign which became a game-changer.
• “You pulled me out of that…side of my job and pulled me into your world, which I love. And it’s been amazing ever since.” – Tomas ([03:47])

2. The Realities & Stress of Styling—On Stage, On Tour, and On Carpet

[04:59–08:46]

• Spencer marvels at Tomas’ experience, explaining how “people don’t realize there’s different types of styling”—music performances, stage, red carpet, streetwear.
• “You know, even if you get things altered, you have to re-alter it sometimes.” – Spencer ([06:39])
• Wardrobe malfunctions (zippers, buttons, backup outfits) are routine: “If you don’t have a backup, then you’re screwed.” – Tomas ([07:21])
• Both highlight the importance of adaptability and faith when everything goes sideways.

3. Legendary Latex & ‘The Lube Incident’

[08:46–10:21]

• Heidi recounts her favorite fashion malfunction: a latex outfit in Canada that required lube for shine, only to discover they'd forgotten it. Chaos ensues as clubgoers are enlisted to find more.
• “Everyone’s running around this lovely gay nightclub asking everyone for lube…” – Heidi ([09:12])
• “Like, I’m going on stage without the lube! …And I’m going on right now.” – Spencer ([09:32])
• Tomas improvises with anything at hand to keep the show on the road—ultimately, “nobody knew but you.” – Heidi ([10:09])

4. Fashion Philosophy: Building Visual Stories

[11:18–14:25]

• Spencer admits he’s skeptical of Tomas’ wilder racks, but always ends up loving the vision: “I always reserve my judgment to put it on because…there have been so many things...” ([11:40])
• Tomas stresses the importance of letting clients try everything—“The clothes don’t wear you. You wear the clothes.” – Tomas ([12:20])
• Favorite designers? Tomas name-drops Glenn Martens, Alexander McQueen, and Margiela—though “it’s fun to see what designers create under different houses and for themselves” ([13:47]).

5. Family, Roots, and Style Inspiration

[14:25–15:53]

• Tomas’ mom was a major influence—always in heels, “full beat” makeup, a born artist.
• Childhood memories: “I was playing with dolls and making dresses for my dolls…wanting to play dress up as a kid because I thought it was beautiful.” ([14:40])

6. Best-Dressed Icons & Red Carpet Standouts

[16:16–17:10]

• Heidi asks who inspires Tomas:
  • He praises Jenna Ortega's styling (“She looks so good. Her team is doing a fabulous job with her.” – Tomas [16:49])
  • Longtime employer Brett Allen Nelson and Doja Cat’s “consistently fire” looks.

7. Signature Looks, AMAs ‘Wig Gate,’ and Fashion Risks

[18:29–25:57]

• Tomas shares his favorite Heidi looks (Canada’s Britney latex, London performance, famed Billboard carpet moment).
• On AMAs “wig gate”: There’s pride regardless of negative feedback—“We liked it and we stand behind our choices.” – Spencer ([20:12]), “The wig was a wig. And that’s it.” – Tomas ([22:31])
• Tomas explains the intent: turning tragedy (their home burning down) into “blue flame” symbolism—a bold, Hunger Games-like vision ([21:49]).
• They discuss how unpredictability adds authenticity and layers to public “eras.”

8. Branding & Evolving the ‘Pop Look’

[25:57–29:22]

• Spencer’s manager suggests a “signature era,” but the team prefers switching it up, embracing a spectrum of “Barbie” looks—hiking Barbie, business Barbie, etc.
• “High-end fantasy escapism, expensive Barbie, pretty much” is their style thesis ([28:07]).

9. Resilience, Faith, and Perspective Amid Tragedy

[29:24–33:04]

• Reminiscing about pre-fire home energy, celebrating each success: “In such a tragedy, it all started kind of, like, working out…It’s only getting better.” – Tomas ([30:12])
• Commentary on God, affliction, and finding blessings in hardships:
  • “God does some of his greatest works in affliction…there can be a blessing in it.” – Spencer ([31:57])

10. Reality TV Obsessions & Guilty Pleasures

[33:04–35:05]

• Tomas is a reality TV fanatic (favoring Real Housewives of Salt Lake City); he loves chaos, fighting, and “misunderstood women.”
• “Woman screaming and fighting is my favorite thing in the world. It’s like music to my ears.” – Tomas ([35:05])

11. Dreams, Work, and Philosophy on Success

[35:26–37:14]

• For the future, Tomas wants to stay in styling but keep it “multifaceted”—and maybe revisit hospitality. Simplicity, humility, and accessibility matter in both food and style.

12. Amazon Fashion Hacks & Wardrobe Building

[39:15–40:56]

• Amazon is their inside secret—Tomas says, “Everyone in the industry does it.” (Amazon jumpsuits, shoes, and basics—Tomas calls them “beaters.”)
• Tips: Build outfits around a key piece (tank, jeans, accessories); know your body and stick with cuts that flatter you ([41:21], [42:48]).

13. Dressing Up, Confidence, and Self-Presentation

[42:55–44:28]

• Dress your best, make the effort for yourself and your loved ones.
• “Dressing up is how you present yourself to the world. If you look presentable and cute and hot, I feel like society favors that more…It’s just the truth.” – Tomas ([43:43])

14. AI, ChatGPT, and the Fast-Paced World

[47:10–51:25]

• The group debates AI. Tomas is addicted to ChatGPT (“I view ChatGPT as the God’s creation,” [48:14]), but the others are more wary, especially about misinformation and kids’ technology use.
• “They gather all the information from credible sources, which aren’t credible.” – Tomas, on AI’s limits ([50:35])

15. Parenthood and Screen Time

[52:01–52:47]

• They touch on raising kids in a digital world, balancing screen time, and tools like “kids’ phones.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “You pulled me out of that…side of my job and pulled me into your world, which I love.” – Tomas ([03:47])
• “If you don’t have a backup, then you’re screwed.” – Tomas ([07:21])
• “Everyone's running around this lovely gay nightclub asking everyone for lube…” – Heidi ([09:12])
• “The clothes don’t wear you. You wear the clothes.” – Tomas ([12:20])
• “We liked it and we stand behind our choices.” – Spencer, on “wig gate” ([20:12])
• “The wig was a wig. And that's it.” – Tomas ([22:31])
• “In such a tragedy, it all started kind of, like, working out…It’s only getting better.” – Tomas ([30:12])
• “God does some of his greatest works in affliction…there can be a blessing in it.” – Spencer ([31:57])
• “Women screaming and fighting is my favorite thing in the world. Like, it’s like, music to my ears.” – Tomas ([35:05])
• “Dressing up is how you present yourself to the world…It’s just the truth.” – Tomas ([43:43])
• “I view ChatGPT as the God’s creation.” – Tomas ([48:14])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:03–04:59: How Tomas met Spencer and Heidi, breaking into celebrity styling.
• 08:46–10:21: The infamous latex “lube incident” in Canada.
• 18:29–22:56: Favorite Heidi looks, AMAs “wig gate,” and high-stakes red carpet decision-making.
• 29:24–33:04: Reflections on tragedy, faith, and finding purpose after losing their home.
• 39:15–41:21: Amazon hacks for building a stylish wardrobe on a budget.
• 47:10–51:25: ChatGPT, digital life, and generational shifts.

Final Thoughts

This episode is a rollercoaster of fashion storytelling, insider mishaps, spiritual life, and hilarious, candid banter. It’s equal parts a masterclass in celebrity style and a real-life lesson on staying positive—and stylish—no matter what chaos fame (or latex) brings.

Social Handles:

• Follow Tomas: @TomasZarskus on Instagram
• Shop Heidi’s merch and music: prattdaddy.com & iTunes

Next Week: More candid chaos, style secrets, and Speidi shenanigans!