The Fame Game with Heidi & Spencer

Episode: RERUN - Heidi Debuts New Song ‘ICON’ and Spencer Goes to Washington, D.C.
Release Date: December 25, 2025
Hosts: Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag

Episode Overview

In this rollercoaster episode, Spencer and Heidi—the legendary "Speidi" duo—kick back in their bedroom and deliver their signature candid banter. With Heidi set to premiere her new song “ICON” in Vancouver, and Spencer preparing for a whirlwind trip to Washington, D.C. to fight for fire victims' rights, nothing is off-limits. The episode delves into their personal struggles post-Palisades fire, Heidi’s musical comeback, Spencer’s legal crusade, dreams of rebuilding (or relocating), relationship insights, reality TV reflections, and a playful couples' quiz. If you crave real Hollywood tea, raw resilience, and memorable laughs, you’re home.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Heidi's Music Comeback: Debut of "ICON"

• Vancouver Performance: Heidi shares excitement and nerves prepping for her “ICON” debut, written by Madison Love and produced by Colin Love.
  • "I've been at rehearsal several times this week. Really hitting it hard because I'm so excited for these new vocals." —Heidi (03:09)
  • Heidi highlights the personal connection to the song, calling it her "best performance song" (15:53).
• Rehearsal Realness: Describes rehearsal setbacks, self-doubt, and supportive words from coaches.
  • "Enrique said to me at the end, he's like, you're doing so well. I just want to continue pushing you as an artist and not letting you just reside where you are..." —Heidi (03:37)
• Physical Struggle: Reveals she pulled a rib during prep, making breathing difficult (03:39).

2. Spencer’s Legal and Political Showdown: Fighting Fire Negligence

• Backstory: Their home (and Spencer’s parents’ home) was lost in the Palisades fire. Spencer describes his delayed but now unleashed campaign for accountability.
  • "I was always waiting to unleash my own firestorm at the people responsible for allowing our house and town and my parents house to burn to the ground." —Spencer (04:48)
• Retraction Demand: Plans to send a legal letter to the LA Times for labeling him a conspiracy theorist regarding fire risks and developer interests.
  • "If I'm a conspiracy theorist, that would make, I guess, Newsom one too, if he's filing an executive order." —Spencer (05:34)
• D.C. Mission: Scheduled meetings with:
  • Department of Justice (re: corruption and fire aid misuse)
  • Secretary of Agriculture (fire prevention reform)
  • IRS (tax relief for fire victims)
• Refuses White House Visit: Wishes to avoid politicizing his advocacy (08:52).
• Public Figure Law Gripe: Frustration over limited legal recourse for defamation as a public person (06:34).

3. Family Life In Limbo: Rebuilding and Relocating

• Post-Fire Uncertainty: Shared grief and confusion about whether to rebuild in Pacific Palisades or move to Santa Barbara.
  • "It's hard deciding where to live and your life is so up in the air... I do love Santa Barbara. Like, the kids are so happy there." —Heidi (12:22)
• Financial Realities: Discussion of SBA loans, limited insurance, Santa Barbara house prices (10:46, 12:00).
• Manifestation & Crystals: Spencer believes their property’s crystal energy will help manifest abundance and a successful podcast (13:08).
• Dreaming Big: Hopes the podcast achieves Juicy Scoop/Call Her Daddy-level success to fund rebuilding AND a Santa Barbara move (13:08).

4. Relationship Real Talk & The “Cosmopolitan Couples Quiz”

A fun, light-hearted quiz reveals relationship quirks and deep connection:

• Favorite Drink: Heidi’s—tequila or Champagne; Spencer’s—varies, but tequila is queen (18:43).
• Best & Worst Habits: Heidi’s pet peeve: messes in the house; Spencer’s: unread messages (20:18).
• Celebrity Crush: “Heidi Montag.” —Spencer (21:30)
• Iconic “The Hills” Moments: Heidi: “Get out of my car” for Spencer; “Saying ‘I do’ at our wedding” as her own (21:52).
• Reality TV Regrets: Agree “The Hills” had its downsides. Spencer wished he’d stuck to being behind the camera, but welcomed all future reality TV offers (22:57).
• Ultimate Tagline: “Spidey's gonna get you. Don’t count Spidey out... Spidey will survive.” —Heidi & Spencer (25:31)

5. Hollywood & Pop Culture Updates

• Heidi’s TV Missed Opportunity: Revealed she was considered (but passed over) to appear as a friend on ‘Real Housewives of Beverly Hills’ (27:15–28:02).
• Streaming Picks: Enjoyed “The Waterfront” (“a violent Dawson’s Creek”—Heidi, 16:40), and “Hot Shot” the wildfire doc.
• Potential Biopic Casting: Heidi picks Chris Pratt or Reese Witherspoon; Spencer dreams of Sam Elliott as a grizzled older version of himself (28:17–29:10).

6. Parenthood & Healing After Trauma

• Kids’ Strengths: Their sons inherited Heidi’s musical energy and Spencer’s love for nature (30:21–31:10).
• Spencer’s Health: His eczema, triggered by toxins from the fire, is finally improving (09:23).
• Coping with New Disasters: Recent tsunami scare reignites trauma after their fire loss, with Heidi reflecting on faith and early warning signs (33:29–35:00).

7. Looking Ahead: New Projects & Ambitions

• Heidi’s Song Launch: “ICON” drops December 21 (15:53).
• Spencer’s Book: Pre-order campaign announced; promises juicy stories, insider info, and ongoing updates as the saga continues (36:09–36:47).
• Potential Documentary: Spencer in talks with an Oscar-winning production company for a fire and recovery doc (35:51).
• Podcast Growth Hopes: Spencer envisions podcast studios and cross-platform expansion as they look to rebuild both life and brand (13:08–13:28).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fame and Resilience:
  "Don’t count Spidey out. Spidey will survive.” —Heidi & Spencer (25:31)
• Heidi’s Song Prep:
  “I'm so excited for these new vocals. I have my new song today. I had a sound check with the choreography, and it was really hard. I was 40 minutes late...Yeah, it was intense, that's for sure." —Heidi (03:09)
• On Dealing with Public Figure Status:
  "The one problem with being [a public figure] is you have no legal protections... You can pretty much be defamed or slandered." —Spencer (06:34)
• On Manifesting a Comeback:
  "I'm telling you for the first time, is this podcast becomes so successful...these type of people can build on their lot and they can buy a house in Santa Barbara." —Spencer (13:08)
• On Reality Rumors:
  “I think the only thing I didn’t like...people thought we were a fake couple. I think I was more entertained...Like, really? You guys think we're a fake couple living together for this long?" —Heidi (22:36)
• Re: Biopic Fantasy Casting:
  “Chris Pratt. You have the same last name...Sam Elliott to play me. I want to do an old version. Like I'm 70, still fighting California.” —Heidi & Spencer (28:28)
• On Facing Disaster Trauma:
  "When you’re in this still survival mode and trauma from just having lost everything...everything in a natural disaster...I prayed about it too and I feel like God spoke to my heart. Like, ‘be still. It’s going to be okay.’" —Heidi (33:55)
• On the Power of Humor:
  “Your sense of humor is this point—if we weren't laughing at our lives [it would] be very depressing...You’re a real light honey.” —Spencer (31:46)

Important Timestamps

• Heidi’s rehearsal struggles and support: 03:09–04:21
• Spencer’s fire lawsuit, legal retaliation, & D.C. journey: 04:48–09:20
• Home rebuilding vs. moving debate: 11:21–13:08
• Podcast dreams & manifesting with ‘crystal energy’: 13:08–14:17
• Cosmopolitan Couples Quiz fun: 18:22–24:03
• Heidi’s ‘ICON’ launch date: 15:53
• Missed RHOBH casting: 27:15–28:14
• Tsunami scare & reflections on trauma: 33:27–35:00
• Spencer’s documentary and book news: 35:51–36:47

Tone & Style

As always, Heidi and Spencer’s conversation is equal parts irreverent, heartfelt, and self-aware—mixing tabloid nostalgia, pop culture savvy, and the raw complexity of surviving fame’s highs and lows. Their self-deprecating humor (“Worse than cockroaches. Spidey will survive.”—25:31) and mutual admiration ground the dramatics, giving listeners both celebrity spectacle and authentic connection.

For First-Timers

If you’re new to Speidi, this episode is the perfect snapshot: hilarious, unfiltered, and touching—a testament to their ability to turn adversity into “the fame game.” Expect laughs, a little inside gossip, and a lot of heart.

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