The War on Trash in Los Angeles and How We Will Fix It with Juan Naula

Summary

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The Fame Game with Heidi & Spencer

Episode: The War on Trash in Los Angeles and How We Will Fix It (with Juan Naula)
Date: March 12, 2026
Guests: Juan Naula ("Trash Angel"), hosted by Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag

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Episode Overview

This engaging episode dives into the mounting trash crisis in Los Angeles, featuring special guest Juan Naula—known online as the "Trash Angel." Juan shares his journey from Ecuador to LA, how he became a one-man cleaning force, the dire state of city sanitation services, and his vision for a cleaner, safer city. The conversation is peppered with Speidi’s trademark humor, candid frustrations, and heartfelt appreciation for grassroots activism, while also outlining potential political solutions—including Spencer’s own plans as an (aspiring) mayoral candidate.

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Key Discussion Points & Takeaways

1. Introducing Juan Naula – LA's Trash Angel

[01:35] Spencer introduces Juan, emphasizing his grassroots impact:

"This guy right here has done more to clean the streets of Los Angeles than our entire city... The mayor, nobody. But this guy right here—he's a hero, an angel."
Juan shares his backstory, leaving Virginia for Los Angeles in 2024, being shocked by the city’s trash problem, and deciding to take direct action: "When I got here, it really shocks me to see trash: parks, alleys, street, homeless... So I make a decision one day, went to Home Depot, get gloves, get the trash picker, and started cleaning.” [02:47]

2. The Reality of Cleaning LA's Streets

[03:46 - 08:30]

• Juan describes practical and emotional challenges—needles, hazardous waste, lack of city support—drawing on his construction and tech background.
• He takes solo action weekdays, runs “Mingas” (from Kichwa for ‘community work’) every Saturday with up to 35 volunteers.

“Every day solo. And then on Saturdays I have mingas... community work. So that’s why I call it Minga, with everybody coming, we clean it.” [07:51 - 08:14]

3. City Cooperation?—Bureaucracy and Broken Promises

[05:09 - 07:39]

• City departments reach out only for publicity, not practical help.
• Even requests for trash bags or legitimate support are met with “back and forth emails” or ignored, except for Councilmember Monica Rodriguez (District 7), described as a rare supportive official.

“Why they make so difficult? Monica Rodriguez... she honored me at City Hall. She put me in all the contacts. She's the best.” [07:17]

"I’ve emailed so many times and I still don’t get the trash bags." [62:15]

4. The Frustration of Recurring Trash

[08:30 - 12:46]

• Almost every cleaned spot is trashed again within weeks from illegal dumping (mostly contractors and street vendors avoiding landfill fees).
• 311 reporting system is a “joke”—delayed, inaccurate, or falsified responses.

“99.99%, you go back two weeks and a month, the trash again.” [08:39]

“I make a request on 311 app... They sent me a confirmation email saying they did pick up the trash... They just lied about it.” [10:28 - 11:03]

“I have a tech background... 311 is just a bridge. The information are not passing 311 with LA Sanitation. They have to fix that.” [11:47]

5. The Human Cost: Juan’s Family & Sacrifices

[12:57 - 13:48]
Personal toll: Juan’s wife wants to return to Ecuador; his young son battles a liver condition.

“She [my wife] just moved from Ecuador... She says I want to go back to Ecuador... My son is one year... he has a liver problem... We've been in Children's Hospital. But I cannot give up this.” [12:57 - 13:48]

6. Vision for LA – Lessons from Ecuador

[15:14 - 16:06]

• Juan’s dream: LA as clean and beautiful as Cuenca, Ecuador, where government provides 24/7 cleaning and genuine help for homeless people.

“I want to see LA like my city Cuenca. You have flowers on the sidewalks, parks really clean... The government gives all the programs to help homeless go back to normal life.” [15:14 - 15:45]

7. Systemic Failure, Lack of Accountability

[16:05 - 20:16]

• Official numbers on homelessness are “a lie.”
• Poop and trash on public sidewalks, beaches contaminated—citizens forced to check fecal app before swimming.

“They say there is less homeless in LA—I think it’s a lie. I know because I've been in LA every single day.” [15:45]

Spencer: “You pay all this money in taxes, and to go to the beach, you have to check an app that says what percentage fecal matter you’re swimming in.” [20:06]

8. Barriers to Change – Littering, Enforcement, City Inefficacy

[21:48 - 23:58]

• Littering is rampant, normalized by visual decay and lack of enforcement.
• Heidi shares her own family’s commitment to anti-littering. All agree on the need to reset norms and expectations.

“If you look at the streets and everything looks like trash, you start thinking: no way. But people forget... it’s wrong.” [23:07 - 27:51]

9. Solutions: If Juan or Spencer Ran LA

[23:39 - 30:03]

• Spencer/Heidi ask Juan to imagine running city sanitation:
  1. Fire everyone not performing.
  2. Hire passionate, trained staff who care about the city.
  3. Demand accountability and proper use of the city’s massive $1 billion sanitation budget.

“I’ll have to fire everybody in the office first. Hire new people. The city are lazy.” [23:58 - 24:06]

“I have to sell tote bags, T-shirts... I feel like I'm so glad that I am trying to make a change for everybody.” [25:12 - 25:30]

10. Structural Problems—Homelessness, Illegal Dumping, NGOs

[34:14 - 50:54]

• Illegal dumping by fruit/construction vendors, with city policies enabling the issue.
• Discussion of vast sums spent on homelessness but misused—with NGOs "getting rich" off the problem.

“You see the guy got arrested for 23 million... That’s one guy. And they only got him because the feds got him.” [50:32 - 50:43]

11. Spencer’s Plans as (Aspirational) Mayor

[40:36 - 56:05]

• App to replace 311, with real-time accountability and public visibility of government failures.
• Promise to fire ineffective officials, cut waste, enforce laws equally (against street drugs, illegal encampments), and provide mandatory treatment and reintegration jobs for homeless/addicted people.
• Emphasis on transparency, outsider status, and zero interest in long-term political career.

“I created an app that will replace 311, actually has accountability... Every city council member will be ranked like Yelp, by their response time and failures.” [44:05]

“If you’re doing drugs on the street, you’re going to jail. No more profit for NGOs. We’re going to solve it. It’s not a business.” [46:57 - 49:11]

“I don’t want to do this. I have to do this. Once it’s done, I’m gone. I want to go back to feeding hummingbirds and selling crystals.” [56:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On City Hall Bureaucracy:
  “I open a wish list—not even a week to get a thousand trash bags. But for LA, takes me three months, emails back and forth, and I haven’t gotten a single trash bag.”
  — Juan Naula [25:30]

• On Why He Keeps Going:
  “Now I feel like I’m born in LA because I fall in love with this place.”
  — Juan Naula [14:38]

• On the City’s Failures:
  “If this was any other private business, these people would have been replaced.”
  — Spencer Pratt [40:36]

• On What It Would Take to Fix LA:
  “Fire everybody in the office first.”
  — Juan Naula [23:58]

• On False Claims of a Cleaner LA:
  “They say there is less homeless in LA—I think it’s a lie. It’s a lie. I know because I’ve been in LA every single day.”
  — Juan Naula [15:45]

• On Why Volunteers Like Mingas Matter:
  “I think there’s a lot of people who really want to do this, but they were not inspired by someone. So I’m gonna start doing it.”
  — Juan Naula [37:24]

• On Skeptics and Haters:
  “People, haters, are saying you’re doing this just for the likes. No, this is not about likes, this is about the city, about you. I’m cleaning up your trash.”
  — Juan Naula [59:40]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:35] – Juan Naula introduction / personal story
• [02:47] – Why he started cleaning LA
• [08:39] – Recycling of trash and illegal dumping problem
• [11:47] – Failures of the City & the 311 system
• [15:14] – Juan’s dream: LA as clean as Cuenca
• [20:06] – LA’s polluted beaches and water
• [23:39] – "If Juan ran the city..." – policy vision
• [29:05] – Real city sanitation budget discussion
• [44:05] – Spencer’s new “clean LA” accountability app plan
• [46:57] – How to address homelessness & encampments
• [50:32] – The NGO grift on homelessness
• [56:26] – Spencer’s anti-career-politician stance
• [61:46] – How listeners can support Juan (merch, wishlist, social links)

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How Listeners Can Support & Get Involved

• Follow Juan and join his Mingas: see Juan's [Linktree via @CleanLAwithme]
• Donate: Wishlist and GoFundMe are in Juan’s bio
• Buy: Handmade tote bags, T-shirts (proceeds support Juan’s mission)
• Volunteer: Clean-ups every Saturday
• Demand better from LA city officials—and spread the message

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Tone & Style Notes

The conversation is passionate and irreverent, blending real anger, humor, and a call to action. Spencer and Heidi oscillate between comic disbelief and heartfelt support, heralding Juan as a genuine hero. The episode is unfiltered, with strong anti-establishment and anti-bureaucratic themes, heavy critique of failed policies, and lots of laughter even in the face of daunting urban decay.

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Final Thoughts

This episode of The Fame Game puts a human face on LA’s trash crisis—highlighting not only systemic governmental failures, but also the power of individual action and community pride. Juan Naula’s relentless and contagious optimism stands as a model for activism, while Spencer and Heidi frame the debate around accountability, political change, and collective responsibility.

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For more information and to join the clean-up movement, visit @CleanLAwithme on social media.

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Transcript

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[Juan Naula]

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[Juan Naula]

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[Juan Naula]

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[Juan Naula]

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[Heidi Montag]

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[Spencer Pratt]

Welcome back to the Fame Game. Starring Spencer Pratt and the global pop superstar Heidi Montag. Today we have a very special guest. Some may know him. As you know, I don't know him as this. I call him the Trash Angel. But some call him the Trash Man. This is Juan Naula. Juan.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah. It's a little bit hard to pronounce, but it's Naula. But.

[Spencer Pratt]

So this guy right here has done more to clean the streets of Los Angeles than our entire city. The mayor, Nobody. But this guy right here, he's a hero, an angel. And it's so sad that this is what it's come to. That just an individual like himself has to do what our tax money pays for. And thank you to everybody. Again, all of our great guests are from people sharing accounts with me. But I feel like you've been trending lately. I think everybody is loving your content. So let's rewind. I feel like you started this in LA a year ago.

[Juan Naula]

Yes, a little bit over a year ago. I moved from Virginia and back in October 2024. And then I went to Alicia's park, I was five weeks. And then I see trash everywhere and I make a decision. When I was in the outside of California, living in Virginia, you don't see these things. And I'm from Ecuador and also cuenca, where I come from, there's no trash because the meijer is doing so much, just so well, worked, you know, 24 hours, they're cleaning. So when I got here, it really shocks me to see trash, parks, alleys, street, homeless is why. Why? Because this is one of the beautiful land that I've been, I've been in 22 countries and never. I fall in love so quick. Like I fall in love with la and I was like, why? So I make a decision one day, went to Home Depot, get gloves, get the trash picker and went to Alicia's park and start cleaning and here I am.

[Heidi Montag]

I love that.

[Spencer Pratt]

What a legend.

[Heidi Montag]

And I love your shirt.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh my God. This right here is a legend. I, I mean, how do you do it? Because I, when I see the videos, the, the smell, I mean it's the then and also danger, the needles. Like what, how do you protect yourself from.

[Juan Naula]

So when they're. The first months. Yeah, I was, you know, new. I had over 20 years experience in contraction, so I know how to deal with these things. I was so be careful with needles learning because you don't see homeless and needles everywhere in Virginia or Washington D.C. you don't see these things. So I was very, very careful doing the work. But now it's really easy. When I see needles, I learn how to pick it up. And even when, when my volunteers come, I said, please do not take anything, they're gonna sharpen or will you just let me do it? And I just, I, I learned it, you know how to do it. And, and it's funny, I had to quit my, my startup. I had to quit my full day, my full time job. That was contraction. And now I do things August. I've been doing this on my own every day. Monday to Friday I do solo. Sometimes someone come and helps me. And then on Saturdays I have voluntaries, sometimes up to 30 people, 35 people and different. Every Saturday, different people.

[Heidi Montag]

That's amazing.

[Spencer Pratt]

And I'm speechless. And when you're doing this, does this. Do people from city council, the city ever say, well, you're. Is there. Like for instance, we had a guy on our podcast and when he painted the sidewalk or the crosswalks, they got mad at him and they come painted over are they getting mad at you and putting more trash out? Or did they ever say oh, you

[Juan Naula]

can't do this or they okay. So they I think they tried me to go be part of China Lay. They tried so hard since last May 2024 that I talked to the Chanel A department. But like I always said that really pissed me off. We talked to this department, we email back and forth. They even come to my mingas on Saturday. And we agreed that they're gonna help me out with the dumpster every Saturday for the mingas. So one day I was so happy, you know, so excited, like okay, I'm gonna do with the shantela people, blah blah with the government emailed to them on Monday. I said hey, I had this big spot here. Please can you help me setting up a dumpster so we can do a minga on this Saturday. Three weeks later they never emailed me back. But you know what really pissed me off? That was Monday. On Thursday they emailed me back. Can you put your our flyer with Chanel on your social media? No. What never did it.

[Spencer Pratt]

They're just trying to steal your clout

[Juan Naula]

still because I think now I know. About a month ago I was invited by the mayor current bus for state of city. It's great they invited me. If someone invite me, I always going to go always. Because I am open to work with everybody. So I went there. They said okay. They said okay, Juan, we love you. We're gonna support you. If you need anything, that's it. After that, nobody gets in touch with me to get trash bags. I have an email like 10 times back. And for emails to get trash bags

[Spencer Pratt]

it makes so difficult to clean the trash they're supposed to clean.

[Juan Naula]

Why they make so difficult. But I want to say something. Monica Rodriguez, District 7 she is really good. She honored me at the city hall. She put me in all the contacts in city hall. She did so well. So I'm she I think she's the best. I have no complaints actually. And this Saturday I'm going to do a cleanup with her at somewhere in District 7.

[Spencer Pratt]

And she can't help get you trash bags.

[Juan Naula]

She did all the contacts he put in me. The people who has the responsibility, but

[Spencer Pratt]

they don't then do it.

[Juan Naula]

My gosh.

[Heidi Montag]

So do you do this every week?

[Juan Naula]

Every day.

[Heidi Montag]

Every day?

[Juan Naula]

Every day solo. And then on Saturdays I have mingas. Okay, let me explain what minga means. I'm Ecuadorian. In ecuador we have 13 Nazville language they call dialect. I don't want to Call dialect because they're the native language. So minga is a kichwa world that means community work. So the community said, okay, we like here. We can say, hey, we're gonna have a minga for Spencer. Everybody gonna come. They're gonna fill a house. They put everything and just build a house or a bridge or cleanups or whatever. So that's why I call mingle with everybody coming. We clean it on Saturdays. Sometimes I even have a 35 voluntaries cleaning with me. Wow.

[Spencer Pratt]

What percentage of the sites do you clean? Do you come back in a week and it's back? Like do you feel like you're just chasing a tail sometimes or.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, 99.99%. You go back two weeks and a month. The trash again. Now I can tell you the freeway again. I'm new. I'm new in here. So I was coming to Long Beach. I think it's. I can't remember which freeway was. It was so much illegal dumping. I stopped, I make a video, I post it and the video go viral. This is the only spot that after that call trans went did a cleanup. They did their work. Now they put a wall. There is no more illegal d. Wow.

[Heidi Montag]

This is the only job.

[Juan Naula]

But I'm so proud.

[Heidi Montag]

Seriously, what were they dumping?

[Juan Naula]

Contra. Okay. Contraction. Illegal dumping is one. Contraction vendors and the. And the fruit vendors is the most illegal dumping. Why? I'm going to give you the reason. Hopefully when you come to the office you have to do this. There is like I have to pay for my packet to go dump the trash. It's 110 up to 1 ton. 20, 22,000 pounds. So the contraction right now, there's so much competition. So people they are. That's why I quit Contraction. Actually it's because there's so many. So much competition. People they're not getting enough money. So then they don't have enough money to go and pay for the landfill to dump the contraction waste. So they just see it. There is a. What is the spot? There is. There is no lights. Just go and dump it. There's a really hot spot all over la. I know so many spots that I clean and go back in 12 weeks trash again.

[Heidi Montag]

And are you able to report it to the city? You do, right? Do they care? They just don't care.

[Juan Naula]

311 up is another joke. Two weeks ago I cleaned right here in Hollywood. And101, I think we cleaned that one one Saturday. I think we were 15 people that are cleaning. I make a request on three. One, one up. They said okay, we're gonna come next Friday pick it up. The tr. One of the neighbors called me a one nobody. They didn't. They didn't pick it up the trash. And they sent me a confirmation email saying they did pick up the trash.

[Heidi Montag]

Oh my gosh. They just lied about it. That's shocking.

[Juan Naula]

And this is not one time. This is many. Many. Even I can. Matthew from Fox, he covered me long time back in about three, four months ago, same problem. There is many times this problem many. It's not only one. Okay. I said one is okay. What is the problem? I have a tech. You know my background on tech. I know what is the problem. Okay. 311 is just a bridge between the people who is requesting with LA LA Sanitation. So right there the information are not passing 311 with LA Sanitation. They have to fix that. They already on at the city hall. They told me they're going to fix it back in January. They haven't fixed it. And really pissed me off because they said they sent me. They told me in my. In my video that I'm a. I'm the fucking liar. No, I am not the liar. Then put an other request saying okay, we're gonna. After that they didn't come and shop. I went and picked up all the trash and I went down by myself. I paid the money from my pocket.

[Heidi Montag]

Oh man.

[Juan Naula]

That was. This is about two weeks ago. And they make another request on. On my name and send me an email saying okay, we're gonna go pick it up in a week. Why? Why they don't fix these things. I already tell them. I said if you need help. I had a lot of recombination 311 because I have experience convenience on application. They said, okay, we're gonna do. I can't remember that console. I think it was District 13. I can't remember her name. I told her, if you need, you know, some suggestions, just let me know. I will come in and help you out to fix this. Because for me it's easier. Okay, I can. But not many people know how to deal with this. They have to make easier. They have to make sure the bridge is working perfectly. Mm.

[Heidi Montag]

That's so frustrating. Spending so much time, so much of your effort and they can't even pick up the fricking bags after you just spent your whole day doing that. What does your wife say?

[Juan Naula]

She been. She just moved from Ecuador. She been five weeks here with my son. She's in shock. She said I want to go back to Ecuador.

[Heidi Montag]

That's so wild.

[Juan Naula]

She doesn't want to live here anymore.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. This is crazy.

[Spencer Pratt]

What are we doing? Just watching you just clean trash. Trash.

[Juan Naula]

My son is one year. Oh my gosh. Yeah, he has a liver problem. He has already three surgeries. We've been in 11. 11 days in the children hospital last. The last week.

[Heidi Montag]

Oh, I'm so sorry.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, it's. That's why I was not able to make the last time.

[Heidi Montag]

Is it something that they can fix now?

[Juan Naula]

We are waiting for all the exams and all that, the process. We're. We're trying to see if he doesn't. Trying to see if we can avoid the transplant. I know but I cannot give up this.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh no.

[Juan Naula]

You know, this is when I moved to la. I didn't move to pick it up trash, my friend. I moved with dreams. I moved here with. This is the place the dreams come true. But now I had another dream and I want to make a change but it has to be a long term change. Not just like okay one week and then next week is the same thing. No. All the officials that are in an office, they have to do their part. I learned that one council member is making 250 a year. But why they don't do the job? Why didn't they go outside and talk to the homeowners, talk to business. Businesses. Small business are calling me to come and clean the trash right in front of their businesses because they're living homeless right in front of the businesses. I have many businesses and I suffered. You know, sometimes when something is not working well, people are calling me to clean because the city is not. You can see on my social media on the comments we have report three times. They never show up. Three, one, one. Many, many people. It's not just me what's going on. I mean this is like when I started saying this is not my tribe, this is not my city but I clean. But now I feel like I'm born in LA because I fall in love with this place. This is beautiful. One of the best land that I've been ever.

[Heidi Montag]

What is your ultimate dream? What would you love if you could have anything happen? What's your dreams?

[Juan Naula]

I want to see LA like my city Cuenca. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. You have flowers on the sidewalls, you have the parts really clean. They clean power wash overnight. If there is homeless living under the bridge, they come and they help to the people who is living and under the bridge they take to the, you know, to the houses. They give you the all the programs for, for them, you know, to help so they can go back to the, to the normal life.

[Heidi Montag]

Yes.

[Juan Naula]

I want to see. Because they say there is less homeless in la. I think it's a lie. It's a lie. I know because I've been in LA every single day, downtown, everywhere, you know, just LA county, even Orange County, Montebello, Norwalk, I all over is a lie.

[Heidi Montag]

Yes.

[Juan Naula]

Do not lie to the people because I think people don't mind paying taxes. But you have to get back, have good health, have a good city, have good businesses. About eight months ago, it was 8 o' clock in the morning. I was right there by Hill and fifth Street. There is a very expensive apartment building right in the front. A person living. He make poop. He was half naked and there was a poop three spots. And then the people was coming outside. That was my first time seeing like people are coming outside their building and seeing all that. Why I am in shock that I call the, the police, I call the 91 1. They come, they say they cannot help them because they say, no, I don't want, I don't need any help. They can do anything. This is a first world country or is not even third world country. It's worse than that.

[Spencer Pratt]

No, it's insane. And they can't. It's. It's illegal to camp on the sidewalk and it's illegal to poop on the sidewalk. So they, they actually can remove them. It's the mayor's choice to not enforce the law.

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[Juan Naula]

So there is a law.

[Spencer Pratt]

You can't poop on the sidewalk.

[Juan Naula]

But I mean why did the. Okay, so one time I was.

[Spencer Pratt]

Don't try it to prove it.

[Heidi Montag]

But I promise you, only unhoused people, homeless people can do it, but ordinary people can't. They are not enforcing.

[Spencer Pratt]

Give you a ticket and they think you have money, they'll give you a ticket. But somebody else can do it because they, oh, they don't have money. It's all money. Oh, there's no ticket. We're not going to enforce that, well,

[Heidi Montag]

they make money from homeless people on the streets.

[Juan Naula]

Yes, I learned that right now. That they make money. It's crazy.

[Spencer Pratt]

So speaking of these homeless encampments, all the trash you clean isn't even that. You have to leave all that there. You're cleaning just the trash, so you can't even clean because that's technically somebody's property.

[Juan Naula]

I heard that because one day I was like, I'm a nice guy. So I go to the, you know, the homeless and say, hey, you need anything? I'm gonna clean this. If there is any trash, just move it. I'll pick it up. And then whatever you want to keep it, just keep it. But, man, sometimes is there so much stuff that. Like how. Because a lot of people, a lot of people, South Central live by the. Close to the drains where the water go to the, to the river and end up in the ocean. So much stuff. Nasty, disgusting. I was like, okay, so this water going to here. And then I went to Benny's beach where all the water come into the beach. Oh my God, how much trash it was there. I was like in shock. And then people come and jump in this water.

[Heidi Montag]

Yep, that's what's happening. Our sun is going into the ocean and there's. So my legs burn when it touches the water. And I'm looking at the levels.

[Juan Naula]

I don't want to go here on the beach. Yeah, I prefer not to, but it's all the same.

[Heidi Montag]

It's. All the water is connected, so it's all contaminated. It's all disgusting. How are they supposed to possibly clean the ocean?

[Spencer Pratt]

What planet are we living on in la, where to go to? You pay all this money in taxes and to go to the beach, you have to check an app that says what percentage fecal matter you're swimming in.

[Juan Naula]

I see that, I see that, yeah. What? Yeah, because I'm in shock to see. I like, okay, I'm going to California. It was the excited time when I said moving to California, you know, and then got here. And then I have to learn all these things like, okay, you can't just go and jump in the water because it could kill you eventually.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah, yeah.

[Juan Naula]

And then, okay, there you cannot do anything in the river because it's so dirty. I clean once LA river too, and there's so much trash in there. I like.

[Heidi Montag]

So what do you love about la?

[Juan Naula]

The weather. The weather, the people, the culture, not the politics. It's. I've been in 22 countries and it's just the weather. Oh, my God, it's just perfect Isn't

[Heidi Montag]

Ecuador really beautiful like this?

[Juan Naula]

It is so cuenca it is beautiful because we ride in the middle, you know the Ecuadorian line right in the middle so we don't have weather like I mean here it's good but if you go like east coast is really humid and sticky winter is so cold so Ecuador is like pretty much like this quenka it has. I think I fall in love with Los Angeles because it has a lot of like, like cuenca we have mountains, mountains are all outside and then the city right under we have four rivers you can take you can drink the water right from the river because it's

[Heidi Montag]

so clean I think I'd rather live

[Spencer Pratt]

in Ecuador on the way to the airport right?

[Juan Naula]

She said we gonna My son's name is Julian he said julian gets better I'm leaving and you're going with me.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah and would you?

[Spencer Pratt]

No, he's gonna save the city he has a mission I feel like now you're on a crusade now I don't

[Juan Naula]

want to give up like again, you know everybody who invites me I can because I want to send a message to everybody to everybody can do their part also because the people I cannot see people they had driving Mercedes Benz BMWs putting that window down and littering.

[Heidi Montag]

I saw that I tell my children, I say if you throw something out the window we are driving back, you pick it up My mom was always that way she was so serious about

[Spencer Pratt]

littering I grew up really fearing the thousand dollar fines oh for sure you go to jail like you know, that's back to like enforcing laws like I my whole life if you litter thousand dollars you know you're gonna get I watch people literally the other day I had to stop myself because they definitely could have beat me up to not say something because I watched them just open and just throw I was like what the. You know, so.

[Heidi Montag]

It's just so disrespectful it's lazy, it's rude, it's thoughtless it is shocking that people litter. What the frick? Who even litters?

[Spencer Pratt]

Well if you look at the streets and everything looks like trash you start thinking no way.

[Heidi Montag]

No, I'm saying this I went to the beach the other day and I told Spencer I was like I am bringing a trash bag every time I come to the beach from now on because there's so much freaking trash around here. This is unacceptable. And that's why I was going to buy the picker I'm going to buy the picker and just get Trash every time we come there, because it's in our backyard, it's in our front. You know what I mean? Like that whole saying, like in your neighborhood, in your life, in your town, it's like, I love this message so much.

[Spencer Pratt]

So right now, if the city listened to you, because they obviously are failing at their job. You see it every day, five days a week and you got all the resources of Los Angeles. What is the. What would. If you're you, they give you the helmet and they say Juan's in charge, how do you do it? What's the plan?

[Juan Naula]

I think I have to fire everybody in the office first. Fire all the people and hire new people. Because they're not doing their job.

[Heidi Montag]

Yes.

[Juan Naula]

Even the people who is coming pick it up. I see this guy somewhere, South Central. I can't remember. Come with the truck, you know, the, the la. And then pick it up. The trash can and then trash come off, put it back and left. Okay. Give them appropriate training. Okay. If trash comes off, get out your ass at the car, pull the trash, put it back clean. Don't they let half of the trash can on the street? Those people, they shouldn't be working for the city. The city are lazy. I was cleaning Washington Boulevard and Atlantic East LA one time. They were sleeping under the bridge while I was a cleaning the street.

[Spencer Pratt]

The people whose job, the people are

[Juan Naula]

supposed to work, I don't know if they were in lunch time. I mean by lunch in two hours, I don't think over two hours. I wish I can have two hours lunch. It doesn't happen in Ecuador, of course. Yeah. Because we are. Our culture is two hours lunch. But not here, not in the States. States, you know.

[Heidi Montag]

So do you have another job with this? Are you able to just do this full time?

[Juan Naula]

Since August, I've been doing this full time. Wow. I do Monday to Friday, sometimes early in the morning or sometimes at night evenings cleaning. And so why I. That's why I sell the tote bags, I sell T shirts, I Selling stuff.

[Heidi Montag]

Great.

[Juan Naula]

And then my community, actually they are supporting me. They, they're being, they're being so. Well, I. I feel like I am so glad that I am in la. I am so glad that I am trying to make a change for everybody. So they send me on my GoFundMe, on my Venmo, they, they kind of push me. It's like open your wish list. With LA, take me about 3 months emails back and forth. I haven't get not even one trash bag. I open a wish list not Even a week to get a thousand trash bags. Not even a week. And I don't need to go over back emails, back and forth, back and forth emails. I don't have time to go back. And for emails. I. I'm like things that has to be very simple. Juan, you want to need trash bags? Come in two weeks, we're gonna have for you sign this paper. Done.

[Spencer Pratt]

What website can people who are watching this right now go to your wish list.

[Juan Naula]

It's on my all social media and there is a link tree and then they can see everything there.

[Spencer Pratt]

Perfect. And that's clean la.

[Juan Naula]

Clean LA with me. Yeah. There is clean ally with me.

[Spencer Pratt]

And hold on there.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah. And I do this by myself. Everything, my phone, my microphone, that's all my. And yeah, and this, that's it. And I do all the edit. I edit by myself. I do everything by myself. And I wish I can, I can have more people if I have more people helping me. No, man, I can clean the office in one month.

[Spencer Pratt]

So we fired everybody. Let's go back to what? You fired everyone? Yes. What's the next step?

[Juan Naula]

I will hire new people. I will give the proper training to people to do the job. Pretty much that's what they have to do. And hire serious people that really they want to work. A lot of people, they are working for the city, for the state, because just the money, not because they really want to do it. That's why they don't do the job. I do because I love it. That's the difference. So I will try to hire people that really wants to do that, really love the city, that really want to see a change, they really want to see it different. I know so many people, they haven't left LA ever, so they think this is normal. This is normal to see people dragging their self. This is normal to see trash everywhere.

[Heidi Montag]

How it was such a slow change that people have gotten used to it over time. If it had been this 15 years ago, 20 years ago, you would be shocked what it looked like. It did not look like this, but it was such a slow gradation of more homeless people, more trash, more, you know. So over time, people got used to it as it got worse. And so people forget la. They're forgetting what it used to be like. They're forgetting that it's not acceptable, it is not right that they are able to make a change. People have just given up and they don't care. And it's wrong. Like need to stand, you need to fight, you need to clean it up. For us, for the next generation. It's wrong. Wrong is wrong. And our streets need to be clean for our children, for our tax paying lives, for life. It's dirty, it's dangerous, it's scary. So round of applause for you and God bless you and I'm so impressed and proud of everything that you're doing and thank you. Thank you so much, Angel.

[Spencer Pratt]

Okay, so budget, how much do you think this would cut? You fired everybody. You hired people that care about the city, they want change. What do you think it costs to clean the streets of LA?

[Juan Naula]

I am not sure but I 2025 found the budget was 580 million to clean LA. And 2026, I said I think they are trying to get 1 billion to clean LA. If I'm wrong, someone claims, please help me if I'm wrong, you know. But I don't think so because I got all this information and also I think Fox News put up that they, the budget is to 1 billion to. For this 2026 to clean LA. So if they got, if they got. Yeah, because you see the, the pickup trash. Oh my God. They, the, the builder was $36, now it's 55, I think. So that's why they're doubling the budget. I think that's so much money. 580 million last year. And then seeing all this, I think they.

[Spencer Pratt]

How much could you, how much could you do it for? If you had a team like in

[Juan Naula]

your bread for half of it and

[Heidi Montag]

I bet it would look like you could eat off of it. It'd be shiny.

[Juan Naula]

And I will make a lot of money.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

That's crazy. And as you should. To clean it, to fix it.

[Spencer Pratt]

This is back to when people are like, oh, what are you gonna do, Spencer? It's these simple things. Clearing the homeless encampments off the streets, cleaning the streets. It makes people have to have businesses again.

[Juan Naula]

Exactly.

[Spencer Pratt]

Nobody wants to go into a business where you have trash out in front of them. Businesses can't stop this. They don't have the, the money to be fighting the constant destruction of the streets.

[Juan Naula]

Because I think they don't have the experience owning a business ever. Some people that are in office, so they just come in the office, we're gonna do this, this, this, that. But they don't have the experience. Have been. I have 17 small businesses and the contraction, it was the big one. And then my tech company was a huge, huge one. That was, that's why I moved here. So I had the experience how to make things Fast and very, very well, you know, but people that in office, they don't have the experience. They think, okay, we're going to sign this law and put it right there. No, just go and talk to the people. Whoever comes, if you come to the office and whoever comes to the offer, I wish they don't forget the mission. Why are you waiting for? What are you fighting for right now? Why you want to be in the office? I hope people, they don't forget because most of the people, they get to the office and they forget their mission. They forget why they were fighting to be there to be in the office, you know, because small business are struggling right now. Why the gas right now and 20 in two days went 50 cents up. The gas.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. I don't think a lot of the people that go into this, they don't forget they went in for the wrong reasons.

[Juan Naula]

Exactly.

[Spencer Pratt]

So that's the other part. It's not that they forget know exactly why they went for their own selfish reasons. For power, for money. They didn't go in there to change. They're not doing it like you cleaning the streets. And so I don't think they forgot. I think we're stuck with a bunch of career politicians that are going into this job just to keep the job. Do you see the street sweeping? People come. How often do you see that? And the power washing and power washing?

[Juan Naula]

Never. I haven't seen ever that someone is power washing the streets or bus stop because I have clean buses that on one of the videos on Clean Bus Stop it had like 2.5 million views that it was poop right by the bus stop and I had to clean it and it was already dry so it was easy to clean it. I know, I know.

[Heidi Montag]

How can you do that? I'm so impressed.

[Spencer Pratt]

You are the nut.

[Heidi Montag]

Do you ever throw up? Is it like.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, of course. I had like, oh, I have fun. Dead animals for the food vendors. They go and dump the me the chicken. Oh man, the fruit. It's been forever there. Oh, it's disgusting.

[Heidi Montag]

So do you wear a mask?

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, I do wear. Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Who are these people showing up to volunteer with you? Just legends.

[Juan Naula]

This is kind of sucks and makes me feel so, so sad because it's my community. I'm a Latino. It makes me feel so sad that my community are doing the most of the illegal dumping. It's sad because I'm a Latino, I'm an immigrant and I'm trying to be part of the solution. I don't want to be part of the problem. But at the same time, I'm thinking, okay, these people, they don't have. They don't have enough. They. Enough knowledge that they can go and dump the trash. They don't have. They're not making enough money that. That's why they just come and dump. But then the city has to come jump into it, said, okay, we're gonna give you some discount. You guys go and dump because they giving. They are giving the. The food permit to have the. The fruit, you know, the little fruits. The taco vendors, you know, they. They should say, you know what? Please do not leave the trash here. Here is the address. We're gonna give you 50.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. So you guys can, like, coupons or something.

[Juan Naula]

But they haven't done anything. So it's a disaster.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, my gosh, I've been learning.

[Juan Naula]

I've been learning so much. I think I know now too much. I hope they got to get in trouble.

[Heidi Montag]

The problem is they're trying to take every dollar that they can, and they're greedy and they're taking the money at the sacrifice of the integrity of their job, of the community, of the city. That doesn't make it right. It makes it wrong. So it. Yeah, there has to be change, you know, and it's great to see you actually out there making the change, physically inspiring people. Thank God for social media that you're able to show also what's going on. Because they lie about it. They're like, the city's great. The city's clean. It's like, no, it's not. It's disturbing.

[Spencer Pratt]

Before I forget, are you going live on tick tock when you're doing this?

[Juan Naula]

Sometimes, yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

You gotta keep it live the whole time so people can gift you.

[Heidi Montag]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

You should have a second phone to the one that's doing the, like, time lapse and one you just need to leave on live.

[Juan Naula]

That I need. I need. I'm trying, you know, trying to find someone to help me because dealing by myself is a lot. Sometimes I go, you know, places where they can grab my phone, I go to.

[Heidi Montag]

So run away, right?

[Juan Naula]

There's many places. It's not dangerous when I get there. Usually when they start, you know, they see me for the first time, they always get aggressive and I talk to them. I said, hey, I'm not from the city. I am. I'm just a guy who comes and clean this place, whatever is there, and then just come down. But still, I have to be very careful because I want to run my. Take my phone, you know, what Happened. I was live streaming on 8th street and 405 Freeway, I think, and I was live streaming and a guy in a motorcycle shop, he was so pissed. Why are you cleaning? Why are you doing this? I was like, are you serious?

[Heidi Montag]

Why do you care?

[Juan Naula]

Yeah. No.

[Heidi Montag]

So weird.

[Juan Naula]

No.

[Heidi Montag]

Why would he care?

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, but it's not normal that someone comes and can attack me saying that why I'm cleaning.

[Heidi Montag]

It's just a demon.

[Juan Naula]

Just I, and I kind of stopped doing lives on Tick Tock.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, because you've, oh, because I used

[Juan Naula]

to do every day.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, you feel like they came out.

[Heidi Montag]

You don't have to say where you are.

[Juan Naula]

But the thing is, I'm streaming. They know it where I am. Yeah, it was twice. And then I was like, you know what? And then I love your stream for 10 seconds. Usually what I live stream now is my Mingas on Saturday when I have a lot of people around me. I'm not doing any cleanups, I'm just going with the phone, talking and showing what we pick it up, things like

[Spencer Pratt]

that, you know, who's showing up to the Mingus? Who are these people?

[Juan Naula]

Just normal people.

[Spencer Pratt]

And is that why you love la, because you're with people like that, man?

[Juan Naula]

I, I, they love me.

[Spencer Pratt]

No, but I'm saying that because I'm trying to figure out. Because you're like, I love the people in la, but if you go live, you got people showing up, yelling at you, you're seeing people pooping on the street. So it must be the Minga people that make you.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. What people loving in la.

[Juan Naula]

So the people are pooing is people that lives on the streets. It's not like normal people going and do pool. Yeah, I know.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Juan Naula]

So they, you know, they are in the drive sometimes they don't know they lost. They, they, they don't know what to do, what they're doing. And then the people come help me every Saturday. It's like they really love, they're really tough, tired. They just want to make a change. They want to see a different people are so happy to come and doing it. They get to my minga, they just start doing it and they're so happy. I think there's a lot of people really want to do this, but they were not inspired by someone. So I'm gonna start doing it. And I think they, you know, they are following me. There is get inspired from me that I'm doing it and I don't see a change. And, and they're saying like, this guy Is not even from la. This guy is from, you know, from Ecuador and living in east coast and yeah, things like that. I think people, that's why they love. And this is pretty much is the people and it's this land. This land is beautiful. It's just. I want to see a different. This LA is beautiful. It's beautiful. But you can make it. It has, it has to be a change.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah, it has for everybody.

[Juan Naula]

I want to have a businesses, you know, I would love to have a business here.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Juan Naula]

My, my son is one year old. I'm gonna be here. I don't know I want to be here for, you know, until my son gets old.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Juan Naula]

So I don't want to let my son live. It says it's normal. My wife says, how can be a normal people getting a smug in the streets? Because we go by sometimes one place and we can smell all the. The smoke they are smoking. You know, she's. Because we don't see this back home, you know, so the trash and all that. I said like, okay, we have to keep fighting. That's all I can do. I have my hands and my. I'm. I'm good now. So I, I will keep fighting until I see a change. Because I told him in the city Hall, I'm not lying. I told him that when I was in the City hall, hopefully in two years, it's a change because I don't want to be cleaning for the rest of my life.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Juan Naula]

I didn't move to LA to clean, to pick it up trash. I moved here because I had a dreams. And hopefully you or whoever comes to the office, they do the change. And I want to fight. If you win, I'm going to be like, okay, you, you said you're going to do it. Do it.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, no, I already, I already. You already got a new job. You're going to fire everybody you're going to be in charge of. You've made my life way easier. When I go, how are you going to do it? I'm like, I got one. He's firing everybody and he's going to pick the new people and we're going to cut the budget from whatever they say it is by half. Because Juan already said he could do it for 250.

[Juan Naula]

So this year is almost a billion.

[Spencer Pratt]

We're doing it for 250.

[Juan Naula]

Hopefully, you know, it just. They do their job.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah.

[Juan Naula]

So I have a couple questions for you. One of the questions is like, says that if you, when you come to the office, I will have no job. I want to see how you will gonna do solve this problem in Los Angeles. I'm not sure if it's LA county too, that.

[Spencer Pratt]

No, it's not.

[Juan Naula]

It's just a city.

[Spencer Pratt]

It's LA City.

[Juan Naula]

LA City. How will you do that and how quick you think you can achieve this problem and make sure LA is clean?

[Spencer Pratt]

It all connects to the same thing. All the people in these jobs are failing. If this was any other private business, these people would have been replaced. So we got to come in and do a real audit and have these people say, why do you have this job? Because I'm driving with trash. Let's say I'm driving around. There's the most trash I've ever seen in the history of my life. Why do you have your job? You're just asking for more money. If you can't clean any streets with the money you got, why should you have the job? So I think it becomes all these people that are currently in control of these departments, whether it's the parts of the fire department, parts of police, parts of transportations, parts of city, there's a lot of people failing. So I think they've just accepted failure as status quo. So it goes back to what I've been saying. A lot of people need to be replaced. So you start with that and then it comes back to so much money in my. What I see is being scammed. The money doesn't go to what it's supposed to. So we really need to look at all the money it's being used. And where's that money going with the homelessness? We know it's going to increasing homelessness. It's, it's not taking homeless way. So big problem there. And the solution isn't, oh, we need more money. We need, we need new. We need a new plan here. So when you start looking at the budget from everyone's failing, you replace these people and you get smarter people or people who care, like you, who actually want to make a difference. So for sanitation, I would say you would have a job because you're going to be running my new sanitation department. Because if you're watching this, you're fired. You should like start looking for a new job because Juan's taking your job and all your team's getting fired as well. Juan's gonna hire the new crew and it's about finding people who care. I don't want to go be the mayor. I have to because like you, I want change. I want to fight for the city I love, for the Beauty because I want my sons to be able to grow up in the LA that I loved. It's gone but it can come back. It's not these big. It's just making these changes. The simplest things where people can't poop on the street, where people can't dump trash, where we don't allow this to happen. So it's just like you. Once that's done, I would like to have a different life. I don't want to be a career politician. I want to go in, stop what's happening, make the changes and then like you go have a small business and go back to selling crystals or following around my wife and being Heidi's husband. She performs and other countries. Hopefully Ecuador.

[Juan Naula]

Hopefully. Yeah. Man. I would love to take to Cuenca you fall in love with.

[Spencer Pratt]

I might move Heidi's already. Heidi's going to catch that flight with your wife.

[Juan Naula]

It's 20 hours flight.

[Heidi Montag]

I'm ready. Take it.

[Juan Naula]

So my next question is I see many neighbors are full of trash. They also request on 311 up and sometimes three months and they never show up. And this is not a line because they send me the request and I go and clean up. So people are tired. How do you think you can have a system that works properly and fast?

[Spencer Pratt]

So I've already created and I have the test model on my phone. I created an app that will replace 311 that actually has accountability. And eventually the app would merge into the city dashboards if people want to use the app or if they just want to go on the city website. But what the app will do is it will show wherever you are in the city and you open it up and you film whatever you want. It's going to geostamp it and it's going to create accountability to all the people that are responsible. It'll automatically email them and then it'll show their track record of their response time, their failures so that we see as voters and constituents our city council members and they'll be ranked and rated like how a restaurant gets a whole yelp and a call. Why are our city council members not held to the same expectations that my mom will hold the place getting her spinach artichoke dip and that people feel that restaurants will say that reviews will break a restaurant. Enough of these people go the stars. So our city council member need to feel that when election time comes around that they're this 311 idea has a tangible record where this, this city council member has the worst response times. They ignore everything. Where this One like the one you mentioned, Rodriguez, with the trash. People look at her. Oh, she cleaned the trash. She did that. She worked with Juan. She should get credit for that, not just be bunched in, oh, the city's failing. There are maybe are people that are working and we need to make that system have accountability. So as mayor, I will call out all the parties involved and make sure the city, the citizens, can hold them to the expectations where you can monitor it and track their failings. And as a mayor, I can say, oh, I just went on the new app or the new dashboard. And so. And so at city council, they are the worst city council district person. I hope when the next election comes out, you guys all remember, they don't care about you. And that's what we need as a mayor to be the CEO of the city council and say, these people are trash. Not only do they have the streets are covering trash, but they are trash. City council, you don't see the mayor doing that. They all are. They all hang out, smile and do photos together. They don't say a bad thing. I will get these people.

[Juan Naula]

So my other question is that I see in Los Angeles is one of the city in United States that has more of the homeless. I see right now, they clean this area and they move to this spot. They clean it next day, not even next, in two hours, the same people, they come back to the place. How you fix that?

[Spencer Pratt]

Well, what I see when I drive around the streets is, yes, there may be some homeless people that are encampments. That's one thing. But what I see more of than anything is people that are either on drugs or having a real mental condition. Whether that's from the drugs or not, I don't know. I don't have to drug test them. But as mayor, you can't do drugs on the sidewalk anymore. That's done. So that's a crime. When I, when I'm the mayor, if you're doing fentanyl, smoking, whatever on the street, you're going to go to jail. I'm going to enforce the laws that if somebody down the street right now is working on one of these houses that maybe are getting rebuilt, they start smoking fentanyl, they're going to get arrested. Hunt, they're going to jail. So everyone is going to have the same consequences. And yes, we're going to need more treatment. And that's not treatment where you choose to just leave. If you're really having a drug problem, you can't go to a place that's voluntary, voluntary and optional. And then you can just leave. If you're doing drugs on the street and you've been arrested, you need to go to a treatment place that will be. The government will fund, not NGOs that are making money. There's no makeup. No more making money. When I'm mayor, you will not make profit as an NGO or the giving people drugs. No. This is a problem. We're going to solve it. It's not a business. There's no more making money off of drug addicts and homeless people and people that are struggling with mental conditions. It's not a business. So if you're here thinking you're going to get rich, you should go to a new city, new. A new state. Because when I'm mayor, that ends. So it comes back to no more drugs in the streets. I'm going to go after the dealers harder. We are going to clean up the drug problem. And if you are being arrested continuously, we're going to require drug treatment. And we're going to. Once we get you sober, we're going to give you the resources to enter back into society where you don't just go right back onto it. A fentanyl needle. An odd. But no more. No more drugs on the streets.

[Juan Naula]

So back in Ecuador, they put in this. When they are in the treatment, when the rehab, they have a different department. So you can do carpentry, you can do so many other things. So they can get. When they get out their treatment, they can go back and start their own job or their own businesses. I wish there'll be something like this here, you know, because we have a lot of resources here in la, in the States that people, while they get the treatment, when they get out the treatment, they can start even their own businesses. They don't have to go back to the. To the drugs, you know, So I think.

[Spencer Pratt]

Or they come clean with you. We pay them to come clean with you. You know, they come to the mingas exactly every. That's five days a week work. So you know that right? There is something. We can give a job to somebody that's not too complex.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

That can also feel like they're doing something good. So I mean this. There's plenty of solutions. The problem is too many people are getting rich off of the problem. So as mayor, I'm not coming in. I'm not getting bankrolled by any NGOs. I'm not making. I'm not. They're not donating to me because they know I'm shutting this down. If there's a billion dollars. We're low balling it. There's a billion dollars to help homeless. How many people are getting rich? Too.

[Juan Naula]

Too many.

[Spencer Pratt]

Too many.

[Juan Naula]

You see the guy got arrested for three. 23 million.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. That's one.

[Juan Naula]

It's one.

[Spencer Pratt]

One guy.

[Juan Naula]

23 million. Are you kidding me?

[Spencer Pratt]

And that's one guy. And they only got him because the feds got him.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

The city knows about everybody. So again, as mayor, we're stopping the people who don't care. It's, it's. They have to go.

[Juan Naula]

Period.

[Spencer Pratt]

Period. I actually have my friend whose house burned down. He asked Mike gtv, he said the only job, I'll do it for free. Let me go into city hall and be. Give me a desk and have everybody come in and tell me why they shouldn't be fired.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah. Because I mean, come on. I'm a guy, just a guy. And they ask me for help. The city is asking me for help to promote their cleanups. It's just I'm a guy.

[Spencer Pratt]

When did they start their cleanups?

[Juan Naula]

The shiny lay Star on May 20, 31st, 2024. Once a month.

[Spencer Pratt]

After years though.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

They saw yours trip. Okay.

[Juan Naula]

I think. I don't know if they saw me. I don't know.

[Spencer Pratt]

You don't know?

[Juan Naula]

I don't know.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. Maybe they saw you making them look so stupid. And we're like, we shine with these people are scammers.

[Juan Naula]

I will go work with them. Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

No, I'm saying the city's the scammer part. The people showing up are cleaning.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

We're not disrespectful.

[Juan Naula]

I say I will go and clean with them if they really do the work. But there's a. Almost like a show. Come on.

[Spencer Pratt]

That's what I'm saying. Just this. It's clout chasing. So they want one. They want the Juan Energy.

[Juan Naula]

I go everywhere again. I was in the city hall. I'm here. I'm going to go everywhere. I want to work with the people. I want to see a change. That's right. I'm coming to every people that invites me. I just go and I will make sure if you win, I'll know if you don't ever hire me, if you

[Spencer Pratt]

already got the job, you got the job

[Juan Naula]

done.

[Spencer Pratt]

We can shake on this. I'll sign today. My honor. My first hire as mayor. I thought I was going to do a lot of firing first, but we already got a hire leading into city hall.

[Juan Naula]

So I saw. This is my other question. I saw you got a podcast With Matthew. And you said Matthew mentioned about me and you said if I become a meer, he has to go another estate. I wish I happened. Actually, you know, I'll be. Oh, my God, that will be the best. How? How will you solve that? I mean, you said I won't have a job. Now you want to hire me. Because probably you said that back in with Matthew. You didn't know my intentions and my plans and how I see how I love la. Probably you said that and I didn't get mad. I started laughing like he does. He said that because you didn't know me well, that now you know me well.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. No, my, my. I was saying that because your job, you should have never had to come from Ecuador, see the streets and start cleaning them all day, every day. Because I pay. Everyone pays our tax money. These streets should be cleaner than the streets from your hometown in Ecuador. So my expectations, if I was in power as mayor, that nobody has to come volunteer and do mingyas to go clean. What? The city's job and responsibly that we already pay for to do. So now that I know your expertise, you will have a job, but it will be already paid for by the city taxes. And we're going to drop that down. We're not increasing. You tell me they're increasing. We don't need to increase that. Trash is going down because we're going to be more efficient and we're going to hire the people that actually want to do the job and aren't just doing it to sleep under bridges.

[Juan Naula]

Even if we said to the people, we're going to have a cleanup every Saturday, I bet you we're going to have a thousand people come and help us every Saturday just to make sure the city gets better again. I know we don't have to do that.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah, we don't need to stop the mingyas because it's still great for the community. And even in a perfect world, there will always be some trash. So the idea of a minga and the community wanting to come together, but it shouldn't be the community's responsibility. It should not be Juan's job all day, every day to clean poop, dry, poop off the bus stop. So also the streets may be so safe that one of your 17 companies, you may want to focus on bringing the tech company to the streets.

[Juan Naula]

Actually, actually, my big tech company, you know what it was?

[Spencer Pratt]

What was it?

[Juan Naula]

I was going to be competing with Uber and Lyft. I had a rideshare app and I stopped because I got a scam. When I got here, I got a scam, $8,000 and making things very difficult. So I stopped. I would love to have that one in la.

[Spencer Pratt]

Well, the streets will be much cleaner when I'm there. There's gonna be more businesses, there's gonna be more people coming here. So Uber and Lyft are going to need a new competitor. So stay tuned.

[Juan Naula]

So in Los Angeles and I think everywhere, you know, in elections, people promote a lot of things. And then when you get to there, people never happen what this candidate promised and campaign. How we can see that if you became a mayor, you will do things that you really saying right now that you want to do this, you want to do that, you want to fight, you know, you know, this, all these things how we can see that you're really going to do it.

[Spencer Pratt]

Well, first off, what I've learned now, running for mayor is running for mayor, one of the most important parts is money. You see these people that are running for politics, they have people putting millions of dollars behind their campaign. I have just random people sending me five. I have like your wish list.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

Running my campaign. So I don't have any of these entities and NGOs and business control. There's a lot of things behind the scenes that I feel like the people, once they get the power, they can't even do a lot of stuff because they already made these type of commitments or promises or deals to outside entities. I have none of that. I don't have any relationships with these powers that be. And I also never lie to the citizens because that's why I said enough's enough. Because I kept getting lied to by the mayor to my community. I'll never lie because the truth is more powerful. If you as a mayor say, we can't do this, we're failing at this. This is our we don't hear this. You just see the cutting the ribbons, all the little BS. Oh, we've removed 1400 people from a status. The mayor, when she came into office, she promised to remove 15,000 people off the streets. They've now taken that off the website like it never existed. You can go on the way back time machine and find 15,000. Yet now as she's running for reelection, she's bragging about maybe removing 1400. So set a sang my plan is a complete failure. I have failed for the last four years. But I'm gonna do it so different. They're not. No, It's. We did 14, we're bragging about 1400. So again I'm not a politician, so I don't need to lie to the people. I want to tell them the truth. The city is failing because of all this. These council members are failing because of all this. I want to go in as an outsider who's really just an Angelina. I'm an insider. I'm one of the. The people. And go in and tell them how the government is stealing from them, stealing our tax money and the laundering it through their friends and the nos and the powers that be and unplug all these things. And it doesn't need to be this way. So my. What I tell them is, I don't want to do this. I have to do this. And once it's done, I'm gone. I don't. I wanted to go back to feeding hummingbirds and selling crystals. So these people want to be career politicians. They want to. I didn't seek this out. I have a degree in political science from 20 years ago, and I've never chose to run for office. I've never. You know, so that tells you right there, this isn't what I set out. I didn't set out to be a politician, which is a career. I don't want it to be a career. I want it to be a change. I want to stop these people from destroying what I love. So the answer is just. I'm not like them.

[Juan Naula]

Just like a normal guy. I'm not one just picking up trash, decided to poop.

[Spencer Pratt]

You are way different. I can't. I'm not like mom. I can't do human poop. I had to leave a reality show once because they wanted me to hold a bucket with poop.

[Juan Naula]

And I said, I don't want to do that.

[Spencer Pratt]

Exactly.

[Juan Naula]

But you.

[Spencer Pratt]

So you're built a little more superpower than me.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah. I don't know. It's just like, okay, has to be done. A lot of people said. Because I had done it likes. Because social media, there's not about. Like, that's not even about me. It's about the late. It's about.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, they're saying there's people. Haters are saying, you're doing this just for life.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah, I'm picking up the. The poop. I'm doing all this because the. For the likes. I said, no, this is not about likes. This about the city, about you. I'm cleaning up your trash. I'm not. You know, I. I can. I can start a business right now.

[Spencer Pratt]

Haters are so crazy. Here you are cleaning the streets, cleaning up human, and they're going to try to be like, oh, he's doing this. Oh, my God, the Internet's crazy. But, so, yeah, hopefully I answer your questions. And again, you know, what I've learned is I don't have the politician answers. I can only be real and tell people I'm gonna do my best, and I don't want to do what they're doing.

[Juan Naula]

You almost like, you know, I don't have a plan. When I started doing this, I started learning and trying to do day by day better and better and better. That's what I had done. And. And I think you understand, but, you know, you have some knowledge, and then you just want to get in there and try to do the best you can for the city, for the people, for everybody. Because when I move here, I just, you know, we are here. I just. I was. When I was three months here and this fire started and I had no idea what was going on. And this is my first time here, and I am in shock to see all these beautiful places is gone.

[Spencer Pratt]

I'm in shock, too. You're sitting in our. In our bathtub right now. All right, well, this has been such a treat. I look forward to cleaning the city with you. Yeah, Professional career. Well, we're probably going to start June 2nd. We'll start planning when I win on June 2nd. Worst case scenario, you got a deal. We'll have to start. We'll have to start November 4th. Ish. Right?

[Juan Naula]

No, it was a pleasure. I got something from. From Ecuador. This is the tote bags I sell on my. On my social media to support my mission to clean LA. It's a hundred percent. It's handmade. This is 100 cotton with some alpaca wall. And anyone can play for my family

[Spencer Pratt]

links in your bio.

[Juan Naula]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

Look at this. Thank you for helping me keep the city of LA clean.

[Heidi Montag]

Beautiful.

[Spencer Pratt]

You are one of my favorite human beings ever. So everyone go to this wish list, get the trash bags that Karen Basura should be already supplying. And hopefully after they see this podcast, all of a sudden, watch, you're gonna get some emails real quick. I mean, yeah, hopefully. I mean, we want the city to work with you. That's the point. Of course I do.

[Juan Naula]

But remember, hey, I have emailed so many times and I still don't get the trash bags. Remember, you can. You will see my emails.

[Spencer Pratt]

They're there.

[Juan Naula]

But I want to say a shout out to Monica Rodriguez. I am so. She helped me a lot. Yes, Monica Rodriguez. You're doing good.

[Spencer Pratt]

Good job. All right, well, thank you so much, Juan. We appreciate you. God bless you.

[Heidi Montag]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Juan Naula]

A pleasure. And I'm so happy to be here. And hopefully it won't be the first and all the last one.

[Spencer Pratt]

That's right.

[Juan Naula]

Let's work together for a better life.

[Spencer Pratt]

I mean, I just want to do four years. You know, we should do it in four years.

[Juan Naula]

I want to do two.

[Spencer Pratt]

All right. Thank you.

[Juan Naula]

Thank you.

[Spencer Pratt]

Make sure you leave five star review wherever you're watching this. Like, share and obviously go hit clean LA with me.

[Juan Naula]

I said clean LA with me, baby.

[Heidi Montag]

That's right.

[Spencer Pratt]

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[Juan Naula]

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