The Fame Game with Heidi & Spencer

Episode: Whistleblower Tea & DWTS Drama: Heidi and Spencer Break It All Down
Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag

Episode Overview

In this edition of The Fame Game, Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag return with their trademark mix of humor, candor, and behind-the-scenes tea. The duo navigates topics ranging from their new community’s Halloween, health setbacks, and Dancing with the Stars drama, to whistleblower revelations about the Palisades Fire. Spencer shares exclusive fire investigation updates ahead of a major congressional hearing, while Heidi reflects on old friendships, motherhood, and her ongoing recovery. The episode is packed with emotional moments, sharp takes on pop culture, and a firsthand look at the hardest-fought advocacy for their neighborhood.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Life Updates: Health, Halloween, and Moving Forward

• Heidi’s Vocal Health
  • Heidi updates listeners on her persistent vocal issues:
    • “I have a hemorrhage on my vocal cords. It is improved, but I also now have a bacteria in my throat and something else, so I have to be on antibiotics…every single time I talk, it hurts. Feels like sharp pain in my throat.” (03:00)
• The First Halloween Since the Fire
  • The Pratts reflect on relocating and experiencing Halloween differently:
    • "It was tricky with trick or treating because we were used to the Palisades where every house would go all out...this was very spread out." – Heidi (04:14)
    • "It actually made me appreciate having a calmer Halloween." – Heidi (05:04)
• Parenting Challenges
  • They joke about candy restrictions and argue over what is healthy for their kids.
  • “I’m still trying to figure out why you’ve let these [candies in the house]…” – Spencer (05:31)

Influencer Life: Brand “Opportunities” & Jiu Jitsu Resurgence

• Skepticism of Influencer Trips
  • Spencer rejects a major brand’s offer, exposing the pitfalls of “all-expense paid” influencer events:
    • “Is this, like, a nice thing? You want me to go work for your company, pay for nannies, leave all the stuff we have going on in our life…” (09:04)
• Getting Back into Jiu Jitsu
  • Both discuss family motivation and self-improvement:
    • "I can't have [my son] going and then expect him to like it if I'm not in it. So I went and I showed him a video of me doing it, and he's like, when are we going?" – Spencer (09:32)
    • Spencer shares about setting an example by working out daily and giving up sugar.

Dancing With the Stars & Viral Fame

• DWTS and Internet Virality
  • Spencer is rooting for Val and Alex Earle and talks about past reality show connections now resurfacing:
    • "So I've been watching all of Val and Alex Earle's Dancing with the Stars...I'm so proud of them as a couple." (10:41)
  • Heidi reconnects with Ashley Dupre (Alex Earle’s stepmom), and praises her strength:
    • "She was so strong and empowered by herself and that and her story. And I love her...she is one of the sweetest, funniest." (12:11)
  • Plans to meet Ashley:
    • "She's coming into town to support Alex on Dancing with the Stars for Thanksgiving. And so her and I are going to try to meet up and have some drinks." (12:36)

Palisades Fire: Whistleblowers and the Fight for Accountability

• Congressional Hearing Announcement
  • Spencer outlines his advocacy and the upcoming congressional field hearing:
    • "Tomorrow, Senator Rick Scott and Senator Johnson and a secret congressman...are coming. But in the Palisades tomorrow, we're having a field hearing. And the senators are going to hear from senior citizens, fire victims..." (12:46)
• Whistleblower Revelations
  • Spencer reveals exclusive details about firefighter warnings that went unheeded:
    • “I had a whistleblower call me...and tell me I told the battalion chief not to pick up the hoses, that it was still smoldering everywhere...and this battalion chief ignored him and said, pull the hose.” (14:13)
  • Explains that multiple firefighters objected to unsafe practices, resulting in tragedy:
    • “That’s four firefighters that were not okay with that situation. So that’s how obvious the smoldering was.” (15:59)
  • Spencer explains the legal responsibility of the state and the chain of command that left the community vulnerable:
    • “It’s the state’s legal obligation to put their state park rangers or employees parked on that burn scar...They didn’t do any of this.” (15:59)
  • On the official narrative blaming a lone arsonist:
    • “The Palisade’s fire was not because of Winderschnicker or whatever his name is. He burned eight acres on New Year's Eve...that guy did not burn the Palisades down.” (15:59)
• Media Complicity and Seeking Justice
  • Describes his efforts to get the story out and how the LA Times and NBC responded.
  • Captures the emotional burden on whistleblowers and first responders:
    • “The first firefighter that reached out to me said it was weighing on his soul so much that he had to reach out and, like, get the truth out.” (21:24)
    • “I talk to a lot of firefighters that the main takeaway is that the command structure is trash and it's not what it used to be. They're understaffed, they're under budget.” (22:09)
• Dire Warnings and a Broader Message
  • Spencer predicts disaster if systemic issues aren’t addressed:
    • “I keep on saying all this because I keep saying Hollywood is next, Bel Air is next, Brentwood...your house is going to be burned down.” (22:09)
  • Expresses frustration at governmental inaction:
    • “If they don't even want to get caught, all you do is put on a ski mask, helmet, a stolen E-bike...it's not rocket science now.” (24:39)

Emotional Reflection & Support

• Heidi’s Support and Community Pride
  • Emotional exchange about Spencer’s advocacy:
    • “I'm very proud of you for creating this congressional hearing and this importance about the message around Palisades and continuing to fight for…” – Heidi (25:13)
    • “I'm sure crying doesn't help…[my voice]” – Spencer (25:35)
    • “...you are just continuing to fight that fight, that is...” – Heidi (25:36)

Lighter Moments & Upcoming Projects

• Boxing Mishap
  • Spencer shares a comedic story about being surprised with a real workout by a professional boxer:
    • “He’s like, do you not know who I am? Like, I’m sorry, I don’t. He’s like, I’m a boxer...I got your gloves. Put your gloves on...I’m starting to think I’m on a hidden camera show now.” (28:13)
• Documentaries and Book News
  • Updates on forthcoming documentaries about homelessness and the fire; teasing his upcoming book The Guy You Loved to Hate and major press tour:
    • “I have the homeless industrial complex documentary. Very excited about that...And then I’m doing the fire documentary with Gabriel Mann. And then we got the book coming out, so shout out.” (30:07)
• Pranks, Social Media & Sign-Offs
  • Lighthearted sarcasm as Spencer discusses fashion choices for the hearing and the couple sign off with their signature banter and promotional plugs.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On chain of command and responsibility:
  "The first firefighter that reached out to me said it was weighing on his soul so much that he had to reach out and, like, get the truth out. But...he's like, it's a military command structure." – Spencer (21:24)
• On systemic neglect in wildfire response:
  "If you don't start...calling out these people to come do your fire breaks...your house is going to be burned down ... this isn't like a Palisades only thing." – Spencer (22:09)
• On influencer trips:
  "Is this, like, a nice thing? You want me to go work for your company, pay for nannies, leave all the stuff we have going on in our life to then go, like, promote your product...?" – Spencer (09:04)
• On Heidi's resilience:
  "...I'm doing great." – Heidi (03:25)

Important Segment Timestamps

• Heidi’s Health & Halloween Reflection: 02:59 – 05:35
• DWTS & Viral Fame, Reunion with Ashley Dupree: 10:41 – 12:46
• Palisades Fire, Whistleblower Accounts: 12:46 – 24:39
• Emotional Support on Fire Advocacy: 25:13 – 25:46
• Boxing Story: 28:11 – 29:53
• Documentaries & Book Tour News: 30:07 – 31:12

Tone & Closing Thoughts

The episode blends Spencer’s relentless energy and skepticism with Heidi’s warmth and optimism, creating an engaging, honest, and sometimes vulnerable portrait of a couple determined to shape their own story and speak hard truths. Whether you’re following ongoing Hollywood drama or the fight for justice in the wake of disaster, this is classic Speidi: sharp, funny, fearless, and deeply personal.