
2025 has been one of the most eye-opening years of my founder journey — personally, professionally, and strategically. Instead of sharing a highlight reel, I want to share the real lessons that moved the needle for me. Some changed how I think about business. Others changed how I think about myself.
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Hey, guys, Nathan here. Welcome back to another solo episode. Let's be honest, 2025 has been one of the most eye opening years in business for me. You know, whether you're building your first product or you're scaling, I think it's important to share real lessons, not just a highlight reel. So today I just want to really talk to you about, like the five biggest lessons that I've learned this year and kind of my reflections. I love that Hormozi does his ending year reflections. I'm trying to kind of take a bit off that. So some of these are strategic, some are personal, but all of them have moved the needle for me in a massive way.
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The first one that's hit me hard more than ever is a founder. If you don't have repeat customers, you don't have a business, you have a promotion. And if you don't build a repeat business, you're just renting growth. And I was reminded of this by the conversation I had with John Paul, our good friend jp. He's the founder of Paul Mitchell Systems and patron Tequila. And he said something to me so powerful. He said, the real money in the second sale, right? And I want you to imagine when you're building your business, imagine if your business on the first day of every month, you didn't even need one new customer to be profitable. That's what he's built with both of his companies, Right? It's all about the repeat business. And you can have the best marketing funnel in the world, but if you're not building something people come back for, it's A leaky bucket. So now every product, every campaign, every, even the content we build is run through one lens. Does this help build a long term customer relationship or is it a spike? And that's what I'm thinking about. That's how I'm looking at our business model, that's how I'm looking at our products. That's how I'm looking at everything we're doing. Well, next one. AI and automation isn't a trend, it's a superpower. So if you are not integrating AI into your business right now, whether it's content, workflows, automating customer experience, analyzing data, using automation to do repetitive tasks, you are falling behind. Like I used to think AI was one of these things where you just, you know, wait until, you know, you hear everybody's doing this one thing, then you jump on. But this year I saw firsthand what it can do, especially if you're on the cutting edge. We implemented, you know, custom GPTs for internal coaching, SOP creation, product validation on the sales side, on the data analytics side, you name it. And it's compounding time that's just insanely saved and it's actually helping our students. It has been wild. We launched an AI software that finds trending products. I didn't even realize just how easy it is to build software now. It is crazy. So my reflection here is we're going to double down even more in 2026. We're going to start really building a dedicated arm in the business, resources that are fully focused on implementing automation, stretching all the tools that we pay for. Like we pay HubSpot, like multiple six figures a year, like crazy numbers guys. And that tool is so powerful. They have so much automation and so many powerful AI things that we can do. And they're like, we need to double down. We're doubling down more than ever as a competitive advantage. And don't always look to hiring a resource like a person. When you can actually look at where can you automate, where can you use AI to replace that? It's so powerful. Another one which is a bit more personal. And that's if you're stuck, what is it that you're avoiding? You know, every time I felt stuck in 2025, whether it's growth, hiring, direction, I found I was avoiding something. And usually that thing wasn't just a task, it was fear. Fear of rejection, fear of failure, fear of a tough conversation, there was something deeper. And it's just a reminder, like when you go a layer deeper and actually confront that fear you get unstuck fast. Like, I've been doing work with a couple of coaches, one a high performance coach, and. And he's really teaching me around. Like, the bottleneck in most businesses isn't strategy, it's the founder avoiding what needs to be faced. And oftentimes, when you unblock that thing and find out what the internal fear is around it, and even just shining a spotlight on it and then coming up with a game plan and roadmap to move forward, it is so incredibly powerful. So there's a brilliant framework out of Harvard called Immunity to Change. And it's this idea that we say we want to grow, but deep down, we have competing commitments or unconscious, conscious fears that block us. So maybe you say you want to grow your business, maybe you say you want to start your business or, you know, hire a team or raise money, but if you're being honest, you're avoiding something like conflict, visibility, or even the pressure that comes with success. And this model has really helped me realize you can't just do more to grow. You can't just work harder. You have to unblock yourself. You have to figure out what that fear is that's really driving your inaction. And when I applied this lens this year, it shifted everything for me. How I move, how I think about my day, the sticking points, what am I avoiding and why? What should I do next? And I found clarity every single time. So the next time you're stuck, don't ask, what should I do? Ask, what am I avoiding and why? Another one I want to talk about. Done a lot of deals this year at Founder and been thinking a lot about negotiation. And there was some negotiations that almost didn't go our way this year. And, you know, I'm not going to go into details of who or what, because they might be listening to this podcast, but it reminded me this. When you walk into a deal, if you're prepared to walk away, you have the negotiation from power, not panic. And this doesn't just apply to deals. It applies to hiring, partnerships, even what opportunities you say yes and no to. So I'm taking this energy into 2026. Detachment with discipline. Be clear on what you want, but never be desperate to get it. People can sense that energy, and the person that's prepared to walk is always the one getting the best deal. Another one I want to talk about. It doesn't happen overnight. It happens with pressure and patience. So this is a reminder. This one I've struggled with for years. And it's a new lesson. Nothing that Worked for us in 2025 or any year in business that matter. Worked immediately from launching courses, rebuilding email flows, testing new offers, everything, iterating, testing, waiting. The real lesson is the juice worth the squeeze. So sometimes the breakthrough isn't the idea, it's your willingness to stay in it long, to let the idea work right. And what happens is you start this new thing and you get super excited about it and then you have this relentless optimism and then you actually get into it and then it's harder than you think and then you go, okay, this doesn't work. And then you move to the next thing. And that's a constant cycle and trap that I've got myself into. So now I've got a different approach. I've got a really strong patience, I've got a really strong data backed decision making. I talked about this in another episode and I just know now and I plan accordingly, that I plan for the worst and hope for the best. And no things take double the time I think it will take. So as you look forward into 2026, I want you guys to reflect. What are you building that last? What fear is holding you back and what systems are compounding your effort? And what are you willing to walk away from? So I hope this helped you. As always, guys, if you have any questions, a topic you'd like me to cover in 2026, just DM me instagram.com Nathan Chan my handle is Nathan Chan. Let's keep building together. I'll see you in the new year. Can't wait to make 2026 my best year yet. All right, I'll speak to you soon.
Episode 616: (Solo) 5 Honest Business Lessons I’m Taking Into 2026
Release Date: December 23, 2025
In this reflective solo episode, Nathan Chan, CEO of Foundr, shares five of the most impactful and honest business lessons he’s learned from his experiences in 2025. Drawing inspiration from end-of-year reflections done by others in the entrepreneurship space (notably Alex Hormozi), Nathan breaks down key realizations that have shaped his mindset and approach as he looks ahead to 2026. His insights cover customer relationships, the power of AI, confronting avoidance, negotiation strategies, and embracing patience.
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“Imagine if your business, on the first day of every month, you didn’t even need one new customer to be profitable. That’s what [John Paul DeJoria] has built… It’s all about the repeat business.”
“If you are not integrating AI into your business right now… you are falling behind.”
“When you unblock that thing and find out what the internal fear is... and even just shining a spotlight on it... it is so incredibly powerful.”
“When you walk into a deal, if you’re prepared to walk away, you have the negotiation from power, not panic.”
“Sometimes the breakthrough isn’t the idea. It’s your willingness to stay in it long enough to let the idea work.”
| Timestamp | Topic / Quote | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------| | 01:37 | Repeat customers as a business foundation | | 03:27 | AI and automation as critical for growth | | 05:53 | Getting unstuck by confronting what you’re avoiding| | 09:32 | Negotiation: Detachment and discipline | | 11:05 | Success through pressure and patience |
Nathan closes by urging listeners to reflect as they head into 2026:
[14:37] Nathan invites listeners to connect and submit future topic ideas via Instagram (@Nathan Chan), and ends with a hopeful outlook:
“Let’s keep building together. I’ll see you in the new year. Can’t wait to make 2026 my best year yet.”
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