The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan
Episode 627: How This Law School Dropout Built an Iconic Aussie Fashion Brand in Just 5 Years
Date: January 29, 2026
Guest: Leah Georgantis, Founder of Girls With Gems & Sneaky Link
Episode Overview
In this energetic and revealing episode, Nathan Chan sits down with Leah Georgantis, founder of the beloved Australian boutique Girls With Gems and its breakout private label, Sneaky Link. Leah shares her journey from law school graduate to fashion entrepreneur, detailing how she took over her mother’s struggling boutique, maneuvered through the chaos of COVID lockdowns, and reinvented her brand with relentless authenticity, viral campaigns, and a community-focused social presence. The conversation dives deep into the nuts and bolts of content creation, retail strategy, founder mindset, and the realities of burnout, offering a masterclass for e-commerce and retail founders eager to create a lasting, differentiated business.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
From Law School to Entrepreneurship
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Taking Over the Family Business
- Leah’s path was set for law (“I was 100% going to become a lawyer…” [02:10]), but when her mother decided to leave Girls With Gems, Leah faced a pivotal decision: corporate law or retail entrepreneurship.
- Quote: “You can take it over if you want to, but if you take it over, you have to keep it. I’m not coming back to save you.” — Leah on her mother’s ultimatum [02:40].
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Crisis & Reinvention During COVID
- Within six months of taking over, COVID hit, forcing layoffs and a pause on business as usual.
- Used lockdown as an opportunity to rethink everything—shifted to loungewear and activewear, which led to explosive growth (“COVID lockdown was probably one of my favorite times of my life” [04:13]).
Relentless Social Media & Content Creation
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Doubling Down on Authenticity
- As others posted aspirational model photos, Leah’s team posted daily, relatable IG stories and videos featuring real conversations and real body types.
- Quote: “People want to see normal, relatable people… just talk about, like, real life stuff.” [06:27]
- Posting frequency was extreme: 6–9 Instagram posts daily at peak—sustained by dropping perfectionism (“Don’t let your ego stop you from posting imperfect content.” [08:53]).
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Measuring Impact
- Engagement was tangible: direct DMs, recognition in public, and brand loyalty that translated into sustainable sales (“It was likes, engagement, DMs about how much it was impacting people…” [07:51]).
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Iterating on Content
- “We just kept throwing everything at the wall to see what would stick, and then it would stick… and then it wasn’t really sticking… okay, let’s go again.” [08:53]
- Staying ahead: others began copying, but innovation was constant.
Viral Campaigns & Creative Risks
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AI-Driven Storytelling
- Early adopter of AI campaign imagery (posed in front of a white wall, digitally placed in glamorous locations). It was a massive brand awareness win, even sparking belief among followers that they had jetted off to Europe. “People actually believe we flew to Europe.” [11:08]
- Leah recognizes the fleeting edge of trends: “I don’t think that would work today because it would be boring… anyone can do it.” [11:33]
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Big-Budget, Bold Ideas
- Campaigns escalate yearly—this year, Girls With Gems staff literally jumped out of a plane for the “Five Days of Christmas” event.
- Quote: “That is the most epic campaign I’ve ever seen. I’ve never seen a campaign better in Australia.” [17:09]
Retail Philosophy: Anti-Discounting & Brand Positioning
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Deliberately Limiting Sales
- Leah and her husband, who manages operations, take a stand against constant discounting and the Black Friday rush.
- Quote: “Our customer is taught always to buy at full price. We also don’t have a 10% discount when you sign up.” [18:34]
- Only three sales per year—ensures premium brand positioning and long-term profitability, resisting the SEO-driven, margin-crushing cycles of mass retail.
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Black Friday Stance
- Candid critique of Black Friday’s encroachment into Australia: “Black Friday is actually meant for America… it’s only been around for like four years [in Australia], really.” [19:03]
Building Sneaky Link: Private Label Power
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Genesis & Growth
- Sneaky Link rose from a desire to offer unique, viral basics not found elsewhere—pivoted from designer prints to year-round basics, especially popular cargo pants.
- Today, Sneaky Link accounts for ~50% of company revenue [16:22].
- Leah’s “throw it all at the wall” approach initially meant experimenting with prints, then narrowing focus to market-driven, highly wearable pieces.
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Production & Scaling Realities
- Early hurdles: Sourcing was daunting, requiring resourcefulness and outside help as a non-technical founder.
- Leveraged existing infrastructure from Girls With Gems—de-risking launch costs and allowing an iterative approach to inventory (minimum orders of 100 units per piece).
Behind the Scenes: Burnout, Team, and Founder Life
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Burnout Cycles & Honest Recovery
- Leah speaks openly about the cycles of burnout running a retail business, and the unglamorous reality of early-stage entrepreneurship.
- Quote: “So I completely burned myself out… then I was like, okay, let’s just focus on the one business and let’s grow this one.” [13:01]
- Her recovery: therapy, rest, boundaries, and layering in professional support as the business grew (“I’m just not working probably the hours I was working back then.” [14:22]).
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Bringing in Her Husband
- Leah’s creative vision is complemented by her husband’s operational prowess. Their clear division of roles and willingness to set boundaries maintains personal and professional balance.
- “I can’t do this for a day longer without you. Like, I need you to come in.” [22:16]
Community & Narrative-Driven Content
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Team as Characters; Founder as Storyteller
- Successfully weaves staff and family into content narratives, making the community feel like insiders.
- Approaches staff departures with resilience—characters come and go, but the narrative sustains engagement.
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Inspiration and Process
- Leah describes the TikTok “brain” (“Film things happening. Just film it. You need to realize when a moment’s happening and you need to get your phone out and film it.” [53:02]) and ongoing idea-gathering as the secret to staying fresh and relatable.
- Fun, lighthearted, but always authentic: “People know when you’re being authentic and people know when you’re trying to be authentic.” [48:12]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“Don’t let your ego stop you from posting imperfect content.”
— Leah Georgantis [08:53] -
“We just kept throwing everything at the wall to see what would stick… you need to keep reinventing the wheel.”
— Leah [08:53] -
On anti-Black Friday:
“Our customer is taught to always buy at full price… Black Friday is actually meant for America for Thanksgiving. Why has it become an Australian phenomenon?”
— Leah [18:34, 19:03] -
“That is the most epic campaign I’ve ever seen. I’ve never seen a campaign better in Australia.”
— Leah on the skydiving Five Days of Christmas campaign [17:09] -
“You’re the only person capable of actually doing what you want to do, so you need to actually do it.”
— Leah’s advice to founders [54:49]
Major Timestamps & Segments
- 02:10–03:01 – Leah’s origin story: from law school to running the boutique
- 04:13–05:11 – COVID reset: rethinking inventory, explosive loungewear demand
- 06:27–08:53 – Social media reinvention: six to nine IG posts daily, the power of authenticity
- 10:08–12:07 – Viral AI campaigns and evolving content strategies
- 13:01–15:57 – Burnout reality & recovery; the truth about early-stage grind
- 16:22–19:03 – Launching Sneaky Link; why they reject Black Friday
- 22:01–24:26 – Dynamics of working with a spouse in business
- 29:01–31:13 – Sneaky Link’s early launch logistics, resourcing, and risk mitigation
- 32:31–33:14 – Manufacturing philosophy: sacrificing margin for quality
- 35:18–38:57 – Growth challenges: space, hiring, and disciplined scaling
- 41:49–43:07 – Being copied: how to outpace imitators through steady innovation
- 45:28–48:12 – Building brand narrative & authentic content without overexposing the founder
- 49:23–53:45 – Handling staff turnover in content-driven brands; planning narrative content
- 54:49–55:27 – Parting founder advice
Practical Takeaways for Founders
- Perfection Paralysis is the Enemy: Just start posting; obsessing over “polished” content slows momentum and stifles authenticity.
- Iterate Relentlessly: When a content format, campaign, or product stops working, pivot quickly—don’t get precious.
- Community is Built on Relatability: Let your personal story and the personalities of your team shine; it creates buy-in and loyalty bigger than any single product.
- Protect Your Brand’s Position: Avoiding discounts and artificial sales cycles teaches customers to value the brand, not just the price.
- Outscale the Copycats: Let competitors imitate your past—always move towards the next idea.
- Be Transparent About the Grind: Burnout is real—acknowledge the challenge, get help, and know scaling up means building a team, not burning out.
What's Next for Leah and Girls With Gems
- Moving into a 1,000-square-meter warehouse for major scaling [44:06]
- First-ever full office fitout and creation of a dedicated “Sneaky Link room”
- International e-commerce expansion on the horizon (but focusing on Australia until systems are ready)
- Continually escalating campaign creativity and innovation
Final Founder Wisdom
“Do what you said you were going to do. Just do it. Because no one else is going to do it for you. You actually have to do it yourself.”
— Leah Georgantis [54:49]
This episode is a must-listen for any founder facing the crossroads of reinvention, curious about authentic content strategy, or committed to building a truly differentiated retail brand.
