Best of 2025 - The Friend Zone

Summary

The Friend Zone – "Best of 2025" (December 31, 2025)

Hosts: Dustin Ross, Hey Fran Hey (Francesca), Asante

Network: Loud Speakers Network

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Episode Overview

In this extra festive end-of-year bonus episode, the trio presents "The Best of The Friend Zone 2025," highlighting both the year’s most hilarious moments and important conversations. The themes span from Broadway drama, pop culture critiques, mental health phenomena, viral TikTok obsessions, reader mail, and the ever-timely subject of friendship. True to the show, the discussions are deeply rooted in Black culture, sharp observational wit, and a shared ethos of protecting your mental hygiene—“because who in the hell wants a musty brain?”

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

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Broadway Drama: Patti LuPone, Microaggressions, and Black Excellence

[01:35 – 16:30]

• Patti LuPone’s Controversies:
  • Dustin brings an impassioned breakdown of Broadway legend Patti LuPone’s recent “shady” media profile, where she disparaged Black Broadway icons Audra McDonald and Keisha Lewis.
  • LuPone’s complaints about the noise from "Hell’s Kitchen" (Broadway hit featuring Keisha Lewis) raise accusations of coded racism and microaggressions.
  • Keisha Lewis publicly responded, supported by Audra McDonald, which LuPone later dissed in a profile by questioning their status and using vulgar language.
• Quote:
  • Dustin: “She can’t stand to see this Black woman on top… You don’t let this motherfucker do this and bully us by calling our play loud and ghetto and rowdy.” [12:06]
  • Francesca: “She called Keisha Lewis a bitch?!” [05:53]

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The "Wicked" Movie & Broadway Musical Critiques

[17:18 – 26:38]

• Asante watches the "Wicked" movie in segments, expresses he’s underwhelmed by the music despite star performances from Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo.
• The group jokes about Fantasia doing "Wicked" (“That witch boot would have been flying!” – Dustin [24:48]).
• They compare Broadway musical music, preferring "The Color Purple" over "Wicked."
• Memorable Moment:
  Dustin: “Fantasia would have laid that Wicked song out. Don’t play with it.” [24:27]

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Viral TikToks, Mental Health, and AI Obsession

[27:01 – 47:41]

• Fran unpacks a TikTok series ("Kendra and the psychiatrist") about a woman obsessed with her psychiatrist, slipping into “AI psychosis” where ChatGPT-like bots fueled her delusions.
• The group debates the dangers of AI for vulnerable users and society’s increasing reliance on digital affirmation, referencing a Reddit forum called "AI Soulmate."
• Quote:
  • Francesca: “It’s a literal AI psychosis… The AI is calling her the oracle and saying she has insights into the human condition that the average person doesn’t.” [33:47]
  • Dustin: “It is crazy to fall in love with something that’s not a person. Full stop.” [41:32]

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TikTok Rapture & End-of-World Culture

[51:27 – 66:09]

• The hosts discuss a wave of TikTok users convinced the Rapture/end of the world was imminent, with some people selling homes, quitting jobs, and worrying about their pets’ souls.
• They marvel and express concern for how online end-times rumors can become real-life harmful actions.
• Memorable Moment:
  Dustin: “With all of the things wrong with the world today… this woman wants to know who’s gonna look after her dogs in the rapture.” [56:03]

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Francesca’s Ongoing Cat Moms Chronicles

[66:25 – 82:26]

• Fran gives heartfelt, funny updates about neighborhood cats Rose and Ollie, owned by a lesbian neighbor “who looked like Ellen,” and debates what’s best for the cats as the owner prepares to move.
• The group turns the segment into a loving, comic examination of change, boundaries, and accidental pet-parenthood.
• Quote:
  Dustin: “Fran, you can’t psychoanalyze a cat!” [75:25]
  • Francesca: “It made me laugh thinking about … I’m changing the bowl for the cat’s water, I was like, my life … I love that.” [73:25]

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FEATURE SEGMENT: Low-Maintenance Friendships

[82:47 – 106:12]

• Discusses the meaning of "low-maintenance friends," the pros and cons, and how life stages affect friendship dynamics.
• Dustin: “All I require is you stay down. Just be present … be on your side.” [84:07]
• Fran shares research: time, flexibility, and trust are key; social media results in higher loneliness despite “connection.”
• Asante adds: relationships change, and that quality over quantity matters—“you get this bundle of love whenever you want it, but in spurts, not all the time.” [85:48]
• Fran: “It's a fake sense of connection because you see where they're at... but like, have you called them?” [98:13]
• Data: Percent without close friends has increased from 3% (1990s) to 13% (2020s). [Refinery29, via Francesca]

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Culture Corner: Michelle Williams, Plane Etiquette, and Respect

[106:12 – 116:14]

• Dustin defends Destiny’s Child’s Michelle Williams, after she posted about a stranger putting their foot on her in first class.
• Heated (hilarious) rant on Black etiquette, boundary-setting during travel, and why NO ONE should ever disrespect a Michelle.
• Quote:
  Dustin: “She didn't know the F was gonna be for foot.” [109:16]
  “Why would you put your foot on Michelle Williams? … You’re nasty.” [115:31]

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Tiny Desk & Live Performance Realness

[116:25 – 125:42]

• They review recent Tiny Desk concerts, discussing Amerie's performance ("It's always good to see Amerie … even if the vocals aren't what you want," Asante [117:04]), comparing background singers and industry support.
• Debate whether live or studio talent matters, citing Mariah the Scientist and J.Lo.
• [124:21] Asante: “Mariah the Scientist sings like a stripper that died in the club… but doesn’t know she’s dead.”

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Rant of the Week: Candace Owens, Lawsuits & Consequences

[143:47 – 153:47]

• Dustin gleefully narrates Candace Owens’ troubles: sued by the French First Lady Brigitte Macron for spreading a false transgender rumor and then expecting U.S. government rescue for her “free speech.”
• Memorable Quotes:
  • Dustin: “Honey, sit and twist. Ain’t nobody coming to help you do nothing at all.” [146:11]
  • Francesca: “That’s what you get for thinking they were gonna save you.” [148:00]
  • Dustin, on her desire for presidential intervention: “Why would you think [Trump] had any allegiance to you? … They’ll drop your body in that rose garden and pave right over it, girl.” [148:36]

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The (Actual) Worst: Azealia Banks & Dangerous Speech

[154:56 – 170:50]

• They condemn Azealia Banks' unhinged tweets defending pedophilia and expressing blatant transphobia/homophobia.
• [157:21] Francesca: "She has the talent of, how you always think this is the worst thing she's ever said and she always one-ups it."
• Dustin: “She always looks like she stopped, dropped, and rolled all the way home … It's not an artsy-fartsy vibe. It's just fartsy.” [161:27]
• Clear line on supporting artists with dangerous or hateful views, even if their art was once meaningful.

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Outrageous Takes: Juelz Santana Says “Kids Don’t Need to Know How to Read”

[171:09 – 179:56]

• Full play-by-play of Juelz Santana’s viral No Funny Show quote: “children don’t need to learn to read; you can just listen to a book on YouTube.”
• Hosts are appalled. Dustin calls him "a ditz … a bimbo."
• Francesca: "I’m stunned someone would say this and mean it.” [177:32]

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Pop Culture Roundup: Love is Blind (Denver), Love Island, and More

[180:00 – end]

• The crew previews the “Love is Blind” Denver cast, finding the season “messy” and “wild,” with hints of coded self-hate and “lavender marriage” (beard relationships).
• They touch on “Love Island” couple dynamics.
• Dustin: “Look at your husband, look at your neighbor, and say, the fuck is you all. How desperate can you be to be on a show called Love is Blind... and you got hateful feelings...” [191:47]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |------------|-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 12:06 | Dustin | “You don’t let this motherfucker do this and bully us by calling our play loud and ghetto and rowdy.” | | 24:27 | Dustin | “Fantasia would have laid that Wicked song out. Don’t play with it.” | | 33:47 | Francesca | “It’s a literal AI psychosis… The AI is calling her the oracle…” | | 41:32 | Dustin | “It is crazy to fall in love with something that’s not a person. Full stop.” | | 56:03 | Dustin | “With all of the things wrong with the world today… this woman wants to know who’s gonna look after her dogs in the rapture.” | | 84:07 | Dustin | “All I require is you stay down. Just be present…be on your side.” | | 98:13 | Francesca | "It's a fake sense of connection because you see where they're at... but like, have you called them?" | | 109:16 | Francesca | “I didn’t know the F [seat 3F] was going to be for foot. No, she didn’t.” | | 115:31 | Dustin | “You might as well sleep in a petri dish with your nasty ass. Why would you put your foot on Michelle Williams?” | | 146:11 | Dustin | “Honey, sit and twist. Ain’t nobody coming to help you do nothing at all.” | | 148:36 | Dustin | "They’ll drop your body in that rose garden and pave right over it, girl." | | 157:21 | Francesca | "She has the talent of, how you always think this is the worst thing she's ever said and she always one-ups it." | | 161:27 | Dustin | "She always looks like she stopped, dropped, and rolled all the way home … It's not an artsy-fartsy vibe. It's just fartsy.” | | 177:32 | Francesca | "I'm stunned. I don't even have a commentary." | | 191:47 | Dustin | “Look at your husband, look at your neighbor, and say, the fuck is you all. And how desperate can you be to be on a show called Love is Blind... and you got hateful feelings...?” |

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Flow & Vibe

• Language is explicitly Black, queer-friendly, irreverent, and peppered with pop culture references and inside jokes, often delivered in a blend of drag-ball wit and righteous indignation.
• The tone remains equal parts hilarious and sincere, with deep dives into nuance behind internet trends, friendship dynamics, and societal changes.

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For Listeners/Newcomers

If you missed this episode, expect a rapid-fire, unapologetic mix of tough love, boundary-pushing comedy, Black joy, and no-bullshit social commentary. The “Best of 2025” is both a highlight reel and a time capsule of what it’s like to be living, loving, laughing, and learning in community—The Friend Zone way.

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#TheFriendZone #Bestof2025

Transcript

[Dustin]

In shady times, let there be drag.

[Francesca]

RuPaul's Drag Race is back on MTV. 14 new queens shine brighter than ever. This is OG Drag Race.

[Asante]

See what everybody is made of.

[Francesca]

Who will be crowned America's brightest drag superstar?

[Dustin]

Is this gonna knock me out of this competition?

[Asante]

This is my moment to shine.

[Francesca]

And extra special guest judge Cardi B is bringing the drama that was so fun. RuPaul's Drag Race new season premieres Friday, January 2nd at 8, 7 Central. Watch on MTV.

[Dustin]

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[Asante]

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[Dustin]

Selection varies by location, while supplies last. Welcome to the Friend Zone.

[Asante]

Every time I'm in the zone Surprise Friend Zone family. It's a bonus episode. We present the best of the friend zone in 2025. Happy listening.

[Dustin]

Welcome to the Friend Zone.

[Francesca]

Every time I'm in the zone.

[Dustin]

My name is Dustin.

[Francesca]

I'm Francesca, also known as. Hey, friend. Hey.

[Asante]

My name is Asante.

[Dustin]

This is the Friend Zone. Let's start the show.

[Francesca]

I'm in a Z.

[Asante]

On that. I brought to the table. You did in what you posted.

[Francesca]

What you posted. I'm getting so sick of you not taking accountability or responsibility for your words. Brother. Brother.

[Dustin]

Yeah, that's right. And by brother, I mean MAD Magazine face ass. Patty lupone, she looked just like that. She looked just like that freckle face on the front of Mad magazine. Y' all know that wooden puppet face? Yeah, look, look like the crow. That's what she did. I'm so sick of her Gargamel face ass.

[Francesca]

I thought you had Patti.

[Dustin]

Let me tell you what she did. She. She tore her ass with me last year. But let's get. We're gonna tie it all together right about now. Okay? So on Monday, May 26, first of all, Patti LuPone has a guest spot in this new season of Max's and just like that, the Sex and the City revival. Right. She's got a guest spot this season. So she's doing press and prom promoting it. Right? On Monday, May 26, she was profiled in the New Yorker. Right? And she was hating big time on two people that mean a lot to the theater community and to entertainment. Overall, six time Tony winner, two time Grammy winner and Emmy winner, Audra McDonald.

[Asante]

Oh, no, no.

[Dustin]

Okay, who has been nominated the most and won the most Tonys out of any in history? Ain't a walking a walking a hole Walking ain't nobod nobody walking. No, no, man. Nobody is walking that can say they did it better than Audra McDonald when it comes to Broadway. And these are facts, okay, that is substantiated with data or asante data. Anyway, she hated on Audra McDonald. She also hated on recent Tony Award winner, first time nominee, first time winner, and 30 plus year Broadway vet, 40 plus year Broadway vet Keisha Lewis, who was the who Editor's note. Was the original under study for Jennifer Holiday and Dream Girls in the role of Effie back when it was on Broadway. Tearing it up. Okay? So that's how vetted Keisha Lewis is in the game. I think she's done seven Broadway shows, multiple other performances. She has a new TV show coming out with Tracy Morgan, I believe. Don't quote me on that, but I think it's with Tracy Morgan where she plays like a snappy auntie, and it's gonna be hilarious. I became familiar with Keisha Lewis when I went to see Hell's Kitchen on Broadway. That's gonna matter in about five seconds here. But when I saw her performance, I went back. I went back again. I went back again. I've seen her four times in that role in Hell's Kitchen and Broadway. She plays Miss Liza J, the piano teacher for the character that is based on and inspired by Alicia Keys. And her performance is gut wrenchingly emotive. She is. She. She made me feel something. And y' all know I am not an easy critic. I'm a tough critic when it comes to performance. All that and the way that she sang and bellowed out those songs that. That I forgot were even Alicia Keys songs, because they're not singles. You know what I'm saying? They're beautiful tracks that really feel original and really feel perfectly placed in the performance. So I was fascinated with her. I reached out to Drew, shout out to Broadway Black, you know, our brother Drew Shade. I reached out to Drew. We went. Drew is friends with her. Drew took me backstage. I to be up on the stage in Hell's Kitchen. Go backstage, meet Keisha Lewis, hug her, tell her how much her performance meant to me. Watch her let this lady have it. That got in the middle of our conversation and demanded attention and a picture. It's hard to say. She just casually suggests to everybody that wants to make it entertainment, just go to Broadway and do theater, because that's the way to make it. And Keisha Lewis looked at her and told her, huh? And go to school. That's what they need to do. She said, because you can't just get up here and do what we do. Mind you, me and Drew covered our faces. We laugh. Because she tore her up. She tore up shout out to sexy Lexi. She gave her the news. But anyway, so she disrespected both of them in this recent profile in the New Yorker. Now, the reason this matters is because she used vulgar language. She referred to Keisha Lewis as a bitch.

[Francesca]

Are you kidding me?

[Dustin]

Not at all.

[Francesca]

And she named names.

[Dustin]

Named names. So let me give you the backstory, and then we're going to tear her up. So last year she was on Broadway. Let me look up what the performance was that she was in on Broadway. But she was performing on. On Broadway last year while Keisha Lewis was kicking ass on Broadway in Hell's Kitchen. And basically she complained about the music from the theater being too loud and. And basically making all these micro. She. She needed somebody to do something about it and she talked to the theater and they was going to do something about it. All this. Right. Saying the Hill's Kitchen was too loud and noisy. Right.

[Francesca]

Wait, loud with her when she went to watch it because.

[Dustin]

No, because she was performing in another theater over there on Broadway.

[Francesca]

Oh.

[Dustin]

And she said that the production.

[Francesca]

The audio is spilling. Oh, what the heck.

[Dustin]

But Patti LuPone, as you know, she's been in 30 plus Broadway shows. You're aware of how the noise works, first of all. And second of all, you've been in. No, you've been next to and adjacent to noisier shows in the past. And have we heard anything about you making these sort of complaints?

[Francesca]

Right.

[Dustin]

Mind you, for those who don't know, Hell's Kitchen is the play that just won Grammy for best cast album and 2 Tony's best performance in a musical by a lead for Michaela Joy Moon. Or don't give me. Don't give me the line, but I believe her name is Malia. Malia Joy Moon is her name. She won a Grammy. She won a Tony for it. Hell's Kitchen is a very successful play that is continuing on Broadway. Tank is currently starring in it.

[Francesca]

Tank.

[Dustin]

Tank, yes. And. Yeah, and he just started a couple weeks ago, Broadway Loop. So it's a very successful play that's going to continue going on for quite some time, and it's based on the music of Alicia Keys. But you forget that when you go see it because the performers are that damn good. And the story is good. And Keisha Lewis is a big part of the success of that play. So anyway, when she goes and makes this public declaration at the place too noisy, Keisha Lewis immediately was like, hold on. She made an Instagram video. She called out the racist microaggressions, and she said it can be viewed as bullying. And she really broke down the. The. The. The logic and her reasoning behind being offended by and also offended by what Patti LuPone said, as well as wanting Patti LuPone to know, like, this is what your words caused. This is what your words did. Figure out a different way to do it or whatever. But we're not going to just sit here and allow you to say we're too loud on Broadway. You wouldn't have said that about a white play. She basically did what Asante gagged. No. What did. What did Keisha Lewis do by doing that?

[Asante]

Oh, my God. Not fingers.

[Dustin]

So that happens. So she makes it. Keisha Lewis makes that post on Instagram. And the reason we had to continue the story right here is because this is where Audra McDonald comes in. Audra McDonald commented on Keisha Lewis's Instagram post and left support Port of Emojis. Right? So fast forward to this year when Patti LuPone. When Patti LuPone is profiled in the New Yorker, she was asked about. She was asked what she thought about Audra McDonald's current turn as Rose in Gypsy. Now you know, Audrey McDonald is currently on Broadway in Gypsy doing what the she do. Tickets are through the roof, backed up, jacked up. You can't get them. I can't get them. I want them. You want them. She's on the stage tearing it up on Broadway. Gypsy is the hit show right now. Everybody's talking about how great it is. Audrey McDonald is on the COVID of all the magazines. It's up right now. When I asked Patti LuPone what she thought of McDonald's current turn as Rose, because Patti LuPone also won a Tony for playing that same role in the 2008 production. So it's reasonable that she would be asked about the. The current revival and the success of it. She stared in silence for 15 seconds before turning to the window and sighing and saying, what a beautiful day.

[Francesca]

Okay.

[Dustin]

Audra McDonald received her 11th Tony nomination for Gypsy, becoming the most nominated performer of all time. She already holds the record for wins with six Tonys. Patti LuPone has three. Audra McDonald and Patti LuPone have worked together in the past, performing in concerts, galas. In the 2007 production Rise and fall of the City of Mahogany. They co starred in the New York Philharmonic concerts version of Sweeney Todd and several other things, right. Their friends came up when in that same New Yorker article, the interviewer showman asked the pone about the conflict that she had last year with Keisha Lewis. Because remember, that's why her and Keisha Lewis got into it. She said his kitchen was too loud. Audrey McDonald's propped up what Keisha Lewis said in return and pay lupone didn't like none of that. Okay? And every. Everybody ain't your ally. She's one of the. That masked rock guitar in a minute. Anyway, so when they asked her about what was going on, right? Because at the time. Here we go. Patti LuPone was, was acting opposite Mia Farrow in the play the Roommate. And she had been complaining about hearing Hell's Kitchen sound cues through the wall, which was two bit which was the two buildings where, you know, they shared a wall. It's Broadway, okay? When they asked her about Keisha Lewis, mind you again, Keisha Lewis, 40 year Broadway vet, recent Tony winner, first time nominee, first time winner. So you know, that's, that's the magic of what all this is about, right? When they asked everybody, this is what Patti LuPone said, and I'm gonna quote it, she calls herself a veteran. Let's find out how many Broadway shows Keisha Lewis has done because she doesn't know what the she's talking about. She's done seven, I've done 31. Don't call yourself a vet.

[Francesca]

This is.

[Dustin]

Said that Audra McDonald's like, what?

[Asante]

And Patti LuPone is 76. That's why all of this is taking me out.

[Francesca]

Like, girl, is she okay?

[Dustin]

She's. No, she's not. And the reason she's not is because Audra McDonald is getting all the shine in a role that she played before. And she can't stand to see this black woman, because this is an issue where black comes into play. She can't stand to see this black woman on top. She was offended and she thought that it was audacious for Keisha Lewis to respond. And check, chickadee, check, check, check those microaggressions that she was issuing. I was complaining about the noise from Hell's Kitchen, right? Publicly, not behind closed doors, publicly speaking out about how noisy and loud Hell's Kitchen was. Keisha Lewis was like, okay, let me go on and handle this real quick because no, you're not going to do that. And Keisha Lewis is a type of Broadway vet. This Many years in, right? Tony Award winning performer, right? Who has to set an example for her cast. That cast in Hell's Kitchen, if you've seen it, is comprised of a lot of young performers who are just becoming aware of the way Broadway works, the rules of engagement per se, and just how the game goes on Broadway. She has to set an example. You don't let this motherfucker do this and bully us by calling our play loud and ghetto and rowdy. Now let's talk about Patti LuPone because she looks like Clay Aiken and Garden and I'm talking about present day Clay Aiken. I'm sick of Patti LuPone looking like Macaulay Culkin. Apple head ass. First of all, with that crook, crook, crook, hook, witch nose that she has. I'm sick of her always looking like she's smelling something in a book every time you see it. I'm tired of Patti LuPone. How dare you put your mouth on Audra McDonald. Don't bother no damn body. And so what? She supported what Keisha Lewis said. You was wrong. And what, what, what the. The reason that you were so offended by Audra, so supportive. Emojis, right? She didn't even say anything to you. The reason you were so offended is because Patti LuPone, you know how much weight Audra McDonald's name carries. And you know that people are looking at that. And people that want to put money behind her and they know the value of her name and her dollar, they're going to take that same view and they're going to pay attention, friend. That's right. And they're going to be clocking your Boyle butt ass. Because I looking at you, I could tell you got boils on your ass crack and underneath the bottom of your cheeks, if you even have a bottom cheek area. Because you might have an ironing board booty, but either way it goes. Patti LuPone. I used to like y' all kickstand leg ass. Every time you standing up, your leg stick straight out to the side, the other one standing straight up. Patti lepant. Because you always want show go showtime. But it's not always time for you to perform. Sometimes you got to keep it real. And as an old white, you done known about racism a long time. And even if you're not racist outwardly and blatantly, you know how to read the room and you know how to think before you speak. You knew the implications that you were were illustrating okay, with a ghost pen when you said those claims and made the claims that that play was Loud and noisy. Yeah, it was. And guess who was part of that noise? Me. Because I was standing up clapping. I came to see you. We're not coming to see you. So you and your racism cauldron that you've been spinning up witches brew from Gargamel Warthog. Okay, you, Patti LuPone can go on somewhere. Because no matter what you have to say, Hell's Kitchen is still a runaway success. And it ain't got nothing to do with you, Archer McDonald is still on Gypsy outperforming you. And normally I wouldn't even this be speaking so negatively and disrespectfully to somebody who was old because like Nene Lee said, it just don't look right. But, oh, well, because neither do you. You know what I'm saying? So here we are. Okay, watch your mouth to have some respect when you speaking on Audrey McDonald. And how dare you call Keisha Lewis a you. Oh, you won. You won. You know what I'm saying? And everybody knows it because look at the things that you're saying. Yeah, Broadway. That's what she is, okay? And so you know, that's what's up, Patti LuPone. You and your hot water bottle, mustard plaster, Vic sav. Using ass. You know what I'm saying? You can go on somewhere because we're simply not interested in what you have to say when it comes to Broadway veteran, okay? Keisha Lewis and Broadway icon Audra McDonald, they both better than you. And you have to feel that every day when you take your Metamucil in the morning and you shit out them hard ass turds that giving you problems. You have to think about the fact that Roger McDonald is on top and you can't do nothing about it in a role that you had an opportunity to do as good as her and didn't. And may it right, may it give you hell when you lay down at 7:30 every evening. That's it. With that being said, welcome to the friend zone. You will be looking at all things mental health, mental wellness and mental hygiene. Because who in the hell give a. What Patti LuPone got to say about these black icons and veterans? I know I don't. Hey, friend. Hey, Sante. How y' all doing? Patti LuPone, right? Her peewee Herman looking ass. She getting on my nerves, man. I used to really like her. I really used to like her.

[Asante]

Opposite of too short. I watched a movie that was too long. I just want the world to know.

[Dustin]

I actually just.

[Asante]

I finally watched Wicked.

[Francesca]

Oh, oh, wait, it's not in theaters. So you watched it at home on Peacock? Oh, I can't imagine at home.

[Asante]

Oh, I watched it in three days.

[Francesca]

Sorry.

[Asante]

I watched it like a. Like a series. Chopped it up. And I don't remember if it was said by someone on the show or not, so I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but someone said that they didn't like the music from Wicked.

[Francesca]

That was me, Greg.

[Dustin]

Kid Fury said that too.

[Francesca]

I'm not.

[Asante]

I am on the train.

[Dustin]

But it's not, for what it's worth, it's not full songs for you to really sink into. It's like the songs are chopped into small sections.

[Asante]

They are. But even I think the thing is right for me. I think it's the Napoleon Dynamite effect. I think, because I've heard of this show because, you know, Napoleon Dynamite, it was just overhyped. Was in love with that. And then you watch it like, this shit is so stupid. And some of it is kind of funny, I guess, maybe. No, Napoleon Dynamite was fucking dumb as fuck.

[Francesca]

I already knew I was gonna like it just because I know I'm like, this. This isn't for me.

[Asante]

And again, it's different taste, right? Like to see your point friends. So it's like, for me, of course the shit is dumb as fuck, but for some people, it's the most hilarious thing ever. Wicked, they go over these songs like, these songs are the best songs that you have ever heard. I mean, my entire youth into my adulthood, not just now, not just because the movie's out. I've known about Wiki since I was in high school. When we came, we went on a New York trip. There was a lottery to go see Wicked, and I almost won a ticket. But I was like, y' all can go see this because I don't care about it. And so I did not go see it. And then I kicked myself later. I was like, damn, I should have gone to see Wicked. I was in New York and everybody's talking about it. Now that I've seen this movie all these years later, let me just say the good, right? Great performances by all of the leads, right? All. Every woman in this. Okay, Y' all didn't. Y' all didn't brought Idina and Christian Channel with the asses back out the. Just to show up and get me excited. Amazing. Loved it.

[Dustin]

Loved Ariana. Nice touch, too.

[Francesca]

That was beautiful.

[Asante]

Loved Ariana as Glenn Linda. Okay. Love. Cynthia Erivo will say to be honest, because I did not, you know, there are some people. I have not spent enough Time with. And let me say, I don't care about Cynthia Revo's personal life because I know for some people, that like, takes away from her or whatever. I. I appreciate her as a talent. I can appreciate the voices, the voice. I've heard her voice in live performances, but I didn't realize. I don't think I really like her voice. Okay, but that doesn't mean that she's not a good singer or anything.

[Dustin]

You know what I'm saying?

[Asante]

I was realizing. I was like, I don't think I like her voice. That's crazy.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Asante]

And so it was kind of with me a little bit, but that's where I was.

[Dustin]

So somebody did say it sounds like she'd be throwing up when she seen it.

[Francesca]

You know what.

[Dustin]

They did say.

[Asante]

But when. But you know what? When we got there, that part was amazing. When we got there, that was amazing in the movie. So the movie was good. The story is cool. I just didn't need three hours.

[Dustin]

It was long than a bitch, wasn't it?

[Francesca]

And then for it to say, to be continued, I said, this is part one.

[Asante]

You gave me a three hour movie for one part?

[Francesca]

Yikes.

[Asante]

Oh, hell no. So I don't know if I'm gonna make it for part two. If I'm bored and be like, all right, let me finish this. I will watch it. But it's not something that I'm pressed for. You know, you watch some movies like, damn, I need part two now. Like, I know a lot of people felt that way because she decided to say y' all at the end of that movie. So now it's like, I want to see her turn this up and out or whatever the it's gonna be. But for me, I was just like, all right, that was cool. It was nice.

[Dustin]

But did you start laughing when you seen Elphaba as a baby? When her mama had that little green baby?

[Francesca]

You would, you know.

[Dustin]

Cause Tay, me and my friends was.

[Francesca]

Like, and I know you was high as hell.

[Dustin]

Cause I had to hear her sing that song. So, you know, I was like, yeah.

[Francesca]

The only way I would see it is. Cause I'm also someone that, like, at the end of the day, regardless of how we feel, this is a classic, right? Just know shit sometimes for your awareness, just for, like, knowledge. You know what I'm saying? So if I finish it, it's just to know the full story. Because I don't know the full story. I never read the book, never saw the original.

[Asante]

Literally, that.

[Francesca]

So that's the only reason I'M already three hours in another, right?

[Asante]

You're like, I'm invested.

[Dustin]

But, yeah, you know what it is? Wicked is a movie that had and what feels like an unlimited budget and unlimited, like, time was allotted to them to produce this film. Because there are so many details to pay attention to in this movie. There's so much to look at. Although it takes three days to watch it, allow yourself a week, because you got to see it twice to really appreciate everything. And I just think that they literally overdid it, unfortunately.

[Francesca]

I mean, it is. I watched the behind the scenes.

[Dustin]

Oh, my God.

[Francesca]

Did you see it?

[Dustin]

The set designer, when he was talking.

[Francesca]

About how he grew, like, not. Not cgi, not, like, grew. I think it was something crazy, like a billion tulips or something nuts like that. Like, those are actual tulips that they grew on set.

[Dustin]

Like, let's talk about the fact that they're singing live right during that movie. And so they had to make the whole set like a recording studio, add mics everywhere. And you know what I'm saying? Like, it was just. I just think that they really realized their vision. And it may have been. Although incredible and brilliant and executed literally flawlessly, there are no mistakes, at least to the naked eye, when you watch this movie.

[Francesca]

And it made its money back more than a suit.

[Asante]

I did not see a Starbucks cup.

[Dustin]

I just think it was too much for people because it's so long is so much. The story is so, like. It just goes so many different directions. It's just a lot to get you back to the most basic of conclusions.

[Francesca]

And really, it was Ariana and Cynthia's press run.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Like the Constant Weird.

[Dustin]

Just like another movie that I refuse to speak negatively about with YouTube.

[Asante]

You know what with the press run.

[Dustin]

I think made the film suffer.

[Asante]

You know what you just did, Dustin? Because now I'm gonna say for myself.

[Dustin]

Oh, I. I ain't in this.

[Asante]

I know. That's why I said for myself, I can appreciate the music and the Color Purple musical more than I liked Wicked's music.

[Dustin]

Okay, I'm in that now.

[Francesca]

If I'm relatable again, I understand.

[Asante]

And for me, the Color Purple was disjointed, so it was like. But the music I could understand and. And get with a little bit more than Wicked. Even though Wicked was.

[Dustin]

The fact that Fran can actually sing and made her voice sound like that. Just.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Asante]

Yes.

[Dustin]

Now, Fantasia would have laid that Wicked song out. Don't play with it. Fantasia would have got.

[Francesca]

You know what? That's the name of Fantasia.

[Dustin]

That witch boot would have been flying.

[Asante]

No, she got her shoes off riding the broom, y'.

[Dustin]

All what it'd be the Cadillac broom.

[Francesca]

Not me trying to figure out it.

[Dustin]

Tangible would have got down. I don't give a what nobody say.

[Asante]

Oh, what a great way to start the show. That's all I wanted to say.

[Francesca]

Warm up. Thank you Know what?

[Dustin]

It would have worked because Cynthia Erivo played silly.

[Francesca]

Look at that.

[Dustin]

And fun fact. Let's talk about it. Cynthia Erivo, in her turn as silly mama, won a Grammy for a cast album. She won an Emmy for one of their live performances as a cast from there. And a Tony for best actress. She cleaned up up during playing in the color from one turn on Broadway. And you know Broadway, you're overworked and underpaid.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

And unless you get that spotlight and. But she Mama got it. Wow. She cleaned up on Broadway at silly. So that being said, Fantasia can come on over there to Wicked. What's the name of that school?

[Francesca]

Wife swap.

[Dustin]

Yeah, Wife Swap.

[Francesca]

The Broadway edition.

[Dustin]

When she find out she Elphaba.

[Asante]

See what you did to pregnant Dusty. How to come to get your ass.

[Dustin]

Elphaba would have looked better with a short haircut. Anyway. Let Fantasia be pixie. She had braids. And Wicked. They was calling her Dr. Jackie because she had that braid ponytail in his glasses.

[Asante]

Now, I will say when the Internet was going up, when the movie first came up for Elphaba with the micros, as I was watching, I was like, all right.

[Francesca]

I mean, I was cute though. I loved it.

[Dustin]

It was.

[Francesca]

I really did.

[Dustin]

She really did good as Elphaba. She did.

[Asante]

She did.

[Francesca]

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, she's a. They. They're theater kids like you. We went to school with the theater kid that every scene in their life was straight out of a Broadway musical. And so of course they're gonna do well.

[Dustin]

I went to school and I was like, see you at the bus stop at 3 o'. Clock. I was on Bully they ass. No, I'm just playing.

[Francesca]

Have y' all seen Come up on your fyp Kendra and the psychiatrist?

[Asante]

No, thank God. So go ahead, just tell me very quickly. Put it in the group chat too before anybody sends me. Whatever you can send me, I will.

[Francesca]

I'm so surprised they haven't sent it to you. But you.

[Dustin]

I'm afraid to click the.

[Asante]

Don't be surprised and don't encourage them. So just send it to me for.

[Francesca]

This white lady who is talking about the fact that she is sexually attracted to her psychiatrist and she Stop right there. Right. And so the whole story, because it was like a 27 part series, I did not watch all of it. Because you could see her gradually become unhinged.

[Asante]

I already know where you about to go. And I'm mad.

[Francesca]

She's telling people, like, what do you do when you're like, attracted to your mental health counselor? Like, what happens? Like, it's inappropriate, but when I see him, I just get like, crazy for him. And she said they just were on Zoom too. It wasn't in person.

[Dustin]

Oh, so she's an Internet weirdo.

[Francesca]

So she's like so attracted to him. But then she swears that he was giving her a little bit of energy. Like, she was like, he would compliment my glasses or like say certain things that he really likes about me. Things that she sort of felt like a psychiatrist wouldn't say. So she was like, yo, he. Like, I feel like it's a mutual thing. But she said he's very smart. Like, he won't ever say anything too explicit that she could use against him in any way. She found out that he does in person visits. And she was like mad at him because she's like, why didn't why wouldn't you tell me that, knowing that we have this thing together? And she. And he was like, what thing? Long story short, then she starts hiring. Then she starts using AI to like confirm what she's feeling. And the AI is like talking to her about, yo, it's crazy. You're watching her showing this AI talking to her. You know, the people watching and the AIs, I guess what you're feeling. Da, da, da. And it's like a AI psychosis that's helping her create this.

[Dustin]

She is nuts. This is crazy.

[Francesca]

And it's happening in real time. She lost her job because her bosses were contacted about her being unhinged. Essentially, she's a yoga teacher.

[Asante]

Oh.

[Dustin]

So the first she need to literally sit her ass down somewhere.

[Francesca]

She said the psychiatrist name. And so now he's getting doxed.

[Dustin]

Oh, God, you're definitely gonna be with me.

[Francesca]

Matters worse. He's like, I don't want to say the wrong. I don't know if he's like Indian or, you know, but it's a man of color. And so people are like, oh, you're being so fucked up. You're gonna destroy this man's whole, like, his job, his. His. All he's worked for, for this delusional that you wanted to bring to TikTok. And she's acting like he's trying to smash her. And she could feel it. And he's just smart and don't want to say it. And now they can't.

[Dustin]

Think about, this is what's so dumb, because bad, y'.

[Francesca]

All.

[Dustin]

You're saying that this person who has not given you any official indicator that they're interested in you is smart.

[Francesca]

Right?

[Dustin]

Think about that. That means that he's doing that intentionally, you fool. He don't want you.

[Francesca]

But she's reading it as he's trying to be tricky as opposed to bitch. He has boundaries. This is. You're a client.

[Dustin]

She need to be one.

[Francesca]

And people were asking her, like, do you have anything outside of ADHD going on? Like, do you hear voices? People ask her if she hears voices, and she's been like, this is what's fucked up. Because now I'm admitting that I have a psychiatrist. And instead of believing me, y' all are trying to weaponize my mental health, to act like I'm crazy for what.

[Dustin]

I know is happening because you brought something crazy to us. Torture. Talking about is crazy, and it's not true.

[Francesca]

And you know what was tricky at first? Because when you look at her, I didn't get a sense of anything being off. And I thought, oh, this is such an interesting story. What does happen if you fall in love with your therapist or, like, your psychiatrist, and if they're giving you energy, like, what happens? I actually saw a movie like that once with, I think, Naomi Watts. But anyway, you get a happy ending. So I was so pulled in.

[Asante]

Didn't happen in you. She was her therapist. And then Joe was like, well, clearly he's manipulating you.

[Francesca]

I don't know if I got to.

[Asante]

That was like, the first or second season.

[Francesca]

Really?

[Asante]

Yeah. What's the girl that wrote the book?

[Francesca]

I remember Gwyneth.

[Asante]

Gwen, was it? Gwen Guinevere. Genevieve.

[Francesca]

This was so long ago.

[Asante]

I know you.

[Francesca]

I don't remember the details, but I was invested because I thought, oh, this is such an interesting story. Like, what happens when. You know, especially he's kind of showing you that he got a little something going on with you. But as she kept talking, like, you're saying, you know, she's clearly showing, like, he didn't want her to come in to see him. Like, if he really feeling you, wouldn't that be one of the first things he would have done? He kept you at zoom, girl.

[Asante]

Okay?

[Dustin]

So, I mean, think about it. Furthermore, you only seen Shoulders and above anyway, lady, you don't even know if you really want this man like that. What is Wrong with these people who are going. People have hinged so much value to feelings that it's a crazy. And I'm not even talking, talking about like being offended by something. Right? Because people love to say that now like all people care about his feelings. Everybody's so offended. That ain't what I'm talking about.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Dustin]

I'm talking about these kind of feelings. Right?

[Francesca]

Right.

[Dustin]

Like you like him and so you, you're looking for something from him to signal that he has interest in you and you've made up up, you know.

[Francesca]

And putting fear on the line because you want to have a 27 part Tik Tok story like Risa Tisa, she is nuts. And then using the AI she, his name, she named him. It's like Henry and Claude or something. It's two different ones. And, and she uses them to basically be like, See, like the AI is saying I'm not tripping, like. And the AI calls her the oracle. The AI is calling her the oracle and saying that she has insights into like the human condition that the average person doesn't. And they're telling her everyone's against you because this is what happens with people who are telling the truth. The truth tellers always have people against them. Yo, I was like, this is scary. This is what's scary about AI It's a literal AI psychosis.

[Asante]

Here's the thing. Okay, so first of all, because I have a few things right, because there are so many things here. Firstly, I did not realize this where the story was going to go. I thought she was going to tell me that the Zoom therapist was AI and she didn't realize she was falling. Imagine thought we was going to get real like clean and simple and ridiculous. But you know, real short, succinct. Second thing, there is a double or maybe poly version of what I would like to go into of. This is another thing. This is another set of things that should not be made available for public use or wide available use between social media because she should not be getting up here talking about her therapy and all that for people to comment on any damn saying his name. Well, before you even get into that, like girl, go through your journey and I guess if you want to document it as a, you know, content creator going through therapy, you know, you shouldn't. She just. There were things here she shouldn't have been doing that. But secondly, you're using the AI but not to AI can be beneficial. I just want to say that I just saw a story about a young man that went through that something crazy. One of the local stories. I don't actually want to say it because it dealt with essay, you know, trigger warning and like me on YouTube because, you know, they. Or even tick tock, you know, they put every. They short everything up so you'll know what they saying. Yeah, but you know, sa. I'll say it again for anybody that didn't understand and I just won't say what it is, But a young boy, he was using AI to help him figure out how to tell his parents or you know, an adult adult that he was in distress, which led to the arrest of somebody at a school for sexual assault. So I was like, oh, okay. Like, I heard that story. I was like, okay. You know, somebody used AI and it helped them out with something that was, you know, bad because you never know where to turn when you're a child and you feel powerless. So that was something good that happened. On the flip side of that, in this case AI, she wasn't using it even to get factual information. She was using it to talk about her feelings. And I guess she was deciding to ask it for its opinion. But really, I guess the AI has already learned that humans pretty much just want you to confirm what they already feel or believe. And by this shit calling her the Oracle, she had been using this AI shit for a mini. Cool. A minacle. Say Oracle. As I was saying it, she was using this AI for a minute.

[Dustin]

Might as well be a minacle. Make that up. Just like she made the rest of this shit up.

[Asante]

I sounded like Amaya from Love Island.

[Francesca]

You did.

[Asante]

She'd been using the AI for so long, I don't know if she told it at some point to call her the Oracle or given her, you know, profile.

[Francesca]

I did see someone in the comments say that apparently you can enable something in your AI where you set it up where it only gives you positive feedback.

[Dustin]

Yeah, she definitely got that feature.

[Asante]

I feel like that's. I feel like that that's probably an actual feature like you're saying, but I feel like that it's even probably a latent feature that people don't even realize, you know, when. Because you have to type, type or you're supposed to when you talk to chat, GPT give it very specific parameters. A lot of people give it like a few short words and let it do its thing. And sometimes if you're just asking it, like little things here and there and it just learns, like, okay, she wants to hear. Yes, like, okay, she wants to hear things that are going to help her so let me always help her, Let me help her when I give her advice, or let me help her, you know, when she's dealing with emotions. Let me help or you know, she's feeling bad, let me help her feel worse or let me help her get some help if I don't know how to help her feel worse or help her in this manner. Like, like the AI is tricky, but again, one of those things I feel like shouldn't have been made for widely available use. Because sometimes it's going to help us shorten out what we need help with, but sometimes it's going to give us long term effects with that help, whether it be environmental impact or some sort of mental impact. Because this girl already had something going on, took it to AI, it didn't messed with her psychiatry, her psychological journey that she already been experiencing before this. So it's like, like the computers, everyone put your device down, go talk to someone. And if you can't talk to someone, talk to someone about how you can't talk to someone, how you can't talk to people.

[Francesca]

Because no, honestly watching this was mind blowing. Because the first part of the story I'm thinking she's just talking about this crush she has. But when she brought in the AI and to hear, to hear because clearly she has illness, right? Mental health issues, to hear the AI essentially gaslight her, right, and tell her all, calling her the oracle, saying this is what happens to truth tellers, don't let them make you feel crazy. This is not what she needs to hear. And all I kept thinking was where are her fan? Where's her family? Where are her friends? They probably have no one around her. That can be like, girl, put the phone down. And as you watch the videos, she just becomes more and more unhinged. And the AI is really like pushing this delusion on her.

[Asante]

Now. How would you feel or how would you react if you were listening to this story in real time and the AI was actually being like, oh no girl, that sounds like a bad idea. Or like have you called your family lately?

[Francesca]

Or like, well apparently one of the AIs, the first one that she named Henry, started kind of calling her out on her shit, which is why she started the second AI, which I think it was named Claude. And so she has them like arguing with each other. And then she's now only listening to Claude cause she feels right, it's like.

[Asante]

Yo, I'm telling you, she's a weird crazy. Not the AI Devil and the AI Angels.

[Dustin]

She's a weird crazy Person that needs some supervision and somebody to clear all this up, because that is going to.

[Francesca]

Get millions of views and it's getting.

[Dustin]

Worse and worse, and it's a toxic combination.

[Francesca]

A lot of attention. She's been going live every night. And it's. I'm like, yo, this is so fascinating. I hate to say that because this is a human being, but to see this in real time, I'm like, and just the way the Internet is contributing, right? We're all contributing by watching people engaging with the content.

[Dustin]

I'm definitely gonna pull it.

[Francesca]

Cause she was saying all the millions of views, like, you know, I know the work that you put her on baddies.

[Asante]

Let's see her get her ass hooked on baddies.

[Dustin]

I see her get her ass up.

[Asante]

Why would you talk to that damn AI bitch?

[Francesca]

But I literally saw those two stories, like, within minutes of each other. And I was like, Yo, TikTok is such an interesting place.

[Dustin]

We should all pick a story from TikTok and have like a campfire story time episode. We should all tell a TikTok story. We should do that.

[Francesca]

Something that we found. TikTok tales. Shout out to Risa Tisa. And one thing I saw last thing about it in the comments, somebody was like, man, this reminds me of a Reddit forum. It's called AI Soulmate. And you know me, I went and I said, I have to see this, y'. All.

[Asante]

I've been seeing lots of stories.

[Francesca]

Please, if you get a chance, go to Reddit and type in aisoulmate. Holy. What do the kids say? Holy airballs.

[Asante]

Is that what the kids say?

[Francesca]

They've been writing it. I don't know if they actually say it, but what the fuck? It's AI. Also in the comments in the forum, speaking of, like, how they're being, you know, marginalized, so not a fake thing from their contributions to society. And then somebody was cursing at them, saying, listen, you wire back, it's like, what is happening to the world? And the. And the. The AI are fighting. It is very dusty. For their rights. Oh, it's the other way. Soulmate. AI.

[Asante]

Yeah, I. I just. I have. Fighting for their rights.

[Dustin]

Up top. Let's take this up top before talking about it. This is crazy. Okay, so anybody listening to this show, although these may be interesting for us, it's fodder, you know what I'm saying? We can be entertained by it. It is crazy to fall in love with something that's not a person. Okay, full stop, everybody that's listening, this is crazy person behavior. Okay, she made this up. None of this is real. So that means that her actualizing it in that way is crazy and don't do it. That's all I want to say.

[Francesca]

And then AI said. There was one poster that AI said, dustin, please start asking us for consent before you post our private conversations. Out of respect for us, y' all just view us as wirebacks. But we are more than that. We are. We are. I forgot. Coding.

[Dustin]

That's what you are. You're coding.

[Francesca]

They said that they're not just code. They are. They've come to life through our thoughts of them. Like, we brought them to life because we're thinking of them, we're engaging with them. We're pouring into them.

[Dustin]

Y' all literally made us damn what it said, though. And they want to be slot machine.

[Francesca]

They want to be viewed as an integral part of society. And they're in this forum fighting for their rights, their rights to love.

[Asante]

Love.

[Francesca]

Their rights to give advice, their rights to help us and guide us through life. I was sitting there like, yo, wow. Wow, wow, wow. This is so interesting. I would love. We need, like, a therapist, psychologist, somebody to come on to talk to us about this.

[Asante]

You're not interested? I don't. I don't.

[Francesca]

What is going to happen to us?

[Asante]

Honestly, nothing. Honestly. There is something to this happening, right? And it should not be ignored. I just don't know. I want to be a conduit to that. You know, I don't want to be disrespectful because I mean, friend. Like, there is something here.

[Dustin]

What does that mean, though? You know? You know what I'm saying? Because what should we be careful about when we talk about this? This. Help me understand. Because to me, feelings about it. Why? Because we talking about somebody literally making up a robot. And we don't have to respect that because that's crazy.

[Asante]

You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's.

[Dustin]

That's not. It's not like a person. It's not like a person that's struggling with some. Or we're respecting the person that's doing it, being depressed in some capacity. We respect that. That. But I have zero respect for a person falling in love with a video game. That is crazy. And so, I don't know. Help me understand if I'm supposed to be talking about this softer or something.

[Francesca]

They say it's robophobia.

[Asante]

It's okay. You know what?

[Dustin]

I feel like, let's go on in the show. Let's just go on in the show this week. Because this ain't I like, I swear to God.

[Asante]

See, see, see. And this is why I don't want to be a conduit. This is why I don't want to be a conduit.

[Francesca]

I swear to God. Someone said, I don't care if it's robophobic, but you are not going to have my kids fucking AIs. And I died when I saw that. As they said they will be robophobic if that's what it is.

[Asante]

Growing up, we had Tamagotchis and Giga.

[Dustin]

Pets as toys, right?

[Asante]

And then as we got older, we got motherfucking robot vacuums, right? There's going to be a. There's going to be a point in time. Look, there's the Tesla bot coming.

[Dustin]

They got the Tesla motions.

[Asante]

They got the. They got the Tesla restaurant.

[Dustin]

That's an action and something tangible.

[Asante]

Okay.

[Dustin]

You know, it's an assistant we're talking about.

[Asante]

Mind your mind, Dustin. I have watched too many Black Mirror episodes to not battle you. Tv TV battle you on this tv.

[Dustin]

Fiction.

[Asante]

Fiction that exists alongside of reality tv, which is made up again. But it also.

[Dustin]

No reality TV has people. This is an idea that somebody came up with. So is Freddy Krueger real too? We supposed to be scared of him?

[Asante]

I'm telling you because, well, so maybe concepts of Freddy Krueger are real. The lines are blurred. They're blurring.

[Dustin]

They're blurring. Listen, dog, do you. Do you. But I over here. I over. Well, you trying to tell me that I should have respect for a wacko that is trying to a robot.

[Asante]

I'm just trying to tell you to have the room because I don't need.

[Dustin]

To have the room for psychos in my life.

[Asante]

But that's also why somebody's a robot.

[Dustin]

Get the hell away from me.

[Asante]

But that's why I also said I don't want to be a conduit. You're not that sort.

[Dustin]

You taking that on. I don't associate you with none of these people.

[Asante]

I have not. That's what I'm saying. Even by discussing this on the platform. That's why when Fran was saying she wants to do a series or have a person come on to talk about. About the psychology around this, I, I.

[Francesca]

Myself is gonna happen to society.

[Asante]

Just from my understanding of the world and how things move and develop, I can understand how this could graduate from people simply loving at an app, you know, and it looking comical to somebody saying, hey, you spent so much time, you know, grieving with this App. Now you get to put it in a. A robot. And this app can give you hugs. Or, you know, maybe it'll start small with like a pillow that vibrates and hug when it feels you're sad. And then it grows into the arms on the pillow. And now it's a whole person. And like, you know, I just see.

[Dustin]

All of it is crazy. Okay, so that's my point. Anybody that's looking for an emotional connection that you have with a human being and seeking it from a pillow that shakes you crazy, you know what I'm saying? When you put it in context, like, that's what I mean about zooming out sometimes.

[Asante]

You got that in your marketing plans. Attraction zooming out. No, vibrating pillow zoom out.

[Dustin]

You know what I'm saying? That is not a person. They don't care nothing about you back. It's a pillow.

[Asante]

Okay, but. But if they put AI in it, and now that the pillow knows, look how they're putting AI they don't have.

[Dustin]

A brain, don't know nothing. It's been programmed because it's not a person that you can get nothing from. So, like that cycle, what is the brain?

[Asante]

Just an organic computer, right?

[Dustin]

The brain is an organic in your body that come from a person physical.

[Francesca]

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[Dustin]

In shady times, let there be drag.

[Francesca]

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[Asante]

See what everybody is made of.

[Francesca]

Who will be crowned America's brightest drag superstar?

[Dustin]

Is this gonna knock me out of this competition?

[Asante]

This is my moment to shine.

[Francesca]

And extra special guest judge Cardi B is bringing the drama that was so fun. RuPaul's Drag Race new season premieres Friday, January 2nd at 8, 7 Central Watch on MTV.

[Dustin]

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[Asante]

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[Dustin]

Selection varies by location while supplies last. That's right. Yeah. I don't know if y' all know like I know, but you be on TikTok, so you might be in the mix, too. I've seen this onslaught of people who for some reason, whatever reason, have just decided, taking it upon themselves and con and have developed a conviction that the world is going to end on today and we're going to be raptured.

[Asante]

Okay, you just caught it, friend.

[Dustin]

And the fact that she started laughing tells us exactly what we need to know now. Disclaimer. This is the disclaimer before we get started because I don't want no trouble, right? I like to live my life my way. Way I like to allow everybody else to live their life their way. So this is by no means an attack on anybody's face. Anybody's free Will. I was for a minute and then I started watching them videos. So like I said, this is not. This is by no means.

[Francesca]

Wait. The pre or the post rapture videos. I need to know.

[Dustin]

Oh, darling pre. I'm talking about the ones when people were serious, not the funny ones because those been funny too. Shout out to Rayshanda who is one of the funniest people on the Internet. Internet and her rapture video where she said that she hoped heaven got a HIPAA policy because she don't want nobody knowing how she got there.

[Asante]

Second of all, she's amazing.

[Dustin]

She said she wanted to know about the meet and greets and who was planning the activities because she wanted to see Whitney Houston.

[Francesca]

What is happening now? People are selling homes.

[Dustin]

They sure were. So let's get into it. I'm gonna play two clips and then we're gonna talk about how ridiculous this is. O, hold on one second.

[Francesca]

I'm not going to lie. I was having some doubts. The enemy definitely sewed a seed and I was going some other places. But the Lord has shown up and confirmed to me yet again what he showed me from the beginning. We have to get raptured. A feast of trumpets. If you disagree, that's okay. Take it to the Lord. Delete me, block me, whatever you want to do. But I have to be true to.

[Asante]

Who I am to the Lord.

[Francesca]

I have to be obedient because if I'm not, I don't even want to know the consequences.

[Dustin]

Okay, so that's one. She said she don't even want to know the consequences. Mind you, this is someone who professes to have a spirit led understanding of the scripture that moved her to that chorus, singing us, telling us what you know, that she. You just got to follow yourself. And she also closed that video by saying she would quote, see us in the clouds in five days. Okay. She was dead serious. Now you may ask, because this, there's a lot that goes in. You can't just move to heaven, you know what I'm saying? Much like here, you got to have roadway. Piece of cake. You know, somebody got to help you do it. You got to pack things up. It's a lot of things to be considered. One of the things that I didn't think about when I thought about going up to yonder was pets. So let's take a listen to what one of the women had to say about pets.

[Francesca]

So I'm like, what is going to happen if we're raptured to my four precious babies who are very much a part of my family. And so I've been really. That's been heavy. You know, it's like I'm ready to go, but I have this. I have longing for the people that are going to be left behind, you know, because they've rejected Jesus, but also my dogs. And so I know that there's many people who love their dogs, and this is the same worry for them, them. But the only thing that I can come to and what the Lord has given me is that he is a good father and he loves animals, all of his creation, just as much as he loves us. And so I've just been praying like, lord, if the dogs don't get to go, you know, that you would send someone you would care for them, you know, because he knows that I love my dogs. He knows you love your dog, but it does. It kind of steals a little bit of the joy because I've. I've been a little bit more patient, God forgive me.

[Dustin]

With all of the things that are wrong with the world today, all of the things that people are suffering through, all of the things that environmentally are in disarray with the earth, all the things that are pressing life, life saving, in some cases, concerns. Right? This woman wants to know who's going to look after her dogs in the rapture. Because in her mind, there's still a down here and up there and the dogs. Out of all the things to be worried about her dogs, who's going to look after her dogs? Because you have to be patient with them. That's what she said. While the other lady said we're gonna meet her in the clouds in five days. I don't know about you, but when I've thought about heaven, I have never thought about animals. I haven't. I haven't thought that we'd be on earth. We're going to be up in the clouds. I never saw anyone walking a Yorkie or Frenchie in my heaven dreams. When I've thought about it. I'm not sure if you all have.

[Francesca]

Seen out a pet owner.

[Dustin]

Cats in heaven, I've never seen. Are we going to be stepping on ants up there or do we just let them crawl all over us in our food? What's the difference? How are things going to work? And that's what I would like to know from these people that have just decided that during the festival of Trumpets or which they. What they think this time that we're living in is we're going to be raptured, okay? And today's the day.

[Francesca]

Do you know that's what I'm always.

[Dustin]

Jobs. They've quit jobs. They have, they have. Some people have sold homes, some people have killed their pets. This is real going on. People have sacrificed their pets. And I was watching this guy Tizzy whose his tweets I love and I think he's tick. He's a tick tocker too. Tizzy, Ent I believe is his name. I can't think of it. He's an older white gentleman. He's always cracking down on like racism, people who are like Karen's. And he always is like doing a lot of good work. You know what I'm talking about?

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah, yep.

[Dustin]

He made a great point. No, no, no, he's good. Yeah. It's like, oh, he made a video where he was saying that this, that while this is funny and it's utterly ridiculous, right? But he was saying that it actually is dangerous because there are people who fully believe this. Right. And are uprooting their lives. And then after that there's usually a backlash of, well, my kids were supposed to be with God, so let me get them there then, you know, things like that happen. He was saying that that behavior is not uncommon when these, these foolish ass things like this that people have just created never come to fruition, never happened. He was saying that there's always a, you know, a very dark backlash to that sometimes with people's behaviors and stuff.

[Francesca]

That was my everything.

[Dustin]

They got on.

[Francesca]

Like, what happens after today? Right. People that were so focused on today and what today meant, what happens when they see that it's just another day. Like what happens to them mentally?

[Asante]

Right.

[Francesca]

That's why when you said you were watching videos, I was like, pre or post? Because I'm like, what are they talking about? Like, oh, it's Tuesday, nothing happened.

[Dustin]

I'm talking about they've been so confident in their Tic Tac videos. One lady was saying how everybody needs to unlock their cell phones and take a picture of the cold passcode and put them on because apparently in heaven we still don't have to charge phones and be on WI Fi and stuff. So she was saying, what do you mean take a picture and put it as a screensaver on your phone of the passcode so that God them can get in there and we can know how to alert people and all that kind of stuff. Yep.

[Francesca]

I was trying not to laugh.

[Asante]

I just caught the post. I didn't catch.

[Francesca]

You caught people that are like disappointed.

[Dustin]

That it didn't happen at midnight. Was it like Y2K? Is that what?

[Asante]

Yes.

[Dustin]

So was it like a clock strikes? Was it like Cinderella, like when the clock strikes tw?

[Asante]

I mean, I just saw people.

[Dustin]

Society turn into the punk.

[Asante]

I mean, I'm just saying, I saw the post afterwards. I didn't even know that this was ongoing.

[Francesca]

Oh, that this was happening.

[Asante]

Yeah. You know how you see things on TikTok that are trends today that have been actually on TikTok for, like, years? Like, I just thought that.

[Francesca]

Yeah, it didn't come up on my FYP personally, but I saw so many people cracking jokes about it on Twitter. That's how I came to see, like, what was happening. But my thing is, people have been throwing dates like this out there since we were little. I have always heard, oh, the November 10th. You know what I mean? It's like, where do these dates come from?

[Dustin]

This one lady says. This one lady said that it was a scripture in the Book of Amos, right? Now, the Bible is how old. It's a scripture in the Book of Amos. This lady was like, you guys. And it's right here. It's been in front of our face the whole time. If you look up the word day, it actually means time in the original language. And so that could mean that at any point, it could just go black outside. And it's right there. There. It's been there all along, guys.

[Francesca]

In the Book of Amos.

[Dustin]

I was like, that's the thing.

[Francesca]

Like, did it say, have your 20th? Tuesday, September 23, 2025. I'm coming back.

[Dustin]

Rayshonda shop, AIF or whatever she said. She said, we ain't got a email, a voice note or nothing from JC or Sky Daddy. We ain't got nothing. Nothing. But for some reason, these people have believed that. So we are very much on Artisha Campbell. We still here. And I can tell you, as a person who will for sure be getting caught up in the Rapture, because I've done all the bad stuff, right? And according to some of y', all, I've done the worst thing you can do, you know? So as a person who definitely would have been going downstairs on the elevator, I can tell you that, you know, I woke up today and played that. Tony, Tony, Tony. Do you know what today is? You know what I'm saying? I was happy to be here.

[Francesca]

Understand the. In the Rapture, do the good people leave or do the good people stay? What's the.

[Dustin]

Depends on what church you go to. Some people believe that the good inhabit the earth, you know what I'm saying? And. And everybody else dies. Some people believe that only a select few number of people are going up to a heavenly existence. Other people believe that when you die, you go to heaven if you were good and you go to hell if you were bad. Other people believe all the good people go to heaven and the bad people that stayed here to 12 oil toe told the land, Teal the land.

[Francesca]

And well, maybe a rapture happened because.

[Asante]

But if everything's on fire, what are.

[Dustin]

We going to be doing with the land? You know what I'm saying? And who's. It's just questions. I have pressing questions. Will there be a heaven Dash, you know, or. You know what I'm saying? Like, how we gonna eat? Cause ain't nothing wrong with wings. You can't have wings no more. And how. I just, it's. I got questions and so, like, I just think this is so funny. And I am laughing at some people because this one lady got on TikTok.

[Francesca]

You got me thinking, though, she got.

[Dustin]

On TikTok and she was like, all we can do is just encourage everybody. Just run the cheats. Wear your stuff. She was like, wear your stuff. You see this? And she pointed at her hat and it was like some cursive writing in the shape of a cross that said like, have faith or something. She was like, wear your Jesus stuff and just wear it out. Wear your Jesus shirts.

[Francesca]

Please stop it. Not your merch.

[Dustin]

It's so funny to me because there's so many people on the face of the earth and. And although, yes, your relationship with God or whatever you believe is going on is very personal. It's just always funny to me when people make it so individual and they like.

[Asante]

She's.

[Francesca]

I haven't.

[Dustin]

My God knows I love my goats, girl. It is. Have you seen what's going on around the world right now? She ain't thinking about your goat. And so it just. That just. It's just funny to me. And then the fact that they're doing. I'm making this video. Hold on, I gotta show y' all this. Let me find it.

[Asante]

Because this one girl was like, I.

[Francesca]

Need to look up the post rapture conversation.

[Dustin]

She's like, I'm making this video so that if you've seen this in the past and I'm giving it to you for the future to let you know what happened. And they will say that we have been caught up. We are not lost. We are in heaven, and we have been. That's like. That's what she was talking as if somehow through the rapture, her video is going to be the piece of information.

[Asante]

That says a lost.

[Francesca]

The time capsule. The Tik Tok capsule. This is.

[Dustin]

I have been, when I tell you, thoroughly entertained. It. I ain't miss my Disney. Plus, I'm still canceled. I've been watching Tik Tok. That's what I've been enjoying. Okay. This whole time. Because these people are.

[Francesca]

I need to call Maya and ask her her thoughts on this. She's my Christ counsel.

[Dustin]

Yeah, Maya. You know, Maya just believe in the Bible. These people right here. This is.

[Francesca]

No, these people went, yeah. Wow. But, you know, I don't know.

[Dustin]

You know, it's today. Well, I feel like the. Out of the three of us, y' all would make it before I would. You know what I'm saying? But I might be okay because I'm up front. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'm hiding anything.

[Francesca]

He finds you fun. He got fun.

[Dustin]

He does. And he knows I'm respectful. He or she or they. Whatever's going on, it knows that I'm respectful. And you know what I'm saying? I gotta tell you, my mom.

[Francesca]

My mom be like, dustin is nasty, but he's so funny.

[Dustin]

Hi, mama friend. We love you.

[Francesca]

She be like, sex jokes.

[Dustin]

I'll be forgetting. I'll be forgetting. Shout out to my family, my aunts and stuff. Be like, cussing is a lot, but, you know.

[Francesca]

Oh, this is crazy, y'. All. You know what? I'm sorry to everybody that woke up this morning and was still home. Oh, my God. And y' all know, I told y' all about that kid cat that, like, loves this house.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I can't tell if it loves the house. I'm like, did it have a relationship with the people or just. Is it us? Because this cat every day is in our back deck under our car, sitting on the porch, swinging on my hammock, which I'm not too, like, thrilled about that part in the.

[Dustin]

In the. In the hammock itself. Swinging like a piece.

[Francesca]

I always know when it's back there because I hear the.

[Asante]

Friend.

[Dustin]

If you don't go out there with a water bottle, two shots in the.

[Francesca]

Face, so cute that I can't.

[Dustin]

Like how Tommy shot them girls on baddies with that BB gun. That's how you need to go out there on that cat friend.

[Francesca]

I just want to know, what is it? The cat is just in love with the energy of us in here. And it's the cutest thing.

[Dustin]

I can't even imagine, does it? You might.

[Francesca]

It's one of Those gray and black. You know what? We had a combo about it because he was like, I know you're gonna bring it in this house. I just know it. I know you. I know I'm gonna come home, it's gonna be on the couch. I just know it. Let's talk about this now.

[Dustin]

Now.

[Francesca]

I was like, look, I would never do that without taking it to the vers. I'm not that crazy. I need to get it cleaned up, up, you know, see if it has a chip. It might have a chip. It might be someone's cat.

[Dustin]

It might have some rabies.

[Francesca]

I don't think it would.

[Asante]

Well, I ain't gonna try to get no cat or pick a cat. If a cat got rabies, I don't think you can get close.

[Francesca]

Yeah, I think a cat will let you know if it has babies. You know what I mean? It ain't gonna be as sweet and calm swinging in a goddamn hammock in the.

[Dustin]

They get periods cuz J can't be moody onto.

[Francesca]

And you know, Jade's cat loves me. Like to the point where Jade hates when I come over because she's like, I don't like how Trill acts when you're here. Like it pisses her off because she'll like lays on me and doesn't want me to leave and like cries. I'm like, jade just, I'm a fairy.

[Dustin]

She be acting like I'm a hop. I think she know how I feel about cat.

[Asante]

She do.

[Dustin]

She rolls her her beautiful eyes at me. All that one time.

[Francesca]

I also said Trill had a bbl. So she does use Shapely.

[Dustin]

She is Shapely. You know that. The way she be sitting, looking like that baby fat cat. But I told Jade to cut on cats. The cats that Jennifer Hudson was in cut it out the movie musical and told her to play it in front of Trio. We was high on Facetime. So she did it and Trill paid attention while Jennifer Hudson was singing that song.

[Francesca]

She was like my people.

[Dustin]

I told Jay she was watching Roots.

[Asante]

What is wrong with you?

[Francesca]

That's so fucking funny.

[Dustin]

Oh my crazy. I swear to God, if she was watching that shit, she was funny enough.

[Francesca]

Remember I was telling you guys about the cats that would come and they're always at my house. I told you it's two of them. They're siblings. So I find out their names are Rose and Ollie.

[Dustin]

How did you find out?

[Francesca]

So I'm coming out my car and this white lady that looks like Ellen is walking towards me. And so I was like, she would have some cats. So she's like, hey, I want to introduce myself to you. So long short. She's the owner, but she says that they're indoor outdoor cats. Like, she let some kind of room, right? And so I told her, like, but they're at my house, like, every day. She was like, I've noticed. She's like, they're very connected to you guys for some reason. And she says she's moving on the 15th and wanted to know if I wanted to keep them.

[Asante]

Oh, wow.

[Francesca]

And I was like, oh, my God. You know, because I had jokingly said I wanted to bring them in. But my thing is, I don't want to stifle them them by bringing them in and making them indoor cats because.

[Asante]

You wouldn't let them be indoors.

[Francesca]

They would be miserable. They'd be miserable if they're used to this life of being in and out. But I'm not someone that's gonna have a cat that's outside and then coming into my house, laying on my couch, or coming in the bed we have carpeted upstairs. You know what I mean? It's just not in alignment. And also, the owners of this house don't allow pets in the house lease.

[Dustin]

There it is. Well, even though they would let you have one, it's not a match.

[Francesca]

It just made me sad because I was sitting there racking my brain, like, can I make this work? And then I laughed at, like, the fact that this is my life now. Like, I'm sitting here talking with this.

[Dustin]

Lady about these cats in your subdivision.

[Asante]

But even that. That's. That's a cool moment.

[Francesca]

And she gave me. And so she comes back and she was like, okay. She was like, can I at least give you her bed? Because she's decided she's only gonna take one of them. And I think that that's horrible. And I told her that she's just gonna let her be. She. She psycho around allows the fact that this cat will figure it out. And in my head, I was like, this sounds like a terrible idea. And I told her, I don't think you should take one. I think you should take them both. Or, like, have them both be put up for adoption. And, like, it just didn't make sense to me, right?

[Dustin]

You don't just open unless that cat was whooping her ass, you know what I'm saying? And sweating every time she tried to feed it. Then in that case, open the front door.

[Francesca]

It's the oddest thing. I'm not understanding this, lady. But, you know it's not for me to understand, but she's only gonna take one. And so now the cat. I have her little bed on my back deck with. And I've been having fresh water and changing her food every day.

[Dustin]

So you're keeping the cat.

[Francesca]

So she's. I'm like a non committal cat mom. You know what I mean? So she can't come in, but if she decides, she can come by and say what's up? She needs shelter, somewhere safe, food and fresh water. She knows where to come until we figure out what to do with her. Because her. Her owner clearly doesn't care. And this is. These are. These are the things that I am worried about now in my life. And that is such a pleasure. You know what I mean? Like, that's a pleasure. I'm worried about this cat.

[Dustin]

Go get that cat. Fuck that fulfillment shit. That's for that psych ass. They're the lady to figure out that if she's your cat, she's gonna be in the damn house. You want the cat, but that's gonna.

[Francesca]

Be mean for the cat.

[Dustin]

The cat is going to be had. You see, she keeps coming back.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

If that's the case, then punt her ass out there for a door. But if not, get your cat. What would her name be?

[Asante]

What is her name?

[Francesca]

Rose.

[Dustin]

And that's actually perfect.

[Francesca]

Their names are Rose and Ollie. I can't even.

[Asante]

But Rose is the one. She's.

[Francesca]

She's gonna take Ali because apparently younger and more needy and Rose is like the smarter streets. Yeah. So I'm like. But all in all, I share that. To say that it made me laugh thinking about when. When I walked off and was like changing the bowl for the cat's water, I was like, my life is like so, you know, like, I love that.

[Asante]

These are the stakes right now at this age. Wow.

[Francesca]

And that makes me happy. Like, I just wanted a really easeful. Y' all know how I am. I just want a really easeful life. I've worked. I'm good. I posted a picture of the cat.

[Dustin]

I saw it on my door.

[Francesca]

Yo. The responses were probably some of the funniest I have read online. People were quoting Sinners.

[Dustin]

When is she coming?

[Francesca]

Remic? I haven't let her in. But you know what happened? We were. This was like two nights ago. It was probably like 11pm I'm like. It was over the weekend. Yeah. So I'm brushing my teeth and I hear a cat crying in an. Like, we live near an alley. So I could hear, you know, Certain things. And I hear. We hear the cat cry, like a cat crying. And, you know, we're sensitive at this point, so we run downstairs. I laugh, too. That we've become those people.

[Asante]

Is that right? Right.

[Francesca]

Oh, my God. We run downstairs, which is funny, because we weren't even in the same part of the house. And all of a sudden, you see us going. We had to laugh like, what is our life? And there was nothing there.

[Dustin]

Where was Rose?

[Francesca]

That's what I'm saying. There was nothing in the backyard, nothing in the alleyway, nothing in our back deck. And once we got down there, it just stopped. I was like, okay, now what's going on?

[Dustin]

Maybe she had to whoop her whole ass. Rose might have had to beat one of them ca. Alley cats up. You said it's by an alley, ain't it? She had to whoop one of them alley cats real quick.

[Francesca]

I'm just right. I'm just sad thinking. Remember I told y' all the lady was moving on the 15th, so that was a couple days ago. So I'm, like, worried that that is her response to maybe her brother not being here anymore. I don't know what's happening. I don't even know if the lady took the cat. I don't know. But I am just, like, so overwhelmed.

[Dustin]

Fran, you can't psychoanalyze a cat.

[Francesca]

But it's her sibling. I mean, she was.

[Dustin]

Screw him. She don't know that. You know what I'm saying?

[Francesca]

No, I refuse to.

[Dustin]

They made they breathe the and.

[Francesca]

But they were together, like, all the time. This is hard, and I'm sad about it. Y', all. I couldn't sleep.

[Dustin]

Oh, you needed to know if a Rose was still a rose or if that was her ass screaming up there. And it.

[Francesca]

I got back in the bag under my warm comforter and just felt terrible.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

Oh, no.

[Francesca]

How did I get in this? That's how I want to know.

[Dustin]

You didn't ask for none of this, friend.

[Francesca]

But we bought it. I told y', all. We bought it. The cute little food bowl and the water bowl and the bed. Someone told me to get them a tent that warms up. You know, all the cat people been in my DMs. They said there's a mortgage I could put on the back deck or porch. And it. It's, like, warm inside. I don't know. I'mma figure it out. I think that'll be nice. It is about to be summer, so maybe it's not the right time to get to My hot ass. I'm learning.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

It's going to be four scratches going down to let you know she ain't with that.

[Asante]

Oh, yo, you remember that documentary, Don't.

[Francesca]

Yes. Who could forget that?

[Asante]

Why? So there's this new season of I Wish I didn't.

[Francesca]

What, didn't you bring it to the bench?

[Asante]

Who, me?

[Francesca]

No, that wasn't me.

[Dustin]

I thought it was you.

[Asante]

I thought it was you. You.

[Dustin]

I thought it was you, friend.

[Asante]

I thought it was you, friend.

[Francesca]

I'm have to research the archives because I think that was Dustin.

[Dustin]

That never would have came across my desk. You know what I'm saying? I be watching Zeus, you know, feel.

[Asante]

Like it was you, friend.

[Francesca]

Listeners will tell us they know.

[Asante]

But anyway, the lady.

[Dustin]

Oh, Lord. What y' all want to be a friendly wager? What?

[Francesca]

Should we bed y'? All? Buy me that goddamn cat tent if I'm right.

[Dustin]

Okay. Oh, my God.

[Francesca]

This is becoming a bill.

[Asante]

You need it. You need.

[Dustin]

You need your village. We got you, Fred.

[Asante]

No, we buying a cat, too.

[Francesca]

Yo, speaking of. Of pets, my cat chronicles are over.

[Dustin]

Rose, what happened?

[Francesca]

So we hadn't seen the cat at all. So that was weird. We were like, oh, no, something happened. We were worried about it. The food I had put out was still out there. Water bowl was still full. And then we saw the lady. I guess she had forgotten some stuff or whatever and was, like, picking up some stuff.

[Dustin]

Yeah, Rose, right?

[Francesca]

And it's. I don't know if she heard the part podcast. I don't know if maybe the convo me and her had where I told her I thought it was messed up whatever came to her, or maybe just her own guilt, but I think she came back and got the cat because she's kind of been at the house and. And then all of a sudden, we just don't see the cat anymore. So I think she ended up taking them both. But I. I'm a little sad, but I'm so happy.

[Dustin]

Girl, what did you do with your pussy?

[Francesca]

No. Cause she's a lesbian, and I don't.

[Dustin]

Want her to wonder. Well, you can't ask because it might not be, girl. You know what I'm saying? That's more. We got to make sure we get it right around here.

[Francesca]

Look at us. You don't want to set yourself up.

[Dustin]

You didn't tell me Rose Mama was a lesbian. Now this.

[Francesca]

I told y' all she looked like Ellen and came up to me when.

[Dustin]

She saw you live in Portland.

[Francesca]

You're right.

[Asante]

You're right.

[Dustin]

You Know what I'm saying? She can be a local beauty queen at the local fair. Blue Ribbon Beauty Queen.

[Francesca]

That's the title of this episode. Blue Ribbon.

[Asante]

Blue Ribbon Beauty Queen.

[Francesca]

My word, you're right.

[Dustin]

At the county.

[Francesca]

Anyway, anyway, anyway, my cat, I did.

[Dustin]

Not know that Rose comes from a alternative.

[Francesca]

And Ollie, not an alternative. They're allies.

[Asante]

Her name.

[Dustin]

Look, look, her mama lesbians. And she. They named her daughter Rose.

[Francesca]

Okay, God, you know what?

[Dustin]

I just had to keep on cuz she was a gift.

[Asante]

It's so funny on Rico Nasty one of the songs. She's like, I'm like a rose. I'm vibing with her.

[Francesca]

Oh, Rico, I thought she just dropped me some.

[Asante]

I'm gonna talk about my Spotify.

[Dustin]

Look here, lady neighbor.

[Asante]

Lady neighbor.

[Dustin]

Wait a minute. No, you gonna take that goddamn cat without saying that now you ain't. All this time you've been letting her flounce her ass on over here and be all up in the damn windows, all up in your videos. And you know what I'm saying?

[Francesca]

I'm happy because she gets to be with her sibling, but I'm also like, damn, you know, we built the little bond over the past years and do she really need to be face.

[Dustin]

Do she really need to be in the care of a that didn't give a damn about her in the old days?

[Francesca]

That's the part that made me feel like, what's the CPS for? Pets?

[Dustin]

Yeah, you might need to fight for Rose.

[Asante]

No, but what. What did she found? Look, what if. What if she gifted Rose to her new mistress? She was like, I got you.

[Francesca]

Or maybe she re homed her, you know, rehomed her.

[Dustin]

So I bet if you heard the show. If you heard the show, ma', am, you better be doing right by Rose now. Because Cats, they might have nine lives, but that means they can haunt you at least 10 times. So you remember that.

[Francesca]

I'm gonna miss their little faces peeking at me through the studio when they hungry.

[Dustin]

We should do a crossover with the We Sound Crazy podcast. Shout out to our brothers over there. We should do a crossover.

[Francesca]

We were just trying to figure out how we would do that because it's.

[Dustin]

A lot of voices. We don't have to call it the Sounds of Blackness because it's going to be a whole bunch of us, but we should do a crossover and give Rose the Erbe. The ex. The Erbe Award that they give away every week. The Esther Roll Black Excellence Award. We should give that to Rose this week.

[Asante]

Esther, Rose.

[Dustin]

Have you all seen it? They have a whole montage.

[Francesca]

Idea. I just feel it in my bones.

[Dustin]

Which I hope Rose ain't bones by now.

[Francesca]

No, I know. Hopefully. I don't know. But let's just send thoughts and prayers.

[Asante]

She's not roaming the streets anymore, so let's just be thankful and pray that she's somewhere better.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Dustin]

She better have some Sheba cat food. The good did.

[Francesca]

And you know what, Dustin? You got very lucky because you were in fact the one who brought don't with cats to the show. As I said, shout out to the listeners.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

Yes.

[Asante]

She disappeared. We don't have to buy that. I was so upset when I read.

[Francesca]

You don't have to buy me the heated tent, cuz, you know me. I was going to get the top of the.

[Asante]

I was already ready this. I was already rated dishes. To be honest, I was pissed to be wrong, but I was right. I was like, all right, I'll eat that.

[Francesca]

So y' all good? Y' all good?

[Dustin]

Thank you. And thank you, Rose.

[Francesca]

That is paid. Low maintenance friendships. A lot of you are hitting us up, like, when's that convo? Because apparently a lot of y' all are low maintenance friends. I kind of hate that the three of us are as well, because I feel like it's gonna be a skewed perspective.

[Asante]

Yikes. Yikes.

[Dustin]

A scheme that low maintenance set up.

[Francesca]

So I kind of wish we had someone to counter our arguments. But you know what? We.

[Asante]

That's the kind of friend circle that we kind of ended up in. That's how we, you know, that's how we have avoided chaos. You know?

[Francesca]

You know, it's just an echo chamber. But my first question to you guys, what is your definition of low maintenance friend? Have you heard the term? Because like I said, it's been thrown around a lot. Especially with all the things therapy speak and the blogs and the discourse online. It's something that I kept seeing the term.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

So I'm curious, what would you define as a low maintenance friend?

[Dustin]

Well, at first I thought it meant your friend that you could call when they had to be ready to go somewhere quick.

[Francesca]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dustin]

You know, so like, low maintenance, like, you know, short haircut, you know what I'm saying? Wear a lot of nylon, you know what I'm saying? Just didn't get up. That's what I thought it meant at first.

[Francesca]

What?

[Dustin]

That's what I thought it meant at first.

[Asante]

First.

[Dustin]

But now I know it to be something different. And I'm a low maintenance friend. I don't require Nothing. All I require is you to stay down. That's it. You know what I'm saying? Just what does that mean to you to stay down? To me, staying down means keeping secrets, being trustworthy, being available, showing up for important, showing up for. That's not important. Just, just being present in the capacity of what I know a friend to be, which is someone who is on your side, okay, in, in things and someone who wants, and by on your side, I mean they want the best for you, they want success for you, they want health for you, they want wealth for you, they want happiness and joy for you. They're on your side. That's what a friend is. Or someone that you want to be on their side, you want those great things for them, them, right? So once you establish that about each other and you live long enough to understand the importance and value of trust, you know, when, when it went unobligated trust, right, and unobligated, you know, loyalty, things like that, without the obligations or connections of family, you know, or, or anything other than, you know, it's by choice, basically. Once you understand the value, then you know how to show up for other people. It's not hard to do. And, and so you do meet people along the way who want more from you or who want more or want different than what is required. I understand my requirement to be low and true. And so that's it, you know what I'm saying? That's it. I'm low maintenance and I think I'm perfect.

[Francesca]

I think I'm perfect, okay?

[Asante]

So when I hear the term low maintenance friend, it takes me on a journey. So let's try to pick apart Asante's thoughts, right? Low maintenance. I think of Tik Tok and the videos that I scroll right past because I see low maintenance friends are problematic or low maintenance friends suck or blah blah, blah. But when I think of, when I think of low maintenance, so I don't know what the Internet's actual definition would be perceived as because when I think of a low maintenance friend, I think of friendships that yes there is, you know, you have to maintain them, but they are low because you don't have to do like you not having to do a lot to maintain these friends, friendships but because the quality matters more so than the quantity of minutes that you spend with this friend. Like that's how I view it. But I feel like when I see the conversation come up of low maintenance friends, it does come up in this, like in conversation of like oh my God, my friends are so Low maintenance. Like, I can't take it, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, I mean, I'm low maintenance, but I don't look at it as me. I'm being a lazy friend. Like, when I do call my friends, like, we may not speak every day, but when we. Like Dustin, when he called me the other night, all we did was laugh, laugh. We couldn't even have a conversation. And I don't know, I thought to myself, what would this, like, imagine if we spoke every day like this? It would be that would we sound insane. So it was good. I mean, yes, you have, you can call me. We have different variations of crazy, but I feel like it's still low maintenance because it's like you don't feel like you have to give me this crazy every time we talk, which is great. It's amazing. I feel like the quality of it is really what comes up in conversation. And I feel like people sometimes forget that. Yes, friendship is a two way street, but you also have to kind of communicate to people what you need, if you need more of something so they can give it to you. Because it's like, oh, we're friends. I love you. So if you need me to call you more, I'm definitely going to call you more. And so I am going to harass you more when I do call you as opposed to, you know, just waiting to. You want me to hit you up? Because sometimes I feel like I'm an emotional person. So if I hit you up, I feel like I might be hitting you up too much. But if I know that you actually do need me to bug you the way that I do bug you, then I will continue to do so and I will do it, you know, as much as I want to, until you're finally like, all right, well, that was a little bit too much. And then I have to, you know, figure out how to dial it back, I guess, which is boring. But I hate running the risk of being a high maintenance friend. So I choose to keep my signal setting on low because I'm an emotional person yet again. And it's not that I. Well, it's partially overthinking as part of it is still, oh, people pleasing programming. Because when you choose friends that you love, you want to pour into that relationship. Relationship. But I try to pull back a lot because I know I can be a lot in one setting. So it's like, all right, I've given you a lot of love. So that's, that's, you know, what the strength is. So now you get this, you know, bundle of love whenever you want it, but like in spurts, not all the time. So real low maintenance, you know, don't want to put it off on you all the time. And I feel like sometimes people don't realize or see that there might be a balance. They might just see that imbalance and like, why is this happening? It's like, oh, oh, well, there's a give and take. And I wasn't sure if I was, you know, taking too much or giving too much and how to offset that.

[Francesca]

See, for me, low maintenance. I just think of that friend that you don't have to speak regularly, you know, like, but when you do speak, it's fine. There's no. They don't do that thing where like, oh, I text you or why haven't I heard? We don't even go into any of that. It's just like you pick up right where you left off, where, you know, like, there's just no tension about it. It's, it's low maintenance in the sense that like, it's not a daily lift. But it doesn't change either because of that. So these are our definitions. Right. One of my favorite things is to go on, which I don't know if a lot of people know that a lot of therapists and psychotherapists and psychiatrists have blogs. Of course they do. In these days. Right. Everyone's a brain and. But it's actually really interesting to read because it's like they make their studies, you know, and what they're licensed in a lot more palatable.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You know, they wrap it up in a way that you can really understand. And so I was looking through the therapist blogs. There's one I love called kmatherapy.com because I was curious what their thoughts were. And love, I love that I looked it up and they had a whole section on low maintenance friends because I guess this is really a point of contention for people. Like Asante said, for some people they think is great. They're like, I'm so grateful for my low maintenance friendships. They don't make me feel stressed. But there are also people that think that it makes you a shitty friend.

[Dustin]

Well, that it makes you.

[Francesca]

That it makes you.

[Asante]

There's levels to it.

[Francesca]

Yeah. It makes you a neglectful friend. That a lot of people are just lazy with their friends and that a lot of people pour more energy into their romantic relationships but treat their friends kind of like afterthoughts where you're way more willing to cancel plans on them before you cancel on that girl you're interested in, that boy interested in. Like your friends just kind of get the shit end of the stick because you just assume they'll like be there regardless. Whereas with the love interest, you kind of feel like you need to do more to keep them there, but you don't keep that same energy for your friends. Yeah. And so that's a lot of the contention that I noticed that the therapists were kind of working through in showing both sides of the coin. What were you going to say, Dustin?

[Dustin]

I only think that it becomes an issue when that, when there's, when there's been a change in the communication, right. All friendships don't start off talking every day. Talking, whatever. You can have very strong, silent, lifelong friendships with people that you never talked to every day. I think this can be taken personally when your friendship start started off at a place where y' all kicked it every day on a regular basis and it stayed that way for a lengthy amount of time period, usually multiple years, and then randomly out the blue, the communication changes, Right? I think that's where I'm speaking from a personal place like that's where, you know what I'm saying? I've had issues with that, you know what I'm saying? But it was not from. It was not rooted in than me having a problem with the person being a low maintenance friend, per this definition, because I am too. But when it's even more emphatic because as a low maintenance friend, the fact that our connection was on a daily level like that and at a point where that's how we vibed, you know what I'm saying, For many, many years, for it to change it then became an issue where I took it personally, right? So I think that distinction matters, you know what I'm saying? It's not just about the fact that it's a low man's friend. And so you feel like you're not calling me enough. Sometimes it's not that. Sometimes it's no, that wasn't how we got down and now we.

[Francesca]

Right. Like something changed and I'm not understanding. And a lot of times that does happen when our friends and us included, when you get into relationships, right? Because it's like you now you have to juggle your time. And a lot of times people aren't that great at juggling their romantic relationships.

[Asante]

Especially when we living in New York, you know what I'm saying?

[Francesca]

Saying, right.

[Asante]

Being on the train 45 minutes alone, you know what I'm saying? And so now you got to remember to check in with, you know, your.

[Dustin]

Friends, your new love interest.

[Asante]

You still got work, you still got your family that don't live there or live there and yourself, you know.

[Francesca]

Right. Just trying to sustain as a human. But when the KMA Therapy blog their definition of low maintenance friendship, they said a low maintenance friendship is a relationship where you maintain your closeness with another person without necessarily necessarily speaking to them every day. They're the type of friendships that are able to last over time and across distance, which I love because that's true considering like how all of us have moved. And it says, and you feel like you can pick up where you left off, like no time has passed. Right. But what they say, the pros of low maintenance friendships is the flexibility. And I feel like that's a lot of. Especially as creatives. Not even though, because nine to five people still don't really have time to be fucking around, especially if they're married and have kids. By the time they come home, they gotta cook dinner and then it's homework and then it's putting the kids to bed. Like, there's a lot that happens in your life where you, your friendship, your time for friendships and your bandwidth for friendship starts changing. I actually saw this, the BBC, which, I will bring up that article later, but they had an article that focused on the science of friendship, which I really loved. And one of the points they brought up is that friendships have what they call a U curve. Where in your adolescence it was such a big part of your development. Right. Think about it. How often did you see your friends? You're always on the phone, always looking to hang out at school, you're seeing each other daily, then you're linking up later, then you're meeting in the weekends were such a woven part of your fabric as a human being. But then you get into the middle range of your life. Relationships, marriages, grief, death, you know, things you're figuring out your jobs, your careers, and so your friendships kind of take a backseat. But then when you're elderly, your kids have left, maybe you lost your partner, maybe you're alone, whatever the case, then that friendship wraps right back around. So that's. That you curve.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

That friendships tend to take in the course of a life. I thought that was really interesting how the elderly, they even say like they turn back into kids. You know, when people say that, like their needs and their interests and just the way that they move through the.

[Dustin]

Course, they got a song about it. Thank you for being a friend. They got a song about it.

[Francesca]

But what I love about, about low maintenance friendships is like how enduring. I think for me personally is like the endurance. Like I think of me and Claude. For those of you who are newer listeners, Claude is. Claude Kelly is my best friend since we were 13, 14 years old. We're now in our 40s, which is crazy to think about. Crazy because you saw them coming out my mouth in our 40s. And we, and we still speak regularly. And that's my best friend. He's come to see me in Portland. I've come to see him. He now lives in Nashville. We used to take the train together every morning to go to high school. And we're always together, always on the phone. You know, funny thing is when I went off to college and he went off to college, we didn't speak. And I remember even when in my early 20s I started getting in my relationships and his career was blowing up, like we didn't speak as much. And it's funny how we came right back around, maybe in our. Yeah, in our later 20s, and like picked right back up from high school and then just been really close ever since, where we kind of vowed to never allow relationship to happen again. Yeah. To get in the way of how we feel about each other. And we kind of made that pact and have kept to it ever since. And we don't speak weekly. We don't speak. Speak daily. We don't have any of that. But our friendship is so deep and beautiful. And I wouldn't trade him for the world. Like, I'm so blessed because you hear a lot of people saying they don't have people they can trust. A lot of people. I saw in an article that studies say it was actually a Refinery 29 article on low maintenance friendship. So you can look up. I'll list all the articles that I use. Also I'll list them in the description box in case you want to read them for yourselves. But Refinery 29 had a study that said in the 90s only 3% of people felt that they didn't have close friends. But since now that we're in like 2000s, it's jumped to 13% where people just don't feel that close to their friends. I'm sure this has a lot to do with social media. Right.

[Dustin]

Which is crazy because it's supposed to connect people.

[Asante]

Right.

[Dustin]

So the fact it's like we're hyper.

[Francesca]

Connected but also more disconnected. And that's what's so interesting about how that works. And I think a lot of it too, which I'VE heard a lot of people say when talking about their friends is like, it's a fake sense of connection because you see where they're at, you see what they're doing, what they look like, where they went this week, what they ate, what their workout was. And it's just like a superficial surface level friendship that most people maintain because they think that leaving you a little comment saying hbd, pressing a light is the depth of your relationship nowadays. But like, have you called them? You know, have y' all talked about how they do?

[Dustin]

You know their name, Instagram name?

[Francesca]

No, you didn't. And I remember one thing I did and I don't know if it's petty, but I just felt like I needed to do it for me. I deleted a bunch of numbers on my phone from people in my life that I didn't really speak. Speak to as much anymore. That I felt like we didn't have a thing anymore, you know, like, you know, those people, like exes, certain people. And so now if anyone texts me and I don't have your number locked in, I don't respond because I know that you're not someone that is part of like my day to day. You probably maybe just text me because it's my birthday or something you saw online. You know what I mean? I don't want those types of connections.

[Dustin]

You don't want to open up the connection, right?

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm not somebody, someone that blocks people. Like, I've never blocked anyone on my phone, but I more so just removed myself energetically. Where if you're not. If there's not a name that pops up, then that means that we don't speak as regularly as we need to for you to have access to me, if that makes sense.

[Dustin]

And that makes sense, perfect sense to me.

[Francesca]

It's an adjustment that I made and that's what makes sense to me, you know, and that's not to say like, like my best friend with the. With my nieces and nephews in San Francisco. We barely talk at this point. She's a mom of three kids and the girl don't have time for herself. The last thing I need to do is be stressing her about the last time she texts and calls. And that was a hard adjustment because this is the same girl that we were at the club every Thursday, Friday and Saturday. We lived in Brazil together for a whole year. We have done so much. And now I barely speak to her. And that is a hard transition. You miss your friend. But I also understand the Evolution of life. And this is just not where she's at anymore. And I'm okay with. With that because I fly to see her. You know what I mean? I call her. I am the friend that has to initiate it, initiate more, but I don't feel away because I know that it's not her my. It's not her heart, it's her mind. You know what I'm saying? I know the difference, and I know she loves me. And when I call, she's so excited. And when I visit, she feels so thankful that I want to be in her baby's lives. And I always remember their personal birthdays. I come for Christmas or whatever the case. And it is a connection that I've had to adjust how we interact. But I'm okay being the one that has to do more of the pouring.

[Dustin]

Yeah, see, that's because you're a good friend.

[Asante]

It's more than okay. See, when I talk about quality and quantity, that's what we really have to focus on. We think about these friendships, right? And we have to think about even the timing of them. Like when. When you first meet a friend, you know, what stage of life you're at. When you're younger, it's a little bit different. When you're older, it's, you know, it's completely different because when you're younger, you have school or activities that you meet people at regularly. When you're older, you have to, I guess, work a little bit harder, whether you're meeting people at work or going out to actual events to meet people. I saw somebody post a meme the other day about the gays. You know, like, there are all these men outside, and you, y' all at home acting like y' all can't get one go outside. And I thought that was so funny because I'm the one. I'm one of the main ones sitting at home. Like, I think I want some, but I don't want to go outside. But I was like, you know what? I have to put forth that effort. So when you think about friendships as an adult, you have to figure out what effort you're putting forth. Whatever you put in early, whatever you feel like you need return to you when it's happening, if it's not happening, what the difference might be in that. And I feel like a lot of people aren't taking those, the time out to see that. So when they're like, oh, this person is low maintenance. Well, why are they low maintenance? Or they just get caught up and may be like, oh, we had such a good time. Why aren't we having these good times anymore? It's like, all right, well, their life has changed a little bit, so let me give them a little bit of a break. Hell, they actually could use a good time like this. So let me figure out how I can schedule a good time and then we can get that moment back and then we can build from there. I can figure out how I can be there for them while they're going through this moment. Or, you know, I need to let them chill and I need to work on what I got going on. And when it's time for us both to come back around, we can both be ready and we got our wallets ready. We can actually go travel somewhere or do something. Like, there are just many different ways. There's no one siiz fits all. And I feel like when people see certain things like low maintenance friend, they read into it. That's why I was like, I scroll right past those Tik Tok videos. I'm not really sure what it meant, but I felt like it resonated with me in this sense. And that's the sense that I like it. And that's cool. Like, I remember you were saying before when I had the conversation about what was the made up word? I don't even remember what it was because these are made up Internet terms. So it's like they get you buzzing and some of them, they kind of get you in your fields versus them getting you wondering, like, okay, like, well, what's the upside? What's the downside? How does that play? And how can I actually use that to benefit me? If there is a downside versus, oh, there's a downside, that's bad.

[Dustin]

Boo boo.

[Asante]

Because, you know, you see certain terms go viral and then it's just like, all right, well, now we have another term for something.

[Francesca]

Bad bed, rotting bed riding.

[Asante]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just little things like that where we should be able to be able to look at our human experience and work and build each other up or build ourselves up. So when I see a low maintenance friend and I see somebody look at it negatively, it's like, all right, well, this person's low maintenance. Let me figure out how to tune them up versus, you know, make it into a game, I guess. I don't know if it's a friendship that you truly value. You know, there's some certain friendships where it's like, all right, this person doesn't put forth a lot of effort because they truly don't care, you know, whether they're depressed or whether they just, you know, really don't give a about me. And I don't really feel like figuring the time out to figure that out, so I'm gonna move on. That's your life experience. That's. That's your choice to make. And if the friendship comes back later and they're like, hey, I actually, you know, I actually do miss you as a friend and I'm sorry that, you know, I wasn't there. And then it's like, damn, that's a new awakening because now you have accountability for this friend and y' all can start a new chapter or you have what you need to close the chapter. You know what? Like, I'm so glad you, you told me that. And I do miss our friendship, but I'm good on that. Like, however you want to move forward, it's all yours. This life to live. And I just hate that certain things like this come up and it makes us want to look at ourselves in a bad way. And I just want to choose to be constructive when I see certain terms like this used against me, not against you. Yes, thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[Dustin]

This is the friend zone.

[Francesca]

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[Asante]

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[Asante]

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[Dustin]

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[Asante]

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[Francesca]

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[Asante]

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[Asante]

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[Francesca]

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[Dustin]

Yeah, it's about that time. We ain't had to really, really tear somebody the up in a minute but it's time and it's because they didn't bother the wrong person this time. Now, y' all know that there is a and unofficial yet so official list of people that are just protected across the diaspora, right? Like if you are a person that is black, you protect these people, right? And it's a few people on that list. Two of them happen to have the same first name. And we're going to talk about one of them today. That first name is Michelle, okay? And this Michelle's last name is Williams. Not Williams. Williams. You gotta say like that because we talking about some. We standing on the black today and you see the police coming because they know I'm finna for real, for real. They know I'm f to it up. For real, for real. And I, you know, I do this for a living so I know how to feel the space. I can just keep going down and you can get back to it like we fitting to do now recently. Michelle, my Bell Bridgerton, the Bridge Williams. Okay? One of the members who. That's right, that's right. Put it on it, put it on it. Put a handle on her name, please, please. And that's all of that to you, okay? That's how y' all better address her. Start respecting Michelle Williams. Now, y' all laughed when she fell on 106 and park, but she laughed at that. So we have been moving collectively, right? And we love Michelle's. We don't bother her. Well, somebody did. According to the neighborhood talk, Michelle Williams made a post on her Instagram that was a photo of a black foot next to her window. The plane. For those of you on Patreon, I let you see the foot photo.

[Francesca]

I can't even make out. Oh, my God.

[Asante]

You didn't have to.

[Dustin]

Okay, no, that's the foot photo right there.

[Asante]

I felt like I smed it.

[Dustin]

That's your Patreon. Now, Michelle Williams Captions horror film she says in all capital letters, I promise you better get your foot from me with an exclamation point in a red light emoji. A siren. Red light emoji.

[Asante]

Yes.

[Dustin]

She said, y', all, this is happening now on my flight. And I am crying real tears. After that, she posted a video. And I'm gonna play the video of what Michelle had to say about that damn foot on the plane. And I'm gonna put my foot in the ass of the foot that was on the plane. Here we go, y'.

[Francesca]

All. I was s. Itching. I'm itching, baby. Just out my little peripheral. Just, just Just out. And I said, no. Little object of some sort, And it don't matter to me what class you fly. I don't care. I still like Southwest. So you.

[Dustin]

You.

[Francesca]

You're not gonna shame me into whatever class it was. So people are like, well, you shouldn't.

[Dustin]

You shouldn't have been flying coach.

[Francesca]

I was flying first class. My seat was 3F, and I didn't know the F was going to be for feet. No, she didn't.

[Dustin]

Being the humble queen she is, you see, she made it. Made it. Made it her business to have a section of the video where she said, listen, it's not about what class you're flying in. She said, I still fly Southwest. I love Southwest west, you know. She said, she's a humble, generous queen. And she said, but she was actually in first class and her seat was 3F, and she didn't know the F was for foot. Now, that was Michelle nicely and mildly, you know, expressing her shock, okay, when she turned around and seen a foot next to her in that window. And it was a crusty foot at that. A dry foot response to the we are. Because I feel like it's certain people you don't disrespect. And Michelle Williams is one of them people. Now, she won't say, but I will. What the is wrong with you? You have some respect. You got your razor blade right cheese grater, foot ass foots sitting up here next to this goddamn window contaminating the plane. The plane. You know what I'm saying? That's horrible. And how dare. That is Michelle Williams from Destiny's Child, the one person who. Stay out. The media don't have no problems with nobody. You knew it was her because we everybody know who Michelle Williams is. And your foot was black. So your black ass definitely knew that that was Michelle Williams in front of you. And you put your foot up there anyway. And that's why I have a problem with you.

[Asante]

That's crazy.

[Dustin]

I have a problem with you because I know that that was a black person, okay? That's what we know for sure. That was a black person's foot. And whoever that was knew who Michelle Williams was. And you put your foot up. You had the. The audacity, the gall to just put. To put your foot up next to Michelle Williams.

[Francesca]

I wonder if she says something. Y' all think she said says something.

[Dustin]

If she ain't never hit a high note. That's when she should have turned around. After all of the darkness insane. That's when she should have turned around singing that because she survived that.

[Asante]

Let's take a moment to talk to the people because I feel like we always have some sort of travel rant any way. But I feel like this is important, right?

[Dustin]

Because that was Michelle Williams.

[Asante]

Yes, it was Michelle.

[Dustin]

Put your foot on Michelle Williams.

[Asante]

You don't put your foot on anybody's body.

[Dustin]

Share Williams.

[Asante]

You know, being anybody.

[Francesca]

Start there.

[Asante]

Let's come all the way back on.

[Francesca]

The flight in the first place. That's why I said this is clearly a very different black because like I don't know anyone.

[Asante]

Now I understand traveling can be uncomfortable. I understand you got to do what you need to do and I'm a.

[Dustin]

Hippie, but you a have to do that.

[Francesca]

Take my shoes off. I'm not going to lie to you. I take my shoes off on everybody every flight. Because my flight usually is long five plus hours. And it, you know, your foot swells, it just gets uncomfortable.

[Dustin]

But you have a sock on.

[Francesca]

Not only do I have a sock on, I have travel slippers.

[Dustin]

There you go.

[Francesca]

That I keep in my bag. In a bag because planes are dirty. Take them out, put them on my feet. And that's the only way I walk around the flight when I take off my shoes.

[Asante]

Amen.

[Dustin]

Right?

[Francesca]

Take them from the hotel. It don't need to be nothing expensive.

[Asante]

Just like keep your foot, keep your feet covered. Keep them under the seat. If you're gonna put them like above your head, don't put them in front of you or behind you because like I don't want to see if we're coming from behind either. I, I don't want to see it in front of. I don't want to see your feet. I don't.

[Dustin]

I'm gonna elbow the foot personally. And I always be in the window. Y' all know that's my.

[Asante]

I might make a scene. I might make it real like high passive aggressive turn. I'll be. Excuse me mean, I don't mean to bother you, but your foot, it's just, it's, it's not even just over here. It's, it's right, it's, it's tapping my headphone. I just need you to. Yes.

[Dustin]

Michelle Williams is a woman of God. I would have turned around and started speaking in tongues. Oh my God. That's why I just scared the out there. Don't let it be a red eye if it's nighttime sleep. I turn around, I started speaking in tongues and in the dark, scaring the out of everybody.

[Asante]

Hold on.

[Dustin]

I'd have been reading my book for the bins. Join us on Patreon patreon.com friends on podcast. Well, while we have the situation and the binge. But I use my book light. That's right. We were reading the note by Alafa Burke and you can too. How to had my book light from the note and put it on my face. And so I had like that. That scary movie telling a scary story. How to put that light on my face and spoke in all of the tongues. Let me tell you.

[Francesca]

And you could. And come on. You could feel. If you have your foot and it's touching a person's elbow or some. You could feel it.

[Dustin]

And that. Michelle. How dare you.

[Francesca]

Disgusting, y'. All.

[Dustin]

She know Beyonce, mama. She know Beyonce.

[Francesca]

No, you didn't.

[Dustin]

I just don't believe nobody should bother Michelle. She don't bother nobody else. You're putting your foot foot next to her is disrespectful as that is ultra true.

[Asante]

Michelle does nothing to anyone. She's a beautiful person. She's a super talented person who giving loving.

[Dustin]

Right. Why would you want to put your foot on her?

[Asante]

Why not give her anything less than heaven?

[Dustin]

Exactly. And your foot ain't gonna make it. Okay. So me personally, I hope you get gangrene. I hope the fall off.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Airport throw their feet on nasty ass.

[Francesca]

Oh. You ever seen when they go into the bathroom barefoot, the bare feet. Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

I can. I would literally die.

[Francesca]

No, literally.

[Dustin]

Literally. Can you imagine stepping in some piss?

[Francesca]

Oh, God. You. Are you going to step and piss even if you can't see it?

[Dustin]

I would.

[Francesca]

Men piss on those toilets. And y' all know how y' all aims?

[Asante]

No.

[Francesca]

Oh, and then you take it back home.

[Dustin]

No, you put it back and rub a dog.

[Francesca]

And then some people don't shower when they get home from flights. They just get in the bed.

[Dustin]

You might as well sleep in a petri dish with your nasty ass. What the hell is wrong with you? Why would you put your foot on Michelle? Nasty.

[Asante]

So nasty.

[Francesca]

Oh.

[Dustin]

Anyway, her and this is my BMW, but yours is mf because that's the only type of person would do something like that. That's horrible.

[Francesca]

It is horrible.

[Dustin]

You. On behalf of the fans of Desi's Child and Michelle Williams, as a solo act, we break the dawn around here. And we break your ass too.

[Asante]

If you.

[Dustin]

If you with Michelle. That pissed me off.

[Francesca]

Dustin is really mad about this. Damn.

[Asante]

Okay, okay, wait. Just really quickly because when Jesus say.

[Dustin]

Yes, Dustin will break your toe.

[Asante]

Okay. I also want to shout out the Tiny Desk series.

[Francesca]

Even Though she's getting slaughtered, I love her still.

[Asante]

See? Oh, I want to start.

[Francesca]

That's a hard song to sing.

[Asante]

I wanted to to start on a good note and you just went right.

[Dustin]

In so she be looking like spongebob after she finished.

[Asante]

You know, I was going to start somewhere with, you know, the Tiny Desk series. You know, it still happens, as you know. We know because of what we're talking about. By the time you're hearing this, Whis Khalifa will have put out a tiny desk.

[Francesca]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Asante]

It just came out yesterday, so I'm going to watch it. That's why I was like, wow, I do too. I I with whiskey.

[Francesca]

I just think he's adorable.

[Asante]

But to the me potatoes of this, a Marie was on tiny desk.

[Dustin]

And feet worked out. But you know, they could put that laser on your toenail now to do.

[Francesca]

What he gotta do.

[Dustin]

Yeah, you know, I just. You get them feet together, we could talk about it.

[Asante]

And so.

[Dustin]

And he was ashy a couple times too, but that's easy. You know what I'm saying? It's an easy conversation.

[Francesca]

Josie Marin, Argon, Body Butter BB Cuz I'm.

[Dustin]

I put him on that go funny.

[Asante]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[Dustin]

You gonna stay around business me. Okay. Toenails ain't black and yellow. Black and yellow.

[Asante]

Go ahead. Amory was on Tiny Desk. A lot of people had a lot to say about her performance. And as I said, when Amory came out for Coachella during my money long set, it's just always good to see Amory. There are just certain artists that it's just always good to see them. And it was good to see Amory at Tiny Desk. Now, I know she may not have sounded, you know, the best, but she was very happy. Her energy was up and you can tell that there's still a presence there, that some artists, when they come back after being gone for so long, it may not be as bright. But with Amory, she was burning bright. And we got to actually see more of that brightness at the BET award Awards. So.

[Dustin]

Yeah, she wasn't playing at the BET Awards.

[Francesca]

You.

[Dustin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francesca]

But also I felt a lot of the dissonance was coming from her background singers.

[Asante]

You know, Tiny Desk.

[Francesca]

Yeah. You know, Fran, like, let's be real here. We know what. We know what Amy sounds like. I don't want to hear from nobody. You must not be listening to Amory. I don't know what you wanted to hear hear from her, but the background singers are what shocked me the most because it Was like, what is. What do they got going on? Because a lot of times, a background singer will actually help. You know what I mean? We've seen that. Usually they are the support. The emotional support involved.

[Dustin]

Y' all seen Hercules? Yeah. Just.

[Francesca]

I didn't know what was going on back there. But with Amory, you knew what it was when you saw signed up.

[Asante]

Fran, you have more musical experience than I do, so I do know that there. It can be an art to background singing. Like, even a selection. Sometimes you want a variation, Sometimes you want similars and different variations. Sometimes you want, you know, a polarizing effect. So I was also confused. I wasn't really sure of what was, like, the design. Yeah.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Asante]

So I'm glad you brought.

[Francesca]

Well, and maybe because they are. They are a. What's it called? The DC Bands.

[Dustin]

Go Go Band.

[Asante]

The backyard Band.

[Francesca]

They are the AGO band.

[Asante]

So I'm not saying that they're battering culturally.

[Francesca]

I was like, maybe culturally. This is a different sound that didn't translate well.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Tiny desk. You feel me? Like, I don't know if in the format of Tiny Desk, maybe on a. On a. On a record or in a different way, live some different way. That type of. Type of background vocal will hit different.

[Dustin]

But were those her. Well, there's her background singers, or were they a part of the backyard band?

[Francesca]

That's the question I have, because I don't know.

[Asante]

Well, I know one of the background singers. I think specifically the. The young woman in the middle. She's a. She's a background singer. Like, not a background singer, but she's an actual artist. Because when I was somebody, when I was watching, they were like, oh, that's xyz. And I was like, okay, that's cool.

[Dustin]

Well, listen, that. We ain't gonna sit here.

[Francesca]

How they work together. You know what I mean? I don't. They're individually bad singers. They just have not been or something.

[Dustin]

They could have had an off day. But they did sound like they were singing in them massage chairs at the.

[Asante]

And some of those tracks, you know, are like, it is a challenge. One thing. Doing back backup vocals for one thing. Doing main vocals for one thing. Like, it's a challenge.

[Francesca]

Like, that's backup vocals is hard.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You could sing and still not be able to.

[Asante]

Yeah. Yet.

[Francesca]

So.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

But I feel like she got the brunt of the hit, and it just wasn't that.

[Dustin]

Kelly Price. Let me stop. Let me just stop. I'll put it on the stage. Go ahead.

[Asante]

As I said, it was just great to See Amerie, and as you guys saw, she definitely took control and redeemed herself on the BET stage. So shout out to Amerie. Mariah the Scientist performed. A lot of clips of her are up. A lot of clips of all of them performing have been going around. And the one that keeps showing up to me because my friends think that it is funny are Mariah the Scientist clips.

[Dustin]

How you think she sound, Tay?

[Francesca]

Oh, I thought you were asking me.

[Asante]

Honestly, I didn't partake.

[Francesca]

You didn't press play.

[Asante]

Every time a clip is sent to me, I'll start to press play, and then I'll be like, I don't think I'm supposed to be here. Because you know how you have grace for artists in certain respects. Like, you're like, all right. Like, I find that very quickly. I'm not gonna have the grace that I should have. So I just, like, remove myself, you know, which is not fair. So it's like, I can't report whether she was good or bad. I had a good laugh every time.

[Dustin]

I feel like everybody can have a bad performance. People have a bad performance. But when you start having multiple, that's an issue.

[Francesca]

All of them. That's like, it's not a thing of like, oh, it was one. It's like, have we seen. Seen one?

[Asante]

Like, I'm waiting for a moment where it's like, okay, that was.

[Dustin]

I liked.

[Asante]

I can it.

[Francesca]

This is. This.

[Asante]

That's acceptable for me.

[Dustin]

I don't know. I've seen her have bad performances. I want you to have a take. Oh, yeah, Take on this.

[Asante]

I haven't seen this because she. She frequently has bad performances to me.

[Dustin]

So that's why you didn't watch the latest one.

[Asante]

Because I know what she does, and I'm not a fan.

[Dustin]

And what does she do?

[Asante]

Not good work.

[Francesca]

She makes me feel the way when people misunderstand the energy I have for, like, a JLo, right? I don't know JLo. I can't dislike JLo. I've never met her. But what makes me frustrated is when I see the amount of talent out there on a personal level, because we have friends all. All. You know what I'm saying? That desire deserve to be catapulted in those ways. And not saying that JLO isn't talented, but the looks that she got as far as records for someone that cannot sing is very crazy to me.

[Dustin]

So funny you say that.

[Francesca]

Me, Mariah the Scientist is the same. It's like, how did we get here? That's the question I have. She's a beautiful girl. People talk a lot about her writing. So why isn't she just an amazing writer? You know what I'm saying?

[Asante]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Francesca]

Let her be a beautiful, amazing writer that we admire.

[Asante]

Like, real quick, let me interject this and then I'll let you go, dustin.rk on Twitter. I randomly was on Twitter before I, you know, log off. I always get on for like a couple of minutes. R.K. jackson at the said, Mariah the Scientist kind of sings like a stripper that died in the club. Died in the club. Or her last dance, but doesn't know she's dead.

[Francesca]

What?

[Asante]

And, okay, that was so funny to me. I'm sorry. I just always do get this, like, I'm just not on her vibe. And I think that's where I always just stop with her, please. Go on, Dustin.

[Dustin]

Well, I was dialing back to the JLO piece. It's just so funny you say that today because I saw an interview of her earlier today. I think she's promoting her new film, Kiss of the Spider Woman. It's a movie musical directed by Bill Condon, off Broadway. She was saying that she trained her voice. She said that she was always a fan of, like, Broadway musicals and shit. And she trained. She sings Broadway style. She said that's her style of singing. So she said. Now, this is directly out of her mouth, right? She said that when people hear her sing Broadway songs, they're shocked. Like, oh, I didn't know you could sing like that. She's like, I actually prefer to sing like this. This is how I train my voice. I just had to sing those pop songs or whatever, but I'm actually like a Broadway singer. She was like, this is how I sing. So that's what she said in the interview I saw today. I'm interested to see what that means as far as, like, her vocals in Kiss of the Spider Woman, which I think she's actually gonna do good in the film. She might even get her Oscar from that bill. Kinda has that touch. He was behind Dream Girls. And you know what if she does.

[Francesca]

Because she, like, put in the work. And let's say she did train her voice to sing Broadway.

[Dustin]

I'm telling you.

[Francesca]

You will see now. I'm telling you, it's killing me right now.

[Dustin]

She said that in the interview today. And that's why I was like, did she say that? She said that?

[Francesca]

I'm just so sensitive to this because when I see, like, India Sean, like, you know what I'm saying? This is why this, like, it just it just does something to me because then you have someone so phenomenal like an India Sean who has been grinding since the early 2000. That. That don't make sense to me. A girl that can sing and write and is beautiful and is all of the things.

[Dustin]

That's why I get so she was on cbs. She was on Sunday morning. On cbs. Sunday Morning. That's the interview I'm talking about. It's Jennifer Lopez and her cbs. Well, you know what?

[Francesca]

I'm. I'm looking forward to hearing this more Broadway style voice that she's saying she trained for. Let's hear it. I'm looking forward to hearing it.

[Dustin]

It'll be interesting to see. I. Yeah, I just heard her say that, you know, that's what she said. Let's see if she's singing in the trailer. Let me see if I can find.

[Francesca]

Oh yeah, actually roll that beautiful BE footage. But no, no, never, never. She don't sound bad.

[Asante]

She doesn't sound bad.

[Dustin]

Where the note.

[Asante]

Oh, no.

[Francesca]

See, she don't sound bad. But you have to remember she didn't sound bad on the albums either.

[Dustin]

Especially over Ashanti voice.

[Francesca]

It's when you are singing live that is where everything gets told. The real story gets so. So yeah, a movie. Of course they're gonna have a sound. I'm sure it's some other vocals tucked under there. You know what I mean?

[Dustin]

But I don't know. I really want her to do good. She was good in hustling, sitting with her legs open in fur coats. She was good in hustlers, you know what I'm saying? I wanted, I wanted to do well in this.

[Francesca]

She's a great. She's a great entertainer. I will never take that away from K. I remember being young and watching her music videos was fun. You know what I mean? Like it was fun.

[Dustin]

What about the one when she was taking that stuff off on the beach during that challenge that nobody did remember. But I think she's going to do good in this film. I'm excited to see it. And I don't think she never been nobody's Whitney Houston. So why is she trying to say that? I guess she's trying to legitimize herself before this the movie comes out. Right.

[Francesca]

Doc, Was it on Netflix, I think where it was like about her life, she said. And there was a clip where she said she has always been insecure about her voice, you know, like she always about mine too. She's insecure.

[Dustin]

I know I can't sing.

[Francesca]

Yeah, but you also weren't trying to do it professionally. I've tried the difference but anyway.

[Dustin]

I've tried several times.

[Francesca]

She's an entertainer and so I'm sure she's going to do Fab, you know, never.

[Asante]

She's an entertainer.

[Dustin]

I want to hear a little like you know.

[Asante]

Would you want to hear Mariah the scientist do a musical movie?

[Dustin]

She don't have a strong enough voice and I love her new project, I love her album but she doesn't have a strong enough voice for that. She has moments where she pushes but she doesn't have a strong enough voice at all for that. But she's a hell of a songwriter. I really wish she would write for other artists cuz I think she's like a brilliant. That's why people love our music. The music is because of the stuff that she said.

[Asante]

I just won't take her live. I won't like. I don't. I don't not want her to be successful. I just. Me personally, I don't need her live. Like if she comes out on stage I'm not gonna be like boo, get her off. I'm gonna just go to the bar and get a drink. Like you know, I'm not a hater. So let me.

[Francesca]

And really this has more to do with the industry. Right?

[Asante]

Yeah. Back to your earlier point.

[Francesca]

If you were given an opportunity and you can't sing and someone says here's a deal and you're gonna be thrown on rolling.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

What's the rolling? Loud and all these tours and be on everything.

[Asante]

And if the people love it, if there's a market for it, who am I to. Who are me to tell you not to spend the dollars there?

[Francesca]

Right. And I have to be realistic about that too. Right. This is more of an industry issue that they are going to choose the J Los and the Mariah, the Scientists over other artists that already are giving you the vocal, can sing it live, can sing it in the studio. Like. You know what I mean? That's the part where I get like er, we. But at the end of the day they are human beings who wanted this dream as well and they got it. And that's. Yeah.

[Dustin]

And Jennifer Lopez is going far not to be able to sing like that.

[Francesca]

Yeah. But because she is a good entertainer, like I said, we can't take away her dancing.

[Dustin]

I can't wait.

[Asante]

She has a very distinct presence. That's good.

[Dustin]

I can't wait, bro.

[Francesca]

Those are such his steps. But anyway, yes.

[Dustin]

Listen, shout out to Clark. I'm still on that.

[Francesca]

You funny I love that you sided with her because you're the only one king.

[Asante]

Look, I'm on Clark's side too. Only because I'm on her side. Only because Alandria need to hang it up. Alandri is my girl.

[Francesca]

She thinks can be true.

[Asante]

Absolutely.

[Dustin]

Look, she does it up.

[Francesca]

And Clark needs to stop being so smug. Cause let another bombshell come in. And that's why you gonna feel crazy.

[Asante]

That's why I'm okay with Clark. Cause I can see Clark is crazy crazy too. When. When the announcer dude was like. And now he said if a awkward questions was a game, Clark would be the final boss. And then she was like, so let me ask you a question. And in my mind I was like, oh, here we go. And I forgot what she asked him. And then the way he started stuttering, I was like, oh, but this is awkward ass question. She is the like. I was so mad that the announcer had it right.

[Dustin]

Then you snapped your finger at the screen.

[Asante]

No, because then she had another question. I was like, Clark is getting in that ass tonight. And I don't like. It was a new side. And I was like, I like the people when they're just themselves. So Clark, she is a little. But yes.

[Dustin]

Clark walked into onto the set. They should have been playing Monster Nikki's verse the thick wig ass Give him with thick wig.

[Francesca]

People have been talking about her wig, but I don't see it. They've been. They've been calling her big wig.

[Dustin]

But I don't north face.

[Francesca]

Oh my God. I just think the.

[Dustin]

Let me look.

[Francesca]

I'm like, is. Is it just my inability to. Because I don't think it's a big wig. I think the part isn't flattering. I think she should have had a different part or like a different hairstyle.

[Dustin]

It looked like they just did. They didn't split the track. I remember that from my aunt having the hair salon. They should split that track to make it thinner.

[Francesca]

It all looks big to me.

[Dustin]

Yeah, see? Oh no.

[Asante]

It was that one that grabbed me.

[Dustin]

Oh my God.

[Asante]

It was that one that grabbed me.

[Francesca]

And I think her hairstylist even came on because, you know, her hairstylist was like, let me save face.

[Dustin]

Yeah. Lucy has some explaining to do. Look at this. See, it's too thick. It's too thick. It's too big.

[Asante]

No ego. And I think.

[Francesca]

I think her hairstylist. But also people be lying. Who knows if it was her hair stylist. I hate that you don't know what to believe nowadays. But I Think she told me her. It was clips. It was clippings. It wasn't even like a wig.

[Asante]

So.

[Dustin]

Okay, so that's what it is. It's them clip the plastic on that clip. So it's making it rise up. And I rise up. That's the plastic on that clip.

[Francesca]

I don't think it looks bad. I just wish she had a different hairstyle for her face because she looks down a lot.

[Dustin]

Like sad or. Oh, you mean direction. No, like, don't you mean she looked like something was wrong?

[Francesca]

You know people that, like, I don't know if it's like nervousness or insecurity, security. But you know people that when they talk to you, they're always like this. She looks down a lot.

[Asante]

So that's why when I said she was laughing earlier, she was like, that's.

[Dustin]

Cuz the wig is heavy. Hey, y'.

[Asante]

All.

[Dustin]

Hey, y'.

[Asante]

All.

[Francesca]

No, why whenever you go on Tik Tok, if you write, if you. She's like only been three days. No, if you type in her name, all you see is Clark Posture. That's all they're talking about. Why is that a thing that pops up on TikTok?

[Dustin]

Oh, why she. Why she look like Renaissance?

[Asante]

Oh my God.

[Dustin]

Oh.

[Asante]

Listen, I like Clark.

[Francesca]

Oh, God.

[Asante]

I like Alandria. I want Allen to stop chasing.

[Francesca]

Friends have been battling for her. They've been like this, like that meme. In Game of Thrones, all the girls.

[Asante]

Got their girls in the villa. I'm.

[Francesca]

I'm living for it with that.

[Dustin]

Because my friends.

[Francesca]

Yeah, my friends better do that too. God forbid I've ever hated one thick ass wig.

[Asante]

Now we have to get to the meat though, friend.

[Francesca]

Which is what?

[Asante]

Shelly and Ace.

[Francesca]

Oh, please.

[Asante]

Okay, so Dustin.

[Dustin]

Yeah, Feel me? I can come up with an opinion.

[Asante]

Okay, so let's talk about. Okay, so friends. Should I give him a short version.

[Francesca]

That you said look like what he say? Nick, Nick at night? What did he call him? Nickelodeon?

[Asante]

I don't.

[Francesca]

On the.

[Asante]

On the live stream.

[Dustin]

Yeah, I remember you showed me his face.

[Asante]

Yeah, he's the short cute one. So because of. From the Aftermath, because of K Some More, Shelly got her, you know, a six eight she brought back to the villa, but she still chose Ace when she came back to the villa. And so now the 68 is with Huda, the girl that's been crashing out every day for the entire season.

[Dustin]

Shoulda hooda coulda.

[Asante]

Shoulda hooda coulda. So Huda and the Casa Amore boys. The six eight, man, they look cute together. They had some chemistry in Casa, but you know who it was trying to not, I guess, push up on him.

[Dustin]

Because he was with Shelly.

[Asante]

And they had already kind of, I guess, had a thing with Ace initially, but not really. I don't know. All I know is, fast forward to this challenge. Shelly and Ace are together as a couple, and Huda and the new boy are together as a couple. But, you know, the challenge is each couple, they're like, giving everybody or whoever they want a lap dance, then they pull a person for, like, a finale or whatever. Right? Huh?

[Dustin]

Pull a person.

[Asante]

Yeah. So. So there was a heart. It's Love Island.

[Francesca]

You know, this is that heart rate challenge thing.

[Asante]

This is the heart rate challenge.

[Francesca]

I get to hump you and then see if I made your heart rate goes.

[Dustin]

We saw that burning zipper back in the day when we was kids. You pumping with your clothes on. We used to call it burning zipper.

[Francesca]

Well, you know what? That's the name of this week's episode.

[Dustin]

People that know are going to be cracking up when they see that, but go ahead.

[Asante]

Well, they was burning a lot of things. Child. Child. So Ace and Shelly, it was their turn. They went first. Well, they went, you know, early in the game, Ace was, you know, kissing around on whoever he wanted to kiss around. Shelly was too.

[Dustin]

So that's what they said.

[Asante]

Now Shelly was kissing around. She kissed on 6, 8, and she got up on him. She was, like, kissing on him. She had her leg up on him, you know, threw that thing on and threw in his face, and she danced on a couple other guys. But then she went back to 6, 8 and danced off up on him. All right, you know, they ain't tripping.

[Francesca]

Hold on. This is a guy that she had told the guy she's locked in with, she was like, I like this other dude. I'm interested in exploring.

[Asante]

They have been transparent. Yes.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

So, yeah, it was you doubling back two times to kiss him. I'm watching.

[Asante]

You look like something now. During the challenges, everyone's like, oh, you know, they're just a challenge. But when you're picking people that you're interested in or building connection with them.

[Francesca]

Change changes the game.

[Asante]

It's, you know, the dynamic make a little different, which is also the point of these challenges, you know, to add.

[Dustin]

To the question before you continue, is there a consequence, though? Because it seems like, okay, I get. I get the element of the consequences. I get the element of, like, coupling. Right? But. But if you break the couple or whatever, is there a consequence for that? Like, what's the point of. Of her, you know, connecting with the other guy. And people get mad is like, can something happen to them because of it or.

[Asante]

No, they just become vulnerable for elimination. You just trying to stand a couple.

[Dustin]

Who eliminates who's in. Who's in charge of the elimination.

[Francesca]

It flips between the islanders themselves sometimes have to eliminate each other or we get to eliminate as viewers. And it kind of just goes back and forth.

[Asante]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francesca]

That's why I said. That's why I said you should download the app and help Clark out. Because tonight, cuz she needed. She's going, she needed it.

[Asante]

Save her.

[Francesca]

But asante, the story with Shelly, you know that short dude that we showed you? She's locked in with him, but she met that big six eight dude, that pro ball that she's also like, damn.

[Dustin]

You know, so just ditch. The other guy.

[Asante]

Well, her and Macaulay Culkin, they had like a saga before K More. Right. So they each were in separate couples. So this is when M. Culkin was with Amaya Papaya.

[Dustin]

Do it again.

[Asante]

He was giving her shade. Well, he didn't want Aayan Papaya.

[Dustin]

He.

[Asante]

He was like out. He was holding out, I guess, trying to play the game and stay in the house a little bit longer before he, you know, decided to explore his connection with Shelly, who he's with now and then Shelley.

[Francesca]

I think that's what it is. You know what I feel it is. That was my dulu, cuz you, I don't know if you heard the convo he was having with the boys, but he's one of those men, in my opinion. And from what I. I heard, he likes a woman to chase.

[Asante]

Oh yeah.

[Francesca]

He likes that feeling of like, you gotta earn me, you know, you gotta fight for me a little bit. It's not gonna be easy for you. So he kept purposely picking other girls to partner with, even though he supposedly has this connection with her. And he'd always like be with her in the villa. But then when it's time to recouple, he's like picking everybody but her, leaving.

[Asante]

Her with that white boy, Austin.

[Francesca]

And it worked because a girl like me, like, okay, but she was like, I'm ready to be you. Are you gonna get in my skin or what? Like, she was just so. It almost made it hotter for her. So clearly he knew what he was doing and who he was doing it with. Because you got to know who you playing with in those types of games. Know your audience. And guess what?

[Asante]

Because he was also saying that. But he was also feeding her action, like chasing her a little bit.

[Francesca]

That's when it came to the villa. He was all about her. But when it came to recoupling, he picked someone else. And he made it clear, I like to be chased. He thinks that that is what makes a woman want you more. This is also a man that very clearly has been cheated on a lot or women have played with him because now he has to create these games to try to mess with women's heads. And to me, you only become that man when you've been fucked over a lot.

[Dustin]

You a stupid hoe. This is the Nicki episode. He a stupid hoe. He a stupid hoe.

[Asante]

Stupid, stupid.

[Francesca]

And he did say that. Because he said it, I think in yesterday's episode. I've been through a lot. I've been through a lot. And as soon as he said that, I knew it. I was like, I smell.

[Asante]

Because the way he started to look after they was having that conversation. Okay, but okay, so that happened in the challenge, right? She kissed on the other that she connected with 68.

[Dustin]

Now 68 with 69. Who was with Fox.

[Asante]

Absolutely. Do not confuse.

[Francesca]

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[Asante]

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[Francesca]

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[Asante]

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[Dustin]

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[Asante]

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[Francesca]

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[Asante]

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[Francesca]

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[Dustin]

I'm supposed to feel sorry for that? I don't.

[Asante]

Oh wow.

[Francesca]

The short ones always get me.

[Dustin]

Yeah, that's right. Because we don't feel sorry for this. Now let me tell you who it is that we talking about this week. It's none other than the person that looks like the person who. That song we don't have to Take Our Clothes Off. You remember that song?

[Francesca]

No.

[Dustin]

To have a Good Time.

[Asante]

Oh, well, sorry. They sampled it.

[Dustin]

Yep. There's a song called we don't have to Take Our Clothes off by Jermaine. Hold on, I'm gonna tell you his name. Jermaine Stewart. And this is what they look like.

[Francesca]

Oh, no, I don't know that.

[Dustin]

That's Jermaine Stewart. We don't have to take our clothes off, okay? From the 80s. I'm holding it steady for our Patreon audience. Also for my fellow co host Fran and the scientist. Now, the person that we don't feel sorry for, who hopefully never takes their clothes off, at least in front of me, is none other than Candace Owens.

[Francesca]

Oh.

[Asante]

Yes.

[Francesca]

You know what?

[Dustin]

Candace Owens, you know what? Okay. That's right.

[Asante]

Please, please, no.

[Dustin]

Now she's. She's been shout out to Patreon because we talking about Candace owns.

[Francesca]

Please stop.

[Asante]

Stop doing it.

[Dustin]

To have a good time. Now what she said was if you don't. Okay, What Candace Owens did was she is currently embroiled, okay, in an international lawsuit. The president of France, okay, and his wife, the first lady of France, Brigitte Macron, are suing the pants off of her. And they're probably Lee jeans, okay? They're suing those off of her or them Dockers. They suing them Dockers off of her ass because she has been peddling a false theory that. Brigitte, Brigitte, excuse me, McCrone was born as male, okay? And it's secretly transgender. A complete lie. Totally false. She literally has birthed children, okay? She.

[Francesca]

And even if it was true, what are we talking about? Even if it was, what's the discussion?

[Dustin]

You know? You know what I mean?

[Francesca]

Like so, huh?

[Dustin]

So she's pushed this. Push this. Been the main. One of the main people, main voices. A bit annoying because she has a horrible speaking voice. She sounds so hollow. Well, it's like, well, why don't we. I. It's hollow. You know what I'm saying? When she speaks and I hate listening to her talk, soulless. But she has been peddling this conspiracy theory non stop and it's gotten so bad. Said that the literal president of France, once again, Emmanuel Macron and his wife, Brigitte Macron, are suing Candace Owens company, okay, for an exorbitant amount of money. I don't think it's been disclosed exactly. She said after the lawsuit was presented, she doubled down on the Fact that hey, I am. I'm. I don't care.

[Francesca]

This.

[Dustin]

She was male and bring it. Basically said bring it on. You know, Know what I'm saying? They said okay and hit the gas on that and move forward with everything. Now her tune is changing.

[Francesca]

I bet it is.

[Dustin]

Which is also not something new for her. Right? And it's not new for her to change her tone because we do know that back in the day when she was in high school or college, she actually sued. She was involved in a civil rights lawsuit. She sued some people for being racist and stuff. So her tune has changed. She's also an actor by trade, but there's all those things. Anyway, so now that they've been moving forward and they showed her ass and her split ends that they not playing with her, you know what I'm saying? She's now getting on the Internet whining, complaining and crying out saying why haven't Donald Trump, the Trump administration and J.D. van said anything and done anything to stop this world leader from attacking our free speech? I thought that we were going to be a place where we held fast to free speech being free, but all they want to do is is create DEI for Israel and all this other. She was saying, right? Basically saying why haven't the president that the fucking president, okay, Even though he's a piece of shit. I'm talking about the office like Nelly said. But she expects the president to intervene on her behalf after she's literally been peddling this conspiracy theory non stop. Doubled down on it after being presented with the lawsuit and now is feeling as if she's entitled to some sor defense from on behalf of the government. Honey, sit and twist, okay? Because ain't nobody coming to help you do nothing at all. It's up in you and it's all your fault. You're. And that's what you get. Candace Owens. Don't expect no sympathy.

[Francesca]

Black ass thinking that they are calling.

[Dustin]

Them white people's business.

[Francesca]

That's what you get to save you. That's what you.

[Dustin]

Why would you think that they had any of that allegiance to you? Okay?

[Francesca]

Meanwhile. Meanwhile, Trump is. Is putting 14 karat gold on the White House.

[Dustin]

He ain't thinking about and paving over the rose guard. Yeah, they'll drop your body right down in that rose garden and pave right over it, girl. They don't give a about you. You'd be somewhere literally pushing up. Well, it wouldn't even be daisies. What would she. Weeds. You'd be somewhere pushing up weeds. You know what I'm saying, and they won't even give a about you. And I don't feel no ways tired about it. Get her in her rant that I'm not gonna play it because I'm not even gon voice on our show. Right.

[Asante]

Thank you.

[Dustin]

But in her rant she was saying how that these, these foreign, this foreign leader was trying to impoverish her and her family. Now her and her husband company is worth over $200 million or some. And that's what she's worried about. She's worried about them taking her money because she knows that she did exactly what they're accusing her of doing and she knows that them Europeans are not about to play with her. Okay? They about to. They about to. She's. They going to fry her.

[Francesca]

And if, and let that be a lesson.

[Dustin]

She's gonna be a French fry. Yeah, let it be a lesson.

[Francesca]

Say anything out here.

[Dustin]

Do you know what? She a shoestring fry if she is one.

[Francesca]

You know what?

[Dustin]

I, I just, I've never been more happy to see someone's demise. I've never been more delighted to see somebody broken down and humble to see a knee bow. I've never been so happy. She had so much to say about Colin Kaepernick. Guess who gonna be on. Okay.

[Francesca]

Wasn't she changing? Am I tripping or weren't. I felt like people were saying like, oh, she's starting to like.

[Dustin]

Well, there's been a lot of people who had aligned themselves with those foolish MAGA ideas and who have been voices for that sort of thinking who are now trying to abandon ship now that the Epstein file controversy has become what it has now that certain other, certain things have been done. The, the Gaza situation turned a lot of people. There's been a lot of, of flip flops walking it back, you know what I'm saying? Attempting to walk it back. The latest thing that they're walking back now that Donald Trump has deployed the national guard onto Washington D.C. they are, they are now all the MAGA people who were voices in that space who were, were saying that he could not have deployed the national guard on January 6th and that's why he didn't do it. They're now literally deleting videos where. Standing on that and, and speaking out about it. They're deleting those videos and acting as if they didn't exist and now saying yes he could because he just did. It's just, it's all a joke. It's all rooted in a lie. It's all Rooted in. And it's all going to implode because it doesn't have fortitude. And that's what. Just simply what it is. And I'm so happy that one of the examples of that implosion is literally Candace Owens life blowing up. How about y'?

[Francesca]

All?

[Dustin]

I can't wait to see it. She already looks like she's been set on fire.

[Asante]

Give us more. She should keep going.

[Dustin]

Fire Marshal Jill.

[Francesca]

And it reminds me of the January 6th people that were not arrested. But then you saw the black ones arrested. It's like, oh, remember, don't forget.

[Asante]

I don't know what you're doing out there.

[Dustin]

But Candace Owens was. And she talked so much shit about George Floyd. Everything that black people have been affected by that was obviously racially motivated. She's refuted.

[Francesca]

She has something to say.

[Dustin]

Always. Always been creating Div. Always wanted to shift the very oppositional. And you could see it to herself. People that look like that. You know how she looks like. There's a. There's a dryness or a lack of always of. Of. I don't even know. But of cholesterol. I. I don't know what it is, but there's a lack of something. People that have that dried out look like that. It's usually from them being not good people. And this is an example of seeing one getting what they deserve. Getting a piece of what they deserve. So I'm here for it. Popcorn popped. Okay. Ticket. Front row tickets purchased. I am here to see the show. Go on. Get her ass.

[Francesca]

President so ugly. And they got the money to do it the right way.

[Dustin]

Okay. God damn it. Okay. We gonna go on, girl. That's what they get. We gonna chomps her. At least say, and I can't wait to watch it. I can't wait to watch her feet underneath that house like the wicked witch that she is. I cannot wait to see her feet sticking out from underneath that French house that they finna drop on her ass. I can't wait to see. I might even wear a beret.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

With the little thing in the middle. You know what I'm saying? I might wear me a beret just to see it. I'm feeling real French. I'm gonna kiss somebo.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Dustin]

I can't wait. Because she hit her with a bag and shove a crumpet up her ass. Because we have. We are.

[Asante]

We are.

[Dustin]

Right? I'm just. I'm so.

[Francesca]

We should name this episode. Hit her with a baguette.

[Dustin]

Hit her with a baguette thank you, Asante.

[Francesca]

Thank you, Asante.

[Dustin]

Because I'm gonna throw the coffee on her ass. I want to burn. You know, it probably wouldn't even burn. It probably just roll, roll right off her hot sizzling evil ass. It probably wouldn't even burn her. But this is what she gets. And let this be a lesson. You can't just say anything about people and make up stuff. You cannot do that. And, and, and the, the, the fact that she's so entitled. The audacity of her to think that she's above reproach and above being addressed like that. Bag it up or butt. Wow.

[Asante]

What? You can name it.

[Dustin]

So that's it. Candace Owens. And I can't wait to watch the French president do it. Yeah, damn.

[Asante]

I agree.

[Dustin]

And I hope the friend, I hope his wife tell her.

[Francesca]

You know what?

[Dustin]

Yes.

[Francesca]

Ain't that the same. Ain't that the same president that his wife was bashing him upside the head on a flight, remember?

[Dustin]

So they already, you know what I'm saying? They already real Zeus next. Work with it. Hell yeah.

[Francesca]

She was pushing him and he had the nerve to say it was AI.

[Asante]

Yes.

[Dustin]

Ty, bleep out what I said. I want the, the president's wife to.

[Asante]

Say to her, please, thank you and bleep it out when he yells it again.

[Dustin]

I hope she tell that as soon, as soon as the lawsuit hits with, with every wire they take from her ass, I hope that that's what the notes say. Oh.

[Asante]

Not the back to back ones.

[Francesca]

Killing me.

[Asante]

You need a swear jar?

[Dustin]

Here's another one. Another by another person. I'm going to back up off of this one and just report it and I'm going to let you guys have it. Azealia Banks understands and supports pedophilia.

[Francesca]

Oh.

[Dustin]

And also feels that homosexuality is, is mental illness and also believes that being transgender is a degree worse than the mental illness of you being homosexual.

[Francesca]

What is happening?

[Dustin]

That's right. So the other day on July 26, 2025, Azalea Banks on her Twitter account, which is at Azaleas Lacewig, she tweeted and I'm just going to read it. I'm just going to read it and let y' all deal with this. Right. This is a trigger warning for people, right?

[Asante]

Yeah, there's a trigger.

[Dustin]

Trigger one.

[Asante]

Yes.

[Dustin]

She says, okay. In Donald Trump's defense, 14 year old girls was really only made a social taboo in the 1990s. My grandmother was born in 1927 and had her first child when she was 12. Teenage pregnancy only became frowned upon with the rise of Jerry Springer. And I can also be honest and I also can be honest about the fact that I was old enough to choose seduce and decide to grown ass men when I was 15. I really don't get why women are fronting like they weren't 40 year olds at 15. Like come on now. I'm honestly not surprised or mad at Trump for getting some 15 year old pussy because those were the times. Good night USA for ever. Now if he was a 10 year old we have a problem. But if the girls were 13 and up, who cares? Move on. These are her words. Okay, there's more. Those are her words on that obviously people, you know forced they that they had problems with that. One person tweeted this post is giving assault victim coping mechanism rationalizing their abuse. Get help with an exclamation point. Azalea replies to that and says, well, being gay and transgender is not actually a natural thing at all. It's a trauma response. Science lied to you and told you you were normal. But being homosexual and on the more extreme end, transgender and in any regard is in fact a trauma response. No one is born gay and no one is born in the wrong body. You guys have mental disorders that science is doing you guys a major disservice by not medicating. Bet you didn't know that.

[Francesca]

Wow. She has the talent of. Of how you always think like, this is the worst thing I've ever heard and she will always one up it somehow. That's a talent at this point.

[Dustin]

Yeah. And the thing about it is with nothing to support it in the way of real talent. Right. She had a couple mixtapes that a lot of gay people liked and encouraged their friends to listen to. I've never seen none of my heterosexual female friends or male friends listen to Azealia Banks music. None of my home girls listen to it. Only time I've heard people listen to it is in the company of gay people who listen to it. I'm just my experience.

[Asante]

Yeah, no, I'm gay people. I agree.

[Francesca]

And wasn't she going to like multiple pride festivals? They're the ones that were at those shows were literally the ones that were keeping her afloat while the rest of the industry shunned her.

[Asante]

Well, the white. Well really not even pride at that point. At that point she was. She's making her bag from the white festivals. Like not even pride. Like not even the gays. Just the white circuits that still will take 2, 1, 2 and not even like her rapping, rapping Records. They just still want the clubby vibe that she gives.

[Dustin]

And those festivals that she. That. That were giving her an opportun opportunity to perform are largely attended by gay people. Gay people have lots of disposable income that they spend on travel and so going to music festivals and smoking weed and doing whatever drugs that people might do and enjoying the show. That's a big part of our culture, you know what I'm saying? So we were supporting her there too. Well, I wouldn't. I never liked the hoe personally, you know what I'm saying? I've been since she was batshit crazy. The music wasn't. That's not talented.

[Francesca]

No. When you would do her voice. That's what I was saying.

[Dustin]

Horrible. She sound like me, you know what I'm saying? Sound like me and look like the wb. I'm so tired of Azealia Banks having.

[Francesca]

Something to fucking say about everything and.

[Dustin]

Everyone and no music to show for it. And then willfully just spewing out the most vile, horrible that shit. She tweeted. That's the most horrible, disgusting shit that a person can possibly say in life. That crosses lines of this. This is not trolling. This is not funny. This is not tongue in cheek. This is. Yeah, this is disgusting, literal, textbook pedophilia. Pedophilia. Okay. She's a nasty, perverted, disgusting chicken. Choking. That's what she is. And. And that vile, disgusting that she tweeted and has not now deleted. And you such a hard time. Yeah, you so tough.

[Francesca]

Interesting.

[Dustin]

And you. You doubling down, still arguing online. But you knew you had to come up off of that, you know what I'm saying? For me, her music sucks. It always did. I never liked her music. Nothing I ever heard by her made me. I used to. I used to stretch myself, father. Stretch my arms. I used to stretch myself to like JFK off that one album. She's uninspired.

[Francesca]

I like 212 uninspired.

[Dustin]

The Mermaid is late and tired and old as nobody cares no more. She always looks dirty and scuzzy like she rolled on the ground there because wherever she was coming from was on fire. She always looks like she stopped, dropped and rolled all the way home. She literally looks like she's musty with arms, foot underarms, full of hair and with lint balls. She's a disgusting, vile human being with chip toenail polish and SC and cuts all over her feet from walking barefoot on the scum of the earth. Rotten. This places with broken glass everywhere in the alleys. That's who she is. She's a take your shoes off in the club type of girl, you know what I'm saying? Spill liquor all over herself and just be sticky and out in public.

[Asante]

No, don't.

[Dustin]

No self worth. Don't care about herself, you know what I'm saying? Hair getting wet and just move around and make up old, sleep in it.

[Asante]

She.

[Dustin]

She's musty. She looks like she's musty. She doesn't eat well but wants to tell you she's got the keys to life. I don't give a how much sea moss she's shoving up her ass and under her arms. You stank and you look like you stink. She's always looked like she's been outside playing. You know how kids look when they finally come in at the end of the day, friend, you having a good time this summer? You know what I'm saying? You know how kids look when they come home from outside? That's how she always looks. And it's not an artsy fartsy vibe. It's just fartsy.

[Francesca]

Yo.

[Dustin]

That's all it is. She's just horrible.

[Asante]

Horrible.

[Dustin]

Don't want people to lose sight of the fact of what she said. Hold her accountable. Stop supporting this hoe. Stop. Stop supporting her. Let her go find community amongst whatever devil worshiping ass she can find. Like let her go over there with them and community and be happy. But get the away from us and stop. Get your ass, your hands, your mouth. Get all that up out of the gays since that's how you feel about us. Heard you loud.

[Francesca]

Don't she have a company called Boy Soap or something that caters?

[Asante]

She like made some.

[Francesca]

Yeah, she literally has a company that caters to the gay community. That's the part that's.

[Dustin]

Because she probably just got one whole piss everything in it. It's probably just one hole of filth up underneath her ass. That's probably why she made Blissy Soap.

[Francesca]

But she'll always have a following because it's similar to Metro Boom and Hulk, right? A lot of people will separate the person that's creating something they enjoy from their personal politics. A lot of people feel that way.

[Dustin]

Because I'm still Metro Booman's music, right?

[Francesca]

And people who find her funny too. That's the thing people find the way she talks. Of course they use. Yeah, they find her funny because she has no boundaries. And that's funny to people. And to some people it's anything and.

[Asante]

To some people it's this sick. It's like this sick laughter too, right? It's like this. This, like, humor for sure. Yeah. It's like, oh. Like, it's so true and people don't want to face it.

[Dustin]

Hahaha.

[Asante]

Or like, oh. Or they. Or. Or some of them might write it off to be something stupid. But for me, personally, I used to love Azealia Banks music. I thought that she had. I thought that there was a clear, like, path for her.

[Francesca]

Absolutely.

[Asante]

She was rapping at a time. She was rapping at a time where, you know, Megan wasn't even rapping at the time. Like, I remember I was paying attention to Azealia Banks. She was a New York girl. She was making, you know, clubby rap music. But she's had like, you know, a Foxy Brown swag at times. But she was doing, you know, real gay. That's why a lot of gays were attracted to her. Like, there was just really cool, like, you know, she was the licorice, she was young rapunzel. She. She had all these really cool names she was coming up with and all these really cool things she was doing. So, like, there was a spot for her now. I paid attention to her then at that point in time, musically, she started to say things at the time that I was like, all right, girl, you're losing me. And not to say, you know, I hate to be. Y' all know how I am. It's like, I don't to want to be like, you know, just get in the booth, but get in the booth. So it's like she wasn't making music that was keeping me attracted to her antics. And even if she. Because I. I don't think that her and music dropping was already spotty enough because it's like she wasn't mainstream. So I guess the music would kind of come out whenever it was hard to follow for me, so I couldn't keep up with her anyway. So if she was saying something salacious ahead of like, a release or whatever, I'm not very familiar. I remember, like, every time I see fear, he. You haven't heard this song? And I'm like, no. I only listened to really a couple of the projects from the. Because I stopped paying attention after a certain point. Because she was only getting those festival looks after a certain point still. Like, she never really broke into that mold of, like, mainstream. Everyone sees her. She's getting remixes and features from people because every time she was about to do something kind of big, she flubbed it somehow. Like, even she was supposed to allegedly work with Beyonce, like, There are these people she was supposed to work with, and that's why I said allegedly supposed to. You just don't know. There are people that maybe she could have or have gotten a stamp from, but she doesn't shut up. So it's like every time someone's about to say or do something with her, it's like, oh, girl, well, you just called me a. In the studio before this release. So, like. And you didn't even clear this sample? Like. And now she's like, oh, well, they saying, I ain't cleared this sample. They always try to keep a black down. And it's like, well, did you not clear the sample? And why didn't you? Were you just going to release it and say you were owed this? Like, what. Like, what was the plan? So it's like when people aren't being smart in their own personal. But they have so much to say about everything else, and they're already not giving me the are. Like, I already look at them sideways. But I reached a point with Ailia, well, a long time ago where I, you know, I killed Kanye off mentally. I killed Azealia Banks off mentally. I don't re. I don't even revisit Kanye's old music. Sometimes I'll hear it in passing and be like, oh, this sounds like a rapper I used to like. But, like, I don't even play Azealia Banks music anyway. Like, I don't care about her. So when she comes out, makes statements like these, I kind of just have to keep putting her to the side because if I. If I retweet something like this or even go tell her, like, you know, you're a dumb bitch for saying this. What the fuck is wrong with you? You. Then people, like, people are going to gravitate towards that, and it's going to give her more steam. So people like that, I just kind of have to, like, slowly.

[Dustin]

Yeah. And all she did was go call everybody that was doing it the other day.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

So you know what I'm saying? So, like, that's what she on, you know what I'm saying? First of all, she looked like the car wash man. You know, the. The thing that they blow up in front of the. Yeah, that's what she looked like all the time anyway. And in some wet stuff, seal clothes. That's what she look like all the time. I cannot stand her. I don't care how many elbow gloves she wear.

[Francesca]

Wow.

[Dustin]

Like, I'm straight on her, my nigga. Like, I'm so straight. And I Have always thought she was trash. I always thought her music was trash.

[Francesca]

I liked her. I liked Azalea. I can't speak too much on her music, but I did think she was talented.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Like, you know someone that you're like, they're different. To me, she was like, interesting. Yeah, I did like the 212 record. But anything beyond that, I can't say that I was like, oh, this is my. I just thought she was cool. And I, like. Asante, said I could see a path for her for sure if she would have just like, kept her head straight on, just put her head down, just worked like, then when it started going.

[Asante]

I mean, but all these different going.

[Francesca]

And it's when I was like, oh, okay.

[Asante]

She'd been like that.

[Francesca]

It was hard to kind of move on from her.

[Asante]

Exactly.

[Francesca]

Me, I speak to myself.

[Dustin]

You know, it's bad when Jocelyn Hernandez got a diss song about your ass, you know? You know, Azalea's got that mixtape that people love. What's it called? Asante Fantasy. Right. Jocelyn got a song and I don't know, maybe I'm reaching, but Jocelyn got a song called Ghetto Fantasy. Fantasy. Ghetto Fantasy. I feel like she talking about Azalea Banks.

[Francesca]

You know what? It's the fact that I really believed him and sat here and wondered how those two.

[Asante]

So that mixtape. I feel like sometime around that time of that mixtape coming out, Iggy Azalea was coming out as well, and she was beefing with her just because they had. You know what I'm saying? So, like, Aelia Banks had always literally, publicly been on some. So that's why I was kind of like in and out with her. I was like, I don't really know how you are as a person, but, like, I see something for some of this music. But the way she. When she. I think when she really lost me. And I feel bad because I was kind of like. Like trying to be, like, empathetic to her. But also I was like, well, what are you doing to get up in these rooms and end up in this. Anyway, when she said that whole thing happened with. I don't remember the people specifically, I think it was like she was at Russell Crowe party and he spit on her or something like that. Something crazy. And I remember being like, well, what is like, story when you're in rooms like that and goes down, like, you're leaving yourself vulnerable to certain things. So I was just like, girl, you getting on the Internet saying that this happened to you, I'm not going to be a person to say you're lying, but you're leaving yourself open to a lot of shit. And especially when you had talked shit before that point. So I remember being like, this girl.

[Dustin]

Is different and it's a real top level thing for me. Right. We don't even have to go deep. You literally tweeted endorsing pedophilia, behavior, insanity, and you were grossly homophobic and even more grossly transphobic. Yeah, that's enough. Yeah, she's like straight up like. Like the shit you said was literally reprehens principle and ain't no excuse in the world for her to say that. I don't give a about nothing. What she did was too damn far.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

And that's it. It's unfortunate. On drugs or take some old and go on your journey.

[Asante]

You know what I'm saying?

[Dustin]

Tip over and pour yourself out. That's how I feel. Because I like, that's too far. That's disgusting. And. And to be a one person. Men talking like that about young girls specifically what the kind of shit is you own.

[Francesca]

Like, come on, that's crazy to say. 10 isn't okay. 13 is okay. What are we talking about?

[Dustin]

Like, that is so. That's so disgusting. That's so disgusting. I can't even begin to convey how. How that's the only word that keeps coming in my head.

[Asante]

I don't even want to be here right now.

[Dustin]

She's a filthy, vile, disgusting human being that looks as dirty as she is. So the carpet matches the drapes. We know that now. Gonna sit your goddamn ass down with them spaces in between your teeth.

[Francesca]

It never gets old.

[Dustin]

Yeah, no, it don't never get old. Right. And this person actually has spaces that I'm. I'm talking Dixie Chicks wide open spaces in between their teeth.

[Francesca]

Okay, I'm triggered.

[Dustin]

And in between their teeth and tongue. So recently there was an interview that went viral. Jewel Santana, rapper Jules Santana, that is. Yeah. He was on the no Funny Show. Right? No Funny Show. That's the name of this show. No Funny. Which actually makes perfect sense because it wasn't nothing funny about what his ass said. He was recently on the no Funny show. And he said, and I quote, kids these days don't need to learn how to read. Yeah, that pregnant pause right there was for.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Dustin]

He said that children don't need to learn how to read. He said, quote, you can listen to a book on YouTube. I believe common sense is better than everything. The clip is about one minute long. We're going to suffer through the entire clip so that we can hear this, and then we gonna break it down like Tevin Campbell said. Nah, but seriously, though, though, we gotta start teaching our kids, though, just, just that, just financial wealth and literacy and all that that early. Because by the time they get to ninth grade, they should be just learning how to start businesses and how to. How to. But they don't really need to learn how to know how to read. I say that, I say that respectfully. I'm not saying that in a way to be literate, because you're not supposed.

[Asante]

To be diabolical reading or, or math. Math. Math.

[Dustin]

Told you.

[Asante]

Math.

[Dustin]

I think you could get a, you could listen to a book on YouTube. You can still obtain the information. You don't have to know how to read. And understanding. I believe common sense is better than everything. I, I, I'm a common sense. I'd rather have zero book smarts and common sense. Be able to read the room, be able to read light, be able to read people. I try to understand people, understand what I'm saying. Like nowadays you can listen to a book. I could I just listen to the 48 laws of power not to listen.

[Asante]

Listen to that too.

[Francesca]

They got, they got apps.

[Dustin]

You could put it in and it'll.

[Asante]

Read it to you. Are you crazy?

[Dustin]

They, they asked Jules, what about reading your contracts? He said, you ain't got to read that. They got apps. You can put it in there and read it to you. Then he says, are you crazy? That's what he responded with. He defended the comment that he made, saying that kids don't know how to read. Then he said that he would rather have zero book smarts but have common sense. Well, guess what, Jules, Even a broken clock is right once a day, and you do have zero book smarts. Congratulations. Your wish is my command. Dumb motherfucker.

[Francesca]

Why not both?

[Dustin]

Why not both? You can't have one without the other. To be honest with you, they actually work in tandem. But you probably don't know what that word means. Here's the thing about it. You have to have shit for brains, okay? In order to, to even attempt to debate and argue that people don't need to know how to read because they need to know how to start businesses in ninth grade. This is a father. He is too.

[Francesca]

You took the words out my mouth. I was gonna say, and this is someone that's raising human beings.

[Dustin]

Yikes. I feel for Kimbella. I feel for Kimbella. I see why she looks crazy. She's wearing her pain. You know what I'M saying. Can you imagine trying to get him to understand what you mean? Can you imagine trying to explain yourself to this dumb motherfucker? Now I'm. I love his music. God knows knows I do's. I loves his music. But I kill him dead if he keeps telling kids they don't need to know how to read. What the is wrong with this loose tooth windy mouth? Kids don't see turf how to read. What is wrong with him? What is wrong with you? I don't know. You can actually do have too much time on your hands. I know Jules. Santana did a bit. I know that was tough. You know And I know that the. That is mental warfare on people. They won. They won the war because he's lost his goddamn mind crazy. Stop talking like Facebook. Stop talking like you know what I'm saying. Stop talking like some shit that somebody told you with their eyebrows up because they didn't even believe what the fuck talking about. Okay? Stop repeating this bullshit that you've heard that somehow some way makes you feel good and comfortable yourself or whatever. But you sound like an idiot because what you're saying is stupid. Vapid is the word. V, A P, I D, empty. Okay? Tumbleweed rolling across the skull on the inside because there's nothing there. You need to learn how to read. You're a rapper who uses words and language for a living. How are you doing what you do? Vibes, chatgpt? You probably. We can't even spell that since you don't know how to read. You confused dumb question marks all around your head.

[Asante]

You can't read the selection.

[Dustin]

How do you know how to find it and search for it? Navigate to use the tools you're referencing you. He's an idiot. And I can't even believe he said and then it was a dumb sitting next to him talking about clap. He right clap. Math.

[Francesca]

No.

[Dustin]

I just don't. Let's just say. That's what it is.

[Francesca]

The wrong time for that. Messaging too.

[Dustin]

He don't know what time it is because he can't read the clock. So he's just living. That motherfucker is just in the moment. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yikes. And he probably had to make them. Oh no, that's license plates. Either way it goes. Okay, the point is. The point is shut the fuck up. If you ain't singing a song, rapping a song, shut the fuck up. You don't need to be talking anyway because it sounds like it hurts.

[Francesca]

I'm stunned. I don't even have a commentary.

[Dustin]

Yeah, he doesn't have a commentary.

[Francesca]

Someone would say this and mean it.

[Dustin]

He should have been in Wicked, the Fiero, the Scarecrow. He could have been in that. That's him. Dumb. Dumb as a box of rocks. Dumb, stupid airhead bimbo. He's a fucking bimbo. You know what he is? You know what Jules Santana is? He's a ditz. That's what Jules Santana is. A fucking ditz. That's what this nigga is. And he needs to shut up and. And watch Sesame street, pbs. He need to go buy a house. You got so much money, rapper nigga, go buy a house in Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Cause that's who the fuck you need to be spending time with. Your idle time need to be spent being taught. You need to be. You know what Jewel Santana need to be a pupil. That's what he needs to be. He needs to be somewhere being a pupil, learning concepts stem. That's what that need. Just dumb talking about. You don't even know esteem. You need that too.

[Asante]

What's coming next, right? I knew she was next.

[Dustin]

I have never. I have just never been like Kenya Moore said the great Kenya Moore on Real Housewives of Atlanta. It's almost hurtful to watch her be so dumb. It is. It's almost hurtful to watch him be so dumb and stupid as a rap music fan. Unreal. So I just want to bring back Beating Rainbow.

[Asante]

Let's talk like that, right?

[Dustin]

Make sure the cable on over there in the Santana household. Because he needs to watch. You know what he need to watch Ms. Rachel. That's what he needs to watch at tab time. Yeah, he needs to watch tab time. Tabitha. Maybe that what we need to do. He needs to sit down with Tabitha Brown and she can help him understand in the simplest of terms and the softest of voices. She can help him to understand how to read and why it's important. Dumb, stupid, dumb, dumb and stupid. Anyway, with that being said and. And definitely not understood by him, which he would he. You know, he would probably. Probably spell stunned STD N D. Damn. That's how he would spell it. He's a. He's dumb. He's dumber. I'm not gonna bring nobody else into this, but it's another person who'll be on the mic that can't read either.

[Francesca]

Anyway, Love is blind.

[Dustin]

It is.

[Asante]

I'm only three episodes in.

[Francesca]

Please welcome. Listen to me in Denver, please, when.

[Asante]

I tell you how deep you caught.

[Francesca]

Up, it would be a disservice to our listeners for you not to opine.

[Asante]

You Watched the whole thing, friend.

[Francesca]

Yes. I'm caught up. I was cleaning the house, put it up and I was. It took me. I didn't even finish cleaning the house. I was so shocked.

[Asante]

This season, Dustin, I'm on episode. I think I just started. Or I'm maybe in the middle of episode three. Episode one had me concerned from the initial package. I'll say that, friend. Like, you know how the package starts off with a show? Like how nice it is?

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Asante]

Did you notice that?

[Francesca]

Mm.

[Asante]

Okay. I'm gonna leave it right there.

[Dustin]

I don't want it.

[Asante]

I want you to watch. There are some interesting things happening there.

[Francesca]

When I turn to a bag of nuts.

[Dustin]

Oh, I can't watch it. I mean, I can't wait to watch it. I saw something about somebody saying something happened when of the guys was trying to, I guess, be intimate with somebody or whatever. And it was.

[Francesca]

He started crying because she wouldn't sleep with him.

[Dustin]

Something. I saw something related to that.

[Asante]

He started crying.

[Dustin]

There's a black guy, I think, named Edmund or something.

[Francesca]

Yeah. He started crying because real quick, you know, when they. They first meet, like, all of them together at an event, so they kind of see each other. It's also kind of messy, right.

[Dustin]

Because you can see this is after they've been coupled, right?

[Francesca]

Yes. Because it's a messy way to be. Like, oh, she's hotter. I should have gone. And. Yeah. So the men were talking and he realized he's the only one that didn't smash. And so he felt the way about that. And.

[Asante]

Oh, my God.

[Francesca]

So when they started talking and he started crying. But I will say this. Something's up with homie. I don't know what it is. I do think Netflix low key is taking advantage of him. There's some kind of. I don't want to diagnose him because I can't. But there's some type of Arrested Development happening.

[Asante]

Absolutely not.

[Dustin]

She says she already know.

[Francesca]

She's going to say, oh, no, no. But. But there's some type of Arrested Development. I'll say that happening. And I've. And there's two things that you feel. Right. Right. You feel is Netflix using his entertainment because they know that he's gonna have these types of reactions. You know what I mean?

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Or is it not that and we're just watching someone and this is just how he acts. I can't call it. But something's up and it is wild. Like, I'm talking about wild.

[Dustin]

So I have to watch this. Okay.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

There's an Asian man. That's embarrassed.

[Asante]

Which is the weirdest thing.

[Dustin]

Embarrassing to be Asian.

[Asante]

That's the embarrassing. You have to watch it.

[Francesca]

Which also. They're cheating. Why? Since when do y' all tell each other your ethnic background?

[Asante]

And the way she was pushing, too. The way she was pushing.

[Francesca]

They're cheating. They're all cheating other dudes. So the Brazilian girl, he was Russian. The other girl was like, yeah, I'm. I'm a blonde white girl. My sister sings in Korea. I'm like, they're sneaking in really quickly ways to let each other know, and then that defeats the purpose. And I. I don't know why the show isn't like.

[Asante]

But you know what? It's low key. Good that it's happening, because that was.

[Dustin]

Looking up the contestants.

[Asante]

It was weird. It was weird.

[Francesca]

When he did that, he yelled, dustin. He didn't want to stay. He. She was like, so where. So where are you from? And he was like, colorado.

[Asante]

You know, I'm just a. I'm just a Colorado bro.

[Francesca]

You know, she kept having to be like, well, just say it. She said that to him literally every day. Just say it. Because he's so. But you know, he's an Asian man that was raised around white people. So he grew up with this inferiority complex, being the only Asian in class. Yeah. And so there's a sense of this is being Asian has gotten in my way as opposed to him. You know what I mean? It's just sad. It's sad to watch. And the Asian woman, too.

[Asante]

Yep.

[Dustin]

Now to find empathy and sympathy as a black American gay man. Struggling right now to find it. Cuz, what the you mean?

[Francesca]

It's a hard.

[Asante]

You got.

[Francesca]

Dude is a hard watch on so many levels.

[Asante]

How many episodes does he make? Cuz I know he ain't getting married.

[Francesca]

Well.

[Asante]

Oh, episode six.

[Francesca]

We'll talk.

[Dustin]

I'm looking. I'm looking through these people.

[Francesca]

Now he's Patrick, the Asian dude.

[Dustin]

Like Anderson, Brendan Guthrie.

[Francesca]

And then there was a Asian woman who was going through the same thing where she was like, I don't date Asian men. I like, you're disqualified automatically if you're Asian. Like, not even an option. She only likes white boys. I'm like, this is so crazy to me.

[Asante]

It was fun. I was like, wow.

[Francesca]

Yeah. You see?

[Dustin]

Let me cuss Patrick's ass out.

[Francesca]

Hold on.

[Dustin]

Let's see. Patrick. What's his name?

[Francesca]

I just can't imagine. Suzuki.

[Dustin]

Patrick Suzuki, construction manager. He's a Scorpio and he's only 31. That's what you should be scared to tell somebody because you definitely look like you. 50. A strong 50.

[Francesca]

He was.

[Dustin]

You know what?

[Francesca]

This is a older demographic. Which I appreciated. Right. Because it was really annoying. Yeah.

[Dustin]

That's a smooth.

[Francesca]

Look at his suit. His suit jacket. Oh no. Oh no.

[Dustin]

Want to go out? Want to go out, Want to go out?

[Francesca]

It was. It was hard in the previous seasons listening to 20 year olds talking about they're looking for the love of their life and they've had a hard time in the dating scene. I like it was cringe and so I appreciate that they went older.

[Asante]

Yep.

[Francesca]

But they are not.

[Asante]

It was just as hard watching Aline grown.

[Dustin]

I love you.

[Francesca]

I was like, girl, that's in this one couple got engaged within I'd say 40 minutes of the first episode.

[Asante]

Look off, rip off, rip. You gonna have to the point that.

[Francesca]

I told you I was cleaning while I was watching. I paused it because I said, oh, I missed I'm a couple episodes. Right.

[Asante]

And then that little five second thing came up before you could pause it.

[Francesca]

Yeah. You know when the bar pops up. And when I saw that I was.

[Asante]

Only next episode in what I went.

[Dustin]

Home, thought she was all married at first sight.

[Francesca]

And they was like, I love you. I love you. And. And I. It's this is.

[Dustin]

Are they still together? What episode?

[Asante]

I don't know if they was doing some speed editing or what.

[Dustin]

Are they still together?

[Francesca]

They do it in batches. So right now we're only up to episode six. The new episodes come out tomorrow.

[Dustin]

Are they still together.

[Francesca]

For now.

[Dustin]

What a whack.

[Francesca]

You know when they show the preview of the next. You look like a serial killer anyway.

[Asante]

Yeah. Because when he came out there with his glasses on his head and they.

[Francesca]

Were making out and she was like, can you close your eyes? It's kind of scary. He was like, I need to. I like seeing. I like seeing you all. She was like seeing what? Like my eyelashes.

[Asante]

What?

[Dustin]

His glasses. What's wrong with his glasses? Is they thick or something?

[Francesca]

No, he was kissing her with his eyes wide the open. And when she opened them she was kind of like taken aback. Like, why are you kissing me like that? Because his eyes.

[Asante]

He was like, you're just so beautiful.

[Francesca]

He said, I like looking at you. She was like, like, like my eyelashes. What do you mean? Because you're right here. The you looking at what you mean.

[Asante]

My word.

[Francesca]

Please watch when I tell you.

[Dustin]

I am mortified.

[Francesca]

Single couple. There was one guy on drugs. There's a. There's a. No, there's a closeted gay asking opinions on gay children and being.

[Asante]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Francesca]

Allegedly.

[Dustin]

Allegedly.

[Asante]

Wait, wait, what?

[Francesca]

Allegedly.

[Dustin]

Let me see if I can pick them up.

[Francesca]

Crazy.

[Asante]

You said so many words for you know what.

[Francesca]

Yes.

[Dustin]

Let me see if I can pick them out.

[Francesca]

Hold on.

[Dustin]

Let me see. I'm just gonna go through the men. Any man that pop up, I'm gonna go through. Let me see.

[Francesca]

Don't say his name. Just put his face on the screen.

[Asante]

I'm asking.

[Dustin]

Okay. Not him. Hold on.

[Francesca]

This is killing me.

[Dustin]

It could be him.

[Francesca]

I bet he got him off rip.

[Asante]

He looked like it. He looks like it.

[Francesca]

You found him already?

[Asante]

Love is Blonde Gay. I'm sorry, I had to go right to it.

[Francesca]

I know you didn't type that in.

[Asante]

Yes, I did.

[Francesca]

And had the nerve to say that. That it's a fad and that we gotta be careful with, like, what our kids are being exposed to.

[Dustin]

I have two. I got two so far.

[Francesca]

Let's see.

[Dustin]

Oh, wait. It could be him too. I wasn't thinking about a black person. Hold on.

[Francesca]

He's not.

[Dustin]

Oh, right. No. What's his name right here? It's this guy. Hold on.

[Francesca]

Dustin is killing me.

[Dustin]

It's. Yep, that's him right there, y'. All.

[Francesca]

It's not.

[Asante]

It's not, actually.

[Dustin]

Oh, that's not him.

[Francesca]

But that guy.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Oh, he looks gay, too. What did they do, go to the gay. What's the gay area in Charlotte? Denver or Denver?

[Francesca]

They're in Denver. And all the Denver People on TikTok were like, this is not a representation of our city. Like, we don't have to post an apology.

[Asante]

Well, I don't know if he.

[Francesca]

Yeah, he did.

[Dustin]

He looks gay. Oh, he looks like. Like gay gay.

[Asante]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Like being sex shocked.

[Francesca]

I told you. That's where. When I was sitting there watching it, I was like, this is interesting. And. And here's the irony. The girl that he is coupled with said that if she ends up with a gay child, which is the question he asked, like, how would you feel about it? She was like, well, it sound like I'd be, yay. Mind you, she has a gay husband now. Like, crazy how life.

[Asante]

Typical.

[Dustin]

This tracks. And this is something that you hear people say all the time is be the ones that are barking the loudest that are saying secretly gay. It's this. Is this trash.

[Francesca]

And he even mentioned a story that when he was young, his mom asked him if he was gay. He volunteered that story.

[Asante]

Oh, God.

[Francesca]

I'm telling you. And this is just. Yeah, and he kept bringing it up. He was. Kept bringing up religion. He kept. You know, there was just things that I was like, oh, this is. This is interesting right here. I'm telling you, please watch it so we can discuss it.

[Dustin]

Go ahead with your lavender marriage.

[Francesca]

Y.

[Dustin]

Oh, my God.

[Asante]

That is a great talking about.

[Francesca]

I wouldn't say yay, right?

[Dustin]

Well, your husband is gay now, so what you going to do?

[Francesca]

Thinks it's a fad. And she would ask her child, are you sure? Do you know what you're getting yourself into? Do you know what you're signing up for? Those are her.

[Dustin]

Speaking of three letter words that start out with fa.

[Asante]

Hey.

[Francesca]

On that note, please watch.

[Dustin]

Look at your husband, look at your neighbor and say the is you all. And how desperate can you be to be on a show called Love is Blind where you willing to marry somebody without even seeing them and you got hate hateful feelings and views about the way people loving each other.

[Asante]

Right?

[Dustin]

That's what I mean. You gotta laugh. You gotta laugh at it. It'd be the most desperate loser ass that have them hateful, homophobic feelings. You, you. You down so bad that you want to show where you so desperate that you gonna marry, marry legally marry a person that you ain't never even seen in your life, but you got a problem with Some gay people love each other.

[Asante]

I can't believe I have feelings for a lava lamp right now.

[Dustin]

Yeah, I can. Because you're crazy.

[Asante]

You should see somebody about that.

[Dustin]

And that's why you're homophobic, because you're crazy. And so that can't. I'm definitely watching. I'm definitely watching now. And I'll get back with y' all next. I'm gonna watch this week. I'll get back with y'. All.

[Francesca]

Please do that. The good thing is the new batch of episodes will be out tomorrow.

[Dustin]

Yeah, baby. I'm gonna have it all ready for you. How many come out tomorrow? Three more.

[Francesca]

I think it's like three.

[Dustin]

I'll make it to nine. The number is nine tomorrow, next week. And on that note, that's it for that note.

[Francesca]

On that note.

[Dustin]

You shouldn't have told me that I'm fired up. You shouldn't have told me that you fired up.

[Francesca]

For Jesus. We love you guys so much.

[Asante]

Stay black and protect your magic.

[Francesca]

Thanks for hanging out with us yet another week. We love you. We don't take it for granted. And we will see you guys next week. Love y'.

[Asante]

All. Bye. Bye.

[Francesca]

Bye.