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The Goat's Gravy
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Welcome to the Goat’s Gravy, the ultimate podcast tailored for young professionals navigating the dynamic world of sales and sales leadership. We are here to serve up a blend of mentorship and advice. In each episode, we dive deep into conversations with accomplished leaders and rising stars in the sales industry. Together, we explore their triumphs, challenges, and invaluable experiences. Our goal? To distill their insights into practical lessons that can seamlessly integrate into your own career journey. So whether you’re a seasoned sales expert or just starting out, join us as we ladle out!
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The Sales Trap That Ends Careers | Chuck Strahlendorff, ServiceNow
2w ago00:44:12Tap to summarizeChuck Strahlendorff chased one decision-maker at UnitedHealth for two years. Roughly a hundred emails. At least fifty calls. Bagels dropped off for the man's staff. Not one reply. Then his phone rang with a 317 area code, and it became the largest deal of his career.Scott and Billy sit down with Chuck, who leads healthcare sales at ServiceNow after 30 years in tech, for a conversation about the human element of doing business and why most reps quit three touches too early.Inside this episode:The trap that ends sales careers: giving up way too soonDay one at a struggling software company, and the question that blindsided him ("what programs can we put in place so we can make payroll next quarter?")The weekly point-of-view email that builds an outbound brand, and the CIO who called it a newsletterWhy he still shows up unannounced with handwritten notes in the age of AIDo the grunt work: getting water, taking notes, being the last one to turn out the lightsShould you stay in one industry or try several? His answer changed his whole careerWhat he tells his own kids about fighting for a job when everyone has a perfect AI-written resume
Transcribe →Why You're Not Getting Promoted in Sales (It's Not Your Numbers)
Jul 1300:43:26Tap to summarizeFran Garton walked into Salesforce as a director with 20 years of experience. Reps 10 years his junior put him in his place within months. What he did next is why he's now a leader at ServiceNow.Scott and Billy sit down with Fran, who runs early-in-career sales at ServiceNow, for a masterclass on the skills that actually move a sales career: coachability, feedback, and knowing the difference between being busy and being effective.Inside this episode:- The 3 signs you're not coachable: defensiveness, excuse-making, and resistance to feedback- Activity vs. results: why calls with a purpose beat volume every time- How AI shortens deal cycles (and where "Claude fatigue" is setting in)- The press release prospecting move that got a CEO to the table- Why forced mentorship fails, and how curiosity finds you the right mentor- Fran's advice for new SDRs and BDRs: align with where the company is going, make your mark, then listen30 years in tech sales, zero ego. This one is required listening if you're in your first 5 years.Subscribe for more sales career strategy from The Goat's Gravy.CHAPTERS00:00 Intro and welcome01:07 Fran's 30-year path: AT&T to Salesforce to ServiceNow04:44 The moment he knew he made the right move08:13 Getting humbled: when your playbook stops working11:27 The 3 traits of coachable people14:33 Leading through constant change16:58 Activity vs. results: busy is not effective19:54 Creative prospecting: the fake press release that worked22:30 AI in sales: tool, not solution26:12 Conferences, networking, and showing up28:19 Why forced mentorship fails34:24 The advice Fran still uses today41:11 Advice for your first 5 years in sales#techsales #salescareer #careeradvice #salespodcast #sdr
Transcribe →Why 92% of Salespeople Lose the Deal (And How to Win It)
Jul 400:15:09Tap to summarizeNearly half of all salespeople never follow up after the first conversation — and it's quietly killing their deals.In this episode of The Goat's Gravy, Scott and Billy break down the most underrated skill in sales: follow-up. They get into why speed wins, the process that keeps opportunities from slipping through the cracks, and a real story about a follow-up mistake that almost cost a major client — plus how they fixed it for good.Whether you're closing deals, mentoring someone, or building your network, follow-up is a muscle. This one will change how you work.What you'll learn in this episode:Why 48% of reps never follow up — and how to not be one of themHow speed wins deals (50% of buyers go with whoever responds first)The "3 pillars of sales": preparation, execution, and follow-upWhy 80% of sales take 5+ follow-ups (but 92% of reps quit after 4)Building a repeatable follow-up process using AI and simple systemsOmni-channel follow-up: email cadence, texting, and the power of a handwritten noteWhy follow-up matters beyond sales — in mentorship, networking, and lifeChapters:00:00 – Intro: Why follow-up matters01:00 – The 3 pillars of sales02:20 – A follow-up mistake (and the lesson learned)04:30 – Speed wins: how buyers really choose06:00 – Building a follow-up process that sticks09:30 – Using AI to stay consistent11:50 – Old-school tactics: the handwritten note13:30 – Omni-channel: email, text, and timing14:15 – Final takeawaysEnjoyed the episode? Like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss a drop. Share it with someone who needs to hear it. 🐐🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere you get your podcasts.#GoatsGravy #Sales #FollowUp #SalesTips #B2BSales #SalesPodcast #Prospecting #ClosingDeals
Transcribe →Forbes Entrepreneur Built the App That's Replacing Your Sales Coach
Jun 1800:45:29Tap to summarizeThe conversation delves into Demetri Morris's journey to entrepreneurship, his early exposure to entrepreneurship, the start of Go Forth Productions, his passion for impactful work, the tipping point in his career, mentorship and influence, challenges and learnings in sales, and partnerships and project coordination. The conversation covers the journey of leveraging lower cost talent, transitioning to app creation, the development of Incipia and performance management software, the impact of AI on software development, the introduction of the Quota app, the role of AI in sales and communication, the overview of the Quota app, differentiation and vision for Quota, the concept of a safe space for skill development, and parting words and advice for early career professionals.TakeawaysEarly exposure to entrepreneurship shapes one's career path.Mentorship and influence play a crucial role in personal and professional development. Leveraging lower cost talent for business operationsThe importance of embracing new belief systems and reinventing oneself for successChapters00:00 The Journey to Entrepreneurship13:45 Mentorship and Influence20:37 Challenges and Learnings in Sales26:23 Incipia and Performance Management Software34:04 Quota App Overview41:18 Safe Space for Skill Development
Transcribe →This One Sales Principle Closes 80% of Deals (And Most Reps Ignore It)
May 2700:15:09Tap to summarizeMost sales slip through the cracks because of one thing: poor follow-up. In this eye-opening episode, Scotty shares how a simple, consistent follow-up process can transform your sales game — and why 48% of reps never follow up at all. Discover how the data proves speed and persistence win deals—whether it's responding within 24 hours or making five+ follow-ups that close 80% of sales. Scotty reveals the powerful process behind top performers, including using AI tools and old-school tactics like handwritten notes, to stay relevant and build trust. You'll learn concrete strategies: setting aside dedicated follow-up time, leveraging technology like Claude for reminders, and mastering omni-channel outreach with email, texts, and even snail mail. We break down the importance of follow-up not just in sales, but in mentorship, personal growth, and maintaining relationships that matter. Ignore the follow-up process at your peril—those who persist are the ones who ultimately win. Whether you're a sales professional, leader, or someone looking to strengthen personal relationships, this episode offers the proven tactics and mindset to stay in the game longer, close more deals, and build meaningful connections. Perfect for anyone tired of leaving money on the table or struggling to turn initial conversations into long-term relationships. Tune in and learn how to turn follow-up from a chore into your secret weapon.
Transcribe →How a College Student Leveraged AI to Launch a Successful Startup
Apr 1400:44:45Tap to summarizeJoin us as we dive into the inspiring journey of Paul Knox, a college student who transformed his sales career into a thriving AI startup. Discover how Paul leveraged cutting-edge AI technology to revolutionize sales processes and launch Prospect Engine. In this episode, we explore the challenges and triumphs of building a business from the ground up, the power of personalization in sales, and the critical role of understanding your "why." Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or a sales professional, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of AI in business.
Transcribe →Why Top Sales Reps Are Treating AI Like a Personal Assistant (And You Should Too)
Mar 3100:39:09Tap to summarizeMost salespeople are using AI as a glorified Google—asking questions and hoping for insights. But what if you could turn AI into your most powerful sales partner? Aidan Lee, a rising star in AI-driven sales innovation, shares a game-changing approach he developed at just 23, transforming how sales teams connect with customers and crush quotas.Discover how curiosity fuels breakthrough sales strategies—Aidan breaks down how asking better questions, prompt engineering, and leveraging AI tools like ChatGPT and Gemini can cut your time on mundane tasks by up to 80%. You'll learn how to turn AI into an intentional partner, not just a quick-answer machine, and why mastering prompt engineering is as vital as asking good questions in sales.This episode dives into specific tactics: from summarizing client notes effortlessly to using quotes for sharper insights, plus how to build momentum through relentless curiosity and continuous feedback. Aidan emphasizes that AI isn't just a tool for activity—it's the key to getting closer to your customers, creating real relationships, and staying ahead in a rapidly evolving sales landscape.Why does neglecting AI adoption threaten your career? Because those who don’t embrace it will be left behind, while curious, proactive reps can scale faster, sell smarter, and unlock new levels of success. This episode is perfect for sales leaders, sales reps, or entrepreneurs eager to harness AI’s full potential and future-proof their careers.Aidan is an AI thought leader at ServiceNow, known for his innovative models that turn sales reps into AI-powered closers. His story isn’t just about technology—it's about mindset, hustle, and the relentless pursuit of progress. Tune in to learn how curiosity, feedback, and bold experimentation can turn you into the next sales superstar.Whether you’re hesitant about AI or already using it, this episode offers actionable insights that will elevate your game. Embrace the agentic era—your next victory depends on it.
Transcribe →Competitive Spirit: Transforming Passion into Sales Success
Mar 1700:52:41Tap to summarizeBilly and Scott sit down with a rising star who’s redefining success in the sales industry. Through her journey from journalism to sales leadership, she has mastered the art of networking and strategic career shifts. Beyond just career transitions, she shares how young professionals can leverage their competitive spirit, adaptability, and networking skills to excel in their careers.Follow us on social media!Instagram: @thegoatsgravyTikTok: @thegoatsgravyFor more resources and episodes, visit: http://thegoatsgravy.com
Transcribe →How Utilizing AI Automatically Boosts Your Career | The Goat's Gravy
Mar 300:51:45Tap to summarizeBilly and Scott sit down with another G.O.A.T. who’s on the cutting edge of technology. Through his decorated career he's learned out how to utilize technology to skyrocket his career. Beyond just technology, Brady shares how young entrepreneurs can utilize mentors, networking and other methods to get a head start in their careers.Follow us on social media!Instagram: @thegoatsgravyTikTok: @thegoatsgravyFor more resources and episodes, visit: http://thegoatsgravy.com
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Daily Habits of Gratitude: How Routine Shapes Success | The Goat's Gravy
Sep 2700:52:41Tap to summarizeBilly, Scott, and Demetri sit down with another G.O.A.T. who’s proving that hustle pays off. As an intern, he’s putting in the work, building connections, and following a clear plan for his future in sales. With discipline, drive, and vision, he’s setting the stage to become a true leader.Follow us on social media!Instagram: @thegoatsgravyTikTok: @thegoatsgravyFor more resources and episodes, visit: thegoatsgravy.com
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