This week we sat down with Paul Hawken, a renowned American environmentalist, entrepreneur, and author who has dedicated his life to addressing ecological and social challenges. Paul is the founder of pioneering initiatives such as Project Drawdown and Project Regeneration, and has written influential books including The Ecology of Commerce, Blessed Unrest, Drawdown, and Regeneration. His work focuses on rethinking how humans live and thrive within the natural world, offering hopeful and practical pathways toward a more regenerative future.

Together, we explore the deeper roots of the climate crisis, looking beyond carbon to the cultural, social, and ecological systems that shape our relationship with nature. Paul shares his vision of regeneration — not just as a set of environmental practices, but as a fundamental shift in worldview that embraces interconnectedness, justice, and reciprocity. We discuss how changing the stories we tell about nature can transform the way we live, the importance of seeing the Earth as a living community rather than a resource, and why regeneration offers a more life-affirming framework than simply reducing harm.

This episode is a powerful reminder that addressing the climate emergency is not only about technical solutions but also about changing how we see ourselves in relation to the planet. Paul offers both hope and clarity, showing how every person has a role to play in creating a more regenerative, resilient, and beautiful future.

Lots of love,

Dave and Steve x

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