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The United States Agency for International Development, that's usaid, has been under a massive audit by Elon Musk and a team that was chosen to go in there and give clearance to look at the books, if you will and just give people an idea of this organization. Because there's a lot of questions about what supposed to be international development. Well, in 2014 you have democracy now and they published now this is normally a left leaning primarily media organization. They published this headline is USAID the new CIA. And this is kind of the consensus. This is a cover for the CIA operations. It says agency secretly built Cuban Twitter program to fuel anti Castro protests. So that's regime change. And there's a lot of people out there saying what USAID does is dual use. So they'll go in and try to help, but they'll also do something for Central Intelligence Agency to gain a foothold for the American interests. Well, Trump has went in there just catch people up to speed here. But Trump suspends U.S. foreign assistance for 90 days pending reviews. So he walked in there and suspended these payment systems for the usaid. Musk moves in there and then you're seeing headlines like this again even out of the Hill, which is more of a left leaning organization. Conservatives are correct. America's foreign aid system is broken. So there's this consensus now of like well maybe this money wasn't going to the. Exactly. All of it was going to the right things. So Marco Rubio is now in charge of this agency. He was installed in there and he went out on an interview and he, he was making some headlines. He says Rubio says no choice but to bring USAID under control. An agency takeover. He says there's rank insubordination within agency. There's a lot of just ignoring for, for records request an audit was just completely out of, out of. No one was going to do that because this agency was somewhat rogue. And we're just now beginning to see kind of the feeder routes that go out where this organization was really had its hands into. And we can go for hours on this conversation about some of the ridiculous things it was funding. But let's stick with, let's stick with the focus of our audience. So Gavi, that's Bill Gates, Bill Melinda Gates started Gavi. This is the Vaccine Alliance, Global Vaccine Alliance. And we look into the books here for the US Aid payment system. And you can see just from this screenshot here, Gavi, there's now this is over several years but $4 billion the USAID was paying to Gavi and You can go down there a little bit. Another $880 million payment. You see the World Health Organization in there, about a little over $700 million payment. So there's a lot of, a lot of money going to really Bill Gates, the World Health Organization. And it's interesting because as soon as Trump suspended the payment system for this 90 day review and Musk moved in, you saw Bill Gates do a media tour and it sounded like this.
Bill Gates
So I'm a little worried, particularly with this USAID stuff. My foundation partners with USAID on nutrition and getting vaccines out. You know, there's incredible people, you know, they're not actually worms that work there. Yeah. So, you know, hopefully we'll get some of that work back in shape. In fact, if we don't, you know, you could have literally millions of deaths. I mean, we report on this guy all the time. Jeffrey. I think it's questionable whether he does good. There's law, international lawsuits now against his vaccine programs, accusations of things like sterilization programs going on. There's real questions on whether his polio vaccine program is causing polio. I spoke with Robert Redfield, that has some concerns on that. So, you know, but all things being equal, I think one of the conversations that came up is we all heard when Bill Gates went and met with President Trump at Mar a Lago. Everyone's like, oh my God, they're buddying up. You know, he's going to start working for Bill Gates again. And there was real concerns, you know, in our audience, in our movement. But I would say, you know, if you're just going to like read the tea leaves here after those meetings, President Trump has pulled funding from who? He's just shut down USAID for a deep review, which you're about to get into, which clearly none of this works in Bill Gates favor. So for those of us that were really questioning what happened in that meeting, well, whatever happened, it does not appear that Bill Gates set his hooks into President Trump and has got him on a leash of any kind. In fact, so far, everything seems to be going against Bill Gates agenda, which is, I think we're just noting that. Is that the permanent structure? I don't know, but that's what we're recognizing right now.
Host or Moderator
And Bill Gates is pretty clear character. He's kind of a one trick pony. Anything that seems to subtly threaten him, you'll see him do a media tour and just go, millions will die. Sorry. And then you'll hit. This headline was made on that same interview. Bill Gates says the odds of Another pandemic in the next four years are 10 to 15%. We're not prepared. So he comes out, people are going to die. Another pandemic, you know, basically do not cut my funding. And we saw that during COVID as well, when the vaccine hesitancy was coming. He was kind of playing the same game there. And so There's Bill Gates, Mr. Mr. Sweater. And we also go into the funding of the Wuhan Lab. This is USAID as well. A lot of people don't know this. This was in the Intercept. They did an investigation. Documents link potential COVID patient zero to US funded research in Wuhan. This is Ben Hu. And we can see that this is the actual. This is from White Coat Waste. They're a nonprofit. They FOIA to get this document. But we can see this funding structure here, $41 million. When you add that up, of USAID to the Wuhan Institute of Virology there and to Ben Hu, who was working in there during that time. And just to give people another memory on this, we have Rand Paul. He was in a hearing. He brought forth Samantha Powers at the time the administrator of USAID and asked her some questions about the gain of function about Equal Health Alliance. Take a Listen.
Bill Gates
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Rand Paul
Powers, did USAID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China? We did not fund gain of function research. That's not the question. The question is, did you fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China, before my time?
Host or Moderator
There was the PREDICT Program, with which.
Rand Paul
You'Re familiar, which ended in China in 2019. This is a $200 million. And the GAO has also identified that some of these grants went directly to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where there is a suspicion that the lab leak began that began the pandemic. Has USAID awarded funds to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences in China? Not to my knowledge, but I'd have to give. I think the answer is, once again, yes. GAO has found that there have been subawards of NIH money as probably as well as USAID money that went to the Academy of Not just Medical Research, military medical research in China. Now, part of the unknowns here is we can't get the records to look at this. So I've been asking for months and months for records. In September of last year, I wrote Ms. Powers, USAID a request asking for records from the Predict program. These are not classified. These are simply records of scientific research. And we want to read the grants to find out what they were doing and whether the research was dangerous or not. The response I got from your agency was USAID will not be providing any documents at this time. They're just unwilling to give documents on scientific grant proposal. We're paying for it. They're asking for $745 million more in money and we get no response.
Bill Gates
This is such a, it's really such an important dialogue happening there. And you know, kudos to Rand Paul by the way. I had a really nice conversation with, with him at the MAHA Ball just two weeks ago. But to have pressed in here and it shows, it's finally coming to fruition. And what he's saying, usaid, I mean, billions of dollars are being put out. They work for the American people first and foremost. And then our representatives get to oversee what you're doing. And you're saying no. You're saying no basically to your CEO and to the people. You don't get to see our work, you don't get to see what we're up to. That's insane that this has been allowed to go on the way that it has.
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And that video should be really a reminder to people saying this is an agency that's on the up and up. We shouldn't be disrupting it. It's going to cause, you know, death around the world. Well, remember how they acted? I mean they were stonewalling in hearings. They would not give the coronavirus conversation. Where that started is and was one of the biggest conversations in the world. And they're not going to even step up on that. Come on. So what's also happening during this, this expose, I guess, of government funds is the public and government is reaching in to see where just government funding is going for the most part. And we go to the media now and this is a headline that was made just recently over the past couple days. Doge cancels political's government funding after $8 million in subscription contracts revealed. So they've had millions and millions of dollars. So this is basically the US Government propping up Politico as an organization, a media organization. And there's a lot of government agencies in there that had these pro subscriptions. One of them famously was 37 people at the FDA totaling $500,000 in these pro subscriptions. So that seems to be some type of laundering operation where the US Government is propping up these, you know, again, these, these kind of dead corporate media outlets that people go, why? No one's listening to them. How are they still, how are they still functioning as a business? This may be one of the reasons, but I want to go back to USAID at this point, because that whole media, government funding, media conversation is going right now.
Bill Gates
Well, I mean, just before we move on, it's kind of important because we've been saying here on the high wire, what you're watching on your paid news is propaganda. What we're now seeing is proof of that evidence that funding is coming from your government into your news agencies. You're under this impression that they're private organizations that aren't controlled. I mean, but then you look and, oh, my God, you know, there seems to be government funding. We already know there's pharma funding, there's corporate funding that is already manipulating this, manipulating the agenda. But more and more, as this is unpacking, it's like, do we have news? Because I think this is key. I've always, I've been saying to people as I walk around, look, in Russia, you know, they have propaganda. They don't have news in North Korea. Propaganda, that's not news. The only difference, I think, between the United States of America and those countries is their citizens know it's not news. They know it's propaganda. Our problem here is that if it's propaganda, but we still think it's news, we are at a severe disadvantage for understanding our place in this country and our place in the world.
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Absolutely. And it's a fact that USAID has propped up media and journalists and independent media around the world. And so you have to wonder, is that a quid pro quo? What's. What are they paying for? What kind of messaging are they getting out? We know it's in Ukraine as well. But, but they Also, in 2021, I want to remind people, foundation for Freedom Online had FOIA requests and received these documents, which was the USAID disinformation primer. So they, in 2021, middle of the pandemic, when everyone was being shut down, they put out a Rosetta Stone on. And this is really. This should be in a time capsule. Cause it's kind of like they're looking at the information space and they're going, oh, there's something's happening here. We need to really change this. And this information primer was basically kind of the blueprint that was sent out and given to all of the organizations. Meta's, Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, Google. And this was the kind of the marching order. So there's a lot of quotes here. I just want to pick out some specific points on this because they're, they're looking at the nature of how people access information. They're finding out. This has changed and we're in the middle of a pandemic and we can't really control it anymore. So it says in this quote, down a little bit. It says because traditional information systems are failing, some opinion leaders are casting doubt on media, which in turn impacts USAID programming and funding choices. So it's, hey, people aren't listening to corporate media anymore.
Bill Gates
Free thinking is getting in our way is what that says. Free thinking is getting in the way of USAID's agenda. We need to insert ourselves.
Host or Moderator
Absolutely. And this couldn't be more clear. So it goes on to say it leads to a loss of information integrity, whatever that is. Online news platforms have disrupted the traditional media landscape, which is supposed to be good. Government officials and journalists are not the sole information gatekeepers anymore. That's a problem for usaid, apparently. It goes on, goes on to say to users these spaces enable them to collaborate and validate their own claims and interpretations of the world that differ from mainstream sources. That's great. With this, individuals contribute their own research to larger discussion, collectively reviewing and validating each other to create a populist expertise that justifies shapes, supports their alternative beliefs. This is crowdsourcing information. This is what social media, this is what X is doing. And we see how successful that's been. Again, USAID does not like that. So then they start going to this next conversation which gets a little darker and they start kind of war gaming. How do we stop this? Well, they said cutting this financial support found in the ad tech space would obstruct disinformation actors from spreading messaging online efforts be made for their advertisers. Basically say, look, this is going to be a threat to your brand safety. You shouldn't do this. And it goes at the bottom aim to redirecting funding to higher quality news domains. So you can see just straight up right there, they're going after how these, these people are being funded, which a lot of people have talked about that. I mean, Alex Jones is one of the first examples how people just cut their advertisers left, cut their funding, they intimidated their advertisers. But then it goes to this, and this is one of the most creepiest. It says pre bunking. So they have all these ideas of how to really disrupt the information space that's forming. Pre bunking as a measure to counter disinformation and make debunking more impactful, Donovan recommends pre bunking what she defines as an offensive strategy that refers to anticipating what disinformation is likely to be repeated by politicians, pundits and provocateurs during key events and having already prepared a response based on past fact checks. So I want to, I want to move on to a next section here and that's RFK junior's hearings with that pre bunking in mind. So we know these hearings are coming up and it was interesting is I started to see, as these hearings were the days ahead of these hearings, I started to see the New York Times specifically, but other outlets as well, they're starting to do pre bunking stories. They start writing stories that kind of had no, no relevance of what they've ever been reporting on. Maybe once or twice they reported on it. All of a sudden these headlines come up and you go, well this isn't breaking news. We've been talking about, been fighting to get this information out for 10 years. Here's one of them. New York Times headline, yes, some vaccines contain aluminum. That's a good thing. Where did that come from? What are you talking about? Well, specifically, that's right before the hearings and this has been a big issue because as a lot of people watching this show, there's no really good studies out there that show that injecting aluminum through a vaccine is healthy, is safe. And actually I can sued the cdc, sued the NIH and said show us the studies that allow these aluminum adjuvants to be in vaccines. They were unable to provide a single study to support that, to support the safety of injecting aluminum adjuvants despite widespread use in the childhood vaccines. And then we have another problem. So there's aluminum adjuvants in these vaccines, but there's different levels. So there was a study by Chris Exley, one of the world's largest experts, biggest experts on aluminum. And he looked at that study and he found that there was the vaccines were containing widely different amounts of aluminum. He said, we found only three vaccines contain the amount of aluminum indicated by the manufacturer. Six vaccines contain a statistically significant greater quantity while four vaccines contain a statistically significant lower quality. So it's all over the board. So again, I can ask the fda, by the way, can you confirm the level of aluminum adjuvants in these vaccines injected in babies? Because there's quite a few of them. Do you have a monitoring system? What's going on here? They've never replied to us. And so this is. So when the New York Times just pops up a headline like this, they're going to get slapped down. And what's interesting just on this little side conversation, we're Having the aluminum adjuvant. Until they find something new, they have to defend this, this ingredient in the.
Bill Gates
Vaccines, which, by the way, on all of our research, all of our investigations, icann, that you have funded out there, those of you that support icann, we can't find a single study of a human being, a human study looking at the safety of injecting aluminum. I've seen Bret Weinstein's out there talking about a rabbit study. He found we've referred a lot to a rat study. Oral studies, not injected studies. I mean, this science is really lacking, especially when we think about day one old babies, hepatitis B, 250 micrograms of aluminum, which appears to be 10 times the amount ever approved in an oral rat study. So this is. It's a problem. It's a problem. And when you don't even know how much is in the product, it could be more, could be less, and you don't know what its safety profile is. These are the types of things that those of us with blood still moving through our brain cells want answers to.
Host or Moderator
And the industry wants to move away from aluminum. And we know that because there's studies going on to find other adjuvants. Remember adjuvants, they create an inflammatory response to kind of wake up. The immune system wakes when these vaccines go into arms. And so here's MIT scientists are using a new type of nanoparticle to make vaccines more powerful, it says. In a study of mice, the researchers showed that this MOF that stands for metal organic framework, could successfully encapsulate and deliver part of a SARS CoV2 spike protein while also acting as an adjuvant once the MOF is broken down inside cells. So think about this. Remember the lipid nanoparticles that were in the COVID shots were going all over the body, the brain, the heart, liver, kidney, ovaries. Think about this. If all those lipid nanoparticles, which were supposed to be inert, now that they're saying we know every one of Those, encapsulating the SARS CoV2 will create an inflammatory response wherever it goes in the body, I don't see how this can end well. And I guess God help us if that's the future of vaccine technology.
Bill Gates
Are they like. I mean, in my mind, it's like they're building a metal cage now inside the liquid. So now it's not just a liquid nanoparticle. It's got, like a little cage around it that they hope dissolves. I mean, you already have. You've already made this spike protein. And these, you know, mRNA's last longer. You're protecting them from the immune system now. Let's put an aluminum or metal cage around it. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I know I'm sure the scientists know exactly what they're doing and we should just stop asking all questions. And certainly there should be no need for safety tests. Just go right ahead. Let's call it safe. Let's get move on, Move on.
Host or Moderator
Of course. So off on a little tangent there. Let's go back to the media kind of response to RFK Jr. S hearings. So as soon as the hearings were over, we have our friend Lena Wen. Remember she was the carrot in the stick person during COVID She told us that freedoms were at the end of a syringe if you wanted them back. And then she said, I'm sorry, I was wrong. Well, it looks like she's jumping in again. This is Washington Post opinion. RFK Jr. S confirmation hearings were even worse than expected. So here we have more gaslighting. People that watched the hearings probably didn't come away with that, but she wants you to believe that. And then you have other headlines coming around here. RFK Artificial Dye risks impact on Food giants. So we're getting some kind of fear headlines there. And then another one. Vaccine Stocks fall as Senate panel advances RFK Jr. S nomination for HHS Secretary. So we're probably gonna see a lot more of that in the coming weeks. So I want people to be aware. That's media literacy. When you see the media all of a sudden narrow in on these fear based kind of not real conversations to try to shape the hearts and minds of people for major events that are happening.
Bill Gates
Yeah, I was really interesting. I came out of the, you know, of the hearing and you know, you got approached by, I don't know, five to ten different news organizations as you're trying to walk down the hallway. And I have to say, you get this impression that they're all out to just try to make you say something stupid because they are on attack. I mean, it's odd, isn't it, that there doesn't seem to be anyone in support of getting chemicals out of food. There's no one into deeper scientific research and transparency. None of these news organizations seem to care about the corruption in the regulatory agencies, which you feel like they should. It's just, I'm talking to them, just thinking, who do you work for? Like, how did we get to this point? I thought, like, is it your job to be like, at least, hey, you know, what do you think if we get a guy in there that's going to challenge all these things? Anyway, we're used to it. But it is a surreal world that I think is actually is shifting. I think it's clear that the movement of the people. And you got to ask yourself, are these mainstream news organizations, are they just going to become like the leaders of the minority, the propaganda for the minority, as the majority of America starts to wake up and say, hey, I like the transparency. I like that you're looking at usaid. I like that you're looking at an HHS secretary that's going to go wild on chemical companies. You know, how long will they remain, you know, irrelevant? And hold on. And especially if they're not getting USAID money, where's that going to go?
Host or Moderator
Exactly.
Podcast Summary: DOGE AUDIT EXPOSES USAID
Podcast Information:
In this episode of The Highwire with Del Bigtree, host Del Bigtree delves into the intricate and controversial audit of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). The discussion uncovers allegations of USAID's dual roles, potential ties with the CIA, significant funding to influential organizations like Gavi and the World Health Organization, and the broader implications on media and public health policies.
The episode begins with an exploration of a comprehensive audit conducted by Elon Musk and his selected team aimed at scrutinizing USAID's financial and operational practices.
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"The United States Agency for International Development, that's USAID, has been under a massive audit by Elon Musk and a team that was chosen to go in there and give clearance to look at the books..." [00:00]
This audit seeks to provide transparency regarding USAID's expenditures and operations, amidst growing skepticism about the agency's true intentions and effectiveness in international development.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around allegations that USAID serves as a cover for CIA operations aimed at regime change in various countries. Referencing a 2014 Democracy Now headline, Del highlights the consensus that USAID functions as the "new CIA."
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"USAID the new CIA... agency secretly built Cuban Twitter program to fuel anti Castro protests." [00:30]
These claims suggest that while USAID ostensibly focuses on development, it may simultaneously advance American strategic interests through covert means.
The conversation shifts to political interventions, notably former President Trump's suspension of USAID funding for 90 days pending a review, which set the stage for Elon Musk's involvement. Subsequently, Marco Rubio's appointment as the head of USAID is discussed, emphasizing his role in attempting to bring the agency under tighter control.
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"Marco Rubio says there's rank insubordination within the agency... These organizations was really had its hands into." [01:45]
Rubio's takeover aims to address internal issues and bring more accountability to USAID's operations.
Del scrutinizes USAID's substantial financial commitments to organizations like Gavi (Global Vaccine Alliance) and the World Health Organization (WHO), highlighting billions of dollars funneled to these entities.
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"Gavi, that's Bill Gates, Bill Melinda Gates started Gavi... USAID was paying to Gavi and... the World Health Organization." [02:00]
The hefty investments raise questions about the influence of philanthropists like Bill Gates on global health initiatives and USAID's priorities.
Bill Gates' involvement is further examined, particularly his media engagements where he expresses concerns over USAID's suspension and defends the necessity of foreign aid in preventing loss of life due to halted programs.
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"If we don't [restore USAID funding], you could have literally millions of deaths." [02:45]
Del critiques Gates' responses as alarmist and manipulative, aiming to safeguard funding sources while downplaying legitimate concerns about USAID's operations.
The podcast delves into USAID's funding of vaccine research, specifically referencing the Wuhan Institute of Virology and controversies surrounding COVID-19 origins and vaccine safety.
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"Some vaccines contain aluminum... no single study to support the safety of injecting aluminum adjuvants..." [16:26]
The discussion highlights potential gaps in regulatory oversight and the lack of transparency regarding vaccine ingredients and their safety profiles.
A critical analysis is presented on USAID's alleged support for media organizations, suggesting a quid pro quo for favorable messaging. The podcast references recent headlines indicating USAID's financial backing of outlets like Politico, raising alarms about media independence and integrity.
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"Funding is coming from your government into your news agencies... Propaganda, that's not news." [09:48]
Del argues that such financial entanglements compromise the objectivity of media outlets, blurring the lines between journalism and propaganda.
The episode transitions to RFK Jr.'s confirmation hearings, illustrating the media's attempts to preemptively counter his viewpoints through "pre-bunking" strategies—preparing narratives to discredit his arguments before they gain traction.
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"RFK Jr. S confirmation hearings were even worse than expected... fear-based conversations to shape the hearts and minds of people." [16:00]
Del criticizes mainstream media for obstructing genuine discourse and reinforcing established narratives to marginalize dissenting voices.
The discussion highlights recent scientific advancements in vaccine technology, such as the use of metal-organic frameworks (MOFs) in vaccine delivery systems, raising health and safety concerns.
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"No single study of a human being looking at the safety of injecting aluminum... you don't know what its safety profile is." [16:26]
Del emphasizes the need for rigorous testing and transparency in vaccine development to ensure public safety and trust.
In conclusion, the podcast underscores the intricate connections between government agencies, philanthropic organizations, and media outlets, questioning the integrity and motivations behind international aid and public health initiatives. Del Bigtree calls for greater transparency, accountability, and media literacy to empower the public in discerning credible information from orchestrated propaganda.
Final Quote:
"If it's propaganda, but we still think it's news, we are at a severe disadvantage for understanding our place in this country and our place in the world." [10:53]
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and viewpoints expressed during the podcast episode. It is intended to inform readers who have not listened to the original content about the main topics and arguments presented.