The new year began with a successful U.S. military operation to capture Venezuela's president. But the mission killed approximately 80 people and is being condemned by some American and international leaders as illegal. Esau McCaulley joins Phil and Skye this week to discuss the fallout from the operation. Was it legal? Was it moral? And what does it reveal about Trump's vision of America? Kaitlyn talks with author Sara Billups about her new book, "Nervous System," and how our age of anxiety is affecting Christians and the whole church. Also this week—the Trump administration celebrated the holidays with Christian memes, festive taunts, and "Ice Ice Baby."

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0:00 - Show Starts

2:52 - Theme Song

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5:23 - Christmas

7:35 - Trump Got Venezuela?

13:46 - What Does America Want to Be?

28:34 - Trump Administration's Christmas

36:10 - Optimism and America

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48:05 - Interview

50:28 - Why Write About Anxiety?

56:14 - Practicing Non-Anxiousness

1:02:40 - Lasting Effects of Fundamentalist Mindsets

1:09:17 - The Church as a Non-Anxious Presence

1:18:09 - End Credits

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Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups: https://amzn.to/3N0A60t

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702: Venezuela, Vanilla Ice, & the Church's Anxious Nerves with Sara Billups