Two members of Congress, one Republican and one Democrat, had a meeting recently where they fundamentally disagreed about the meaning of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25. Their disagreement has now spilled into the media. Why has this chapter of the Bible become the new dividing line between Christians in the public square? Kaityn interviews Tish Harrison Warren about her new book about Christian resilience and what disillusioned believers can learn from the desert mothers and fathers. And fifty years ago, the media declared 1976 the "Year of the Evangelicals." The Holy Post crew discusses one historian's look back at that year and debates whether it was really the turning point for American evangelicalism.

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1:50 - Theme Song

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12:44 - The Turning Point of Evangelicalism

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30:37 - Does Matthew 25 Apply to Nations?

46:20 - Interview

49:42 - Weariness

56:30 - Desert Mothers and Fathers

1:04:00 - What is Acedia?

1:19:13 - Become All Flame

1:29:17 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Growing Divide Over Matthew 25:

https://religionnews.com/2026/07/01/in-congress-a-growing-divide-over-matthew-25/?utm_medium=social

Christianity Today on the Turning Point for Evangelicalism:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/06/1976-was-a-turning-point-for-evangelicalism-george-marsden-history/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/christianity

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What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience by Tish Harrison Warren:

https://a.co/d/0bJc9P34

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