E619 - International Women's Day - Celebrating Women in Podcasting

Summary

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The How To Podcast Series — Episode 619

International Women’s Day — Celebrating Women in Podcasting
Host: Dave Campbell
Release Date: March 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

This special International Women’s Day episode is a heartfelt celebration of women in podcasting. Host Dave Campbell reflects on the ongoing importance of amplifying women’s voices in media and highlights the unique opportunities podcasting offers women worldwide to create, lead, and connect. The episode combines Dave’s reflections, actionable encouragement, and snippets from past female co-hosts and guests—showcasing both the diversity and community spirit among women in podcasting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Importance of International Women’s Day in Podcasting

• Dave aligns the day’s significance–women claiming space and voice in the world–with the ethos of podcasting, where anyone can share their story without permission or gatekeepers.
• “Anyone anywhere can do this, and nobody can tell you if you’re doing it right or wrong. You do what works for you. And that’s the beautiful thing about podcasting.” (01:45)

2. Podcasting as an Empowerment Platform

• Podcasting removes traditional barriers: creators don’t need expensive equipment, radio regulators, or producers to start.
• Encourages women to embrace podcasting as a means to claim agency and reach new audiences on their own terms.
• Quote:
  • “We don’t need a radio tower, we don’t need a producer... We don’t have gatekeepers who can tell you what you can and can’t say.” (03:14)
  • "If you've ever considered starting a podcast and you're like, I don't know if I can do this, that's what this show is all about." (06:10)

3. The Uniqueness and Power of Independent Podcasters

• Emphasis on how independent podcasters form genuine connections, contrasting with big-name hosts who are less accessible.
• The heart of podcasting lies in authenticity and community-building, not just audience numbers or sponsorships.
• “You... have this unique opportunity to take the platform you’re building and turn it into real, genuine connections.” (08:42)

4. Challenges Unique to Women in Podcasting

• Women podcasters and creators face hurdles: limited equipment, discoverability, and balancing podcasting with family or caregiving.
• Like early Women’s Day activists, women podcasters carve out unique spaces for their voices.

5. The Value of Documenting Lived Experience

• Every woman who launches a podcast archives her lived experience and forms a community; often, major change starts with “the smallest shows.”
• Listeners form bonds with hosts through relatability—not celebrity status.
• Quote:
  • “There’s something about you that I feel attracted to... Your story, your message, how you speak, how you laugh, who you talk to, who you bring on as a guest, all of those things. You are my person.” (12:53)
  • “Change doesn’t always start with the biggest platforms. It often starts with the smallest shows, the smallest podcast, with a small, intimate community who show up on a consistent basis.” (13:50)

6. Call to Action: Support Women in Podcasting

• Dave urges listeners to make listening to a new or favorite podcast created by a woman a priority today.
• "Go and press play on a podcast created by a woman on International Women’s Day to celebrate the voices in podcasting, the women in podcasting." (14:46)
• Intention: Raise stats for women’s shows and acknowledge the breadth of women’s contributions in this field.

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Voices from the Community: Clips from Female Podcasters

In tribute, Dave samples memorable moments from recent women who’ve co-hosted or appeared as guests (15:20 onward):

1. Jordan Blair (Dreamful Podcast)

• Quote:
  • “That is probably the nicest intro I’ve ever had... It’s so cool to be able to connect now.” (15:23)
• Jordan’s experience illustrates how podcasting forges real-world connections and admiration.

2. Jodi Krangle (Voiceover Artist & Podcaster)

• Jodi’s dual experience as a podcaster and voiceover artist, and her insight on how creators perceive their own voices.
• Quote:
  • “When you hear yourself recorded, it’s a different experience... Recording is what you actually sound like.” (17:15)

3. Jackie (Organized Podcaster, via PodMatch)

• On discovering and leveraging PodMatch, learning her strengths, and promoting networking for independent voices.
• Quote:
  • “It was eye opening for me... Here’s where I could improve.” (18:55)

4. Hollis (Author, Podcaster)

• Shares the joys of connecting over podcasting and her community in Suwannee, Georgia.
• Memorable moment:
  • Fun banter about becoming a “podcast item” with Dave and the value of frequent collaborations. (20:17)

5. Steph (Pod Savvy Guide)

• Dave’s admiration for Steph’s value-rich podcast and their “HOB nerd” camaraderie.
• Quote:
  • “People talk about this in podcasting all the time... there’s this relationship built over time as you interact with a podcast you love.” (22:30)

6. Deb (The Drop In CEO)

• Deb’s podcast origin story and her mission to build relationships and mentor future leaders.
• Quote:
  • "I do solos, I do guest interviews. It's a beautifully creative medium, and I'm just so happy to share more with you." (24:00)

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Broader Reflections on Women’s Global Challenges

By the Numbers (25:45–26:41)

• Data spotlighting global disparities:

  • Over 676 million women live near conflict zones.
  • Women comprise most health care workers, but only 25% in leadership roles.
  • Working women spend nearly double the time as men on child and housework.
  • 74% of women athletes work extra jobs.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “When we level the playing field, women don’t just succeed. They challenge everything... And as they rise, they bring their communities with them.” (26:25–26:31)
  • “Equality isn’t a dream. It’s a choice.” (26:38)

• International Women's Day Action: Encouragement to sign a pledge at care.org/pledge and actively support equality.

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Closing Inspiration: Overcoming Barriers Together (Bonus Segment, 26:50+)

Dave ends with a personal pep talk for new and aspiring podcasters, especially women:

• Many people hesitate to start podcasts from fear of judgment or inadequacy.

• Starting is like climbing a wall—harder alone, but easier with community support.

• Quote:

  • “There are people who are behind you to help push you up the wall... There are people who have already done the wall who are cheering for you.” (27:48)
  • "Your body doesn’t know the difference between fear and excitement... Turn your fear into excitement and accept the support of others.” (28:35)

• Final encouragement: Don’t podcast alone—join a community, accept help, and let excitement fuel your journey.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Anyone anywhere can do this, and nobody can tell you if you’re doing it right or wrong." – Dave (01:45)
• "We don’t need a radio tower, we don’t need a producer... We don’t have gatekeepers." – Dave (03:14)
• “You have this unique opportunity to take the platform you’re building and turn it into real, genuine connections.” – Dave (08:42)
• “You are my person.” – Dave (12:53)
• "Change doesn't always start with the biggest platforms. It often starts with the smallest shows..." – Dave (13:50)
• “Go and press play on a podcast created by a woman on International Women’s Day.” – Dave (14:46)
• "When you hear yourself recorded, it's a different experience... Recording is what you actually sound like." – Jodi Krangle (17:15)
• “Equality isn’t a dream. It’s a choice.” – Narration (26:38)
• “There are people who are behind you to help push you up the wall... There are people who have already done the wall who are cheering for you.” – Dave (27:48)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00 – 14:46: Dave’s reflections, history of women in podcasting, and call to action
• 15:20 – 26:41: Excerpts from women podcasters—Jordan Blair, Jodi Krangle, Jackie, Hollis, Steph, Deb; Global context on gender equality
• 26:50 – end: Bonus inspiration about overcoming the “wall” and starting a podcast with support

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Final Takeaway

This episode is a rallying call to honor, empower, and grow the space for women in podcasting—not just on International Women's Day, but year-round. Dave urges everyone, podcasters or listeners, to intentionally engage with and support women’s voices, while reminding new creators they don’t have to do it alone: community is the true heart of podcasting.

Happy International Women’s Day—from The How To Podcast Series.

Transcript

[A]

Okay, we're rolling. Hey, welcome back to the how to Podcast series. It's Dave with you. Happy International Women's Day. It's amazing. Yeah. I wanted to do an episode just today to focus on the amazing women in podcasting. The amazing past and future guest co hosts of the How To Podcast series. The women that come on and turn on the mic, jump on and share their world with us as creators in a world of noise, in a world of trying to find our space. That's what International Women's Day is all about, is for women to have the rights to be. The right to be. To be heard, to be seen, to have a say, the right to vote, to write, the right to fair pay and working conditions, and the right to participate in public life, to not be under someone else, to find identity. All of these things and all of those directly transpose over to podcasting in a very similar way. I think that podcasting has various. Various very similar story about overcoming barriers and giving women the. The opportunity to start their own show, create their own community, build. Build relationships, build a name through podcasting. For. For some even build fame and fortune. Like, there's a lot of amazing opportunities in podcasting. And that's what I love about this space, is anyone anywhere can do this, and nobody can tell you if you're doing it right or wrong. You do what works for you. And that's the beautiful thing about podcasting and about International Women's Day. So I want to celebrate the amazing women in podcasting and shine a light on International Women's Day. Glad you're here. International Women's Day is all about creating a space for women and women's voices in systems and situations where their voice was either not promoted, maybe suppressed, or completely excluded altogether. And in technology, as podcasters, we have this beautiful thing about having the ability to create a show. We don't need permission. We don't need a radio tower, we don't need a producer. We don't need to have all of these things that traditional media has. We don't have gatekeepers, even though there are trying to be gatekeepers in podcasting, we don't have gatekeepers who can tell you what you can and can't say and who can and can't have a voice. In podcasting it from day one, it's meant to be a very rebellious groundswell of opportunity for you and I to get in front of an audience and build a community simply with our voice, without even a camera, with no video at all. We could simply create an Audio experience for an audience, if that's what we want to do, and build a world around this. Videos come in. And people have been embracing video to some degree and some people have chosen to stay audio, which is great. Again, no gatekeepers. There's this, this ability to, to build and do without having to earn your position. We all work hard to grow our show. Everybody's on that journey, but we don't have to go to somebody and say, please, sir, can I have a podcast? No, you don't need to do that at all. And, and if you've ever considered starting a podcast and you're like, I don't know if I can do this, that's what this show is all about. This is what's our meetup's all about. It's what we, our community here at how to Podcast. This is what we do, is help people to find their voice, to find the courage to find their voice. And that's the one thing I just want to just kind of focus in on today as we look through and celebrate again, amazing women that have come across this show. And for you as a listener, you as a, I guess, co host, contributor on the show, it's been outstanding to make connections with you. I am in awe of what you do on a regular basis. It's, it's amazing. Even though the money and the attention in podcasting tends to lean more towards the, the big name voices, the Mel Robbins and all those in podcasting, which they do great content, but they, they garner a lot of attention away from the individual podcaster, who is a team of one who has five listeners who shows up on a regular basis and puts their heart out there and shares their story, but connects in a deep, deep way where a listener could click the link in the show notes and have a speak pipe link and leave you as the creator, a voice message. And you respond like you actually respond. You, not your team, not your assistant, not your assistant's assistant. No, no, you as the podcaster respond, you are the one to reach out. You are the one to jump on. The DMs people are astounded when they assume their favorite podcaster is too busy, too big, too, too far from them, too unattainable to reach. Yet they leave these comments in hopes that somehow you'll read them or they'll come across your, your world. But when you as the host reach back out and you're like, hey, thanks, that was great to hear from you. I love it. I'm so, I'd love to meet you Sometime, let's have a virtual coffee. It's like those big shows. Amy Poehler is not going to be sending you any messages like that anytime soon. She's too busy, right? Her show is massive. But you, as a creator, the person who creates for your audience and your community, you have this unique opportunity to take the platform you're building and turn it into real, genuine connections. And I think that's one thing that we can lean into in 2026 on International Women's Day is focusing in on what makes our show unique. Compared to all those big shows with their big networks and their well funded podcasts and productions and money, we as independent podcasters and independent women podcasters, we still face those challenges, like limited equipment and production, resources being discovered in a crowded podcast directory with many, many shows, and balancing podcasting with work, family and caregiving responsibilities. There's still that side of us that men, women, we bring to podcasting that we still need to navigate. I think in many ways, the independent creators are doing something very similar than that the early activists behind International Women's Day did by carving out your own unique space where your voices can be heard. And again, you don't need permission to do this. If I could look into the future of podcasting and specifically for women in podcasting speaking, as a guy who helps podcasters, and I help a lot of women in podcasting, which I find to be like a joy for me, to be a cheerleader in the background, whether it's edit editing or having meetups and coaching and whatever. I just love being the person in the stands with the big sign and the big foam number one on my hand, pointing it up like, you're number one. I love being that for, for the people in my community and for you as a listener. What I see when I look into the future of podcasting is for podcasting to remain truly open and available for all voices, especially independent creators like you and I, and most specifically for women, we need to keep entering the space. We need to keep the space alive and creating and being here as creators. When women launch small podcasts, when you launch your small podcast, you document your lived experience. It's an archive. You create a niche community for people to attach themselves to and go, you're my person. As a listener listening to your show, you, you're my person. There's something about you that I feel attracted to. Your story, your message, how you speak, how you laugh, who you talk to, who you bring on as a guest, all of those things. You are my person. And we need to challenge the dominant narratives in media that are controlled, dictated advertisers are the ones that dictate who gets noticed, who get whose voices gets heard. We have this beautiful thing called podcasting where we don't have to to bend to those types of influences. We have this unique, unique space. And just like again, the early organizers of the International Women's Day, they remind us that change doesn't always start with the biggest platforms. It often starts with the smallest shows, the smallest podcast, with a small, intimate community who show up on a consistent basis and build into people and build up people, not just numbers, who sell connection more than sponsorships. Right. This is what we're focused on. International Women's Day began as a movement for women to claim their space in public conversations. And today, every independent woman who launches a podcast is doing something similar, creating a space where her voice, her story, and her community can be heard. And that's the beautiful thing about this. I'm asking you on International Podcast Day today to go out and seek out a podcast created by a woman. Maybe it's a show you've never listened to, or a show you've always wanted to listen to, or a show you just found. And I want you to go and click play today. It's that. I know that sounds really difficult and earth shattering, Dave, to you want me to press play on an episode? Yes. And I would love for you to make that your first podcast you listen to today. Well, after this one. But go and listen to a a podcast today, whether it's your favorite one or a brand new one you've never listened to. And go and press play. Take a chance. Go press play on a podcast created by a woman on International Women's Day to celebrate the voices in podcasting, the women in podcasting. I would love to see all of the stats on Women's International Day to, to go up just by our interaction as listeners. So I'm asking you to make it a priority today. Sometime during today, you will commit to going and listen to a podcast that maybe you used to listen to, or again, you haven't ever listened to or your favorite show. I think that's one way that we can acknowledge the voices of women in podcasting today is to do so. And that's my ask of you. That's my call to action. That's my pathway to engagement. I like to call it for you to take action today and support women in podcasting on this very special day. So I'm thrilled that you're here listening to this I'm thrilled you're still here. That means a lot to me as a podcaster, but would mean even more to me on this special day is that you, you listen to some other great voices and so I've compiled a few. There's been so many people on this show, it would be a 12 hour episode if I brought in every single voice. So again, to everyone who's ever been on this show as a guest co host, my sincere thanks and appreciation and my. My love for you as a fellow podcaster. You inspire me greatly and I truly think this world is better because of you. But here's a few of the more recent voices on the show, little snippets. And again, my appreciation to everyone for hitting play, listening, supporting and contributing to the show. Happy International Women's Day. Here's a few voices from the past and I would love for you to go listen to that. An episode today. Thank you for committing to do that. I appreciate you. To all the women listeners, past co hosts, future co hosts, and women who create content in the podcasting space, Happy International Women's Day. It's an honor, it's an honor to have you be here and I hope for more and more voices in 2026 creating content specific for women by women. There's a space for you and only you can take up this space. So please, if you've ever thought about starting a show, we have you, we got you and we will support you. Happy International Women's Day. Here's some voices to celebrate. Cheers. Dreamful is the name of the podcast and Jordan Blair is here. I am so thrilled because I get to talk to somebody that I've been admiring for a long time. So, Jordan, welcome to the show. Nice to have you here.

[B]

Wow, thank you so much, Dave. That is probably the nicest intro I've ever had and I thank you so much. It's. It's an honor to finally meet you. You know, you've, you've sent in like email messages, I think, and then, right, like, we actually get to talk now. Like, that's the beauty of podcasting. It's just, it's so cool to be able to connect now.

[A]

Yeah. I think my first introduction to you was through buzzcast listening to you, Alvin and Kevin, and the fun that the three of you have on that show. It's. It is the coolest podcast about podcasting and from a hosting site nonetheless. Like, the three of you just have so much fun on that show.

[B]

It's wild.

[A]

You don't hide it. It's Great.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's. It's absolutely wild because I was a fan of. I was a super fan of buzzcast.

[A]

Like, everybody, welcome back to the how to Podcast series. That's the show. And I have somebody with me that I really admire. She's from where I live. And you? Canada. And this person shows up everywhere in podcasting groups and as guests. She just. She just brings light everywhere she goes, and an amazing voice, and she can help us. So if you are wrestling as a new person on the mic and you're like, I record. And I'm like, I don't know if I like what I hear. We're going to just kind of give you some basic things to consider and some encouragement today. That's kind of the goal, and we'll see where we go. So, Jodi Krangle, welcome to How To Podcast. Nice to have you here.

[B]

Thank you so much for inviting me. I appreciate it. Yeah, happy to help.

[A]

Great. Awesome. Yeah, you do a podcast, but your main thing is voiceover work, and you do commercials and all kinds of stuff. I'm listening to all your samples on your website. You're all over the place. It's really amazing. It's. It's like, that's. That the same Jody? Like, it just sounds like almost like a little bit different version of you when I hear you on some of the ads.

[B]

Well, it totally is. And I think a lot of people who do podcasts wrestle with that a lot too, because when you hear yourself recorded, it's a different experience. Your voice is much more objective than subjective when you hear it in recordings. So that's. Recording is what you actually sound like. What happens when they take my voice after a recording and then process it? Like, that's different. So it really depends on what video they're using, where it's being heard, because it's going to say, sound different on television as opposed to radio as opposed to online. They'll. They'll pro process. Sorry, I'm. I. I work with a lot of American clients, so I. I've trained myself not to. Yeah. So it's processed differently.

[A]

Okay, everybody, welcome back to the how to Podcast series. The place where we talk to podcasters about podcasting. We're meeting today with Jackie, based on our friends over at Pod Match. Hi, Pod Match people. Thank you for this. Jackie's here. She's got a great show. This person is super organized, which I find excellent. I enjoy that a lot. Hear more about Jackie's show, things she's doing to grow her show. And some of the tools that she uses as well. And she's got the coolest background in the world. So, Jackie, welcome to the how to Podcast series as my guest co host. Nice to have you here.

[B]

Great, thanks, Dave.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[B]

I'm glad we got connected on Podmatch. I always love to give shout outs to Podmatch when my guests come on because that's, it's an organic way to grow your show. So I love it. It's wonderful. You know, it's funny, Dave, how I found Podmatch. I didn't even know it existed, but I got an email from Alex and he's like, hey, you have a really great podcast and you want to take this free quiz to see where you're doing well and where you could improve and see what you're podcasting personality is. So I did that. I'm the balanced broadcast broadcaster. Yeah, that's right, balance broadcaster. So it was interesting. That was eye opening. I was like, okay, I'm doing well here. These are places where I'm doing great and here's where I could improve. So it really was eye opening for me. And so I started as a, as a host back in May, and then like we were talking about before we started.

[A]

Welcome back to the how to Podcast series. I love podcasting because I get to meet some of the happiest, nicest people in the world. And when they also have a podcast, that's bonus points. And Hollis is here. We're going to be talking about her journey as an author, a podcaster, so much more. She's been on my other show, the Living Next Chapter podcast, to talk about her journey as an author. She is so much fun to talk to and you're going to love her and her show and everything about her. Hollis, welcome as my guest co host. So glad to have you here.

[B]

Nice to see you again, Dave. We gotta, we gotta do this more often. We're gonna, we're just going to, we're just going to start hanging out all the time and people will be very bothered by us. They'll just. Yeah,

[A]

we'll be a podcast item, the two of us. I like it. This is great. Good stuff. Talk about. First of all, where are you? Like, for people listening and watching, where are you in this big world of ours?

[B]

So I am in the north metro Atlanta area in the state of Georgia, so a little place called Suwannee, which is, it's a really, it's, it's still metro Atlanta. You know, you can just hop on the highway, but it's really nice. I like it a lot. There's. It's a good little. Good little community. Lots of, like, walking trails and Asian markets and nice, good food.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Big, big cafe person. And they have some of the best Korean cafes probably in the nation right here because we have such a high Korean population. So it's great. We get all the stuff. We even have, like, Korean retailers that I went to last night.

[A]

Wow. Good. Everybody, welcome back to the how to Podcast series. Now, I. I work nights and I'm always looking for a partner to keep me busy, like, keep me active. My. My mind engaged. And I listen to a lot of podcasts about podcasting. I have to admit, I have to admit, and when I came across this podcast, I found it to be the most pod savviest of podcasts about podcasting. And a wonderful voice fills my ears at work. And Steph keeps me company at work. And I reached out and said, steph, I would love to have you on the out of Podcast series as my guest co host because you bring so much value to your community. I am part of your community, and I just hope that you would say yes. And she said yes, and she's here. So the voice in my head is now on my screen, and I'm so excited to have Stephen on the podcast. Steph, welcome to the how to Podcast series as my guest co host. I am thrilled to have you here.

[B]

Dave, that's like the best introduction ever. You really know how to make someone feel great. So thank you for that.

[A]

Well, thank you for keeping me company. You are a great companion at work. I know that we are meeting virtually in person today for the first time, but I. People talk about this in podcasting all the time. Stuff that when you connect with a podcaster that you know and love, you.

[B]

You.

[A]

You have a picture of them in your mind. You. You know little things about them, you get to know them, and there's this relationship built over time as you just interact with a podcast you love. So I feel like I've known you for years just by having time with you. So thank you for your show. Pod Savvy Guide is just awesome. And I love the guests you have on. I love the topics you cover, and I feel like you and I are on a similar plane. Like, we're kind of going in the same direction. And to have you on is a thrill for me. So welcome, welcome, welcome.

[B]

Thanks. I mean, we're both HOB nerds, so I'm excited. Like, anytime I can be around someone that wants to nerd out about podcasting. I'm like, absolutely.

[A]

Okay, so we got to start with a plug for those people who haven't come to Pod Savvy yet, which you will. Steph, tell them about the show. A little bit of the origin of the show. Everybody. Welcome back to the how to Podcast series. I get to meet great podcasters from around the world, talk about their podcast journey, have a great conversation around our different approaches to podcasting, and Deb has a great show for you. You got to go check it out and we'll have all the links as well, as always in the notes because you know how we do things. The drop in CEO is here. Everybody dropping in with us. We're going to be chatting about all things podcasting as well. Deb, welcome to the show. Glad to have you here as my guest co host today.

[B]

Okay, Dave, well, thank you so much for having me on the show. And yes, I do look forward to having a conversation back and forth because, hey, I'd love to learn more about what you do in podcasting as well.

[A]

I like it. Okay, let's start. Let's start with your show. Tell everybody about your show, what it's about, who is it for? Give us the background on your podcast.

[B]

Yeah. So thank you so much. So the drop in CEO podcast was actually an accident. It came out of my mouth while I was chasing ghosts. And I was on a podcast once they asked me, what is it that you do, Deb? And I kind of said, well, I'm like the drop in CEO. I will drop into manufacturing businesses. I'll help the C suite leader CEO with their business area. I'm in quality and operational excellence. And yes, we'll fix those issues and transform their business. But along the way, I also help the people with a lasting impact. I'll help them with their leadership skills and what have you. And when you don't need me anymore, you pull me out. And that was kind of the origin story for it. But then I realized that was my brand and I could be of value to not only C suite leaders of today, but also tomorrow to help them understand what it's like to gain that confidence, to be able to have a more influential voice at the table. But I do interview CEOs, presidents, founders of companies because I'm using it to build strategic relationships and in the process, providing value to my audience. So again, I love it. I love it. I do solos, I do guest interviews. It's a beautifully creative medium, and I'm just so happy to share More with you. So until next time, thanks for listening and keep podcasting. Every day, women fight uphill battles, not

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because they lack talent, but. Not because they aren't trying hard enough. The field itself is the challenge.

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Over 676 million women live within 30 miles of war.

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Women deliver most of the world's health

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care, but hold only 25% of leadership. Working women spend nearly twice as much time on childcare and housework as men. 74% of women athletes work extra jobs

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to make ends meet.

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When we level the playing field, women don't just succeed.

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They challenge everything.

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And as they rise, they bring their communities with them. Equality isn't a dream.

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It's a choice.

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Hey, you're still here. Awesome. Okay. This is like a bonus thing we do at the end of the episode. I've been doing this since episode 500 launched, and it's just a little extra for you and me. Most people have gone. Most people won't hear this part, but it's for you. I had. I'm working with a podcaster right now, and they're. Their struggle in starting their show is to find the courage to. To. To get on, to get out there and put their. Themselves out into the world. It's. It's a big thing when you start something new, anything new, but to do something publicly and start it new is. Is a big. It's a big hurdle. It's a big wall to climb over. And a lot of people look at that wall and go, nope, and walk away. But this person is saying, no, I want. I really want this. It's. It's my passion, and I just. It's the overwhelming fear of looking like I don't know what I'm doing or it not being good enough or being judged or judging myself or whatever that is. There's something. There's this. This wall that's in my way. When you watch. When you watch those, like, basic training and stuff, when the military, when they go through that training and they have that wall, right? And as a team, the. The team have to get over the wall. It's not just about the single person always having to get over the wall. There's. They do it in team as well, and when they do the wall in team, everyone has a role, and the team only succeeds and can move forward when everyone gets over the wall. And in podcasting, I think there's too many people try to climb the wall by themselves. I got this. I can do this, and if I can't do it, I'm not going to do it yet. There are people who are behind you to help push you up the wall. There are people already up on the wall who are reaching down to help you. There are people who have already done the wall who are cheering for you. You got this. That kind of stuff happening in the background. And I think that we can conquer this wall if we allow people to help us. Your body doesn't know the difference between fear, excitement. It can't distinguish between the two. It's basically the same reaction, and that's a defensive thing to protect you. But if we could say, instead of, I have to create a podcast, I have to do this new thing which can lead to fear. We turn it around into excitement and say, I get to start a podcast. I get to create something new. I get to have the opportunity to do this thing instead of feeling like I'm being dragged into it against my will. Turn your fear into excitement and accept the support of others. No podcaster, especially somebody new, should be starting out in podcasting alone. This isn't 2020. We are like, we are way far beyond starting alone, figuring it out by yourself, going to YouTube University, none of that stuff. We are at a point now where we have resources, communities, and people to help you. So instead of trying to maneuver over your block your wall, the hurdle by yourself, let us lift you, carry you, pull you up over the wall, and cheer you on at the same time. Don't podcast alone and take your fear of starting a podcast and turn it into excitement because your body doesn't know the difference between the two. You get to decide on am I scared or am I excited? Am I scared to stand up in front of a bunch of people I don't know and talk, or am I excited that I get a chance to talk to a bunch of people I don't know? You get to decide that your body's going to react the same way either way. Whatever you choose, choose excitement over fear. If you need help, howtopodcast ca and if you want community, howtopodcast ca come to our meetup group and meet the most amazing men and women in podcasting you'll ever meet. Come join us. You're not alone. There's a big wall in front of you. Are you gonna be excited about the wall? Are you gonna be afraid of the wall? That's your choice, and I can't choose that for you, but I will support you. HowtoPodcast ca talk soon.