E639 - Improve your Enunciation, Be Clearly Understood by Speaking Clearly - Behind the Mic Series

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Podcast Summary

The How To Podcast Series – Revolving Co-Hosts, Actionable Tips, And A Community for Podcasters

Host: Dave Campbell, Ontario, Canada
Episode: E639 – Improve your Enunciation, Be Clearly Understood by Speaking Clearly – Behind the Mic Series
Date: March 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode, part of the "Behind the Mic" mini-series, dives deep into enunciation—a critical but often overlooked podcasting skill. Dave Campbell discusses how podcasters can ensure their message is clearly understood by speaking more intentionally, regardless of their accent or background. With warmth and humor, Dave encourages podcasters to celebrate their authentic voice while offering actionable strategies for clearer speech, improved listener experience, and better performance with transcription tools.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Value of Accents and Your Unique Voice

• Dave emphasizes: Podcasting’s beauty lies in its diversity. You should NOT erase your accent:

  "Do not use this episode as a reason or an excuse to get rid of your accent. Please don't... that's exactly what your audience is looking for. You." (02:20)

• The more unique the voices, especially underrepresented ones, the richer the podcasting world.

2. The Real Goal: Clarity, Not Uniformity

• Improving enunciation is about making sure your message is easily understood—not about sounding like everyone else.
• Issues like speed, mumbling, and dropped final letters often prevent clear understanding.

3. Transcription as a Tool for Feedback (06:00)

• Many podcasters use automated transcription tools, and poor enunciation causes “weird words” or inaccurate transcripts.
• Clear speech helps extract maximum benefit from these services:

  "You're not going to get the full benefit of a transcription service if you're not speaking clearly." (06:59)

4. Accents, Dialects, and Audience Connection

• Know your audience: If you’re targeting a local audience, lean fully into your dialect. But if you’re aiming broader, adjusting clarity and even terminology may help more listeners relate.
• Example: Scottish and French-Canadian speakers may need to clarify for English audiences.

  "If a Scottish person is speaking to a Scottish audience, you can ignore this part... but if you're a Scottish podcaster and you're trying to reach an English-speaking audience, then you need to speak in a way that helps English-speaking audiences understand..." (08:50)

5. Common Causes of Poor Clarity

• Speaking too quickly: Rushing blends words together.
• Throwaway endings: Dropping final consonants or letters, e.g. “important” as “importan.”
• Mumbling: Comes from nervousness, insecurity, or lack of vocal projection.

6. Humorous & Relatable Examples (Accents in Action)

• Dave shares clips of Boston and Southern US creators exaggerating their regional speech, illustrating the struggles of transcription and listener comprehension.

  "The only thing this is breaking is my brain. What are you saying she's gonna be?" (Boston accent skit, 12:03)

• These moments highlight how humor and accent can be a feature—not a bug—if handled with intention.

7. The Speed Problem (14:06)

• Some podcasters need to slow down to be understood.

  "I was talking like this. I was talking so fast that no one could understand what I was saying. What really helped was doing the exact opposite." (14:06, Guest voice)

• Slowing down isn’t boring; it gives listeners time to "catch their breath" and reduces anxiety.

8. Southern Drawl & International Audiences (17:20)

• Dave playfully highlights endearing Southern phrases, showing the importance of giving context for unfamiliar audience.
• Story: An American service member based in Japan tunes in to hear a familiar southern accent and feel “close to home” (20:00).

9. Practical Tips for Better Enunciation (22:00)

• Don’t drop consonants—finish every word.
• Slow down your delivery so words don’t blend together.
• Practice by reading aloud or using tongue twisters.
• Listen back to your episodes: Are you being clear? Do you need to clarify local phrases for your audience?
• Use transcript tools as “feedback mirrors” to spot problem words or patterns.
• Give context for regional terms; don’t hide your cultural uniqueness.

10. Encouragement & Community

• Dave reassures:

  "Lean into [your accent] and give context, right? When you find yourself going too fast, maybe slow down. When you find yourself saying things that people might not understand... bring some clarity to it." (22:49)

• Example: Your accent might be precisely what helps a specific listener, somewhere in the world, connect with your show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Accents:

  "Do not take away your accent. Do not take away your Scottish accent, your English accent, your what? Wherever you're from. New Zealand..." (21:45)

• On Clarity:

  "Pay attention to consonants like the letter T, the letter K, the letter P, and the letter D. When you hit the end of words, it makes a big difference..." (24:00)

• Listener Story:

  "This listener in Japan was listening to the podcast with this deep Southern drawl because they missed their home. They missed somebody who sounded like home when they were living in Japan." (20:55)

• On Listening Back:

  "You should be listening back to your episodes. Am I being clear in this moment? Am I being too fast? Am I doing too slow? Is my accent over, overwhelming my audience in this moment?" (27:00)

• On the Power of Podcasting:

  "Our words have power if we use them right." (29:30)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:01 – 03:00: Introduction, episode purpose, celebration of diverse podcaster backgrounds
• 06:00 – 07:15: Transcription and clarity—the tech tie-in
• 08:50 – 10:30: Dialects and knowing your audience
• 11:45 – 12:12: Boston accent skit (illustration of extremes)
• 14:06 – 14:23: The too-fast/too-slow balance in speech
• 17:20 – 17:52: Southern sayings skit—playing up local color
• 20:00 – 21:00: Connecting with a listener overseas through accent
• 22:00 – 25:00: Practical enunciation tips; "finish your words"
• 27:00 – 28:00: Importance of listening back to yourself
• 29:30 – end: Encouragement to join a podcasting community and keep your voice authentic

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Takeaway Tips & Action Steps

• Celebrate your voice—don’t eliminate your accent, but ensure clarity for your intended audience.
• Slow down if listeners struggle to follow or transcripts look odd.
• Practice enunciation, especially final consonants.
• Use transcripts as a feedback tool; look for frequent misheard words.
• Clarify regional sayings when speaking to a global audience.
• Listen back to your episodes and self-assess for speed, clarity, and context.
• Get support from a community (like the HowToPodcast.ca Meetups) for feedback and accountability.

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Final Thoughts & Tone

Dave’s episode is caring, humorous, and practical—empowering podcasters to be themselves while striving to communicate more effectively. Listeners are encouraged to maintain their cultural identity on mic and make strategic tweaks for clarity, especially when using transcription tools or addressing a diverse audience.

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For more actionable podcasting advice and real community, check out the upcoming Behind the Mic episodes or join the HowToPodcast.ca community meetups.

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Transcript

[A]

Okay, we're rolling.

[B]

Hey, welcome back to the how to podcast series. It's Dave. It's me. Yeah, hi. Glad to be here with you. Hope you're doing well. I want to help you. We're doing like a Behind the Mic series. This will be sorted in a playlist on YouTube. If you're a YouTuber, you like to have podcasts on YouTube, then definitely check us out over there. Love to have you interact with our YouTube channel. And what we're doing is we're grouping episodes like this, this little mini series around behind the Mic. We want to help you as a podcaster to learn how to use this mic properly and how to use your voice and how to connect better through your voice into the ears of your listener. And we're doing that through this little mini series. So the first one I want to talk to you about is improving your enunciation. We want you to be clearly understood by speaking clearly. And this will be an interesting conversation because we're going to touch on a few things that might make you a little bit uneasy, but it's meant in love. And I want you to connect better with your audience. There's some simple things we can do to clean up how we sound on the microphone, and there's some benefits to doing it better that'll help you in the long term. Glad you're here. Let's go. Now, I want to just put this out there first because we have listeners around the world, podcasters who we love from around the world. We have podcasters from Australia. We have amazing podcasters from the uk and we've had podcasts from the continent of Africa and the US with all your amazing different accents. Within the US we have Canada. I know. I don't have an accent. You're like, yes, you do. Just say about. Come on, monkey. Say about. Yeah, about a boot. Right? Yeah. So we have our own things. I get it, I get it. We. We all have our own accents. This episode is not meant to be an episode where you wipe away you and now you speak. The idea behind this episode is to not to get rid of your accent and what makes you uniquely you, because that's exactly what your audience is looking for. You. Your audience is looking for somebody who looks like sounds like comes from a place like they have come from. And the more people we have who don't sound like everyone else, the better. That's what makes podcasting so flipping amazing, is anyone can do this. And the more voices we have, especially for underrepresented audiences who are hungry to connect with somebody who knows what it's like to come from where you've come from and come where they came from, who can speak their language, who can share deep cultural things that others just can't. That's what makes you uniquely you. So do not use this episode as a reason or an excuse to get rid of your accent. Please don't. Please don't. The idea behind this episode is I want you to be clearly understood. And in some cases, it's just simply you need to slow down when you talk. Some cultures get very animated when they talk. I have some Italian friends. I love my Italian friends. But when you get a bunch of Italian people together at a wedding or a function, the room, it gets a little loud and it's. Yeah. And people talk quickly and they're very passionate. Put on any type of football. Americans, we call it soccer. But put on any football on the screen and anything to do with sports and whatever, and you're going to get a loud room. And when people start talking quickly, it's sometimes hard to understand what you're saying, which then impacts your audience. One of the biggest things that I'm getting feedback from podcasters about is when they run a transcription of their show, and the transcription comes back with some pretty weird words, like really bad spelling words that aren't real words, where the transcription service of choice is trying to make sense of your. Of your words and how you enunciate your words. So I want to talk about that here on the show because I think there's a big advantage for us that do use transcription services that we need to speak clearly so that the transcription service can take what we've said and turn it into printed words, which then we can use for so many things. You're not going to get the full benefit of a transcription service if you're not speaking clearly. And that's what we want to talk about here on the show. So part of the behind the Mic series is how to improve your enunciation. And I'm glad you're here. Growing up, I seemed to mumble a lot. Where in. I wouldn't speak loud and clearly in front of a group of people. A lot of it was due to my. My feelings of inadequacy and being introverted. And who would ever care what I have to say and fear of speaking in public? I would mumble. And when I mumble, people couldn't understand what I'm saying. People would mock me for my voice, and that just made me want to talk less. And I Wasn't able to connect with my audience because I kind of mumbled in my words. When you do that, people are like, now that's gonna really be really hard to transcribe. When you do stuff like mumbling and you're not pronouncing and enunciating your words properly, it's very hard for these tools, like I mentioned, to pick out the words you're saying and give them back to you. So if you're struggling when you look at your transcriptions, I want you to think for a second, okay, am I just talking too fast? Should I just slow down? One of the things I've noticed in podcasting and speaking for people who speak on stages is that they sometimes throw away the last letter or so from the words that they're saying. They don't completely say the word. They get a little lazy vocally in how they pronounce and enunciate their words, and that becomes hard to understand. Now, I know that we have dialects, I know that we have words that make sense to some people but not to others, and that's what makes us uniquely us. But when we're trying to connect with an audience, we need to be sure that we're trying to speak as clearly as we can to the audience that we're trying to reach. So I know some, I have some great friends from Scotland. That's where my ancestors come from. And Scottish people, we, we. We have some interesting ways of pronouncing words, and we have our own words, which people are like, I have no idea what you're saying right now. And it's difficult to get across a point when people don't know what we're saying. So sometimes we need to take something that's in our head and think of it from a listener's perspective and put it out in a way that they would connect with what we're saying if we want to be clearly understood. Now, if a Scottish person is speaking to a Scottish audience, you can ignore this part because the audience that you're speaking to and your desired people that you're trying to reach, they understand you. And you don't need to speak in a way that simplifies what you're trying to say for an audience that you're trying to reach. But if you're a Scottish podcaster and you're trying to reach an English speaking audience, then you need to speak in a way that helps English speaking audiences understand what you're saying. If you're French and you're trying to speak to an English speaking audience, there are terms, there are ways of phrasing what you're saying. That almost sounds backwards to an English speaking person translated from French to English. And I would say the, the opposite is true. When we're trying to translate from English to French, it sounds like we're speaking backwards to our French listeners. Being in Canada, we have French and English as our two official languages. So we hear this back and forth all the time between translations where it sounds right in the language it's spoken in, but when it's translated to a different language, it sounds almost like you're saying things backwards, like you've reversed the order of the words. And it's, it's, it's not designed to be for the audience that it's, that's listening in that language. It's designed to be a direct translation of what was said in the first language, which doesn't always translate to the second. First of all, you need to know your audience, and that's probably one of the main things in podcasting that we need to always keep in mind. You got to know who you're talking to. That will shape everything that you do and the advice that you accept and the advice that you don't accept from podcasts about podcasting like this one, because you know your audience and you know who you're trying to reach, and you only take the information that works for you. Hopefully this episode works for you. Now, I've been listening to a podcast about podcasting and this person, they live in the States. They can't say. They, they don't say the word crayon the way that I would say the word crayon. And when they say the word crayon, I, I don't know what they're saying. There's a. So that's just simple. That's the way they talk. That's where they're from. And I don't want them to change where they are and where they're from. But understand that the way that they say the word, specifically the word crayon doesn't translate to, to a transcription service very well. It sounds like a totally different word. There's a couple on TikTok and, and she has a very strong Boston accent. And they're playing it up right? That's what they're doing. They're, they're, they're, they're making it very obvious that she has this really strong accent. But the words that she's saying, if they were transcribed, would not be the words she's intending to Say. So here's a little clip just as a point of reference, right? And they're doing this to. To be funny. They're. They're. They're not doing this to mock anyone. So don't be offended for all my Boston listeners. Love you guys, but the way she's. She's playing it up. She's definitely playing it up. So here's a little. An example, just so you know, and this is not meant to make anybody feel small, but this is what I'm explaining to you is a transcription service will struggle with this accent being. Being played up the way it's being played up. So here's an example.

[C]

I feel like she's going to be a perfect combo of, like, my sassiness. But then your work ethic, like, she's going to be such a heartbreaker.

[D]

She's going to be a season ticket holder. Is that what you just said?

[C]

No. A heartbreaker.

[D]

Let's start with the first word. Was it Marlboro?

[C]

Hot reds. Like, yeah, hot. Hot breaker.

[D]

The only thing this is breaking is my brain. What are you saying she's gonna be?

[C]

Is this gonna be our life forever?

[D]

I don't know if I can handle it.

[B]

So that's, again, an example. They're playing it up, everyone. Okay, Boston people, we love you. There's just that. There's that. I love that. I love that accent. And. And people are like, dave, you have an accent. What are you talking about? Don't do be. Don't be throwing shade on us here in Boston. You Canadians have accents. I know we do. I know. My point in all of this is not to mock anybody's accent, because I think that's the beauty of podcasting. Again, I love it. I just want us to be cleared and be able to enunciate our words so that if you're using a transcription service, if people are struggling to understand you, then you might be missing out on connection points with your audience. Just understand. So whether you make light of it, whether you make that part of your show, whether you have to maybe slow down. As a podcaster. There's a podcast about podcasting, and this host talks so flipping fast. I don't speed her up. I slow her down. I don't know if she's doing the podcast during an actual marathon, running down a hill at full speed, trying to get every word in before the garage door shuts. I don't. I don't understand the hurry. And for me, I actually have to slow her down. The recording, like the. The speed of her talking so that I can understand what the words are, because they just fly by like a car on a highway. Just. You're like, why? I have no idea what just happened. So you might just need to slow down. It might not be your accent. It might not be how you're enunciating. You just might be talking too fast. Like, this person was explaining. One of my biggest problems was that

[E]

I was talking like this. I was talking so fast that no one could understand what I was saying. What really helped was doing the exact opposite. I started talking like this, and as I practiced it, I developed a style between too fast and too slow. Maybe you can relate to this.

[B]

Slowing down doesn't make you boring, doesn't put your audience to sleep. It allows for some space. Some space for people to contemplate what you just said in real time while still hearing you say the next thing. It just allows your audience a chance to breathe. When I listen to that podcast about podcasting, and that host does not slow down at all. It's one speed, and it's all out 100 miles an hour. There's no chance for me to catch my breath. And I find, personally speaking, my anxiety level notches up a couple because I. I'm afraid of missing something. I feel anxious. And while I listen to that show to the point where I stopped listening, I just. I can't. I can't do it. And I don't understand why no one's ever reached out to this person and said, hey, could you just slow it down a little bit? Like, I'm having a hard time as a listener contemplating the amazing quality of your content, but you just need to slow it down. So maybe that's it. Maybe that's for you. That will also show in your transcriptions. If you're going way too fast, it might be a chance for you just to slow it down a little bit. Maybe a little less speed and a little more clarity would really help your show again. You do the show any way you want. I'm speaking on behalf of your listeners. They might be too afraid to say, can you just slow down? That could really help you. And then what I love, again, being a Canadian, I have so many great American friends through podcasting, and I love my Southern friends because of their accent. Sometimes some of my American friends could actually speed up a little because they're so relaxed in how they talk. And I. I'm actually quite fond of my. Of my American friends with a deep Southern accent. And here's another creator on TikTok who purposely exaggerates the accents from her part of the world. And I just. I'm addicted to her content because, a. I love how she talks and she's hilarious. So here's a little clip as well of maybe some terminology that doesn't translate well to the rest of the world. But again, remember, keep in mind, it's. Who are you speaking to? Who is your audience? And if you're speaking to somebody who does not live where you live, you might want to think about your terminology and how you say what you say. Could use a little bit of color to help people understand some of these sayings, but this is just. This makes me happy to listen to this, but here you go.

[A]

Well, ain't you just a little porcupine today? You say stuff like that in public. You got a sharp tongue for somebody who still lives at home. You kiss your mama with that mouth, you better fix your tongue before somebody else does. Hey, careful now. Them spiting words. You keep on, and somebody's gonna snatch the ugly right off of you. Well, bless your little bitter heart. It must be exhausting being that unpleasant all the time. Well, somebody didn't get enough hugs growing up. That chip on your shoulder must be heavy. Well, I ain't no cactus expert, but know a prick when I see one.

[B]

No, that's. That's. That's worth listening to. Again, I. I just. I love it. I love it. No, again, that's the beauty of podcasting, right? We can do whatever we want with our show. My big thing, my big takeaway for all of us is just to enunciate. Do your best to be clear when you speak so that your audience doesn't have to wrestle with what you're saying and how you're trying to communicate clearly, enunciating your words can really help. So as a podcaster, I just want to kind of talk a little bit more about what we can do behind the mic to be clearly understood by our audience. Clear, intentional speech that makes your message easy to understand is one of the key parts of podcasting. No matter what language you speak, whatever accent you have, it's one of the most common things that holds podcasters back, especially when they feel like listeners aren't fully connecting with what they're saying. One thing is clear. And I hear this often through podcasts. People have actually reached out to me and said, dave, I have an accent. Does this mean that I'm not going to sound professional or that I'm not going to connect with my audience? I say lean into it and give context, right? When you find yourself going too fast, maybe slow down. When you find yourself saying things that people might not understand because they don't live where you live, you bring some clarity to it. You. You explain it a little, and you play it up to be you. I had one podcaster who reached out to me, and they were seriously doubting the effectiveness and impact of their podcast because they had kind of that southern draw. They had that southern accent that was deep south. And they thought, am I. Am I connecting? They said, like, I have listeners in, like, Japan, and I don't understand why they're listening to my show. And when we did our research, we found out that the listener in Japan was a service member who was serving their country overseas, stationed in Japan, and they were from the area of the world where the host was from on the podcast. This listener in Japan was listening to the podcast with this deep Southern drawl because they missed their home. They missed somebody who sounded like home when they were living in Japan. If you had, let's say, air quotes here, cleaned up your accent to not be so southern, would you have connected in the same way with a listener in Japan who's serving away from his family on the other side of the world, missing home? No. Do not take away your accent. Do not take away your Scottish accent, your English accent, your what? Wherever. Wherever you're from. New Zealand. Okay? For my. In Australia, where words that end in the letter A are replaced with an R and words that end in an R are replaced with the letter A I. That's what you do down there. And it sounds very interesting and very identifiable when the word idea is idear and when there is there, there, I can't even say it, but I love hearing it, right? That is so cool to me because I know exactly who you are. And you're not changing who you are for your audience. You're being you. And that's just so cool, right? I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. So don't use this podcast as a redirect for you to change who you are on the microphone. My big request of you is to enunciate when you speak too fast. People miss some of the things you say when you are not clearly pronouncing your words in a way that a transcription will pick it up. It's going to cause you work. These are all things that you can work through, right? And do what you think you want to do on your show. It's all your podcast. Pay attention to consonants like the letter T, the letter K, the letter P, and the letter D. When you hit the end of words, it makes a big difference on the microphone when you stop dropping those letters. So when you say important, there's T's in the word, right? When you remove the letter T from the word important, you get a totally different word. When you drop the last letter of a word and you don't pronounce the word, you might, because you're going too fast. It might just be that you're not giving the word their full space in the sentence. So make sure you're pronouncing the letters in the words. Just keep that in mind. A T at the end of the word important has a T at the end. It's not important. It ends on the N, it ends on a T. The T's there for a reason. Important, right? Keep those things in mind. It's really going to help. And if you're like saying to me, Dave, it's really difficult to enunciate all those T's, then slow down and say it clearly, Making sure that every word you finish is clearly pronounced to the end of the word. This isn't about sounding stiff or robotic. It's about training your mouth to finish the words properly so that your natural speaking voice becomes clearer. Remember, and even. Even to this date, there's still times I might do this. I tend to mumble. I tend to be a quiet speaker. I tend to be someone who doesn't project. And by being a musician and a singer, I've had to learn how to break out of my default setting of mumble to be more clear on the microphone, enunciate and add all the letters to the word that I'm skipping by mumbling. So if you're like me and you mumble, your audience is going to have a hard time connecting with what you're saying. We need to annunciate and we need maybe just to slow the heck down. When you're practicing, slow your speech down and think of the word individually instead of letting everything run together. Your words shouldn't mash together in one long word. There should be some kind of cadence, gallop, spacing between your words. Like that. That allows people to catch up with you. You quickly hear where you're dropping sounds or losing clarity. And once you hear it, you can fix it. You should be listening back to your episodes. Am I being clear in this moment? Am I being too fast? Am I doing too slow? Is my accent over, overwhelming my audience in this moment? Could I Give some clarity and context to what I just said. Exercises like reading out loud in the morning or practicing short phrases really does help. But the real improvement comes when you bring that awareness into your everyday podcast recording and everyday speech. Clearly enunciating makes you podcast easier to listen to and makes your show way more engaging. You sound more professional because people aren't wrestling with what you're saying. The words are striking clearly, and people are able to pick it up. Check out your. Take your show and throw out your. Your podcast recording into a transcription service. I'm currently using Adobe Podcasts. I'm paying for the Adobe Podcast platform because I use it for audio fixes, for bad guest audio. And right there on the screen, there's a get a transcript button. Get the transcript from your show and read it word for word. You'll see all your ums, your ahs, or all your things that you do. You'll see, for me, I'll see all my sews, because I love the word. So I am kind of a sewing factory. Yeah. Anyway, I love sews and I see them in my. In my. In my transcript. So get your transcript for your show, however you do it, and look at the words and see if you're pronouncing things like a city or a book or a hard, difficult word to pronounce. Does the transcription pick it up? Yes or no? You might be doing better than you think, but I encourage you to take a look at your transcript as often as possible and improve where you can do what you can with what you have, where you are. It's part of the behind the Mic series. We want you to improve your enunciation. We want you to be clearly understood by your audience. And to do that, you need to speak clearly. You might need to slow down. You might need to address how you speak on a microphone, and you might have to stop dropping those letters off the end of words because it's not landing the way you want to. Remember, the letters are there for a reason. And we need to practice and we need to understand that our words have power if we use them right. I'm glad you're here. Thanks for being here. Hey, thanks for being here to the end of the episode. That means a lot to me. It means a lot to all the players and all the apps. You're telling the apps this is a podcast worth listening to. So you've just made this show better. So thank you. Now, I've had people reach out to me and they're like, dave, I need to start a podcast. And I. I'd love to start, but when I come to your show, there's. There's a lot of episodes and I don't know where to start. How do I skip the line? How do I. How do I get to where I want to be without listening to over 500, 600 episodes? How do we. How do we make this happen? I love what you do, but I want to just get going. Well, I do offer consultations on podcasting and helping you and launching podcasts and coaching and mindset and everything. Technology, interviewing techniques, whatever you can think of, I can help you with. And I have some paid offerings then to help you with that. So if you want to skip the line, great. You and I can work together. Let's figure out what. What you can afford. Let's figure out what we can do together. Always happy to help. Understand though, this podcast is always going to be free. So you can bypass paying anything for anything, because this show is always free. The meetups that we do, which is podcast consulting in a community setting, always free. Twice a week, over two years, we've been doing it. There's always a free option. I'm not going to charge you to be here as a listener, but if you want to skip the line and, and kind of condense 500 plus episodes, then let's work together, you and I together. And I have some paid offerings. Reach out to me. We can Talk about it. HowToPodcast CA. Thank you for being here. Thank you for listening to the end. I really appreciate you and I appreciate you being part of this community. Always free, but always helpful. It's a how to podcast series. Thanks for being here. Cheers. Okay, so you're still here. Great. Yeah, most people are gone now, so I'm doing this at the end of the episode. A reminder that I don't think you and I need to podcast alone. I think it's not healthy for us to be doing all this work by ourself in a vacuum. We need connections with people, and people have been reaching out. Even though I've been talking about this on the show a lot, they asked me, Dave. I just wish there was a community of podcasters. I can't afford it. I can't afford these expensive podcast masterminds. Thousands of dollars a month. I just can't. Can't do it. Come and join our meetups. We do them twice a week, every Tuesday and Saturday. We possibly can do more if in the future, if we have more people saying, yeah, we want more, but Tuesdays and Saturdays, we get together with podcasters from around the world and we talk about podcasting and it's super fun. It's great to have somebody else in your corner. I am a firm believer that you should never podcast alone. You should have people in your world that lift you up, support you, and you're accountable to as well. I think that we need this right now. In podcasting. I don't see a lot of free active community groups. And on the meetup platform, there's that I'm seeing there's very few podcast specific meetups that happen on a regular basis. We've been doing this for over two years and we have a great community and these people are some of the nicest human beings you'll ever meet. There's no judgment, only encouragement. And at the same time, the idea behind the group is not that we just sit around and talk about podcasting, but we are actually our active podcast podcasters. So if you come to the group and you don't have a show, our goal very transparently is for you to have a podcast, not just sit around and watch what's happening and be an observer. We want you to be an active podcaster because of the group. So come. Even if you don't have a show, you don't have to have a podcast to be part of our meetup, but we want to be with you, supporting you on your journey of getting started. It's one thing to take in information, it's another thing to act. So if you come to our group, we're going to be gently and lovingly pushing you towards Wednesday episodes launching winner. When can we listen? And that's the kind of kick in the pants that I think a lot of podcasters need, especially at the beginning of 2026 as people are dreaming about starting a show. You just might need somebody's a good butt kicker in love to get you going on your journey as a podcaster. And that's what we do on our meetups. Check out howtopodcast.ca love to have you there. Thanks for all the questions. And again, we'll have more of these coming up in the future. More episodes too, behind the mic, so make sure you stick around. Thanks for being here. Take care. Bye.