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Philippe
The alpha activity in the limbic system that gets destroyed through an iPhone 15 or 16 or other phone. They just all do that. Their brains get stressed by electromagnetic fields and they're constantly on their phones, on their iPads, on their gaming. It is so bad because they can't really develop in a normal way anymore. Is being put up pretty much everywhere. They're creating this artificial electromagnetic grid and shield all around the earth and there won't be any escaping anymore from this.
Dave Asprey
Did you hear about the latest thing that Tesla just turned on?
Philippe
They are very dangerous on one end and on another end you can't even block them anymore. With normal means you're listening to the
Dave Asprey
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This is one of those episodes that I'm excited to have, but I'm also not excited to have. If I can be really blunt. The reason is that it would be a lot easier to talk about biohacking if we were just meat robots. If everything was mechanistic and you could just add more of this ingredient or that ingredient and it would work. Because the problem is it oftentimes does work. If you add more testosterone, like you have a measurable effect. But what happens when you do something that you can't see that creates a measurable effect in dozens of placebo controlled clinical trials? And what happens when that thing maybe doesn't work by any mechanism that you understand? It means that something in your model of reality probably is unknown. And for normal humans, if you're listening to the show, maybe you're not one, or maybe you are and you're a normal human improving. Well, either way, when our model doesn't work and something happens that shouldn't be possible, but provably is, it actually creates a deep unconscious sense of fear. Like if something's not safe, like I thought I had it figured out and now there's something that challenges that. This episode is that for you. And it's easy for me to talk about the simple stuff. It's harder for me to talk about the esoteric, the spiritual, the energetic, the quantum. Except there's science that backs it up. And half my path has been hand with longevity doctors. Half my path has been hanged with monks and shamans in the middle of nowhere on high mountain peaks. And this is neither one of those either. And our guest is someone who's been on the show before the leap. Samor von Hutzendorf Fehling, I hope I said that right, is a coach, he's an entrepreneur and he's an energy worker. Successful entrepreneur, I might add. Worked at T Mobile for a long time as a vp and he started Leela Quantum Tech in full admission. First time I got one of their devices, I thought this thing can't possibly work. And I delayed turning it on or not even turn on disassembling it. And when I finally did, and I accidentally ran an experiment by putting some flowers on it when I had an identical set of flowers that weren't on it, and the ones on it lasted three times longer, like, what is going on with this? And I dug into the science and said, oh, my gosh, this is a cool piece of tech. That was already enough to be kind of interesting. But then, well, Philippe called me a couple years later and said, I have a remote service that does something similar but not identical. I said, oh, man, I know energy workers who can do this. I trust them. So let's go deep and. Well, that's what this episode's about. About something called Quantum Upgrade. Philippe, welcome back to the show.
Philippe
Thanks so much for having me.
Dave Asprey
All right, so a lot of listeners probably didn't hear last episode or just don't remember it. So what is Quantum Upgrade?
Philippe
So we build a system that has one of the most powerful sources of quantum energy on Earth. And we built it in a way that we can provide anyone with a customized quantum field over distance, but not just any one human, but also pets at this stage. We have dogs, cats, and horses that we can accommodate, but also cars, a home or location, as well as even a business. And the trick is, and the really fun and amazing aspect is that the user can. Can 100% control it. So the user can at all times say, I want to pause it, I want to increase the energy level or decrease it, or I want to book in specific frequencies. And it happens in near real time. It actually now happens faster than before because that was another thing. We made the system even faster. It updates every two minutes now versus every five minutes beforehand. And that's in a nutshell, right? So you can very easily. It's like every seven year old, can't even do it. You can get on your phone, get on your laptop, set it up. By the way, you can have a free trial. You probably know the code or link or whatever, but we'll get to that later. Yeah, look in the show notes, and then you can try it for yourself. Then you put in your data with a unique identifier that we need. It's very simple, just some Data points.
Dave Asprey
It's QuantumUpgrade IO, Dave. You guys go there, you get 15 days. You have to put in a credit card number. You just give it a try and be curious about it. And, you know, I'm not that easy to convince, but I think there's some results here. And it's not just that I think it. It's that. How many studies do you have on this tech now?
Philippe
Over 15 placebo controlled trials and over 25 studies just for this piece of tech. Already published, by the way. We have published in the Natural Doctors News. We're currently on waiting for some international big publications in medical journals. That just takes some time but you know, it's a long, long patient process but will be happening. So yeah, there's, there's a lot to be honest in that regard.
Dave Asprey
It's refreshing. They're doing the work and what are the results? In fact, I don't even know. The way I describe this is you're sending a, a focus intention quantum field or quantum beam towards a specific person or location and that it has measurable effects. And, and I know you don't disclose how you do it and I know the skeptics will say, you know, there's, there's no way it can be, therefore it isn't. By the way, that's not scientific, that's religion. But if you say that, you're saying, you know, they're, they're just, you know, sending fairy dust or something. I explain away not just a few, but a lot of placebo controlled trials. Like something about reality says that intention matters. And this wouldn't be our only guest who said that. Joe Dispenza has come on and Bruce Lipton and Dawson Church and so many luminaries who've been studying the esoteric. What I want to know is how the heck do you come up with something like this?
Philippe
That's a great question. Honestly, it was a vision and a calling that developed within me at some point where I bumped, I think it was in 2018 into some quantum tech. And then I saw what they were doing. I was like, this is such an amazing idea. And it would be amazing if they did it right. Because they didn't do it right. They did it in a way where they added magnetism or electricity and it would add stress to the human body also had some benefits, but then they would neutralize each other. And so I was like, oh my God. Like if, if that would be possible to create in a way where it's like totally harmonious with the human cells, that would be incredible. That's exactly what Einstein was talking about. You know, the future of medicine will be the medicine of frequencies. And then it developed from there. And then I assembled a team and we some pretty gifted people and we developed it. And honestly, of course, it's hard for just a regular person that's not used to something like this. That this can work, to accept it right away and say, of course, yeah, sure, I've been waiting for this for 100 years. Healers will say that probably because they've known that this is possible and they also see the energy for other people. It's a little bit harder, which it is with every technology, even with AI. You know, if I had told you or you told me two years ago what we could do with AI today, we probably wouldn't have believed it. So it's very cool, to be honest. And I'm so happy that we're at this stage yet where I would bet anyone who says this cannot work. Come on, bring it on. Bring the bet on. We'll get you tested with a 256 channel EEG, which is a mainstream testing device, the most advanced tech on the market in regards to EEG measurement. You can look into the limbic system, into the brain, like with an MRI, and you will see that it works in 100% of the cases. We're extremely comfortable saying this. We don't only have the research, we've also done it with several influencers or doctors that wanted to see it firsthand. I invite skeptical people to a bet if they want to, but you can also test it because it comes on like a Swiss clockwork and people may not understand fully how it works. It's also not that we're not, we're not really sending it like you would with a cell tower to a 5G phone. I've been with a Quantum Upgrade featured on health uncensored with Dr. Drew. I had been on that before with Leela Quantum Tech, but then they were looking into Quantum upgrade and Dr. Drew, I think, you know, that he's a pretty skeptical dude. I think he.
Dave Asprey
Yeah, I was, I was scared the first time I went on his show like a dozen years ago. I'm like, he's, he's going to really argue about supplements, but I've got my science. But it turns out he was using some of my stuff. I was like, oh, thank goodness. So he's curious but open minded and, and not easy to fool. What, what do you say about Quantum Upgrade?
Philippe
Yeah, so they sent a whole team out to an institute in Frankfurt that has this 256 channel EEG. They invited 2 tons boxing world champion Natalie Zimmerman to be the guinea pig to get tested with, you know, baseline testing, then an iPhone 16 right next to her ear, 5G call for 30 minutes and then do the same thing. Also without the quantum upgrade. And his director and the team that they sent signed up for the Quantum upgrade literally 10 minutes afterwards while they were still in that institute, because they saw firsthand what what is going on, and it's crazy. And the whole show, even he invited his director on, who lives in London and flew to Frankfurt to do this. And then they flew him into the studio because he just wanted to hear the story. So that was quite phenomenal and amazing. And for us, it was nice. I mean, that wasn't obviously a randomized double blind study, but we've done that too. This was a TV tests, Right. So you're there with the whole team and it works.
Dave Asprey
Wow. And you were measuring the effect with dark field microscopy.
Philippe
No, that was the 256 channel EEG.
Dave Asprey
Okay. What brain changes do you see when you turn on the Quantum Upgrade?
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Philippe
All the stress linked brain waves that they could see in the brain were reduced and neutralized. And the alpha activity in the limbic system that gets destroyed through an iPhone, 15 or 16 or other phones I should say as well, like of the latest generation, they just all do that. It got completely boosted by 13x. So that's, that's significant.
Dave Asprey
Wow. Did you hear about the latest thing that Tesla just turned on? Apparently it's been installed in their cars for the last three years. But this is 60 GHz millimeter wave. Basically radar inside the cabin so that they can watch your biology with this. Kind of like the airport scanners, but you're just getting sitting in that all day long when you're driving around. Is this the kind of thing that you might be able to mitigate its effects on the body? And if so, how does it work?
Philippe
I'm glad you're asking that question. So there was a whole study that was done in Europe in regards to electric cars. Now, I don't know if that specific car had that. It was about a year ago and it was the most powerful electric car on the market. And it showed a complete neutralization effect of our technology in regards to the organs and the blood. These gigahertz frequencies that they're putting out more and more now, they're very dangerous on one end and on another end you can't even block them anymore with normal means. I mean, maybe you can have like a two foot silver wall or something like that that can block it, but you can't put that around your body. So at this point you. The technology that we have is superior to anything else out there that helps or says it can help with electromagnetic fields because we can provide a 360 degree harmonization, little harmonization of these electromagnetic fields. 360 degree, what do I mean by that? It's all around you, that it harmonizes it so you don't have to suffer from the negative consequences. There are a lot of these stickers out there that you can put on your cell phone. And I would say that about 90, 95% of those don't work at tested 13 of those. No efficacy. We do know that there are some out there that do work and do have efficacy, so I want to definitely mention that. But we also do know what they do because they've also been tested by this same device, not by us, but by that independent institute. And they have just this little effect because they only work right on the side of that phone. So they do have some like EMF sucking effect, right? But they don't work anywhere else and it's not strong whatsoever. Obviously we live in an EMF soup and the EMF soup is not just on my right ear. It's pretty much everywhere, right? When I'm walking around my house and I have WI fi on, I have it pretty much everywhere. And the same is true in every city with the cell towers. Cell towers Also, they have 5G, they have 6G. There are even other frequencies that we probably don't even want to talk about that they have. ROL is the really big thing. They're now talking about rolling out even further and faster than the gigahertz frequencies. So it needs modern solutions at this point. And with electric cars, I mean, I've told people for a long time, be very aware of this if you even want to have one of those. But if you do have one and you don't want to get rid of it. Then test our technology and see what it does for you.
Dave Asprey
It's been a concern for a long time. The electromagnetic fields inside, inside all the electric vehicles, they're not good for you. And pulsating EMFs like that, they're not compatible with our biology. And adding internal monitoring that's essentially radar on top of the emfs, it seems a little bit, a little bit scary. I'd love to see a study if you can do something to make the biology more resilient for the 60 GHz a millimeter wave, I think that's going to be a whole nother set of problems for people who are sitting in that all the time. And I'm actually a fan of huge amounts of what's happening. Just the costs are coming down. There's all kinds of good stuff going on. But if we don't understand that we're electrochemical beings, not just chemical beings, we'll keep designing technology that harms the biological part of what we do and the electrical part of what we do. And if we just think we're wet robots, it doesn't work. So I'm hoping to see some good results from what you're doing there. And so how would you measure results? It's dark field microscopy, heart rate variability, eeg. What works and what doesn't work to show that Leela quantum or that the quantum upgrade is doing what you say it does.
Philippe
Well, so if we speak about electromagnetic fields, we've done HRV testing. We've done extensive, absolutely extensive dark field microscopy testing, randomized double blind with different institutes in the US and in Europe. Hrv, by the way, also there are multiple studies. Then we've done the EEG also in various institutes and studies. We have also done the BASA testing which is a biosystem analysis. It's an advanced decaval method which is actually quite a cool biohacking diagnostics tool from my perspective, which completely got forgotten and never made it to the us. Really interesting. Oh wow. I wonder who was responsible for that. But it seems its renaissance in Europe right now. And you can test the well being of your organs. Basically you can see if an organ is in a deregulated state, in a regulated state or in a pathological deregulation and you can see within seconds if something impacts that negatively. It's quite phenomenal. So we've done that quite extensively. Then we've done ATP production studies, randomized double blind university. Great. Done at the University lab, the University of Tulsa. Cell recovery, wound healing studies. Five of those at the same university lab. So there's quite a lot of different testing that is going on. And it all shows the same thing. You know, it's. How do I explain it? Right? Some people understand what I'm talking about, others don't. Maybe it helps that we. Our core vibration, you know, if we weren't influenced by negative EMFs and other things, we would be in a coherent vibration. So there's coherence. Now we're being, or call it full balance. Right. We're thrown out of balance constantly by what we're exposed to, how we live our lives, whether that's blue light, whether that is, that messes with our melanin levels, whether that is electromagnetic fields or both, and other things. And this coherent, strongly coherent field that the quantum upgrade provides makes it so that we're vibrating in a way that none of this other stuff matters anymore. It goes right through us on one hand and also around us. It can literally harmonize these waves. You know, I've given this example before. If you were to hit me in the face, it would hurt me. If you give me an acupressure, my neck, it's beneficial. The same thing is true with frequencies. If they come in a way like they, when they're not harmonized, they disturb your field constantly, they create stress in the brain, they clog your blood, they destroy your heart rate variability. But if you can effectively harmonize them so that the signal is still there, you can still use your phone, but it doesn't affect your body and your biofuel in a negative way. That is, in essence, what we're doing.
Dave Asprey
Wow, that's. That's something that a lot of people look for. And I, I think honestly, this can work better than a sticker could. Just those little quantum stickers that people put out there that may or may not be quantum. So do you have like a quantum upgrade for not hating LED lights being shined into your retina?
Philippe
We don't have that yet, but we did do a study, the BASE Institute did a study which is really interesting because they looked at melanin levels. And so, and you will know this, that the melanin level gets messed with by blue light. And the melanin level, yeah, got stabilized and optimized with our technology. So there is, there's definitely something there that also supports on that level. But there's a lot in regards to frequencies that we have done and developed. And one thing is super, super interesting. And for Me like a very like heartwarming story here because what you may know is that we did a study or clinic did a study about four, four and a half years ago with our technology looking at autistic children and they looked at 42 kids in a clinical trial and they were all in the spectrum. Our technology was able to reduce the so called Attic score, which is that's what they use to measure where they are on the spectrum, by 20 basis points. 20 basis points over a six month period. And that was basic technology. No specific frequencies that we embedded. And now we've been developing our technology to a whole nother level and we were about to update a frequency that we call spectrum. So that spectrum frequency, we're working on updating it. Then a customer sends me a note and says, hey, I've been in touch with Susie Miller. She offered that she gets on the phone with you and maybe she has some additional input while you're updating this frequency. So Susie Miller, for the ones who don't know, can telepathically communicate with autistic children and she is the basis of the telepathy tapes.
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Dave Asprey
She's really powerful. I just. For people who are listening, if you haven't seen the telepathy tapes or heard about them, it's a. A whole podcast series about autistic kids have really good evidence that they're communicating telepathically. And one of the lead neuroscientists in the telepathy taste tapes is the 40 years of Zen Neuroscientists. So we'll say I'm into it. And so you're working with her. So you had basically a very attuned person help you design the frequency set for people on the spectrum.
Philippe
Yes, and she didn't design it, but she gave us very, very important input. And based on that, we were working on that also. Her input was that oftentimes the parents are a little bit of a roadblock. And she saw what we can do with the spectral frequency for the kids. But then she realized that the parents project so much onto their kids, whether that is guilt or it's this thought of they can't really get better because they've always been like this. So they don't really, like, allow this. So we've also created a frequency for their parents which is called Creativity Support. It's all live on Quantum Upgrade, by the way. The creativity support is. Everyone can use it. I've used it. It's a pretty awesome frequency. But it's specifically, it's very supportive for those par. And Suzy Miller has not recommended anything before, and she's been contacted apparently by dozens, dozens of companies all the time if she could recommend their products. And all of this, never, ever done anything like this. She is now recommending our Quantum Upgrade actively and she asked us a few times if she would be allowed to do that. And we're so happy to do that and to work with her because she's truly amazing and. And we're seeing amazing effects for these kids right now. Obviously we don't heal anything, of course, to get that out of the way. Right. For the fda, the disclaimer. But there is some support on a level that hasn't been there before for these kids, and something completely non invasive. So we're really excited about it. And yeah, she can obviously not only see the results in the children, she can also energetically observe what the Quantum Upgrade does.
Dave Asprey
That's one of the most powerful feedback ever. And I know there'll be people saying, well, that's not scientific. No, it is, right. If you say, look, I've Developed someone who has more perceptivity than average, right? Or special kind of ability to perceive things. You can gather a signal from that person, right, and say, oh, look, it's different when I change things. It's just normal science. So there doesn't have to be dogma about any of this. Unless your belief system is that, you know, if, if it doesn't physically touch your body, it can't hurt you. And at that point I just say, you ever been heartbroken? Like even that. That's just a dumb assumption. Of course it could hurt you if it doesn't touch your body, but what does it actually do to your body? And that's what I think you're getting into where, all right, what's happening in your body? And then you have the right frequencies and work, things work better. As I was setting up the 40 years of Zen quantum upgrade, I noticed that you've added a bunch of different frequency sets, a bunch of different capabilities. So talk to me about those. Like, what does it mean if I'm running? Gratitude. And if I have a booster and walk me through the thinking process that I should go through when I'm setting up my space.
Philippe
So first of all, everyone has the possibility to set a specific frequency and an energy level for their daytime and one for the nighttime. Why is that important? Because at nights we don't usually need stimulating energy. We just want to sleep and recover. So a low energy setting is great. That's what most people do, including me. I have it just on 500, which is the lowest setting at night at calm and rest. And that's it for my night, unless I feel a little sick or something. Then I put it on heal360. So you can choose from all these different, I think by now over 45 different frequencies, you know, they range from frequencies like gratitude and prosperity to frequencies that are for recovery, like Heal360. On the spectrum frequencies, we have one for athletes that is called Olympic performance or world champion. Those are two frequencies. We have other ones also that we've developed for all kinds of different use cases. And so people can choose them and just tune in. What do I need to do a day? What do I focus on? What do I want? And then they can just set these frequencies and go with it. And then the booster comes in very handy because sometimes, especially during the day, maybe at 3 o', clock, that's for a lot of people, they get this little, like, you know, I feel tired, you know, like, I don't know, I would like to take a Nap, but I can't. Coffee time. Right? And you know, nothing against coffee, but if you can do something in addition where you can lift your energy level up with just energy, and that's 100% natural thing that just comes in, wonderful. And then you can drink your coffee on top of that if you want, just for the pleasure of it. But that helps. So, you know, you know, I don't want to recommend this here because maybe people say, well, you know, he said I should do that and don't do this. But we know from a lot of people that have long road trips, right? I mean, they keep putting it on the brain support frequency on a booster. And our system is so flexible that you can set also multiple boosters after each other. So that's a way to use it. And whatever you need, you can do.
Dave Asprey
I definitely crank the power up a little bit. This is like my sixth interview today and I'm just endlessly fascinated. Every time I log in, every time we talk, we could do this and we can do that. And this is another big question for you, StarLink. We've got 10,000 or so satellites orbiting the planet, beaming WI fi or wireless down, most of which is probably not really good for our biology. So why do you even test this in a world where people are getting irradiated by Starlink?
Philippe
See, that's a great point. Because the Starlink is being put up pretty much everywhere. They're creating this artificial electromagnetic grid and shield all around the Earth and there won't be any escaping anymore from this. So you will always be hit by energies that stress your system and on multiple different levels. We talked about that, right? It has an impact, a measurable impact on a lot of parts of the body in the short term. And of course, if you accumulate it in the long run, you know, we don't even want to talk about it. Right? So the good thing about our technology is it, it doesn't care whether it's 5G or 4G or Wi Fi or microwave. And it doesn't care if it's Starlink. It takes care of it. There are nuances. You know, I don't know if people have heard of haarp, for example. You know, that's a much harder nut to crack. And we, we cracked it though about, I would say a year and a half ago. And these capabilities are already built in now. You shouldn't sleep like in a harp field probably. I don't think that would, I would recommend that. But you know, just the regular levels there, there is support and I think that's, that's a good thing because we, we can then leverage the technology but still maintain our inherent, really great human vibration without being completely bombarded with this stress.
Dave Asprey
It sounds too good to be true. So how do you respond when people say that just can't be.
Philippe
Yeah. So, you know, if someone is really curious, I always, and people will know this when I'm at conferences, I really take the time to walk them through, to explain it, walk them through the science. And if they're truly curious, you know, maybe we find a way to include them in a study or they can do some live testing, you know, nowadays at conferences. By the way, also at your conference, we'll offer some live testing so people
Dave Asprey
can see it beyond biohacking.com guys May 27th or 29th in Austin.
Philippe
Yes. And then if, you know, if someone is not curious but they just want to talk bad about it because they feel their identity is threatened or their worldview is threatened by what we do, then at some point, I don't waste my time. I don't need to waste my time. I don't have to prove it to anyone anymore. Proven it already, like over and over again. Then I say $50,000. Bet you go. We pay for your flight to go to this institute, do this. And if you don't want to bet 50,000, I'll bet you 10,000, I'll bet you 5,000, bet you whatever you want, and we'll do it. And people don't do it because I think they know this works. They just, maybe just a handful of people may not want to realize that it works because it may indeed change their worldview. Because what does that mean? It means we're energy beings, and someone that doesn't want to go there mentally has a hard time with that. But everyone else that's a little bit more open or understands also, or at least has heard that we're energy to begin with. I mean, for them, it's a cool thing because, hey, there's, there's one thing I've come to understand is in life there's always more to learn and there's always more to heal. It never stops. Even if you know so much already, there's always more to learn. And I think that's one of the fascinating parts of life also.
Dave Asprey
All right, speaking of that, kids. So are kids more sensitive or less sensitive? How do you work with quantum upgrading kids?
Philippe
Yeah, kids have actually a really, really great reaction to the quantum upgrade because even more so than adults, they still develop their brains they still, you know, develop their whole physiology in a different way. And if they get stressed, and if their brains get stressed by electromagnetic fields and they're constantly on their phones, on their iPads, on their gaming, right. It is so bad because they can't really develop in a, in a normal way anymore. So if you provide them with a field that harmonizes these negative frequencies and puts them into a coherent field, which is their original nature, then they can develop in the way they're meant to. And so it is very, very powerful. I can say that. And then talking about even more little ones, those would be dogs, for example, very, very powerful. We tend to forget that these stressors that were exposed to all the cats and dogs and other animals are exposed to as well. That's why you see cancer rates going through the roof for cats and for dogs and all these issues. Right. It's never been worse. And there was a study done with 30 dogs randomized and double blind. 15 in the control group, 15 in the treated group. It ran for 12 months in Europe, and it was with absolutely significant results. They had four different testing methods. One was the western traditional veterinarian diagnostics. One was lifeblood analysis, the other one was the advanced decaval method. And the fourth one was surveys of the pet owners. But again, it was randomized and double blind. The pet owners didn't know if their pet was even on the quantum upgrade or not. And guess what? The results were remarkable. Across the board, you see the blood improve significantly, pretty much the same thing that you would see in humans. A reduction in parasitic load, blood clotting, reversal, you know, all these things. Then the veterinarian diagnostics showed the same thing. The surveys showed pets were happier, they had less anxiety, their digestion worked better. Those are like the three on top of my head right now. And, and people where the quantum upgrade wasn't on for their pets, they did not report these things. Right. So it's quite remarkable. And, well, too good to be true. Yeah, maybe it's a little bit too good to be true in a world where the world is just filled with negativity and with chaos and all these different things. And we're sort of used to a healthcare system that dumps stuff on us that doesn't make things better. Right. You go treat depression in a mainstream way and you end up with 10 more symptoms six months later. You know, that's not, you know, you get depressed even from hearing those stories. So when there's something there that. And there's a lot of stuff in the biohacking world. Right. That where you would say that's too good to be true. Red light therapy. I mean, that's also too good to be true in a way. Right. But it's phenomenal. It works. And why not do it? It's just, it's so simple. Some of the most powerful things don't have to be so complicated.
Dave Asprey
Yeah. The. One of the reasons I like quantum upgrades, I travel all the time. You know, traveling with. With more stuff doesn't always work very well. So there's the portable block and the pendants and I can just turn on the remote service. So I, I was. I'm a fan, a true believer. I've. I've seen too many people have great benefits to not and I'm. I'm particularly impressed, which is your commitment to doing research on it, which is one of the reasons I want to have you back on the show now. Guys, listening. 15 days, no credit card. You can actually try what Fleet's been working on for the past 10 plus years, what I've done extensively. And if you don't like it, you can just get a full refund. So actually there's no refunds. Didn't take a credit card. You subscribe after you like it. Exactly. So he's very confident because it actually works. So. Thanks again for coming back on the show, Philippe. It's. It's always an honor to get to meet with someone who's really walking the walk. Right. You're. You're doing it. And there's a lot of people in this space who would take advantage. I don't think that's how you are. And certainly I think the technology definitely works. So thanks for making it. See you next time on the Human Upgrade podcast.
Philippe
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Episode 1462: iPhone Poisoning Is REAL: Here's How To Reverse the Hidden Damage | Quantum Upgrade
Guest: Philippe (Philipp von Holtzendorff-Fehling, Founder, Leela Quantum Tech & Quantum Upgrade)
Date: May 7, 2026
Theme: Exploring the measurable biological and energetic impacts of modern electromagnetic fields (EMFs)—from iPhones to Starlink to Tesla—and whether “quantum energy” interventions (Quantum Upgrade) can mitigate their harm, improve resilience, and even support neurological development.
Dave Asprey hosts Philippe von Holtzendorff-Fehling, returning to discuss the latest science and real-world feedback on Leela Quantum Tech’s “Quantum Upgrade”—a distance quantum energy system purported to harmonize harmful EMF and wireless technology effects. They discuss the dangers of modern electromagnetic pollution (from phones, Wi-Fi, cars, and satellites), scientific studies on quantum field interventions, experimental trials with neurofeedback, support for children and animals, and practical user guidance for “quantum upgrades.” The episode balances scientific rigor, anecdotal evidence, and big-picture critiques of biohacking in the wireless/digital age.
| Time | Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:18 | Dave on why energy/quantum fields challenge scientific models | | 06:08 | Philippe explains Quantum Upgrade and how it works | | 08:03 | Number & type of studies/publication status | | 09:35 | How the tech was developed & challenge to skeptics | | 12:53 | Third-party EEG experiment with Dr. Drew’s team | | 17:20 | Results: 13x alpha wave boost; EEG findings | | 18:13 | Electric cars, EMF studies, and gigahertz harmonization | | 22:01 | Review of different scientific methods (EEG, HRV, dark field, etc) | | 25:31 | Children with autism: clinical study and “Spectrum” application | | 32:22 | User setup: day/night, frequency selection, boosters explained | | 35:16 | Starlink and the growing electromagnetic “grid” problem | | 36:49 | On skepticism, empirical challenge, philosophy toward critics | | 39:02 | Effects on children and pets, discussion of relevant studies | | 42:24 | Portable usage, travel, and user experience |
Original Episode Language/Tone:
Openly speculative, optimistic, empirically curious, sometimes technical, occasionally mystical, and always attempting to ground extraordinary claims in repeatable science. This episode epitomizes Dave Asprey’s signature blend of adventure, skepticism, and relentless quest for “the human upgrade.”