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We won't be able to tear down the 5G towers. And guess what? 6G and 7G is already out there and people just don't know it. We have Starlink all over the world being established, so we will have to live in this EMF soup.
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There's 1000 plus studies showing EMFs cause harm to the human biofield, to our mitochondria, to all sorts of different systems. Philip Samor Von Holtzendorf Feeling is a former vice president at T Mobile International and T Mobile US who left the corporate world to explore the science of energy and consciousness. Over two decades he trained in shamanic and energy healing practices. His work has been featured in university led studies showing measurable changes in cellular ATP, brainwave activity and EMF resilience.
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We can't run around in just silver clothing and silver hats to block us off because then we also block off the native EMFs. So our solution is amazing for humanity. Can even reverse stage one and stage two of blood clotting within five to 10 minutes it can activate your white blood cells.
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What changes in brain waves have you seen from wearing the. You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey. How did you come about knowing you could do this? How did you invent Lila Quantum?
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So it really came out of me understanding how some of the most amazing healers in the world operate. Because when I got into all of this I learned from people obviously, but then I wanted to find the best ones out there. So I was on this journey to find them and to figure out how they work. And all of them work with the quantum field and with specific frequencies. And if not, people don't understand what I mean? It even starts with a shaman drumming the drum because what, what do they do? They take you onto a journey. It's a frequency journey so that your frequency state changes because of the drumming and that is a frequency and everything has frequency. And then the idea was okay, so what if we could provide products that can deliver a concentrated quantum field 24,7 and then what if we could combine it with frequencies? Right. So similar to how a shaman would do it. And that's how it originated. And then we developed it and you know, thankfully it, it wasn't just me on my own I would have come far, but definitely not as far as we have come because we, we work with some very, very gifted people together. Some pretty amazing scientists on one hand, but also with some people that have X men like capabilities. And when I say that, I don't use that lightly and I'M not talking about someone that can jump like, I don't know, 200ft high or spit fire. I'm talking about the ability to look at each and every frequency in a very granular level. I give you one example. So one of the guys we work with, and it's a whole team, his name is Roman Hafner, and he was born with the ability to see each and every frequency in a super granular level. He can look into the molecular structure of everything, and he does not even need to be present in order to do that because his brain is always 100% on and only for a nanosecond in between, it shuts off completely and is then back on. So, yeah, it's a very interesting capability.
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As you know, I've been studying people's brains, people who do really big things in the world at 40 years of Zen. And there are some people, their brains are not like the rest of us and they do really big things. And it's because they're just wired differently. And it kind of makes sense. We have these people who can dunk, but not everyone can dunk. And we have people who are super tasters. We have people who can see more color than other people and others who are colorblind. So some people have different powers of perception, and it's trainable. And we've been working on this for thousands of years in almost every ancient lineage. And you have to be able to take all of that and throw it away in order to say, I don't believe that there's anything else going on here. And none of that is possible because it's impossible. And it's actually a very weird mental loop to not be curious about it. And I know some of these people as well. These are teachable skills, they're measurable skills. Dean Radin's written a book about it. So for people who are skeptical that this is possible, you have to really deliberately ignore a large body of evidence in order to do it. Similarly, with EMFs causing harm, there's a thousand plus studies showing EMFs cause harm to the human biofield, to our mitochondria, to all sorts of different systems. We know at least one mechanism of action that's very, very well understood called voltage gated calcium channels. We can measure the effects on blood flow, like this is real. But there are people who get really angry. And just one sign, if you get angry over something that you don't agree with, it's not that you're thinking, it's that you're programmed because when someone says something you don't agree with and you're not angry now, you're just curious, like, well, either it's wrong or it's right, but if it's, that's wrong and you're a bad person, that means you're the person who needs therapy, right? Not the person who disagreed with you. So talk about EMFs. Some of the bigger claims and the things you've been able to prove very substantially with Lila Quantum is that you can change the effects of EMFs on people. How do you know that you're doing that?
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It's very simple because you can measure it. So like you said, there are unfortunately quite negative effects on the human body and not the human body alone. Also the animal bodies, the plants, everything that's a biological organism is hit by that and has high harmful impacts to carry. And you can measure that, you can measure it in short term within seconds. You can see it in the brain within seconds. So if anyone wants to do that, you know, just do a brain scan and then in an electromagnetic free room, see how it's looking like, and then put your, put your phone there and you'll see that your brain waves suddenly are in a box. If you have really good equipment or I mean there's good and bad equipment, but I mean, let's say advanced equipment that can look into the brain like an MRT, that would be a 256 channel EEG. That's what was used to run our latest studies in, in Germany. Then you can look deep into the limbic system and you can see one thing, that all of the phones of the latest generation, I don't want to name names here, they attack the limbic system already within seconds. It used to be.
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What are they doing to the limbic system?
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Yeah, so for people out there, and of course you know this, but in the limbic system, that's the. Where the whole autonomic nervous system basically is. Yeah. Orchestrated and steered. So including our heartbeat, including our breath. Right. It's sort of our sacred system and it gets attacked in a way that everything gets stressed in the limbic system. So you see brain activity that's linked to stress rise up significantly and then the alpha activity in the limbic system gets destroyed. And you know, with, with our technology we can prove that we can completely neutralize all of that. So, and more so we've been able to show to increase the alpha activity in the limbic system by 13x. 13x. That's not a typo or anything. It's Quite significant. So it's so significant that the people doing the research that are among the top experts in Europe running this type of research, they certainly didn't think this could work in the beginning, right? But of course, now they know that it works, and it's quite phenomenal because it's a good message for people, because we won't be able to tear down the 5G towers. And guess what? 6G and 7G is already out there, and people just don't know it. So don't think it's getting better. It's getting worse. We have Starlink all over the world being established, so we will have to live in this EMF soup. And we can't run around in just silver clothing and silver hats to block us off, because then we also block off the native EMFs. So our solution is amazing for humanity. And I'm not understating that, because you can still leverage all the signals, but you don't have the negative effects. And you also do not block out the native electromagnetic fields that are so beneficial to us, and you can use that for your pets as well. So I think it's actually quite cool what we've developed. No surprise, certainly, that we're not already in every TV channel in the world, because certainly there's a big, big industry, right? There's a big industry that fears lawsuits, and that's why they don't yet agree that it's all bad. But that shift will come because one thing is true, that once someone understands the issues of electromagnetic fields and that they're there, they won't unlearn that. And so that mass of people is increasing every year. And at some point, it'll be so big that, that there will be one telco operator that will have to say, okay, the evidence is so big, we did not know. Sorry, we did not know. We can't be sued. But moving forward, now that there's so much evidence, we'll come out with solutions. So that day will come and we're ready for it. So with our blocks, for example, the way it works is that they're infused with highly concentrated quantum energy. These plates, right? I mean, I don't have a block handy right now. They're all over my house, but not in near distance. So I have to show to people they have one or three plates on the bottom, one or three plates on the top.
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All right, I just grabbed this out of the bag that I travel with all the time. First of all, I found a little case. I think I got it for free. On some airline that holds my Leela quantum block.
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That is awesome. That's the travel block. And so while you're unpacking this, I can tell people again. So if you have two magnets in your hands, some point you feel a magnetic force field. And that's the same principle. When you align these plates in a somewhat parallel fashion and they're not too far away from each other, they can be quite far, but not too far. Then you have a quantum force field and that is exactly what's happening. And when Dave will show that here in a second, you will see how that works. And that has a super concentrated quantum space inside between the plates. And everything you put inside gets instantly infused with pure natural quantum energy. And then it has quite significant effects. There you see it? Yeah. So that's the smallest version we have. Now. It's also available in round because we just launched a new one that Dave doesn't have yet. But Dave will get one.
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You're going to send it to me. So you, you could look at this and go, it is literally some pieces of metal. But like you said, if you have two magnets, you're setting up a field right in the middle of this. Right. And how far does that field extend.
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The actual core where you can infuse even metals with quantum energy and then they stay inside the metal or in foods. That's really inside the plates. But the regular quantum field extends far out and in that radius it can also still harmonize electromagnetic fields. And I'll say in a second how that works. So this little one there even covers a, I would say a small to regular sized home. Right. So it, it depends a little bit on where you live. If you're surrounded by 5G towers, then you may want to get our big superblock.
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I have the super block downstairs, but this is with me on airplanes. It's in my hotel rooms, which is why. And it doesn't have to be vertical either. It can be sideways. It doesn't matter.
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It totally doesn't matter. So you can put it to the side and then put a small water bottle inside for ex. And so it works on a below subatomic level. And it can. Basically the analogy is if you hit me in the face, it hurts. If you give me an acupressure, it's beneficial. So it's always the same person that's, you know, doing something to me. But one is beneficial, the other one is not. And so it is with frequencies. So when the detrimental waveform patterns get basically, you know, infused with the quantum energy, then they transform into something that is not harmful anymore. So it doesn't stress your system at that point and it can be measured. That's the most important thing. It's not just some fluff, it's not some talk. It changes your blood and blood, you know, what do I mean by that? It can even reverse stage one and stage two of blood clotting within five to 10 minutes. It can activate your white blood cells, it can reduce parasitic load to quite some degr. There was even a randomized double blind study showing that I rarely ever talk about, but now I think we can, that showed that in that control group, it was a six month study and in the treated group there were vaccinated and non vaccinated people in both groups. And the only group where there were no traces of the spike protein was the treated group that was treated with our technology and it didn't matter again whether they were vaccinated or not. And in the control group everyone showed traces of the spike protein throughout the whole study. So there is a lot there. And then if we go into water, you mentioned the new water research. Right. So that's quite significant. People may know.
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We gotta pause for a second before we talk about water. When you say they were treated with quantum, how were they treated?
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Yeah. So you can do it two ways. One is that the quantum upgrade can be used as an example. It would provide you with a field that really improves your blood instantly. And it continues to do that as long as you have it on. And then there's specific settings that you can even use to increase that. In that study the just basic settings were used or you can use a block. So there are effects, positive effects on the blood also with the capsule, you.
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Know, people just put your hand in the block. Right?
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You could do that. Yeah, exactly. And then the only limitation is at some point that you can't have your hand there all the time. But as long as you're surrounded already by it, you have always some benefit. And even the capsule also has benefits, certainly in regards to electromagnetic fields on your blood and blood flow, on brain waves, et cetera.
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What changes in brain waves have you seen from wearing the capsule pendant?
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So we have not done any study with a 256 channel EEG. So we just saw regular, let's say increasing calmness and more cognitive ability and a reduction in anxiety that was measured. So I don't, you know, I'm not going to claim big studies here with a, with a heal capsule on the brain because the research really on the brain, which is currently massive, that we're. That we're undertaking there. But that's all focused on the blocks and the quantum upgrade.
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Let's talk about water. And I want to preface this. There is something called exclusion zone water, and I ended up funding some of the research at the University of Washington. If you put butter or MCT oil in liquid and blend it into small droplets, it changes the water in a way that you can see on a microscope. It is a physical change in the state of the water. But we also have the ability to put information in water. And this is something homeopathy has shown for many, many years. Despite the war on it from big pharma. Homeopathy has good science behind it. So it's possible to put information in water. Is lilo quantum different than homeopathy and what are you doing to the water?
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Yes, it is different. And so we can do two different things with water. One is that. That we can just structure it and energetically optimize it. That's just. If you put the water.
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What does that mean, though? Like, energetically optimize water? I don't understand that as an engineer or as a. Even from a shamanic perspective.
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What.
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What does that mean?
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So the energetically optimized. I said that on purpose because that's sort of what the Emoto Institute tests. And that was already done over three years ago with our weakest device, where they were amazed how our weakest device could change and improve water faster than any other method they'd ever tested before. And since that day, they've been reselling our products exclusively in Japan. So Hiro Emoto, the son of Mazaru Emot. Um, I'll actually be on a zoom with him this Friday.
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For listeners, you've probably seen this somewhere online. Emoto did this research showing that if you send mean thoughts to water and then you freeze it, it makes these broken ice crystals that are chaotic. And then if you send good energy, just you love the water or think the water, and then you freeze it magically, you get these beautiful structures. So there's a measurable difference in this. And you can repeat it over and over. So they did research with your device, and they found that they were getting the beautiful crystals when they froze in.
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Exactly. So out of one beautiful crystal in the control water, the quantum block, again, it's the weakest device, made five beautiful crystals out of it in just three minutes, which is phenomenal. So that's that. Then we had some people come and say, that's not scientific enough for us. And those were probably those engineers that didn't know anything about Mazaru Emoto and also want to just stick with their narrative. So we said, okay, so what else could we do? Yeah, you could run the redox potential and nothing is going to change. So interestingly then we had a chemist lab in Germany that looked at the redox potential of water and they ran, I think 10 or 12 samples. And each time on different days, by the way, also each time they put it in the block, the redox potential changed. And it didn't just change, it optimized. So it made the water way better and it even had more antimicrobial properties. So that's quite interesting. And then, and this is the sort of latest study on the water that was done as a triple blind study done by the Bayon Institute in Tallinn. And this will be published hopefully in the next two, three months. So they, they were absolutely amazed. So they looked at the superblog and attested that and it showed significant results. It was so positive that they literally wrote in the study. And you, you will know this, right? So if you run a study, you're really careful in how you write the observation and you leave a lot of things open. And yeah, to be further investigation. All these words, right, they are usually put in studies. They literally wrote, so if you drink this water, this optimized water, your body gets into homeostasis. So that is what they wrote in the study report. And so it is quite significant because you can really optimize water. And it's not just an energetic thing. It can be physically measured.
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I have a much bigger, the triple block downstairs. If I put a glass of water on top of this, will it still work? Do I have to put it in the middle?
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Okay, so that's a good question. And the thing is that water, unlike metals, for example, or shoes or electronics, is very receptive to energy. So you would indeed get a charge if you put it on top. You will get a better charge when you put it inside. But if you want to charge your shoes, your running shoes for example, or infuse them with frequencies with our block, you would have to put them inside because the plastic wouldn't be able to take it on if you just put it on top.
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Why would I ever want to charge my running shoes?
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So I could tell you that, and I'm glad you're asking this because it leads us to some very important stuff. So clothing, right? So most people wear clothing that is inherently bad for our system or plastic and stuff yeah, it supports disease state. And you can test that. Everyone that's an expert in kinesiology, for example, you don't need a device to test that. You will be able to test that. And there are certain fabrics, like linen, for example, that are really beneficial, and most of them are not. Especially. The athletic clothing is really bad for us. But if you put it in the block after that, it's beneficial. And every kinesiologist will test that for you.
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How long does it have to be in there and how long does it last?
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About a minute, I would say, is enough. And if you want to just have it last longer and be stronger, I would say, you know, put it in for three minutes and then you're absolutely good to go. And then now there's the trick, right, that was most people don't know. With our technology, you can copy each and every frequency that exists as well. So if you're an athlete, you could get our world champion frequency card as an example, and then you could copy that frequency with the quantum energy into your athletic shirt, into your pants, into your, I don't know, whatever, into your running shoes. And you have that frequency vibrating there. And it does make a difference because then it's not just a better fabric to wear energetically. You have a specific frequency that supports you while you're running. And you could do the same thing with your pajama and put the common rest frequency in there, as an example, or whatever. You know, you have your favorite supplements. Just put your favorite supplements in there. I mean, whatever you want, you can do with it.
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If I do it one time on my socks, are they good forever?
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Yeah, if you do the three minutes and it's not the quantum block. So the quantum block is very weak. So that charge isn't that strong.
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So you would have to go, this is weak.
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Well, no, this is. This is okay. Actually, you got a relatively powerful one, but you're going to get the more powerful one. So that one would. Would be better to use. And then also the infinity block and the super block, those are the ones that are really strong. If you put your socks in there, it lasts. And it doesn't really matter if you wash them or even dry them afterwards, the energy still stays in. Now, if it's regular socks, there is not a big field, right, because it's not infused with metals. If there was silver in there, then it has a larger field. So it's not big. It doesn't support your whole system. But at least on your feet, you will get these benefits.
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We Measure those benefits how?
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Well, again, so you have all kinds of different testing methods. You could use an advanced decaval device. You could, you know, do blood testing. Right. You could do kinesiology testing. You could possibly, you know, measure the brain ways. I mean, I would actually not be surprised, you know, if you were to just put on a different head or a different T shirt that is charged that you would see instantly changes in brainwaves. I mean, we've tested it with glasses, right? With glasses that we infuse with the brain support frequency and suddenly you have.
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More cognitive abilities to do this with the truedarks.
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Yeah, sure, yeah, we're happy to do it. We're happy to do. This is maybe the time where I can say this. Most people have not understood. What we have is not a product. It's a key technology. It can be leveraged almost in any industry. And there are supplements you. You can infuse with quantum energy. You can even if you have a supplement for better sleep, you could even on top of that, infuse it with a common rest frequency or some other frequency, you know, some hertz frequency that's positive for sleep or whatever you want. You can have cosmetics that you infuse with that glasses that can be infused with. With another frequency. So that's the frequency medicine that Einstein talked about, right? The future of medicine will be the medicine of frequencies. And. And guess what? We're here. And I know you know that, but most people out there, they. I don't think they've understood yet that the world has already changed.
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The world is way more complex and interesting than I once thought it was. And there's. There's two reasons that I'm such a big supporter. Well, more than 2 of the work you're doing. When you sent me the first quantum block a long, long time ago, I didn't really get the. Here's what to do with it. So it sat in a drawer for a while, and then I finally put it together and I put it on the counter. And I think my assistant had got two different sets of flowers, the same kind of flower. They're roses. One guilt set on top of the quantum block, and the other one was set a few feet away. And the one on top of the quantum block, they just never died. Like three weeks later, they were kind of dry, but there were still usable roses. And the other ones were long dead. And I'm like, what is going on with this? And I have the infinity block downstairs, and I have a bamboo plant on top of it. And that thing is just vibrant and growing all the time and it doesn't die like any other plant would in my house. I think it makes a noticeable difference. So that was one I inadvertently AB tested. And then the second time I had one of your cards. These are little metal cards that are charged with specific frequencies. And this was, I think DNA protection or something. And I just had it in my left cargo pocket for probably a month and a half. One of my highly spiritual shamanic friends came in and said, I'm trying to figure out what's going on with you. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, well, on the left side of your body, your energy field is really different than the right. And I haven't seen anything like this and I can't figure out what's causing it. And so I thought it was, I have no idea what that is. And then I reached in my pocket, like, oh, wait, and I took the card out and I set it down on the desk. And then she looks at me and she goes, oh, now your field's back to the way it was before. Like, what is that thing and how is it doing that? So she didn't know that the tech existed or that I had in my pocket. So I don't think this was placebo because it couldn't have been. So there is an effect. And what I've learned with different energetic things, I've learned in monasteries and caves and places like that. And even at 40 years of Zen, there's a whole bunch of stuff in the world that we're entirely blind to, but it is there. And there is something. There's. There's a definite effect from Lila Quantum, and those are my observations. And then you have these dozens of studies where you're saying, well, let's look at blood flow, our blood cells sticking together and brain waves. And at a certain point you have to be a really hard headed skeptic to say, I will ignore all the evidence that doesn't agree with my picture of reality. That would be unscientific. So if you're scientific, you got to say, the models I use for reality are useful, but there may be other models that are more complex that are also useful or at least are valid. And I'm there with quantum reality at a certain point. That is the most descriptive model of reality we've come up with. It's just hard to see. Right. And so I still have a little bit of question and I understand you're not going to tell me how do you get the Quantum frequencies in there. That's part of your proprietary attack. I know we've talked about this over coffee and on the show before, but I gotta say, there's something going on here.
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Yes, that's true. And you know, I must say we don't bump into many people at all anymore that are now saying, well, this doesn't work anymore. We used to. But now they've all come along because they looked at more and more research. And as I said, we always took it as an interesting challenge. Right, to see, okay, what else can we test? How else could we prove it and what else is out there? And you know, the last part that we can then say is just to someone, okay, so if you're then still not. Have you looked through all the research, but you still don't want to, then leave us alone, live your life, or just move your butt over to one of our next studies and just see with your eyes. And that's what we've done with a few people actually, where we said, hey, you can do that now. An interesting one, actually. And that. That wasn't like this. But health uncensored with Dr. Drew just had me on already a couple times, and. And they didn't think what we do could work, so they sent a whole team out to this institute in Germany with 256 channel EEG. And the. The whole team ended up signing up their whole family, like literally within 10 minutes after seeing what was going on, because they saw what an iPhone 16 does, and they had, I think, two times world boxing champion Natalie Zimmerman there to be tested. They saw what was going on with the brainwaves of the iPhone 16. Then they saw it with our. What our tech could do, and when you see it, it's pretty powerful.
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Where are you taking this, though? I mean, is this going to be like an intravenous infusion? Can I put a Leela quantum chip under my skin and become a Leela quantum cyborg? Like, what do we do next? How do you make it easier?
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Yeah, I'm not such a fan of microchipping at all. And so. But there are two big things that we're working on as a Leela Quantum, and one is, you know, we've already developed a year and a half ago specific eye drops that are absolutely beneficial for the eyes. I mean, I don't have to wear glasses or contacts anymore when I play tennis and, you know, I play semi professional and I used to wear contacts already 15 years ago, and I got worse each year, and it's completely gone. And These eye drops are with. They carry DMSO and saline solution and you know, to give you the. The major two ingredients by. By itself, that has already some remarkable benefits. But then we infuse it with specific frequencies that open the third eye. That's the more energetic part. And then that really help you with the vision and the eye muscles and pretty much every part of the eyes and your energy friends, they will tell you when you put the eye drops in that your eyes literally start to light up. And so we're just working around the fact that there's an issue releasing them as Lila Quantum Tech because the FDA even pulled homeopathic eye drops off the market. You know, there's a war on homeopathics all over the world. In Germany, they try to forbid homeopathics and things like that. So we decided to not release it. And they will be released pretty soon, but not under Lila Quantum Tech. But there will be an interesting way. And then that will come with a whole pipeline of products because we do have ingestibles, several. And we have lots of different amazing frequencies. Right. There are cosmetic sprays that we already have built and things like that. But we will release them under that umbrella. And the other part is that we have created some frequencies and now that's more the quantum upgrade part. But I do want to share because it shows a little bit of the vision and what we're working on. We've developed some frequencies that. Okay, I'm not going to say what they do, but we with intention to help with Alzheimer's and dementia and with Parkinson with als. And we're currently working on osteoporosis and also diabetics. And we are very much aware that these are medical sort of applications. That's why we're not releasing any of this to anyone. We're doing our own testing and we already are quite far in knowing what these frequencies can do. By the way, Lyme disease is another one. A clinical trial in the US just started last week in regards to that. And we are currently exploring what are the ways on doing the pre testing and then possibly doing a spin off where you say, okay, well this is clearly medical because you can't even talk about it, right. Unless you use medical language or disease language. Right. So put it into this entity and then just say, okay, this just goes for the regular clinical trials. As long as the system is as it is, we'll just do it that way. But we, we have a lot of capabilities in that regard. And yeah, and we've gotten Also better every year in what we do. Wow.
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I'm. I'm excited. I think there's. There's a lot of efficacy for this, and there's a lot of ways to kind of bring it into the world. I would love to see more studies, Philip, about if you charge something, maybe based on what material it is, how long does the charge stay and the effects of that. I'd love to see more on the biological effects of drinking the water that you are optimizing using Leela Quantum. And I know you've done a lot of work with the Quantum Upgrade service, which is kind of a. It's a. I guess, a different company. This is the remote thing, and that's one where a lot of people are saying, oh, come on. Like, that can't be real. There are many people who can do remote healing work that is very tangible. And there's studies after study. Dean Radin's work is probably the most comprehensive. Joe Dispenza has shown evidence from remote healing with groups of eight people. Lynne McTaggart wrote a book on this. So here's the thing. If people can do it, is there any reason that we couldn't make a technology that also does it? It's actually kind of obvious, right? Imagine if, like, way back in the day, they're like, well, the only way to make fire is to rub sticks together. Only people can do that. And then someone walks around with a Bic lighter and they're like, that can't exist. Exactly, because it's not rubbing sticks together. So this is just technology, evolution. But. But I think you're doing something that's super cool, and I'm really happy that you can come on the show and talk about it and just be a little bit more open about what's happening and with the future. And I think this is some cool stuff. It's some of the coolest stuff out there right now in the world of biohacking.
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The other thing is that I just launched my first book, so I'm super happy that I did. It's finally out there. I've been working on it for quite some time, and I wanted to at least tell people about it.
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Yeah, let's talk about your book. And then I have a question for you about it. But tell me about the book.
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Yeah, it's called the Energy of Everything. Rediscovering Vitality Through Quantum Wellness. So, again, the Energy of Everything. And I go into this, you know, more ancient times, where we already had healers and quantum healing in ancient times. And how does it relate to the modern times? And I, you know, take people on this journey a little bit. I take them also on the journey of some research and some findings that we have and the possibilities. So I think it's an interesting read for some people and I wanted to at least mention that you can get it on Amazon.
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Did you turn the Quantum Upgrade service on for the book itself?
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It will happen today. And it will happen today because it literally the launch date is today. And yeah, I didn't want to put it on beforehand, but as it launches, yes. And let's see if we can make it an Amazon bestseller. If it does, then it's out there. And if it doesn't, okay, well, then maybe it wasn't powerful enough. But let's see.
B
It sounds a little out there to people, but yeah, you can put the remote service on an object or a location or whatever, and it's different than using the hardware tech that creates a field. This is the remote one. But it's unlikely to cause harm. And you've got some studies that show it can help, at least biology. I don't think you have any studies where you can a B test, you know, two books to see if one performed better than the other. But think of it like sending it good vibes, I think is a good way to do it. I do have a question about the service, though, because you log in for the Quantum Upgrade service and when you turn it on, it has an on off button and it says pause next to the button. So if you turn on the button, does that mean you're pausing it or that you're turning it off? Like you have a user interface problem?
A
Yeah, so. And by the way, that that is changing, I think as we speak, it may change this. This week we've been working on UI changes for, I think, 10 or 11 months. And you know how that is when there's a complex system, it takes some time until it's finally released. And it's also coming in phases, not everything at once. Yeah, I'm aware of that. It is, though. If you click, if you check it, then it's green. And then it's literally, that's the pause button. Then it's on pause. And once you update it, you also see it, if you control it, it'll say in red letters, on hold. It's on hold. So there's no energy flowing anymore. So it should be at that point relatively obvious to people. If you do the cross check, of course. So. But yeah, don't check that button. If you want it to run.
B
I mean, the button should be off if you want it to run.
A
Exactly. If you want it to run, it should be off. Yes.
B
Very cool. Yeah. I was like, okay, I've been meaning to tell you that forever, but now we got to talk about it on here. And I literally have this set up running on each of my businesses. I have it running on my home and running on myself. So it works.
A
Yeah. And so what people don't know is right, because we rarely ever talk about it, but we have a couple pretty cool frequencies and an abundance frequency frequency and a prosperity frequency. And that certainly comes in handy, I mean, for an individual oftentimes, but certainly for businesses. And this prosperity frequency is incredibly powerful. So I always recommend if businesses, business owners ask me, okay, what should be the settings? Okay, put it for 14 hours, do the daytime for 14 hours, put it on prosperity, do a booster with prosperity, and during the night, just put it on abundance on a little bit lower energy. And that's about the settings. And we will run studies in regards to that at some point because we, we know it works and we have gotten also tremendous feedback that it works really well. And of course you can, you can run studies at some point. It's not as black or white as brain scans and blood work, but we need to get into this because it's an interesting field and we always want to show what we can do.
B
There's something that I've learned just in the world of the world of shamanic stuff and even in the world of tech. So playing a role in the creation of Web 1.0 actually was the first data center company. We made some cool stuff and then some people turned it into a surveillance platform that's maybe not always serving the world. They built social media on top of it. Like, gross. Of all the things you could have done, is there a possibility of misusing quantum energy?
A
So not our technology, so I don't know about other technologies out there, but our technology. You know, the worst thing that someone could do if they stole our technology is blast someone with peace. Pretty much. But yeah. So the nature of this super concentrated quantum field is that it neutralizes and harmonizes everything that's harmful or destructive to life and consciousness on an energetic level. So if, you know, even the quantum upgrade system, which, you know, obviously it is very powerful and it works remote, but even that, if someone had it and they wanted to broadcast a pesticide frequency as an example, it just wouldn't work. So that's to that. Yeah. And with a block Obviously you know the same thing. Right. So you, you could try to hurt yourself, right. And say, okay, well, let me put my hand in the block and I'll, I'll take a glass of glyphosate and put it in there as well and just see if I can just suck it in. But it's not going to work because the quantum field neutralizes that frequency. Right. So if you, if you put a frankincense in there, though, that frequency gets distributed because that's a beneficial frequency.
B
Got it. So it's, it's not likely to be misused. And there probably are. In fact, I, I won't even say probably. I know how to do it. There are absolutely ways you can use quantum level interventions to, to attack other people. It's what, what in the old days they would call sorcery and there are people who practice that kind of stuff. And now this is getting way off into the land of walking through the jungle on plant medicines. If I'm using the quantum upgrade or I've got Lila quantum, does it have any effect on negative intentions from other people?
A
Yes, it absolutely does. Yep. So, for example, even, you know, I mean, maybe this is not the show to talk about it, but I mean, let's, let's call it negative energies, because there are negative energies that can come from all kinds of, they can come from thoughts, they can come from people wishing you something bad or just, I don't know, even subconsciously, someone may just be triggered by you and hit something your way. Right. So the highly concentrated quantum field of, let's say the quantum upgrade is already an inherent buffer of that. And if there are dark energies, they, they can't really exist in, in, in, in that high vibration. If there are really targeted dark energy attacks, let's say that way, then we have a little bit different situation. If it's really targeted and, and orchestrated, then we have a frequency that's called multidimensional protection. So if you ever feel, oh, okay, so maybe this is a night where I want to just be more protected because you have this intuitive feeling, put it on multidimensional protection at night and that just takes care of it. And I'm not talking about, you know, directed energy weapons. You know, that's something where that technology can't, you know, it can still support your body, but it's, it's, that's a different level and that's something we, we also can't defend against. But yeah, you just need a blue umbrella.
B
You'll be fine.
A
All right. Or take two blogs and just.
B
That's right. Yeah. Like. Like some kind of Avengers thing. Philip, you're doing some really interesting work in the world. I appreciate your friendship, appreciate all the. All the stuff you're willing to talk about and to back up with hard research, the stuff that usually attracts the angriest detractors. But I think you're overcoming that resistance. And you've got stuff that works to the point that I've flown hundreds of times with this in my bag. Right. So I am a believer in Leela Quantum. You guys can go to Leela Q.com Dave and there's a special landing page for you. It's like it's the real deal. So thank you.
A
Thank you, Dave, for having me on.
B
See you next time on the Human Upgrade Podcast.
C
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Podcast: The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance
Host: Dave Asprey
Guest: Philip Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling (Founder of Leela Quantum Tech)
Episode Number: 1355
Date: October 31, 2025
This episode explores how quantum field technology might protect humans from the growing presence of EMFs (Electromagnetic Fields), optimize health, and potentially reverse certain harmful biological processes. Dave Asprey hosts Philip Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling, a former T-Mobile executive turned quantum technology innovator, to discuss the science, studies, and practical uses of products from Leela Quantum Tech—ranging from devices that "infuse" objects and water with quantum energy to remote service upgrades purported to harmonize spaces and shield from negative frequencies. The conversation balances scientific exploration, skepticism, and anecdotal observation, focusing on quantifiable biohacking upgrades.
"All of the phones of the latest generation... attack the limbic system already within seconds... you see brain activity that's linked to stress rise up significantly and then the alpha activity in the limbic system gets destroyed."
— Philip (07:17)
"If not, people don't understand what I mean—it even starts with a shaman drumming the drum... it's a frequency, and everything has frequency."
— Philip (01:28)
"Everything you put inside gets instantly infused with pure natural quantum energy... It can be measured. It's not just some fluff."
— Philip ([10:53], [12:52])
Practical examples:
“If you drink this optimized water, your body gets into homeostasis. That is what they wrote in the study report.”
— Philip (19:35)
"You could copy that frequency... into your athletic shirt, into your pants... And you could do the same thing with your pajama and put the Calm and Rest frequency in there..."
— Philip (22:37)
"At a certain point you have to be a really hard headed skeptic to say, I will ignore all the evidence that doesn't agree with my picture of reality. That would be unscientific."
— Dave (27:54)
“Imagine if, like, way back in the day, they're like: ‘well, the only way to make fire is to rub sticks together...’—this is just technology evolution.”
— Dave (35:28)
“The highly concentrated quantum field... is already an inherent buffer of that. And if there are dark energies, they can’t really exist in that high vibration.”
— Philip (43:08)
"All of the phones of the latest generation... attack the limbic system already within seconds... you see brain activity that's linked to stress rise up significantly and then the alpha activity in the limbic system gets destroyed."
— Philip (07:17)
"If you drink this optimized water, your body gets into homeostasis. That is what they wrote in the study report."
— Philip (19:35)
"At a certain point you have to be a really hard headed skeptic to say, I will ignore all the evidence that doesn’t agree with my picture of reality. That would be unscientific."
— Dave (27:54)
"What we have is not a product. It’s a key technology. It can be leveraged almost in any industry."
— Philip (24:48)
"If someone had [our technology] and they wanted to broadcast a pesticide frequency... it just wouldn’t work. The quantum field neutralizes that frequency."
— Philip (41:20)
This conversation bridges ancient healing arts, modern quantum physics, and biohacker optimization—with an open (though skeptical) embrace of unexplained phenomena, personal and empirical data. While some claims and practices strain conventional science, Dave and Philip emphasize data, repeatability, and the invitation to “try it yourself,” moving frequency medicine and quantum tech toward the mainstream in the biohacking world.
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Skeptics and seekers alike are encouraged to weigh evidence, remain curious, and consider that both reality and human health might be more dynamic—and energetically mutable—than we’ve imagined.