At just 16, Ellyse Perry was the youngest person to ever debut for the Australian International Cricket team. 13 days later, Ellyse debuted for the Matildas.

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Arguably one of the greatest athletes of our time, Hugh, Ryan and Josh chat to Ellyse about how she stays so grounded amidst her incredible success, and whether she is able to separate who she is from what she does.

Ellyse chats to the guys about her relationship with her dad (Josh and Hugh furiously take notes), and how both her parents were able to instil a love of trying rather than winning.

And then we get onto social anxiety; what it feels like for Ellyse, why she loves silent retreats, and how she manages it in front of her fans.

Ellyse, you are a literal ray of sunshine. Please come back anytime.

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0:00 – Is THAT AI?
5:05 – Running (and bowling) it’s natural course
11:24 – The feeling of not trying
17:18 – Parents: Be A Good Sport
29:22 – Prepare to be disappointed
40:23 – Bitter sweet World Cup
46:48 – The complexity of ego
1:03:54 – Practicing presence
1:10:30 – Hugh’s advice for big moments

🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned on this episode

Pat Cummins - Love, Loss & Life - (1:14:20) - https://bit.ly/3PRku11
WHO ARE YOU? with Dr Emily (+ secret code word) - (17:20) - https://bit.ly/4e1SxeV

📖 Things to read

Perspective by Ellyse Perry - (29:22) - https://bit.ly/3PSMaCI
Ellyse Perry’s children’s books - https://bit.ly/4e1TyDM
Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman - (1:11:40) - https://bit.ly/437yxT9

📺Things to watch

Carl Sagan’s Pale Blue Dot - (1:17:27) - https://bit.ly/3PSPKNa

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