Podcast Summary: The Interview with Leslie Heaney
Episode: American Heroes - feat. James Patterson and Timothy Malloy
Release Date: February 26, 2025

Introduction

In this compelling episode of The Interview with Leslie Heaney, Leslie sits down with renowned author James Patterson and veteran reporter and documentary filmmaker Timothy Malloy. Together, they delve into their latest collaborative work, American Heroes, a tribute to the valor and sacrifices of United States armed forces members who have received the Medal of Honor, Silver Star, and Distinguished Service Cross. The conversation also touches upon their previous collaboration on the book Filthy Rich, which investigates the notorious Jeffrey Epstein case.

Beginnings of a Literary Journey

Leslie opens the discussion by exploring James Patterson's journey into writing. Patterson shares his humble beginnings and the encouragement that propelled him into a successful writing career.

James Patterson [02:38]: "I'm pretty much started in Nashville in the sense that I went to grad school... He made me believe in myself, so that was a big deal."

Patterson recounts his initial foray into fiction and his early successes, including winning an Edgar Award for his first mystery novel after being rejected by 26 publishers.

Collaboration with Timothy Malloy

The conversation shifts to Patterson's partnership with Tim Malloy. They discuss how their friendship blossomed in Palm Beach and led to joint projects like the Netflix documentary Filthy Rich.

James Patterson [06:09]: "Let's do a book. So that's how Tim and I really got into it, doing the book on Epstein, Filthy Rich."

Malloy highlights their combined efforts in uncovering Epstein's heinous activities, emphasizing the impact their work had in bringing the story to a broader audience.

Creating American Heroes

Leslie and the guests delve into the creation of American Heroes. Patterson and Malloy explain their methodology in interviewing Medal of Honor recipients and other decorated soldiers, transforming extensive interviews into accessible and engaging narratives.

James Patterson [13:47]: "We turn them into these five, six, seven page stories in which you get a sense for the person and also their story."

They recount specific heroism tales, such as that of Woody Williams, whose bravery during the Battle of Iwo Jima earned him the Medal of Honor.

James Patterson [14:46]: "Woody Williams... he just goes and runs at these encampments where the Japanese are and... he gets the Medal of Honor for that."

Impact and Relevance

The discussion underscores the importance of sharing these heroic stories to inspire younger generations and honor military sacrifices. Patterson advocates for incorporating such narratives into educational curricula to foster understanding of duty and sacrifice.

James Patterson [16:10]: "They should actually teach this book in schools... it would turns kids onto reading."

Leslie shares personal anecdotes about the emotional resonance of these stories, emphasizing their universal themes of courage and selflessness.

Expanding Their Horizons

Beyond American Heroes, Patterson and Malloy touch upon their other collaborative works, including books on ER nurses and educators. They discuss the challenges veterans face transitioning to civilian life and the lack of adequate support systems.

Tim Malloy [21:54]: "...they get just over medicated by the VA... they need jobs."

Patterson expresses a desire to initiate programs that aid veterans in presenting their military experience effectively in the civilian job market.

James Patterson’s Creative Process

Patterson shares insights into his creative process, highlighting his penchant for disruption and innovation in both his literary and business endeavors. He discusses his collaborations with diverse personalities like Bill Clinton, Dolly Parton, and Viola Davis, illustrating his ability to adapt and co-create across genres.

James Patterson [35:04]: "My whole career has been disruption... We're in the age of disruption."

He emphasizes the importance of meaningful collaborations and staying true to stories that resonate on a personal and societal level.

Future Projects and Reflections

As the conversation winds down, Malloy hints at upcoming projects, including a potential book on veterinarians and interviews with unique professionals. Patterson reflects on his extensive career and the enduring impact of storytelling in shaping perceptions and honoring true heroes.

Tim Malloy [51:40]: "Veterinarians... hippopotamus docs and things like that are fascinating."

James Patterson [53:06]: "It’s a little crazy. Don’t become a screenwriter. Don’t do it."

The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments and expressions of gratitude among the guests, underscoring the camaraderie and shared mission to illuminate the extraordinary lives of ordinary heroes.

Notable Quotes

• James Patterson [02:38]: "I love that he made me believe in myself, so that was a big deal."
• James Patterson [06:09]: "Let's do a book. So that's how Tim and I really got into it, doing the book on Epstein, Filthy Rich."
• James Patterson [13:47]: "We turn them into these five, six, seven page stories in which you get a sense for the person and also their story."
• James Patterson [16:10]: "They should actually teach this book in schools... it would turn kids onto reading."
• Tim Malloy [21:54]: "...they get just over medicated by the VA... they need jobs."
• James Patterson [35:04]: "My whole career has been disruption... We're in the age of disruption."

Conclusion

This episode of The Interview with Leslie Heaney provides an in-depth look into the collaborative efforts of James Patterson and Timothy Malloy in honoring American military heroes. Through engaging storytelling and a commitment to spotlighting acts of valor, the conversation offers listeners both inspiration and a profound appreciation for the sacrifices made by service members. Whether you're a fan of Patterson's thrillers or passionate about military history, this episode delivers valuable insights and moving narratives that resonate deeply.

Additional Resources

• American Heroes by James Patterson and Timothy Malloy
• Filthy Rich by James Patterson and Timothy Malloy (Netflix Documentary)