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The Environment Shaping Your Health - Pt. 2 with Tapp Francke
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I am very excited to bring you Part 2 of my conversation with clinical nutritionist and co-founder of Hamptons BioMed, Tapp Francke. In last week’s episode, we talked about learning about your own body’s “terrain,” focusing on vitamins, nutrients, the...
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Hey, everybody, this is Leslie, and you're listening to duologue with Leslie Heaney. Very excited to be bringing you part two of my conversation with clinical nutritionist and co founder of Hampton's BioMed, Tap Franke. In this episode, Tapp and I explore all the environmental factors that negatively impact our health. Things like microplastics, mold, endocrine disrupting chemicals that are in products like perfume, electromagnetic fields, or emfs, which that exposure comes from phones and computers, and also the negative impact of blue light, which is everywhere. We talk about the dangers of each of these, what they're doing to our bodies and how they're detrimentally affecting our health. But we also talk about ways we can reduce or eliminate these exposures in our lives, including certain products or things that we can do to reduce our risk. We also talk about exciting new treatments like infrared saunas and hyperbaric chambers, and have been clinically shown to reduce your biological age, among their many other benefits. So if you want to learn more about improving your health and increasing both your lifespan and, as Tapp likes to say, your health span, this is an episode you won't want to miss. What about sort of other environmental factors that affect people's health? You know, we talked about kind of, you know, part of having a clear tank, clear water in your tank is nutrition, sleep. I would think exercise would probably also be a huge piece of that puzzle. But on the sleep front, you know, things like, you know, blue light or phones near your bed. I've heard all these different, you know, things. Again, I get a lot of, a lot of my information from Instagram. Are, are. Is that also part of your analysis when a client comes in and can. Oh, yeah, to that and how that affects people's health.
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So that's part of, like, your. Your daily habits. Like, what are you eating out of? What products are you using at home? I'd say, number one, the easiest thing to, for anybody to do is to minimize their exposure to plastic.
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Okay.
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Right. The microplastics in our environment are out of control. And the microplastics we experience from drinking out of plastic water bottles, from eating out of plastic containers, either plastic like spatulas and such, or using Teflon cookware. Like, these are all releasing microplastics into our system. And those microplastics are huge disruptors of our endocrine system. So they're huge disruptors of our ability to produce and use our hormones appropriately. So you really want to minimize plastic, like, under all circumstances. So using glass for food storage, using like stainless steel, steal water cups. Right. Or, or glass to drink out of and like take out containers. Like, you just want to be more aware of where these microplastics are coming from because I, I think that they are actually creating a really significant issue not only in our environment but also in our bodies. So that would be my, my number one.
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As you're, as you're talking, I'm thinking, what do I have in my. I mean, I just had cottage cheese from a plastic container earlier today.
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Yeah, that's something like a cottage cheese isn't going to leach quite the same way that like a tomato sauce would. Right. Tomato is going to be a little bit more acidic. Anything that's heated up in plastic is going to have a lot of leaching. I don't trust plastic water bottles. I avoid them as much as possible. Obviously, we live in the world and if you need water and that's your choice, that's it. But it's, it's when water has been stored in those plastic water bottles in an environment that we know. Right. So that water was bottled and then it sat in the back of a truck at 110 degrees.
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Yeah.
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And then it was delivered to your grocery store and now it's in the fridge. So that microplastic release is going to be in there, right? That leaching is going to be in there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I am, I'm cautious with that and, and use it as little as possible. I think there's one, there's one piece of the equation which, which devastates me personally because I'm good. Coffee is those coffee cups. Oh, I know the cur to go.
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Coffee cups or even the Keurig P. The Keurig.
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Oh, forget it. I got rid of those a long time ago. The Keurig are all coated in, in microplastics. And you're sending boiling water through them.
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Yeah. I mean, why. We all know, you know, there's so much about the effect of like, you know, microplastics on sperm count. I mean, just. And you mentioned your other hormones in your body. I, I'm just surprised there hasn't been more, you know, sort of legislation around changing that. I know it's probably more costly to have things produced in glass, but clearly there is a, there is a real impact on people's health.
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It's a massive impact. And also environmentally, because then it ends up in the ocean and then the fish eat it and then we're eating it when we eat the fish and it just, it's a It's a constant exposure.
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So.
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So I think the more we can as a, as a population, reduce our dependence on plastic and make different choices. Right. So I just make a point to avoid plastic as much as you can, and obviously that's not going to be 100%.
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What about. So I've seen. I have friends, some friends that are kind of in the know. It's like a. They have like a cover on their phone here. You know, something here to block. You have it. Do you have it on yours?
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Yeah, it's called Safe sleeve. Oh, it's the. Yeah, yeah. So I, I think what you're talking about are there. Are these stickers that are supposed to be anti EMF stickers?
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Yes.
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I don't know how much I.
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What is emf?
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Electric Magnetic Electromagnetic field field.
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Okay.
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And that electromagnetic field can be disruptive to our, to our DNA. So I have for the last sort of 10 years or so, and this with my own kids. It was a. It was a. You have a phone. You have a Safe Sleeve on it. Like, I don't care that you want, like a cooler phone case. You have this one.
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Why are they not mandated? So it's called Safe Sleeve. All right.
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Safe Sleeve is the only one that I'm aware of with clinical study behind it.
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Okay.
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So that's why I'm a fan. And I've been buying them since I've had a phone. And like I said with my kids, they were so mad at me because they wanted, like, the cool. You know, when, you know, they're in, like, middle school or whatever, they want the cool phone case. And I'm like, no. Like, if you have a phone, it's on. It's in a safe sleeve. And now they're. Now they get it.
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Yeah.
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And now they're like, they don't have wired that. Everything that they use is like the, The. They don't have the unwired earbuds. They don't have, like, everything at Safe Sleeve. Like, they're totally doing it.
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Can we talk about the unwired. So we, we hit. We hit on the blue light. Now we're doing the. Just talked about the emf. Can we talk about the wireless headphones and why those are bad? I have a son that really sleeps in that.
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Yeah, it's not a great idea when you have Bluetooth, sort of. It's. It's. There are some really scary studies on the application of the phone directly to the ear as well as those earbud in the ear itself, because they're Sending more EMF signals and it's, there's a level of radiation to them as well, at least from the phone. So the more you can protect yourself, the better. So I make a point to always use the wires and I very rarely hold the phone up to my ear. Right. I'll either use like one of these headsets to talk or, or I'll just have an on speaker for exactly that reason. And I know that there are a lot of people that, that just spend their day with these, with these Bluetooth earbuds in and there's, it's, there's just no way it's good for you.
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Okay. What about toxic products on your body? We talked about the plastic. I know, I'm thinking about my Cascade dishwashing things with the plastic. Those have to go. I did buy these blue land ones that have no plastic. I was looking for it this morning. I don't know where they went. But that is what we all should be using, right? We should not be using the plastic coated well.
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Right. And we think about what those pods are, both in the dishwasher and in the washing machine is they're sending all these microplastics out into the waterway. So then we're really just creating more of a toxic relationship with the water, with the fish. Right? Because then we go eat the fish that we just threw all of these microplastics into. So that's part of that ecosystem. Like that's that whole world terrain that really we need to be more careful with. Also all those microplastics in our clothes and they, you know, can absorb through your skin. And it's, it's really best practice to have as, as few of those products in, in your world as possible. Obviously not everybody is going to be able to be 100% on this. And perfection may be the, the death of effort, right, because you just think it's too much. Right. But the more you can do and just trying to do it like one little thing at a time. And it's non toxic laundry detergent, it's non toxic dishwasher detergent. It's using natural products on your, on your skin, on your, on your face. You know, we have at Hampton's Biomed actually created an entire skin care regime around just non toxic skin care. So the idea is, you know, we're, we're all trying to be the best versions of ourselves that we can be. But as you know, as a woman who's 51, I'm 54, so I'm very much like in that same world, we want to. We want to feel and look well.
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Yeah.
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And that often, you know, historically has meant things like Botox and fillers and much more toxic makeup and much more toxic skin care products. And our perspective, my partners and I have been like, let's. Let's not do that. Instead, introduce much more natural ways to promote skin health. And. And I think that's such a beautiful answer for those people that don't want to. To use those products on. On their body. Just like you said, like, with the. Whether it's on your skin lotion or whether it's a face oil or makeup.
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Well, it's so. So I went to this facialist once, and she did your facial. And then she had someone else who was doing. Not Reiki. It's a foot massage. But what am I thinking of? We were touching the. The pressure points, the. You know what I'm talking about?
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I totally do. And I'm having a blank hashtag, this is your 50 hashtag, I'm 54.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean, this is what we're doing here. But she was like, what. What kind of essential oil would you like on your feet? And just so you know, your foot. Your feet are. Is connected to your body. And I thought, like, what is this woman talking about? And I think I picked peppermint or something. I could taste it in my mouth. She put it on my feet and I could taste it in my mouth. And she told me that was gonna. And it wasn't even. I had other friends go to this person, too. And it's the same. So it got me thinking, like, if that actually is being absorbed into my skin. If your skin is the largest organ on your body. Right. And I just put. Whether it's sunscreen or, you know, I put on moisturizer this morning. I have no idea what's in it. And I look at the label and, like, there's all, you know, and they're.
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You know, parabens and phthalates and.
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Yeah.
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All of these things that are, again, not helping our terrain. They are going to be disruptive. They're going to be endocrine disruptors. I mean, there's another whole thing with fragrance. Right, Right. So these artificial fragrances, these perfumes, these colognes we have in our country, like, everybody has got a thyroid. Right. And what are we doing? Just take the visual. What are we doing? We're taking perfume, an artificial fragrance or a cologne. We are spraying it on our neck.
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Yeah.
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It is being absorbed directly into our thyroid. And we wonder why Everybody has hypothyroid or Hashimoto's or hyperthyroid. Right. It's. It's like we're doing this without, without understanding what the consequences. I mean, I have two boys, they're 16 and 19 and getting them off cologne is hard. Yeah, right. Because it's like especially the 16 year old is like all cologne. But I finally bought him this cologne by a company called Henry Rose, which is all non toxic. And I was like, okay, you can wear the cologne. This doesn't have any like artificial fragrance in it. It's no, there's no toxicity to it. And just don't spray it right on your thyroid. Right. Like spray it on your clothes. Right.
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Well, isn't that why. I mean when people perfume, they tell it to put you on your neck or your wrist because that's where your pulse is, right? And that's how sort of it sends out the, the scent from that, whatever that energy that's coming out of where your pulse is. I mean, I. This is, I mean I, I'm just the thing I wanted to ask you. Sorry, I'm jumping around, but the, the vagus nerve, right?
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Honestly, the base of the vagus nerve, it's right here, like where you're putting the perfume.
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Well, that's exactly what it got me. And I have, you know, suffer from. Well, my face is. Will be. I often suffer from moon face. If I have. I'm out late or I have too much wine the next morning, I mean I could be like. It's almost like pie. I could. Perfect. I'm a perfect circle. And again, getting my information from Instagram or my phone is listening to me talk, I don't know which, but that there's this, it's kind of a massage massager, right? That, that hits the back of your neck and apparently this whole area to release. Because what they're saying is if you have what they call tech neck, you're tightening the muscles so much that it's actually making it difficult for your lymph.
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To flush, to drain.
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To drain. Is that real?
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Okay, but I don't think you need a device for it. You can use your, you can use your hands.
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I know that's what they were saying.
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Not everything needs a, needs a device.
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Get like really in there and then.
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Yeah, but you really like, you wanna, you wanna massage it, you wanna move the lymph, right? You wanna make sure that, that that's able to, to drain. And that's a huge thing that, that honestly happens during your sleep where a Lot of that limb from the brain is, is drained down, down the neck and into the main lymph nodes that are here just underneath your collar. Lymph movement is, is incredibly important in terms of taking the garbage out, right? We always want to take the garbage out. That's what lymph is, right? It's like collecting all the toxins and moving them out of the system. So we want to make sure that those are also always in motion. And yes, tech neck is creating a problem, but yeah, really just waking up in the morning and sort of activating those areas and giving yourself a little, a little neck massage and then making sure to, to hit those two points below the collarbone will really help.
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What about food? So I know we can't go, I mean we could do a whole episode, I'm sure on food with you as a clinical nutritionist. But processed food, what should we be looking at for labels or what? Obviously no processed food, but is it high fructose corn syrup or what other like, are there flags that you look for that you recommend to your, to your patients to avoid or is it just do we need to do a whole other episode?
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Well, we need to do a whole other episode on food, but there are a couple of basics, right? There are certain food ingredients that are in our processed food that have actually been banned in other countries. Things like potassium bromate and titanium dioxide. And, and these are really problematic and actually been classed as Class 1 carcinogens. But yet they're still in our food and in our toothpaste, right? Titanium dioxide's in our toothpaste. Like we don't need that. What you really want to look for is as many whole food ingredients as possible. And the most important ingredients are really that first four or, and ideally you don't want more than four or five, but you want to look for things that are either if it's coming from a grain product, you want it to be a whole grain, you don't want it to be enriched and you want to be using as much whole food as possible. A lot of these processed foods, or at least these ultra processed foods have been stripped of their, of their nutrients and in many cases like their, their fibers in particular. And what you really want to be able to, to do is to feed that again, feed biome and to feed your cells. So in order to do that, that food really needs to be much more in whole form. Unfortunately we're in a really convenience based society and so everything wants, everybody wants everything really fast and, and on the run. So most Packaged products. You want to look at the label, you know, read your labels, get to know them and to look for those, those real whole food ingredients, which is really going to be something that you can pronounce, something that you're familiar with, and any of those super chemical names, you're generally going to think, okay, maybe this isn't the best product for me.
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Okay, I do want to do a whole episode with you on food because I just, I, you know, there was this thing I saw comparing, like Breyers ice cream, for example, the way Breyers was made in 1980 versus how it's made now. And you know, I don't. And as you mentioned, like, there are many countries in Europe that have banned so many of the products that we have in our food. And whether it's red dye or the list goes on and on, you know, that we really need to be more mindful of what we're putting in our bodies. And I, you know, I guess bacon now and cold cuts and sausage are all. Have all been designated carcinogenic or.
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Yeah, they're clear. They were. They have been reclassed as Class 1 carcinogens.
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Class 1, yeah.
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Which.
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Which is up there with smoking. Right. And, and yeah. Okay, so you've been able to actually reverse your chronological age right. Through some of these practices.
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So chronological, Chronological age is never going to change. Right. So I'm 54. Chronologically, I' be whatever age. Like I'm just about to be 55. Chronologically, I'm going to be that. But biologically, biologically, I am actually currently 34.
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Okay. And how do you measure that? So to measure that.
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Yeah. So there are a couple good tests out there. One of them is the Elysium test. I like that one. And the other one is glycanage. Those are ones that you can order online yourself. And Glycan age is the one that we've tended towards at the clinic because it really measures the glycans outside the cell, which are really oxidative. And so it really gives you an idea about how your cells are aging and what kind of oxidation might be happening in the system. So we use the glycan age as. As a way to help people measure their responses to the various different tools that we have. Like, for example, with the human regenerator bed, we'll have people do glycan age tests before they start it and then glycan H tests afterwards in order to measure how. How much has actually happened in their exposure to that particular technology. My personal experience was before I ever got on the human regenerator bed, which is. Uses cold atmospheric plasma, which is basically an endless supply of antioxidants. I am still 54, but I was 54 at the time. And my biological age came back at 47. I was pretty happy with that. Just being a little bit lower was great. I then went on the human regenerator bed twice a week for two months, and my biological age dropped to 34. So what did that do? It reduced the oxidation in my system. So why do we age? Oxidation. Right. That is a cellular process. If we can reduce that by supplying the body with antioxidants. Right. You think about like you slice an apple. If you leave that apple exposed out in the air, it's going to turn brown. If you. That's oxidation. If you put some lemon juice on it as an antioxidant, that's going to slow that process down so it doesn't brown so fast. Right. It's the same kind of idea, except inside the body. So anytime you're introducing an antioxidant, whether it's through food or antioxidant supportive behaviors, which are going to be, you know, good sleep, avoidance of blue light in the evening, exercise, like all of these are going to be things that are going to support that antioxidant element within the body. Then you're going to reduce your biological. Your. I just said it. You're going to reduce your. Yeah. Your biological age.
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Your biological age. Not your chronological.
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Not your chronological age. That's just going to be. That's going to be on your birth certificate.
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Like that's it. Exactly. That is fascinating because you. You hear a lot about antioxidants and the importance of that with preventing cancer and all that stuff, but I've never really connected it to sort of the aging or the. The oxidation process that's going on in your cells. Right?
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Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
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Okay. All right. So you mentioned the human regenerator bed and what that does. Right. These are. There's a bunch of other therapies that you offer at Hampton's Biomed. Right. With that are kind of longevity technology. Right. And that's one of them. And there's. There's a few others. I just. Just want to mention what they are and if you could just tell us kind of how they, how they work. And I guess for listeners, though, this is all kind of. Would be recommended to them in concert with all the other things we've talked about. Right. You're not just going to go in cold like me, and start taking 4000ius of vitamin D and throwing in oregano oil bells, which I did this morning. You're actually going to be informed how you're, you know, you know, approaching your health and, and kind of giving you whatever you need to kind of support your. Your body and your cells. In this case, you know, the human regenerative bed, it was the oxygen piece. Firefly light therapy.
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Firefly light therapy is the primary tool we use, number one, to help people fight infection. Right. If they have a cold or flu, if they have Lyme, if they have long Covid Epstein Barr. Firefly is really our tool for that. That. But photobiomodulation, which is what Firefly is, which is really high intensity light therapy, is also clinically studied for things like Alzheimer's, dementia, you know, cognitive function. So we use it a lot in those patients too. We use it for autoimmune patients. We use it. Photobiomodulation is incredible for thyroid function. So really, that application of firefly is, is multifaceted and, and you can use it for. For any number of things. Client come in just yesterday with autoimmune dysfunction. And, you know, we, we didn't approach her in terms of infection. We approached her in terms of, like, how we could then support her body using firefly on the body for her specific autoimmune dysfunction. So we can use that for any number of reasons, but our primary use is. Is infection. And like I said, it's a cold or flu. Right. Come in with a cold, you zap it with the firefly.
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Interesting. Okay.
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But it's amazing for long for lime. Oh, my gosh. We've had huge results from that. Also mold toxicity. It's really wonderful at helping to clear that too.
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Mold. Okay, quickly on mold. I'm sorry, I missed my mold. My. I had our. We just had a pipe burst in our house in Nashville covering a lot of our personal items. Water. I mean, should I be concerned about mold? How does one test for mold? And what are the symptoms of having. Being poisoned from mold?
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Mold is really complicated and very complex, and I would take every precaution, especially since you just had a pipe burst. Keeping in mind that anytime any kind of wallboard gets wet, it's really easy to grow mold on that. So anything that has physically gotten wet, I would say replace that. That Sheetrock for sure. Anything that is like clothing or something that is washable, wash it.
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Okay.
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Something that is upholstery might not make it, but there are some good upholstery sprays out there. And in terms of how you test for it, typically what we've been doing is giving people what are called the envirobiomics test. It's the ERMI test. You can test it just yourself. You order it online from envirobiomics and you can do samplings of the air and dust in the environment and that can pick up where there is mold. And then you can sort of gauge from that test whether you need to test further. But there's a really interesting twist to this story which is just really become known by me, which is there are mold dogs, dogs out there. There are dogs that have been trained to smell mold. And as you know, like the, you're never going to get a better answer than that. These mold dogs come to your house and they will tell you, they will tell their, their handler by alerting where the mold is or if there is a mold issue at all. I am fascinated by them. My, my partner, Jess Arden just started using them. She actually had an incredible experience in her house with where she was. She's had a mold passed and she was like, I feel like there's mold in the house and I can't figure out why. And my ERMI test is negative. So she had one of these mold dogs come in and the mold dog alerted the handler that it was under the fridge. And as it turned out, there was a leak under her refrigerator and there was mold all in the tray.
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If you're having like, you know, you're sneezing or you're, I don't know what other symptoms you would find.
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So with mold, like sneezing isn't, isn't like your typical symptom of mold toxicity that might be like, you know, an allergic response.
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Okay.
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But mold toxicity is like brain fog, fatigue, gut issues, skin breakouts, a lot of these sort of, you know, these chronic long term, like those complex puzzles we were talking about before. A lot of that starts with mold and it really down regulates the body's ability to fight efficiently. And there's some study that shows that, that the mold actually sort of pokes holes in the, in the gut, creating more of a leaky gut. And so again that creates more immune dysfunction. So you really, I think mold is something really to pay attention to, really to be vigilant about and to, if you have a concern to, to absolutely test for. Using that ERMI test as your first line of defense, I think is totally reasonable. But I am fascinated by these mold dogs. I am totally fascinated. I have yet to, to use one but just from what my partner Jess described, it's crazy. And I went on Mold Dog usa, who is a Instagram, definitely start following Mold Dog usa. It's so cool. These dogs are just, like, on it. They know exactly where it is.
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By the way, it makes great sense because mold smells. I mean, it's something out of your refrigerator. It's covered in mold. It smells that they would be able to pinpoint and know exactly where to go. That is awesome. All right.
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It is awesome. And it takes a lot of the mystery out.
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Hyperbaric chamber. We're back on. On our. On our rapid fire and some of these longevity technologies. I know. I think Michael Jackson used this. Madonna uses this. I. I know LeBron James, I think, has one. It's. It helps in recovery, right? And. And just body recovery after. After working out. But it's also a longevity tool.
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So basically, what you're doing is you're in a chamber being delivered oxygen via a mask. So that mask is giving you about 1,500% of what your oxygen needs are. So you're getting oxygen saturation, and you're in a chamber that creates pressure. So depending on how much pressure and for how long, it micronauts the oxygen itself so that it can go deeper and deeper into the cells. What does that do? Oxygen delivery to the. To the body on that kind of level improves recovery. That means that you're going to, you know, recover from your workout better. It means you're going to recover from an illness better. But. But the really cool studies that were done, there were two studies that were done simultaneously this summer, not connected to each other, but came up with the same results, which is that the. The use of hyperbaric consistently showed an increase in the length of telomeres. So telomeres are this little tail that sits at the base of your DNA, and every single time your cell splits, right? Mitophagy, you get a little kink out of the chain, right? So essentially, what your telomere is, is your lifespan, because as soon as there's no more kink in the chain, there's. There's no more mitophagy, and you die. But what the studies, both of them independently saw is that there was up to a 30% increase in telomere length from hyperbaric use. So when we're talking about longevity, like, that's the holy grail. The holy grail of. Of the longevity space is telomere lengthening. And hyperbaric was able to do it.
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And how often were people using that that hyperbaric chamber to get that.
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So the studies were different, but typically we're talking three to five days a week. That's usually not achievable by most people. We're typically having people in the hyperbaric about twice a week. But you're still getting the cumulative effect.
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Okay, now I know why Michael Jackson had one. I mean, I. I might. I might need to. With something. We should all.
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I mean, it's incredible. It also makes you feel like lake. Like you could run a marathon. Like you get out of the hyperbaric and you're like, let's go. Like, it just gives you so much clarity and energy. And I mean, the studies are fascinating on also recovery from any kind of brain injury and for cognition, too.
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So red light bed. Red light therapy.
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B
Red light therapy. So, like the red light bed, for example, we have a different one in Southampton than we have in the city. The one in Southampton is Saralite, which is. Is great. What that's doing is it's just exposing the body to infrared and red light. And that is terrific for seasonal affective disorder because you're exposing yourself to the light that we don't get in the northeast, in particular in the wintertime. But moreover, if we go back to that mitochondria, Right. So in the mitochondrial chain, how we're producing energy comes out of these complexes. It's called the electronic electron transport chain. Complex 4 is Cytochrome C oxidase, which is literally activated by red light. So it really helps in energy production. So not only are you able to really have a great change of mood, especially in the winter, but it increases your body's ability to create cellular energy. So I'm a big fan. We have what's called the arc elysium bed in New York. And I am obsessed with it, and I really need to. I'm actually going to get in it today because I don't get to be in York all the time. And it just takes it to the next level. It has all these programs that help with energy, that help with inflammation. It has not only red infrared light, it has red, infrared, and green light. So the green light is incredible for inflammation. So, I mean, it's just. It's. It's a very special, very special bed.
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A
Is it like a. I mean, because there.
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B
It's not a sauna.
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A
Okay. Okay.
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B
There's an infrared sauna. That's something different.
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A
Okay.
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B
Okay.
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A
So you're not in heat when you're doing this red light therapy. You're just getting the light.
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B
So it's warm, okay, but you're not there to be heated, right. So when you get into an infrared sauna, and there are amazing clinical studies on the longevity aspects of, of infrared sauna, how it increases lifespan and it decreases all cause mortality by up to 40%. Like these crazy studies are incredible. But use of the infrared sauna, which is a way to sort of heat the body from the inside out. Out. If you were to go into a regular sauna, like a, just a, like a dry sauna, you'd be heating your body from the outside in, in sauna, you're heating it from the inside out because it penetrates the body 8 inches. So it's a much more effective detox tool. And it also creates, and this is true of all saunas, creates heat shock proteins. And those heat shock proteins are what help our cells be more resilient and help reduce that, that oxidation. So infrared sauna. I am a huge. Oh my God, I love them.
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A
How many times a week, Whether it's in infrared is obviously sounds like it's preferable, but that or sauna, I mean I, I was, I, I think it's twice a week or three times a week.
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B
Yeah, it's two to four times a week ideally.
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A
And the, the benefits of that are as you mentioned, like it's risk of so many different kinds of comorbidities. Right.
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B
Like longer than you care to list. But it's like cardiovascular, right. It's, it's circulation, it's detoxification and it's the big piece are those heat shock proteins which are I think the, the biggest part of cellular resilience.
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A
Flo espresso.
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B
Flo presso.
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A
Oh, not a Flo espresso. That's something I should be.
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B
That sounds like an espresso. That sounds like something I want to drink. The flopresso is an all over body lymphatic drainage. So when you go back to the lymph, right, the lymph is your, is your, you know, takes out the garbage. So it's a way to improve lymphatic function. Your lymph can get really stagnant, particularly with dysfunction. So when you get into the flopresso, it's, it's really gently massaging your lymph and you get a big detox response from it. It also feels amazing. It feels like you're wearing a thunder vest. Like it's like. So it gets you right into a parasympathetic state. It's so calming.
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A
My God, I wish I had some of these at home. Okay. PEMF therapy.
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B
Pulse electromagnetic field. We typically are using that most for acute injury. It's a really great way to bring blood flow to an area that's injured. The biggest thing that PEMF does is anywhere where there's an injury in your body, like your cells get flat, right? Your cells are supposed to be sort of bouncy and they're supposed to deliver oxygen and nutrients all around your body. Where there's injury or there's sickness, the cells get flat. The biggest thing that PEMF does is it just pumps the cell back up like it gives it its shape back, but then that means that it's able to go do its job again. So that means that it's able to go deliver oxygen to, to the other areas of the body. Body. But if you're using it specifically for injury, and I have, as I said, two teenage sons, we've been on the PEMF a lot for various broken bones and twisted ankles. And it just reduces recovery time by about half.
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A
Wow. Okay. Neogen.
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B
Neogen is our non toxic facelift. And what that does is it's, it's hot plasma. And what the hot plasma does is it activates the fibroblast under the skin to create more collagen. So, so it's kind of used instead of the Botox and the fillers. Right. You use the Neogen. And what the Neogen is doing is it's naturally boosting your skin's elasticity and maintaining the facial fat to keep a youthful appearance. So I'm, I'm so grateful for it because like I, I will not do those. You know, given my health history, I don't want to do something like a Botox. But I am 54. Like I am aging and nobody wants.
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A
To buy a logically 34. I can't, I'm scared to take the test. But I, but I'm excited about the fact that you can reverse it.
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B
Yeah, you really can. And it's amazing to watch. And so, so the combination of all of this is really improving cellular function in your body. Right? That's what you want more than everything. And that's what it all comes down to. What are your cells doing? How do you promote better cell health? And naturally, as we age, cell health starts to decline. But there are so many things that we can do to help improve it so we can all grow, grow old gracefully.
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A
Yes.
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B
Right. And to be as, as dynamic as possible for as long as possible. Right. It's not even like I think when we talk about longevity. We think about lifespan. I'm thinking about health span.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I want to know how long I'm going to be healthy for, and that's what I'm looking to support and for me and for all of my clients.
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A
Tap, listen, I'm. I'm coming out. Or tell me where I can go, because we're not just in Southampton. You're also in New York City. Right. And I think you're going to be opening another facility in Florida.
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B
So, yes, we are in Southampton, New York. We just opened on the Upper east side. We're on 70th, between second and third, ground floor. We have a great facility. I'm here today. It's so beautiful here. And we. We've set our sights on a few other areas we don't have. We're not confirmed in those areas yet, but we're very interested in Palm beach and we're very interested in Aspen. So we'll see what happens with that. For the now. For now, we have the two.
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A
Well, I can't wait to come because I. Because I am me and my husband. And actually, it sounds like our people's children should consider this, too. If you have kids that are, you know, not feeling healthy or getting sick a lot or, you know, anxiety, all the things you sort of mentioned that, you know, can be affected by your diet and your sleep and your exercise and your genetics, it's really important to kind of have your own roadmap of your terrain, to use your terms, which is just so apt in describing kind of our own, you know, our own particular self. Right. That it's really important to kind of unpack that, to really understand how you can optimize your health. So, Tap, thank you so much. I look forward to seeing you in person soon. And I, I know, I mean, we got to do diet another time. I mean, we could do a whole labels episode. I mean, the options are endless. But I really appreciate you taking the time. Thanks so much for coming on.
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B
It was so fun and I would love to do this again.
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A
That brings us to the end of this episode. A huge thank you again to TAPP Frankie for joining. To learn more about TAP's recommendations and TAP's work, including what products you should and shouldn't be buying for your family to protect their health. I give a lot more information on my substack. To learn more about how to subscribe, you can check out my Instagram Duologue pod or my website@dualogpod.com if you enjoyed this episode, please rate or review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. We release a new episode every Wednesday. So until next Wednesday, this is Leslie. And thanks so much for listening to Duolog.