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The Investor With Joel Palathinkal
Episode: Paul Palmieri: Managing Partner of Grit Capital Partners
Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Dr. Joel Palathinkal
Guest: Paul Palmieri

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dr. Joel Palathinkal sits down with Paul Palmieri, veteran founder, unicorn CEO, and now Managing Partner of Grit Capital Partners—a specialist seed-stage fund focused on applied AI in martech, commerce, fintech, and mediatech. The conversation explores Paul's blue-collar roots, lessons from sales and entrepreneurship, transitioning into venture capital, and the evolving landscape of family offices and specialized venture investing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Paul Palmieri's Origin Story and Early Influences

(02:13–07:59)

• Upbringing and Family Values:

  • Born in rural Connecticut, raised at the Jersey Shore in a middle-class, education-focused household.
  • Parents, both teachers, were highly resilient and took multiple jobs (tutoring, real estate) to support college for their children.
  • "My parents really demonstrated the value of hard work... and there was also an emphasis on just being grateful for what we had." (Paul Palmieri, 04:21)

• Early Aspirations:

  • Recognized the entrepreneurial hustle in his parents.
  • Leadership experiences and extracurriculars in college were formative, more so than academics (studied political science & music).
  • Inspired by student leaders who "could inspire other people to be their best and to grow beyond what they thought they could do." (07:00)

2. From Sales to Silicon Valley: Lessons from Relentless Hustle

(07:59–16:08)

• First Jobs:

  • Started in sales, selling copiers in Philadelphia—a gritty, relationship-building, rejection-filled role.

  • Notable early influence: Gil Exler, CEO, who instilled a powerful motto from OG Mandino:

    "I will persist until I succeed. I was not delivered into this world in defeat..." (08:46–09:18)

  • Discussed the impact of self-talk, fearlessness and mindset.

    "The number one thing it taught was fearlessness." (Paul Palmieri, 10:30)

• Transition to Marketing and Tech:

  • Entered early mobile via Sprint Spectrum, then joined advertising.com and built a mobile advertising business before the ecosystem really existed.
  • Lessons in resilience: “We were trying to put ads on pagers back in the day.” (11:50)

• Foundational Role at Verizon Wireless:

  • Led the launch of the first US mobile app store (Get It Now, pre-iPhone).

  • Built the now-standard 70/30 developer revenue model:

    “At the time, it was remarkable that a US operator carrier would…give 70% of the revenue to very, very tiny companies…” (15:00)

  • Innovated early mobile content strategies (music, video, games).

3. Sales Wisdom: Human Connection & AI’s Role

(17:08–22:38)

• Old-school vs. Modern Sales:

  • Early sales tactics involved physically sneaking into buildings, identifying decision-makers, and personal outreach—contrasted with today's data- and AI-driven approaches.

  • Memorable recollection:

    "The secret to getting in those buildings was to go up through the basement… look at the labels on the magazines because the magazines were not being sent to the receptionist, they were being mailed to the decision maker." (18:30–18:44)

• Emerging Technologies:

  • Discussed emergence of agentic AI in sales—automatic outbound that truly customizes at scale.
  • Emphasized investing in martech and sales automation at Grit Capital, believing AI has immense potential to augment human creativity and reach.

• Human Element in Deals:

  • “People want a mix of a window and a mirror. They want a window into what the future would look like… but they also want to see themselves reflected in that future...” (Paul Palmieri, 21:19)
  • Empathy, understanding customer impact, and focusing on outcomes (not features) remain critical.

4. Rise to Public Company CEO & Lessons Learned

(22:42–28:22)

• Millennial Media:

  • After Verizon, co-founded Millennial Media, a mobile ad platform. Saw parallels in monetization—from mobile media to new AI-based interactions.
  • Lessons from IPO journey:

    “Taking the company public is a sales process where you get pretty immediate feedback... By the time you get back in the car, [you know] whether they placed an order or not.” (24:14–24:44)

• Transition to Venture:

  • Curious why few founders ended up in venture.
  • Brief stint as a Venture Partner at NEA (top VC), where he learned the value of analytical frameworks in investing—not just “feel” and operational intuition.
  • Realized “taking risk is what we look for in founders,” but also respected MBAs and traditional VCs for their analytical rigor.

5. Specialization and the Grit Approach to VC

(28:22–31:15)

• Founding Grit Capital Partners (2018):

  • Only invests in sectors where the partners have founder/CEO experience and are recognized as thought leaders.
  • Prioritizes “small funds over large funds to drive performance, and a real believer in the sort of like operator mentality.” (30:44)

• Advice to Aspiring VCs (for all career stages):

  • Two prevailing paths: investment banking to VC, or direct entry as an analyst—both valuable.
  • The operator (especially founder-CEO) path is “the road less traveled” and requires humility:

    “It takes an enormous amount of humility to go in and say I'm going to be an intern at a venture capital firm as a venture partner and just put your mind in the right frame, where you're a student, where you're really there to learn and to listen.” (33:11–33:28)

6. The Rise of Family Offices & Specialist Direct Investing

(33:28–45:17)

• Understanding the Family Office Shift:

  • Significant stat:

    “In the year 2000, less than 20% of US family offices were ones where the wealth event happened in the current or just prior generation... In 2025, that percentage is above 80%.” (38:08–38:33)

  • Gen 1/Gen 2 family offices are now dominant—entrepreneurial, engaged, eager for directs.

• AI as a Defining Theme:

  • “I believe that AI exposure will be the defining driver of above market returns for the next 20 years.” (34:54–35:22)

• Specialist Direct Model for Families:

  • Advocates for families to partner deeply with specialist managers rather than be passive LPs in mega-funds.

  • "Specialist Direct" means combining fund investing and co-investing, with more collaborative, value-added relationships.

  • Critique of traditional Yale model deployment at subscale; instead, suggests 5–10M checks can anchor specialist funds and access alpha, not just scraps.

• Empowering the Next Generation:

  • Next gens don't always want to run the legacy business; specialist direct investing can fuel their engagement and leverage their interests.

7. Advice for Founders-Turned-Investors & the Power of Networks

(45:17–53:42)

• Networks and Knowledge Sharing:

  • Value of communities like Tiger 21: personal board of directors, learning from others' successes and failures.
  • Families can “achieve time travel” in learning by forming the right relationships.

• From Angel to Institutional VC:

  • Discipline and clarity are needed when transitioning from angel investing to running a fund.
  • The value: founder/operator VCs bring tangible benefits—access to resources, networks, and real operational playbooks—to their portfolio founders.

8. Parting Wisdom: “React Well”

(53:41–54:34)

• Paul credits his mother for his core principle:

  “You have to react well. Everything is about how you react. Things change, times change, deals change… and the quality and the tone and the speed all together of your reaction and how you react is really what builds a career, a reputation, a lifetime of feeling great about what you're adding to the world.”
  (53:41–54:34)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I will persist until I succeed. I was not delivered into this world in defeat, Nor does failure course in my veins...” (OG Mandino via Gil Exler, 08:46–09:18)
• “People want a mix of a window and a mirror…” (21:19)
• “AI exposure will be the defining driver of above market returns for the next 20 years.” (34:54–35:22)
• “It takes a really good dose of humility [for founders to learn venture].” (33:11–33:28)
• “The quality and the tone and the speed all together of your reaction and how you react is really what builds a career…” (53:41–54:34)

Key Timestamps

• 02:13 – 07:59: Paul’s childhood, parents’ influence, college experiences, early career insights.
• 08:46 – 10:30: Gil Exler's sales motto, self-talk, fearlessness in sales.
• 11:50 – 16:08: Entering tech, building mobile businesses at advertising.com and Verizon.
• 18:30 – 19:09: Sales tactics in the copier days—finding decision-makers.
• 20:03 – 20:57: AI’s role in BDR/SDR automation and martech.
• 21:19 – 22:04: Window and mirror in sales relationships.
• 24:14 – 24:44: Insights from leading an IPO roadshow.
• 33:11 – 33:28: Humility required for operator-to-VC transitions.
• 38:08 – 38:33: Family office generational shift (20% to 80% Gen1/Gen2).
• 53:41 – 54:34: Parting advice – React well.

Conclusion

This episode offers a rare insider’s view on building and funding the future—from street-level sales to the frontlines of the mobile revolution and into the new AI-driven venture landscape. Paul Palmieri’s journey is one of grit, humility, and bold foresight, empowering both founders and next-generation wealth creators with the tools and mindsets to thrive.