Notes from James:

When I turned 40, I was depressed. I checked the top 50 chess players and saw only one person around my age: Viswanathan Anand. That moment gave me hope.

Episode Description:

I met one of my lifelong heroes—five-time World Chess Champion Viswanathan Anand—and got to sit down with him at the Norway Summit to unpack what it really takes to stay at the top… for four decades. We didn’t just talk about chess—we talked about life, legacy, improvement, and how to overcome self-doubt at any age.

Vishy and I broke down how talent evolves, why confidence matters more than skill early on, and how he battled through plateaus, age, and even failure to remain among the world’s elite players—well into his 50s. This episode is a masterclass in longevity, performance, and reinvention.

Whether you're into chess or not, Vishy's insights apply to anyone striving to master their craft, overcome obstacles, and stay in the game.

What You’ll Learn:

The real reason most people plateau—and how to push through it
Why youth is powered by “inaccurate self-confidence” (and why that’s not a bad thing)
How to adapt when the game—or the world—changes faster than you can keep up
What to do when your best effort still leads to loss
How to retrain your mindset after failure or self-doubt
Why reinvention is a lifelong skill, not a one-time fix

Timestamps:

00:00 The Relentless Nature of Chess

00:39 Meeting My Hero: Viswanathan Anand

01:12 A Personal Story of Inspiration

02:55 Interview with Viswanathan Anand

06:43 The Evolution of Chess and Personal Growth

28:57 The Role of Youth and Confidence in Chess

31:14 Concluding Thoughts and Future Prospects

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How to Master Anything—at Any Age: Lessons from World Chess Champion Viswanathan Anand