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Maria Shriver: Life-Changing Lessons on Letting Go of Your Past & Creating Your Best Future Now!
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Jamie Kern Lima
Coming up in this incredible Part two episode with Maria Shriver, on the topic of big, I do wanna bring up one big thing that has exploded, which is White Lotus. How was that? Seeing your son play such a interesting and dynamic role, it makes me almost.
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Maria Shriver
Tear up now thinking about his moment. He's worked so hard. I just felt this unbelievable joy for him. Unbelievable. Just happiness for him that he was having this moment. How many people were like, whoa, Patrick Schwarzenegger's actually a really good actor. Which means that they thought going in he wasn't. And it means that they evolved with him and that his work made them change their mind. And that's really hard to do with.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Seeing some of the storylines, seeing him naked on camera. Like, all the things people are like.
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Maria Shriver
Oh, my God, you saw. I'm like, I give birth to him. It's not such a. You know, I've seen him naked all. I've seen him naked since he was a baby.
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Jamie Kern Lima
There's a poem in I Am Maria called the Child within that I cried my eyes out, reading, we all need.
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Maria Shriver
To find our way home. Regardless of gender, regardless of age. We're all and away in the fight of our lives. We're all, in a way, trying to figure out why we're here. What is our life about? What difference does it make that we are here? Will anybody see us? Will anybody notice us? Does anything we do matter? Feeling like you're in your own journey, that you're on your own path, that you're doing what you were put here to do is a beautiful, calming feeling. And when you feel that you will walk, I think differently in the world.
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Jamie Kern Lima
The wild in me. You say, don't let the Mary Meadows believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself warned. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained. Woo. I was like, wait a minute.
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Maria Shriver
The truth is, I think it's a beautiful time to be a woman. As I say to myself, daughters, and I think you can be tender and strong, you can be smart and sexy.
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Jamie Kern Lima
When you said, don't let the merry meadows believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene, consider yourself Warren. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained. I started giggling because I thought if that was on the dating app, it would go crazy if that was like your profile.
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Maria Shriver
Oh, really?
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Jamie Kern Lima
So I'm just gonna ask you, because I ask this of everybody. Are you dating anybody?
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Maria Shriver
I'm open. I'm open to whatever God sends my way, but my kids have kidded around going we should make you a dating app. I'm like, absolutely not. I mean, what do you call it? A dating profile. But now that I have a line I could put on there, maybe that's a good one. I used to think that love came only in an intimate, romantic package. And it made me miss out. And so I'm really focused on expanding my notion of love, expanding the amount of people that are in my open field, so to speak, that bring me love. And so whomever I end up with, if I do end up with someone that way, they're gonna be a village. They're gonna be in a village.
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Jamie Kern Lima
They're gonna be so blessed.
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Maria Shriver
I wanted to write a book without, you know, any grievances about a journey home to myself, which I think is the journey we're all on. How do we come home to ourselves? What does that even mean to us? So it's a book of poems and reflections. It's a book of wisdom and insecurity. It's a book of love and loss and longing and finding our way home. It's a book about life.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Moving humanity forward is her ministry. Maria Shriver is an Emmy Award winning, Gracie Award, winning, Peabody Award, winning, lifetime achievement Alzheimer's association award winning journalist, author and member of the legendary and iconic Shriver and Kennedy families. She's the author of the brand new number one New York Times best selling book, I Am Maria, filled with the most beautiful poetry. It's out now. Make sure to grab your copy. She's the founder of the Sunday paper. You can get her incredible content@Maria ShriverSundayPaper.com, we'll link to it in the show notes. She's also the former first lady of California and the founder of the Women's Alzheimer's movement. She was married to former Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger and is the daughter of Sergeant Shriver, who founded the Peace Corps, and Eunice Kennedy Shriver, who founded the Special Olympics. She's also the niece of the late President John F. Kennedy. She's a mom of four amazing children, Katherine, Patrick, Christina and Christopher. And she's a grandma. And yet, just like you and me, she's separate and independent. Of all of those jobs and roles and labels, she is most powerfully Maria. And that is is more than enough. And I want to ask you right now, when you think of all of the roles that you're known for and play in your own life, whether it's mom or friend or wife or sister, daughter, boss, and you strip those away, you're left with who you innately are. And do you believe right now, in this very moment, that who you are innately is fully enough? Today we are talking about how to know it and believe it in your life right now. And whether today you're listening for yourself or because someone you love shared this episode with you. I want to welcome you to the Jamie Kern Lima show podcast family. Thank you so much for being here. And can you take two seconds and do me a quick favor? Hit the subscribe or follow button on the app that you're listening or watching on. Thank you so much. It truly means so much to me. You can also get inspiration in your inbox from me for free. You can join my newsletter community@jamiekernlima.com Also, this incredible podcast episode today, it's not just for you and me. Please share this with every single person that you know who might need some inspiration today or perhaps a boost and and their self belief. Because what you're about to hear can truly impact mine, yours and their life too. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Oprah, how have you defied the odds? Her show is unlike any I've ever done.
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Maria Shriver
A revelation. When you listen, it feels like a hug. But your brain and your spirit and your heart is like, wow.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Melinda French Gates.
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Maria Shriver
When I look into Jamie's eyes, I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her. I could see the light around her.
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Jamie Kern Lima
She's infused with light. Imagine overcoming self doubt, learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.
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Maria Shriver
Jamie Kern Lima's rename. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima. I do want to bring up one big thing that has exploded, which is White Lotus.
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Maria Shriver
Yes. Yes.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Okay. So I saw the video. I saw the video online that once you guys were able to share it, where. Where Patrick had let you know he had been cast in it. Everyone's crying at the table. And it was so fun and I am so curious as I watched it. I watched it and how. Holy moly. Okay. All right. How does it feel? How does it feel as a mom? Because you've been around actors forever. This is not new. This is not your first rodeo. And also, how was that seeing your son play such a interesting and dynamic role?
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Maria Shriver
Well, it was. First of all, I didn't know that his fiance was videotaping that at all, you know, but it was very just. It makes me almost tear up now thinking about his moment. He's Worked so hard. You know, he goes to acting lessons every single week. He goes out for so many roles, you know, that you don't get. Right. And then for him, I knew he had tried out for this role, but I hadn't heard anything, so I assumed he didn't get it. And so when I saw him whispering to his fiance at the table, he had just gotten engaged two weeks before. So when I saw him whispering, I'm like, what are you whispering about? You know, I don't like whispering at the table. And he's like, no, nothing, nothing. I'm like, you know, I thought, oh, they're pregnant. Or, oh, something happened. Or, oh. And then he's like, well, I can't. I don't want to say anything. I can't say anything. I go, patrick, you've got to say something. You can't just say, no, I can't say anything. And when he told me, I just felt this unbelievable joy for him. Unbelievable. Just happiness for him that he was having this moment. And then to watch him. He went to Thailand for eight months. Wow. And to see him work so hard, and then to watch the arc of that character from everybody going, you know, like, what a jerk. To, like, oh, my heart breaks for him. And I said to him in the last episode when I. His just his facial expression, you know, when the Amy Lou Would character walked away and left him, and you could see his face, and you could see that his heartbroke that he had not been seen, that he had not been chosen, that he had not been valued. It was a heartbreaking moment, and he did it so well, and he acted this kind of range, and I was so proud for him. I said this to him actually yesterday. How many people were like, whoa, Patrick Schwarzenegger's actually a really good actor. Which means that they thought going in, he wasn't. And it means that they evolved with him and that his work made them change their mind. And that's really hard to do. And that's a really triumphant thing for him to have been able to do. And he's worked so hard, and I think he's handled himself. Having a moment like that is challenging. You know, there's a lot coming at you, and you can either crack with it, be a jerk with it, or ride it in an elegant, grateful manner. And I think he has written it in an elegant, grateful manner. He's very grateful to his acting teacher, to Mike White, to the people who've acted with him all along the way. And I think his siblings really supported him in a very loving way. But also, like, don't get your head up on this. You know, don't get too high on this, you know, in a fun way. And his friends, he has an incredible group of friends who've been with him since kindergarten, preschool. And he's really blessed. And I think, you know, he took this moment and he did well with it, and I'm really proud of him. And to watch him ride it in such a beautiful, humble, confident way, and then to. He's gonna be married in a few months, and, you know, it's a beautiful thing to watch. Yeah.
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Jamie Kern Lima
With seeing some of the storylines, seeing him naked on camera, like, all the.
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Maria Shriver
Things people are like, oh, my God, you saw. I'm like, I give birth to him. It's like, not such a. You know, I've seen him naked all. I've seen him naked since he was a baby. But, you know, I'm just looking at him and his craft, really. I'm watching him grow. Cause I've watched him. You know, I think people, when they see somebody in a show like that, they don't realize how much leads up to that moment. You know, they don't realize how hard he's worked or how many roles he hasn't gotten.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Right.
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Maria Shriver
You know, and then when they get a role, they. And then they do it well, and then they ride the moment. It's almost like the universe has to come together for them. And so to watch that.
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Jamie Kern Lima
And I didn't expect. Eight months in Thailand.
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Maria Shriver
Yeah, eight months in Thailand.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Amazing.
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Maria Shriver
And so Mike White, obviously is the writer, the creator, the director, the producer, and he's obviously incredibly talented. Young man.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Yeah. Well, you know, there's a poem in I Am Maria called the Child within that I cried my eyes out reading. And for anybody who almost, like, needs to connect with the little girl inside of them, who's doing. Maybe healing on healing journey, learning to go. Who am I?
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Maria Shriver
Or the little boy. Or the little boy or the little person. Right.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Yes.
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Maria Shriver
That's the thing that I've loved, actually, about going around the country, is how many men have come to these conversations. Because I think we so often. I think women are better in a way, at prioritizing their healing their emotions. They're more curious so often. And I don't think we have given space to men to really have that opening to allow for those conversations, to allow for their heartbreak, to allow space for their healing. We all need to find our way home. Regardless of gender, regardless of age. We're all, in a way in the fight of our lives, we're all, in a way, trying to figure out why we're here. What is our life about? What difference does it make that we are here? Will anybody see us? Will anybody notice us? Does anything we do matter? And I understand that journey. I understand those questions. And I'm walking alongside you if you're having those questions. Cause those are the questions I had, too. And I think that.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Do you feel like you have answers to those?
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Maria Shriver
Well, for me, but I think everybody has different answers. Right. And everybody asks those, I think, at different times in their lives. I think I meet a lot of young people today who wonder, will the world even be here when they get to my age? Does anything matter now? Yeah, does anything matter? Will they? Does their humanity matter? You speak about AI. Is it worth bringing a child into the world today? Is there such a thing as marriage? Is it worthwhile? Does love last? All of these questions that are now coming up, I think, at all ages. And so I hope this book will be shared across generations. I hope people will begin to think about these questions way before life smacks them down and they find themselves on a hotel room floor. And that they really do come to a place where they realize that it. They do matter, that their life is important, that they are here for a reason, that they are meant to live out their path. Not my path or your path, but their distinct path. And that it doesn't have to be what their parents or their siblings. Their walk doesn't have to be that walk. But I think kind of feeling like you're in your. That you're on your own path, that you're doing what you were put here to do, is a beautiful, calming feeling. And when you feel that you will walk, I think differently in the world. And you will be able to, most importantly, hear people who tell you to do this, this, and that, and go, I'm good. I'm walking where I need to be walking. Yeah.
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Jamie Kern Lima
You talk in the book about your own healing journey, about different modalities, and about even getting permission to be who you are, which I'm gonna ask you about in a second. But one of the things I love so much about this book, so many of us, not that we hide parts of us, but we don't, like, express them. Maria, in this book, you share so many. So many different things, so vulnerably, so openly. I know. I saw the interview with you and Oprah where she just, like, said she cried reading this, that you had shared so much, because she already knows. But you guys are best friends for you to share. There's so much you share and why I'm so excited. One of the many reasons I'm so excited about I Am Maria is because I feel like people read. I'm imagining the person reading it, man or woman, who's gonna read it and somehow have permission to just open up and just like, with themselves and tap into parts of themselves. I want to call out one of the poems in there called the wild in me. Ms. Maria Shriver. Okay. The Wild in Me, you say, don't let the merry meadows believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself warned. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained. Woo. I was like, wait a minute. So, okay. One of my many favorites in there. Because I feel like we're just. Every one of us has that in us. And I feel like.
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Maria Shriver
Well, I think, you know, look, the truth is, I think it's a beautiful time to be a woman, as I say to my daughters. And I think you can be tender and strong.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Yeah.
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Maria Shriver
You can be smart and sexy. When I was coming up in journalism, you had to have big shoulder pads, be buttoned up, be serious, be tough and be like little men, Right? Because, you know, you weren't allowed to be all of who you are. And I think today you can be a loving, nurturing, nourishing mom. And if you're gonna go and advocate at Capitol Hill, you've gotta be strong. You've gotta be, you know, wild in a way. You've gotta be incredibly confident. And I think we now live in a time where you're okay holding all of these different parts of yourself. The great security and insecurity, your tenderness and your toughness, your smartness and your sexiness, your sexuality and your sensuality. And I think that's what it means to be a fully evolved woman. For me, or I say to my sons, you can be strong and gentle. You also can hold these different paradoxes. And so I can be very, kind of tender and. But when I'm gonna go and speak on behalf of women's health and research, or I'm gonna go speak on behalf of Alzheimer's or caregivers, I'm gonna put on a different suit and I'm gonna walk a different way. Cause I have a job to do. And it's a different job than when I'm putting on a diaper.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Well, I read the. I love reading the physical book while also listening to the audiobook.
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Maria Shriver
Oh, that's interesting.
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Jamie Kern Lima
I love doing both I love it cause I feel like it takes root in me more and when you read.
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Maria Shriver
The son is saying that he's listening.
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Jamie Kern Lima
To it on audio on audio. I love it cause you read it. I love it. When you said that line consider yourself. Or wait when you said don't let the Merri Meadows believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself warned. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained. I started giggling because I thought if that was on the dating app it would go crazy if that was like your profile.
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Maria Shriver
Oh really?
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Jamie Kern Lima
So I'm just gonna ask you because I ask this of everybody. Are you dating anybod? We need to pause for a super brief break and while we do, take a moment to share this episode with every single person that you know who this could inspire. Because this conversation can truly be the words and inspiration they need to hear today to keep going, to remember that they matter, and to feel less alone and more enough, more connected and more worthy. In life, you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self worth. When you build your self worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book, Worthy how to believe you are enough and transform your life for you. If you have some self doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, Worthy is for you. In Worthy, you'll learn proven tools and simple steps that bring life changing results. Like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back, build unshakable self love, unlearn the lies that lead to self doubt and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness, overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome, achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them and so much more. Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be? Imagine a life with zero self doubt and unshakable self worth. Get your copy of Worthy plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you@worthybook.com or the link in the show notes below. Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you. It's time to find out. With Worthy, who you spend time around is so important as energy is contagious and so is self belief. And I'd love to hang out with you even more. Especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration. Which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you delivered straight to your inbox each and every Tuesday morning from me. If you haven't signed up to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiekernlima.com to make sure you're on the list and you'll get your one on one with Jamie weekly newsletter and get ready to believe in you. If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration, some tips, tools, joy and love hitting your inbox. I'm your girl. Subscribe@jamiekernlima.com or in the link in the show notes. Do you struggle with negative self talk? Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know because I spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful and when you learn to take control over your self talk, it's life changing and I wanted to give you a free resource that I created for you if this is something that could benefit your Life. It's called 5 Ways to Overcome Negative Self Talk and Build Self Love and it's a free how to guide to overcome that negative self talk to build confidence and develop unshakable self love so that you can and dream big and keep going in the pursuit of your goals. Don't let self sabotaging thoughts hinder your progress any longer. It's time to rewrite the script of your life, one filled with self love, resilience and unwavering belief. If you're ready to take charge of your narrative, build unwavering confidence and empower yourself to persevere on the path to your dreams. You can grab your free guide to Stop overthinking and and learn to Trust yourself at jamiekernlima.com resources or click the link in the show notes below. And now more of this incredible conversation together. So I'm just gonna ask you, because I ask this of everybody, are you dating anybody?
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Maria Shriver
I don't know. I've never been on a dating app in my life. I was actually I was with Annie Lamott in San Francisco on my tour and her husband Neil and they were saying that they met on a dating app. And so I was I'm always. I'm a frustrated matchmaker myself and I'm a big believer in relationships and love and I've just kind of gotten to the place now where I'm thinking, oh, you know, I don't know, maybe, but my life is really full. And yeah, I'm not looking, but I'm open. I'm open to whatever God sends my way. But my kids have kidded around going, we should make you a dating app. I'm like, absolutely not. I mean, what do you call it? A dating profile. But now that I have a line I could put on there, maybe that's a good one. No, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm finally good on my own, and that's taken a tremendous amount. And I have a lot of. I have a beautiful life that I'm deeply grateful for, and that feels really good and really full and full of love. I used to think that love came only in an intimate, romantic package. And it made me miss out on all the love that was being offered to me through my friends and through other people. And I've now realized that there's so many different ways to access the love that is there for us, the love that exists for us because we're so focused on, quote, dating, right? Or your marriage partner, and that nobody can give you everything you're looking for. And so I'm really focused on expanding, expanding my notion of love, expanding the amount of people that are in my open field, so to speak, that bring me love. And so whomever I end up with, if I do end up with someone that way, they're gonna be a village. They're gonna be in a village.
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Jamie Kern Lima
They're gonna be so blessed. So blessed and so lucky.
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Maria Shriver
You know what's been interesting as I've gone out into, you know, whatever, the tour out into different states and different cities universally, people are experiencing their own lives. People are talking about how do they reinvent themselves after the loss of a spouse or after a divorce. How do people. The questions that come from the crowds are, I just lost my job or I just retired, or my company downsized, or my husband died, or I'm a stranger from my kid, or I don't share, you know, my husband's political opinions, and it's causing a lot of trouble.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Big one.
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Maria Shriver
Yeah. Or I'm struggling with a child with mental health. People come up to me all the time about, my mother was just diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Can you find me a neurologist? Where's the best home that I can put my dad or mom in? Is there a clinical trial that I can put my parent in? Where do I get a diagnosis? Where do I get a caregiver? I can't find a doctor who will help me with perimenopause. Can you direct me to a women's health doctor? Can you help me with a daughter who has pcos? And so I know that that's what people are experiencing, or I, too, have heartbreak. I, too, have gone to therapy. I, too, have tried plant medicine. I, too, have been to a psychic. I, too, you know, have a deep faith, or I've left, lost my faith, or I've dropped out of the church, or I'm trying to find my way back to the church. Do you know, a good church? Which tells me that that's, you know, people want to live meaningful lives. I talk a lot about what is a meaningful life. I talk a lot about what is a brain, healthy life. But, you know, I think at the end of the day, what is a meaningful life and how do I live it? And I think that's what people are trying to do. They're trying to find love. They're trying to keep love. They're trying to be a good parent. They're trying to put food on the table. They're trying to be good sons and daughters in their 50s.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Yeah.
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Maria Shriver
You know, they're trying to take care of their parents, which is really hard and really expensive. So that's what.
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Jamie Kern Lima
While also being parents in between.
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Maria Shriver
So that's what people come up to talk to me about, you know, and all of those questions, they're heartbreaking. They're all heartbreaking. And yet they also have healing potential.
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Jamie Kern Lima
I think, to your point earlier, you know, so many people at all ages are also just starting to talk about healing, just starting to talk about their own healing journey. And I am, Maria, you share so candidly about so many. I want everyone to pick it up and read it. So I'm not gonna give away.
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Maria Shriver
And I don't want people to be scared. You know, so many people said to me, oh, my gosh, I'm scared of poetry. I'm scared, you know, it's not the poetry that you might have learned in college that you're like, what does that mean? This is. My daughter calls it reporter poetry. But it's, you know, you'll be able to read it without a doubt of understanding it.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Oh, yeah.
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Maria Shriver
And you can do it, too. And I'm a big believer that we could all write our way forward. And I think I'm also a big believer that in order to move yourself forward, you have to understand what happened in your life and who shaped you. Not with as. Somebody gave me the greatest compliment. They said, this is a book about grief without any grievances.
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Jamie Kern Lima
That's beautiful.
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Maria Shriver
Which is. I thought to myself, that's so true. I said, wow, I'm going to use that line because I could never have come up with it myself. But I wanted to write a book without any grievances about a journey home to myself, which I think is the journey we're all on. How do we come home to ourselves? What does that even mean to us? So it's a book of poems and reflections. It's a book of wisdom and insecurity. It's a book of love and loss and longing and finding our way home. And it's a book about life and.
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Jamie Kern Lima
How to find your own way home.
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Maria Shriver
Right.
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Jamie Kern Lima
Okay. Two final questions, then we'll wrap. You mentioned in the book, you talk about your journey of healing. And there's a whole section, the beginning of the book before the poetry starts. And in there you share. And I think this is one of the things Oprah said she was shocked that you shared about going to all different types of modalities of healing, from shaman to plant medicine, journey to crystals to a convent, to all of it. And what I'm curious about is, of all the things you tried, which ones do you feel worked?
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Maria Shriver
I think they all worked.
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Jamie Kern Lima
I think they all worked.
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Maria Shriver
They all worked. Yes, I think they all worked at different times. And I think I've always been incredibly curious, which is why journalism was so great for me. I've always been interested, what is out there that can help me? Who is out there that can help me? Who can I learn from? I'm always looking to, who can I learn from? Who's living life in a way that I wanna emulate? So I look at nuns, and they're doing things that I think, wow. I wanna emulate some of what they're doing out in the streets in the work of social justice, helping other people, also living in community. I think, wow, that's. And being very calm and prayerful and meditative and contemplative. Richard Rohr, I look at him contemplatives in action. I'm like, I wanna learn from that. Jack Kornfield, Trudy Goodman, Annie Lamott, writers. Mary Oliver, poets. There's so many people to learn from, which is why books are so powerful, because people put their journeys down with the hope of helping you in yours, with the hope of helping you find your way home. And so Pema Chodron helped me. Anne Mara Lindbergh helped me. Mary Oliver helped me. My friends helped me. Nun Mother Dolores helped me. Sister Joan Chittister helped me. All of these people helped me. And continue. And continue to help me.
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Jamie Kern Lima
That's so beautiful. And I think for every person listening or watching, I just want to call that out. I'VE always loved the idea that success leaves clues and about being a lifelong success and just the gift, right? The gift of all of that. And for everyone watching or listening, who's like, wow, okay. She has all these titles and awards, you know, Peabody Award, Emmy Award, Lifetime Achievement Award for the Alzheimer's Association. So many awards. Gracie Award. All of it. All of the titles. And what your mom did and your dad did and your family and just all of it. And you're. To the place where you're like, I am Maria. That is enough. And so for the person listening who wants to fill in their name, and I love when you say on the Sunday paper and in so many places, I am Maria. Who are you? Like, nice to meet you. And so for the person who's listening and watching us right now and who's like, huh? Actually, I kind of want to, yes, cherish all the things in my life, but also go, well, wait a minute. Who am I? And how do I. Whether it start on my own journey to believing I'm enough, or how do I just truly embrace that who I am is enough? What do you say to them?
- [35:29]
Maria Shriver
Well, I think just try it. Just start by saying, I am Jamie. Pause, full stop. Stop right there. You know, I am Maria. And just try that on. Even in front of the mirror, just saying just that. Introducing yourself just that way. And then holding. Holding right there with it. You don't have to fill it in, in any way.
- [35:56]
Jamie Kern Lima
Yeah.
- [35:57]
Maria Shriver
And I think that people, when you start filling in, like, I never fill in with I'm this, that, or the other. I'm, you know, a woman. I'm a woman in evolution. I'm curious. Right. I'm loving, I'm kind, I'm open. I'm a friend. Right. I'm loved. And I'm loved. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm strong, I'm weak, I'm tough, I'm tender. I'm all of these things. Who are you? And I think that, you know, just holding space.
- [36:28]
Jamie Kern Lima
I have chills. I have chills with you saying that.
- [36:31]
Maria Shriver
Oh, really?
- [36:32]
Jamie Kern Lima
Yeah. And even the pause of that, too.
- [36:34]
Maria Shriver
Yeah.
- [36:35]
Jamie Kern Lima
Saying, I am Jamie.
- [36:37]
Maria Shriver
Full stop.
- [36:43]
Jamie Kern Lima
Maria Shriver, I love you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me so much. I want. God bless you. I want thank. And I want to say this. Thank you for your friendship. Thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your championship of things that matter so much. Thank you for being a living, breathing example to all of us of just how we can embrace who we are and also put our faith and our love and our calling and our action and our anointing in motion. Thank you for all of that.
- [37:13]
Maria Shriver
Amen.
- [37:14]
Jamie Kern Lima
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