B (3:29)

Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima.

A (3:42)

Empowered women empower women and today we've got an empowered woman who's going to empower you on the show. You've heard her say you've got a deal on ABC's hit show Shark Tank for 16 seasons. Barbara Corcoran is an Emmy Award winning shark and Executive producer on the show. She's the founder of the Corcoran Group and her journey to this moment we're all sharing together right now is nothing short of remarkable. Barbara is one of 10 kids raised in a two bedroom home. She struggled with dyslexia, got straight Ds in school and had 20 jobs by the time she turned 23. She then borrowed $1,000 and quit her job as a waitress to start a small real estate company in New York City. She grew the Corcoran Group into the largest and best known brand in the brokerage business and Barbara became one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the country. From $1,000 loan to a billion dollar business and now she's invested in more than 100 businesses to date. She's also so sharp, quick witted and so, so funny. Plus there's something she did to me behind the scenes on Shark Tank that I'm going to share with you that made my jaw hit the floor and made my soul explode like a giant heart emoji. I am so excited for this conversation. Barbara Corcoran, welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

B (5:20)

I'm looking forward to it so much. Thank you so much.

A (5:22)

I'm so excited and I just love you and thank you for Being here, this show is going to be. I already know it, Such a blessing and so inspiring to so many people. So you've shared a lot about sort of the pain growing up of being teased at school, like dyslexia. Oh, yeah. Because a lot of people right now, whatever age they are, they're carrying around labels. Right. For me, I carried around the label. I'm not enough most of my life until I realized, oh, my gosh.

B (5:48)

Because who gave you that label? It comes from somewhere.

A (5:51)

Yeah. I think for me, I had loving parents. I would not change a thing. They worked a lot. So I always kind of felt like I had to measure up. Yeah. And do something great for them to show up. So I have.

B (6:04)

You have. You have nothing to worry about.

A (6:07)

But now I recognize, oh, wow. That label. And I want to take. And so, you know, for people right now listening or watching that maybe have a child with a learning disability or dyslexia, what's your advice for them right now?

B (6:22)

Well, I have deep thoughts about dyslexia, the pluses and the minuses, et cetera. I've come to believe, Wolf, in my life, it's proven plus. But I also have two dyslexic children that I was a parent to, and I was tailor made for them. I had two clunkers. When I got my second daughter and I found out she had extreme learning disabilities, I thought, ah, another clunker. Gosh. So. But I was perfectly made for them to bring out the best of each of those children. And they're phenomenally successful already. And they're very well balanced and very secure. That's all you want with kids, to make them secure. Unfortunately, dyslexia battles comfort in a child. It's a way of judging a child when they're too young, get the label too young, and it makes them feel like you said, less than. And so for dyslexia, for me, I was a dunce in the class because I couldn't read till seventh grade. So I got that label early, that I was a dunce. And when Sister Selmarie, the nun from hell, actually told me I was always going to be stupid in second grade because I could never learn to read or write, I believed it because the kids believe this stuff. But thank God for my mother. She told me I was a genius and I'd learned to fill in all the blanks, and she was right. I became a bullshitter of the best way. You know? Are you allowed to say bullshit on your show?

A (7:40)

Sure.

B (7:41)

Okay. I don't want to Censor in any way. I had to gut her mouth a little bit, you know. All right.

A (7:46)

But that skillset sure paid off.

B (7:49)

Let me tell you, without dyslexia, I would not be nearly as successful as I am. Dyslexic kids have gifts, true gifts that other kids don't have. They're very intuitive because they've gone through the pain of being looked down upon. It sharpens your intuition very much so your empathy. It definitely does. You can size people up faster than the other kid in the town. However, you can size up a book, you know. But what's more important, sizing up people, getting along with people. Very often people who are severely dyslexic are great talkers. I'm a great talker. I can't read, but I sure can talk. Okay. And most importantly, when you put down as a kid, you want to get even. If you have any gumption, you want to get even. And my whole life has been one long attempt to prove to everybody that I'm not stupid. Isn't that stupid that I would still be worried about that? But I'm always worried about not having the answer or being called on and stuttering and all the painful things being made to read out loud. That's helped to me at board meetings. Could you read this report? No, I pass on to the next person. I'm not getting caught in that again, you know, But I think because you're coming out of a hole, you have more fervor. And interesting enough on all the businesses I've invested in. Shark Tank, by far my most successful, are all owned by dyslexic people. Now, maybe because I picked them on purpose, but know this, they're not book smart, but they're street smart. And I think that just is not an accident. But as long as you have a great parent who makes you believe in yourself, I mean, I had that in my mother. If she didn't tell me I was a genius all the time, she didn't tell me all the time I had a wonderful imagination. If she didn't put me in situations to demonstrate my wonderful imagination, who cared about that? Except she cared. That's where I got my confidence from. And where do I get my work ethic from really, is knowing I had a liability and I had to work harder than everybody else. But I got used to working hard. I'm a great worker. No problem. What was terrible as a kid became my assets as I became older.

A (9:54)

And then to be a parent to two kids with dyslexia, oh, they're great. Yeah.

B (9:59)

I kept my eye on one ball, raising Tommy and Kate. Self confidence, that's all I wanted to do. If I keep that confidence there, it's a home run. Don't worry about anything. It's a home run. And I also learned from my mother, with all children, not just children that struggle in school, with all children, I think you have to let them fail. We are in a culture that you don't want to let a kid fail. Get a special tutor, talk to the teacher, whatever. My mother was a believer in letting us fail because she wanted to nurture our gene of getting back up, and she certainly did. She always said getting back up is where it's at, not excelling. I'm surprised I even tried to excel, but she made getting back up sound so good, you know?

A (10:40)

Yeah. Do you think, Barbara, like, do you believe our setbacks or hardships are happening for us in the sense of, like, when you look at what you've gone through in the case of dyslexia, and then the skillset that you built, and then now you are a parent and probably have such insight into doing that, do you believe in that? Do you believe, like, our steps are divinely ordered?

B (11:03)

Of course.

A (11:04)

Is there a role faith plays in your life?

B (11:06)

How else could you explain things? There are so many things that are startling in life and you don't know how you got there. Bad things that happen that turn into the best things in your life. I mean, thank God Ray married my secretary. He's still on 51% of my company. He wasn't really doing anything in the company. You know, thank God it was dyslexic to learn the skills to deal with feeling like a loser, being a loser, and having the empathy to turn that into great management skill. Because that's exactly what it did. I could walk through my sales staff at any given office. We had like maybe 300 desks, sea of people. And I could stand there and I could feel the vibe of someone who was failing. I know I was like a witch's instinct. I walk up eight desks down, put my hand on the shoulder of the person, say, hey, how you doing? And they were all set to quit. They always told me that. I was just thinking that I could feel that wasn't like, they looked sad. I could just feel the vibe. You don't get that unless you have an acute sense of harmony in your own body of something that happened. My harm came from. Don't call on me. Don't have me read out loud. It Was so it was my idea of hell on earth. I mean, so painful as a kid. But I had my great mother after 3:30.

A (12:24)

Yeah.

B (12:25)

I could go to her and be wonderful in front of her.

A (12:28)

Well, we all get to watch you use that skill set in the tank. And, you know, I was shocked to learn this. I did not know this. And I connected with you on such a. When I learned this that you initially were gonna be a shark on Shark Tank season one.

B (12:46)

Yes.

A (12:46)

And then all of a sudden they said, you're out. You're not. It was essentially a rejection. Of course it was from shark Tank. You were out.

B (12:53)

Yes.

A (12:54)

And most people learning, oh, they didn't pick me anymore.

B (12:57)

Yeah. That was funny.

A (12:57)

Would have went and cried. Would have. Whatever. But will you share what you did when you got word that they're not picking you for season?

B (13:04)

You know, I hadn't already signed the contract, but it's one way I didn't think about that. I had already told my friends and family I was going to Hollywood. They were. Whoa, Hollywood. Yeah. I already bought my real leather luggage so I looked like I belonged there. You know, I'd done all that in my head. And when they told me a week before my flight that they had picked someone else, there was only room for one woman and they had chosen another woman, I was shocked. I did what everybody does, I think when you are met with hardships. I felt sorry for myself. I was also thinking, what am I going to tell my family, friends? How embarrassing. I tasted it. I could see it. When I could see things, they always come true for me. And I thought, this is the first time it's not coming true. How could that be? How could that. I mean, why would they pick another woman? Why didn't they tell me, Sudo? Why didn't they? Why? And then I got control of myself and I just got angry. And that's also a trait of mine. And I sat down and write a very curtailed but impactful text to Mark Burnett himself saying he had made a mistake. And everything in my life happened on the heels of failure. And I'd like to have him invite me out to compete with the other lone female shark and let the best woman win. Which is a little aggressive, I realize. And I gave him my reasons why I was so good when my back was against the wall, including the Trump story, including sister Stella Marie, including the old boy network who wouldn't let me into their club until I became the number one rival. I put it all out there, short, rewrote it, and Send it. And the next day, I was called and told to come out and compete. Let me tell you, you know what it's like out of Shark Tank because you've been a guest shark. You know how they put your name in the gold star on the trailer? So, you know you have your own gold star in a trailer even though they're dumpy and all.

A (14:49)

Yeah.

B (14:50)

But when they took the other lady's gold star off at lunchtime, I was like, wow. But the lesson there was I was doing what I always do well. When the chips are down, I know how to come back. I had formed a habit of trying hard, and, God, was it a great day.

A (15:07)

You put your. I just.

B (15:09)

Feeling sorry is just terrible. It's the worst hindrance in anyone. A victim role. A victim role is like giving away your full power.

A (15:17)

Yeah.

B (15:18)

For anything. I'm a victim. Take my power, you know? No way.

A (15:23)

So in that moment, like, you competed for your spot, you got that spot. Season one. Now, 16 seasons later, we're sitting here talking about it.

B (15:30)

Yeah.

A (15:30)

Thank God. The lesson there, I just connected with so profoundly because I hear from so many people, they're like, oh, things aren't going my way. They said no again. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. Getting rejection or rejected doesn't mean you're not going to crush it in that role. It's no indication you're not going to make it.

B (15:46)

Absolutely.

A (15:47)

And it's like how we handle rejection. Right. Our relationship with rejection, the meaning.

B (15:52)

So personality.

A (15:54)

Yeah. And look what you did. You were like, okay, I just got rejected. Instead of just going away, I'm going to write Mark Burnett a letter.

B (16:01)

I didn't do it so fast. Remember, my first thought was, what's wrong with me?

A (16:04)

Right, right, right, right.

B (16:05)

That was my first thought. Oh, gosh. I guess I'm not good enough. I guess I'm not. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

A (16:10)

And how. What. How many. How much time between that feeling and then you deciding to write the letter?

B (16:17)

Well, I gave myself a good 10 minutes to feel sorry for myself. I figured I might as well enjoy it for a little while. It feels good to be sorry for yourself, you know? Poor me.

A (16:27)

And rejection sucks. I mean, I still feel hurt when I get it, and I reframe it right away, but I don't take it personally. Nope, don't take it personally.

B (16:35)

Don't you take it personally? Initially, I always go to that.

A (16:38)

Sometimes I'm getting more. And I feel like the more we put in the reps in life.

B (16:42)

Well, your money in the bank helps you.

A (16:44)

Yeah. Yeah. And enough times where kind of like what we were talking about earlier, I look back, I'm like, thank God that dude broke up with me, because that would have been a disaster. Or thank God that investor didn't think women would buy makeup from, you know, people that had my body type. I mean, I've had every type of rejection, but I look back and it's like, okay, now, you know, it's all happening for me. And now, 16 seasons later, have you ever. You know, have you ever had a fight with another shark that lasted beyond the set?

B (17:18)

No. It lasts about three minutes. You know, it's a competitive set, you know.

A (17:21)

Yeah.

B (17:22)

Sometimes I can't get my word in because I have a smaller voice than Laurie and most of the. All the men, actually. So it's very hard for me to break in. You almost have to be rude and just charge in, which is not my nature. So I've learned to be more rude, actually, on Shark Tank. But no, the minute you have a drink at the end of the day, if you have a drink by yourself or with the sharks, it's gone.

A (17:41)

Yeah.

B (17:42)

There's no reason you're in a foxhole together for, what is it, 16 years? No, we're brothers, sisters. Come on.

A (17:49)

Doing deals together, all of it. I had the best time. And I know I can't share what deals I did yet, but I love that I did a few deals. I know I can't share details.

B (17:59)

Wait, we did a deal together?

A (18:01)

Yes, we did.

B (18:02)

How's it going?

A (18:02)

Yes, we did.

B (18:03)

Good.

A (18:04)

Great. Yeah, Everything's great. I just was so grateful how welcoming you are. You're welcome, you know, and also, like, listen, you know, everybody. Everyone has seen and felt when they walk in somewhere and they feel like they're not welcome or they don't belong or especially. Unfortunately, there's still a lot of mean girls out there. And women that think, like, oh, you know, they get competitive versus going, oh, you know what? You know, I'm really securing my power, and I'm gonna pour into another woman. And that's why I think it was. So I almost got emotional before the show started because for you to walk in up to me, for you to. For you to give me a cheat sheet to help me with questions if I needed it, for you to raise me up that way. I just felt like you. Like your intention was just to multiply my impact, and that felt really, really good and really special. Have you ever. Have you always been that way or have you ever been. Have you ever been a mean girl? Have you ever been, like a petty?

B (19:10)

I didn't have the confidence to be a mean girl. You have to be, whether it be true or not. You have to be secure in your seat. I think to be a mean girl. No, I think I'm more of the cut of cloth like my mom. If she had a neighbor in our small town that was obnoxious, she made her point too much. So actually, it was almost hard to watch, to really understand the lady and invite her in for tea. And it's like, what's she doing here? But I think she paid it forward, you know, she did for others. Well, what the Christians always say, two brothers, what you want them to do to you. She was very good in that way. I just did for you what I wish somebody had done for me on my first day on the set. Because suppose Kevin O'Leary and Robert Herjavec had had three years of practice in Canada, and they didn't tell Damon and I. Lori was not yet there. They didn't tell us that these sharks that were stuck on the set on day one had this vast background. They were like machine guns firing those questions. And Damon and I just sat there. Ah, took us a while to even get a question down. So I was just paying it forward, so to speak. You know, it pays off. It makes the world a friendly place.

A (20:20)

Yeah. And I believe that through and through. I believe, you know, we get back what we give. And sometimes it's not immediately, but it always happens. It always happens. A golden rule. I believe that.

B (20:31)

Well, sometimes I go too far. Yesterday I decided I was going to say hello to every single person in the street that I met in the four blocks to my office. Let me tell you, just be friendly and smile. Especially older people that probably never had anyone talk to them. I travel those four blocks. I probably said hello in the city blocks. Probably 80, 90 people. Three said hello back.

A (20:53)

Wow.

B (20:53)

And I decided, I'm not going to do this anymore. I feel badly now. Only three people were friendly to me.

A (20:59)

I'm trying to put it on. It is New York.

B (21:00)

I know there's something else.

A (21:03)

If you come out, come visit me in California, people will say hi back to you, I promise.

B (21:07)

Yes, they do.

A (21:08)

I know that we can go to the Midwest together. We're gonna get hugs back.

B (21:11)

The south, forget about. They'll say hello to us ten times.

A (21:14)

Yes, yes. That's the best. That's really cool that you.

B (21:18)

No more hellos from me in the morning.

A (21:20)

You know. You know, I'm obsessed with self worth wrote a book called Worthy of my Life.

B (21:25)

You should be what a one there?

A (21:28)

Yeah. Do you feel right now in your life? Do you ever have moments where you feel unworthy? There's so much more coming up in this episode. You are not going to want to miss it. But first I wanted to share this with you. In life you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self worth. When you build your self worth you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book Worthy how to believe you are enough and trance form your life for you. If you have some self doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, Worthy is for you. In Worthy you'll learn proven tools and simple steps that bring life changing results like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back, build unshakable self love, unlearn the lies that lead to self doubt and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness, overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome, achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them and so much more. Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be? Imagine a life with zero self doubt and unshakable self worth. Get your copy of Worthy plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you@worthybook.com or the link in the show notes below. Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you. It's time to find out with Worthy. Imagine what would you do if you fully believed in you. My weekly free inspirational newsletter is packed with tips and tools to help you find out. It's called One on One With Jamie and it's delivered right to your inbox each Tuesday morning. It's a love letter from me to you, from my soul to yours, and I hope it brings you the words and messages you need at just the right moment. Plus, when you're a part of my free Inspirational newsletter community, you'll be the first to get behind the scenes content, inspirational messages and be the first to learn about upcoming events and more. It's the place to be and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, you can sign up for free at jamiecarnlima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now more of this incredible conversation together. Do you feel right now in your life? Do you ever have moments where you feel Unworthy all the time. All the time.

B (24:22)

I've never met anyone who was worthwhile who didn't feel unworthy. I mean people who label unworthy as something that's real, all it is is a misconception because you haven't filled your potential yet. Yeah, wait until you feel your potential. You'll see how unworthy you are and you're very worthy the minute you get what you want. I think the danger to feeling unworthy is to believe it. Just to believe it is so damaging. Just think of it as an old tape that's got to be replaced. I mean, I say it cavalier in a way, but I, but I so have practiced it and believed it. So I'm not just blowing smoke here. Yeah, it's everything. It's really. Your self worth is everything. But people think that, that kids, even I advanced all the time by parents. How do you teach your children self confidence, especially if they have a disability and learning in any kind? And I always say the same old thing because I really believe it. Teach them to try. Don't teach them to win. Say you're not going to win. You probably won't even do well. But you got to go out there and try. You got to try. I will out try anyone, anyone in the universe and try harder than anybody else and I'll win because of it. But while you're feeling unworthy, you don't feel like you have the right to try. You form a new habit of yourself if you just try. The reason I'm confident is because I know I'll out try anybody. I know I'll always show up. I know I'll get back up. That's what teach me self confidence. But still there are times where you feel unworthy, intimidating. And as long as it doesn't happen all the time, keeps you honest. But I think it's a trait you have to learn to undo and replace with something else by trying. Just trying.

A (26:02)

Yeah. That's so good. Yeah. I've always kind of felt, at least for me so far, it's like a lifelong journey, you know, because I still have those feelings almost every day.

B (26:12)

I'm happy to hear that.

A (26:13)

Are you?

B (26:14)

Yes, I am.

A (26:14)

I'm happy.

B (26:15)

Lucy loves company.

A (26:17)

I know, right? But it's good. I think it's. I think sometimes people feel like they're doomed if they feel it. It's like, no, no, no. We all feel it. And then here's what we do about it. Here's what we do about it.

B (26:26)

As long as you do something about It. I think that's key. Not well in it.

A (26:31)

For your 70th birthday, you held a mock funeral.

B (26:34)

Yes, I did.

A (26:35)

Can you share?

B (26:37)

It was fun, a lot of fun.

A (26:39)

Can you share your thoughts and intentions behind that? And it was well thought out. Yeah, tell me about it. Tell me about it.

B (26:46)

It was a lot of work to begin with, but I heard that my friends were going to give me a surprise 70th birthday party. I didn't want to be 70, and I sure as heck didn't want a surprise that I wasn't in charge of. So I decided to let them plan the little party, get the date and surprise them. So they thought they were coming to a black tie surprise party for me. And I was going to walk in, surprise. But I surprised them because I went downstairs in my apartment, it's a duplex. And I set up the whole living room as a funeral parlor with a casket, nuns praying, priests praying. Everybody was praying. And I was laying out in a casket, an open casket, and I was dead. I wore a beautiful gown. I looked better than most dead people. And I had my makeup perfectly done, so I didn't mind showing off myself in the casket.

A (27:32)

I look good.

B (27:33)

So when the time came, once I was in the casket and they were waiting upstairs for me to arrive from a business trip to shout, surprise. My brother said, quick, she's coming downstairs. Everybody downstairs. And everybody rushed down the stairs, probably 150. So people rushed down the stairs and went to my living room. And as they turned the corner, I heard what I had hoped to hear, a gasp. As they saw dead Barbara. It was so much fun.

A (28:00)

Fun.

B (28:00)

They were shocked to see me dead. And then they realized, how could I really be dead? And little by little, they nervously started laughing. And they toasted me and said what they liked about me, what was wrong about me. And I had a rabbi give a talk. I had a priest monsignor dressed up as a talker.

A (28:19)

And were you still in the gasket? And I jumped out of this point.

B (28:21)

I'm still in the gasket. How many times can you hear what people will say about you after you did? I heard it all. I know who likes me, what they think, what I did wrong. I know it all. Even my kids talked about me. But then after everything was done and the blessing was done, I jumped out of the casket and I did the tango because I had secretly been taking lessons in my beautiful red gown. I felt so young and vital. And we had a blast of a party. But my doorman told me the Next morning, that with all the guests going in, he had looked up online and I was declared dead. What's a site where they give you your life and where you went to school? And the most common site that everybody looks at to find out about somebody.

A (29:02)

To read the obituaries and.

B (29:03)

Yeah, to me. And I was an obituary and they changed it the next day. How they thought I was dead, I don't know.

A (29:10)

That is wild.

B (29:12)

It was fun.

A (29:12)

That is.

B (29:13)

But I can never give another birthday party because I can't think of a better one.

A (29:16)

How are you going to do a better one?

B (29:18)

I'm not going to do one. They're always pushing me. My friends, my family. Come on, we need a great party. And you know how to give them. I give great parties, but I can't think of anything better. If you come up with an idea, send it my way. I will do it.

A (29:30)

Why didn't you want to turn 70?

B (29:32)

Because 70 to me sounded like an old lady, whereas 60, I convinced myself wasn't an old lady. So just that one year, and I had accomplished everything in my life that I should. But more and more people started asking me when I was going to retire, which wasn't good. No, I don't think I'm going to retire. I just felt like all the signals I was misinterpreting around me, misinterpreting, really saw them through my new slanted eyes. 70. 70. 70. And I didn't want to go there. Once you pass your birthday, then you're 71, then 72, easy. You don't mind at all. 75 didn't even hurt. Now I'm 76.

A (30:10)

What are your priorities in life now and do you see them changing in the next decade or two?

B (30:16)

They are changing because, unlike you, I have older children. They're 30 and 19. Kate is 19, and my son is married with two children. So my priority is, I hate to admit it, on my grandchildren. I didn't think I'd be that kind of a older lady where I live for my grandchildren. But they're so darn cute and they love you so much you can't help yourself. So that's my first priority. My kids are my second priority, to stay close to them. And then my third priority is to live life to the fullest so that I don't go to sleep on it. That's all. Whatever that. Whatever that might entail.

A (30:49)

Yeah, yeah. Do people ask you about that a lot, about retiring?

B (30:52)

All the time.

A (30:53)

You never get your. Never.

B (30:55)

When are you going to retire? Why why would I want to retire? I love my work. I love what I'm doing. Do I look that old? No, not really. Just wondering. Because everyone I have as a friend now, even the younger friends are all retired. And that's amazing to me. I mean, they're keeping busy and they're having a great life and they're more free to travel when they want than I am. And sometimes I get envious and I think, why, if I didn't have my work, what I would do tomorrow morning? What, read the paper an extra time or two? No, I don't think so. Yeah, not worth it.

A (31:26)

What does success mean to you?

B (31:28)

Being successful? I think it's. Well, for me, maybe I'm too needy, but it's really being able to look at yourself or your life and think that people really like you for the right reasons, that you've helped people. Not that I'm a Pollyanna, but I do help a lot of people through Shark Tank, without a doubt. I get people to believe in themselves. I've helped all the people I employed over the years to sort of really have the satisfaction of feeling like you did something worthwhile. I think it's feeling like you did the right things in life.

A (32:01)

Yeah.

B (32:02)

Yeah. To help other people. It's never the stuff you get. It's never the false feedback you get. It's always a genuine somebody saying thanks or not saying thanks. And, you know, they. They were really helped by you.

A (32:16)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (32:17)

I didn't even expect to thank you anymore for anything. It's just a detail. That's what you feel about it yourself. That's counts.

A (32:25)

Just the offering you put out there.

B (32:26)

Yeah, definitely.

A (32:27)

Yeah. Well, you have helped so many. Oh, my gosh, entrepreneurs and the ripple effect of all that. And also, you know, I remember when you and I did the press junket for Shark Tank and I remember learning that people would be surprised to know that you only fly coach on airplanes.

B (32:46)

Do you know what a first class ticket costs?

A (32:48)

You probably do, right?

B (32:49)

You probably don't look. Yeah, I look.

A (32:51)

Yeah.

B (32:52)

Listen, the way I figure it is a coach ticket is about 25% of a first class ticket. I get the free miles. I could give them away. I have everybody in my family flying on my free miles. What's more important, that everybody gets vacations or that I'm comfortable in first class? I guess I could afford to do both, but I won't because I'll be in coach feeling really smug because I know I have three plane tickets that could take somebody somewhere. Well, it accumulates you know, you see.

A (33:18)

I love just sharing this with the world. I know people can know this or guess it or assume it, but your generosity and when you talk about your homes. Right. You said the one thing you love is homes. Yeah. You have this scheduling system where people that you know and love are always staying at all your different homes. So they're all being used.

B (33:37)

There's not a single bed in any of my homes that's ever empty.

A (33:41)

How amazing is that?

B (33:42)

No. Can I tell you what is more satisfying than someone saying, thank you, we had a blast. You don't even know who the we is. Extended family, their family, whatever. We had a blast. And people have a blast in my ski chalet. It's big. If it's a lot of people, they go to my beach house. I don't mean to brag about how many houses they come to. New York City, wherever I live, never an empty bed. And boy, is that satisfying. I mean, what really happens? The more money you have, the less you use your homes. That's the truth. You sleep there very few nights and they go to waste. What a shame. I wouldn't keep them if they went to it.

A (34:15)

Empty bed, you never.

B (34:17)

Well, once in a while someone cancels, but I don't take to it well because someone else could have used that bet if they had told me sooner.

A (34:24)

Just like three other people could have had a seat on this plane.

B (34:27)

You got it.

A (34:27)

Yeah. What is something that people would be shocked to know about Shark Tank and don't know Shark Tank?

B (34:35)

I think a lot of people don't know that when you see at home a Shark Tank pitch, It's usually about eight minutes, sometimes 12 minutes long. And you know yourself from being on Shark Tank as a guest Shark, that the pitches can run an hour and a half long at times an hour, typically 45 minutes. So it's all edited down. So I think what I hear from so many people is, how do you decide so fast? How did. We had an hour, hour and a half to decide? We didn't have the eight minutes, you know, that you think you saw on Shark Tank. So I think people are surprised at how long the taping actually is. And you know how tedious those days are. How many hours are they? 12 hour days between makeup and appearing and getting off the set, it's like 12 hour days, day after day. But we get to learn a lot about the entrepreneur that the person at home does not know about.

A (35:20)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have to say it's an honor for me to get to Know you behind the scenes, to know that you're as amazing. Even more amazing.

B (35:31)

Come on, you're in.

A (35:33)

No, it's really. It's beautiful. I feel, Barbara, in my life now. I feel blessed to have met a lot of people that I think are wonderful. And you don't always see that congruency when you meet them in real life. Yeah.

B (35:46)

Oh, really?

A (35:46)

You're just like your heart and your generosity and you're such a badass. That's crushed it in business. That doesn't take you know what from anybody. And yet you're also an empowered woman who empowers other women. You care about other people. You're so generous. The ripple effect of everything you continue to do and will continue to do for a long time.

B (36:05)

Listen, the ripple effect just happens. Honestly, it just is a. It just happens. But the one that I was always interested was winning. Honestly, the ripple just came because I won. I'm very happy. I won.

A (36:17)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (36:18)

I'm not sure.

A (36:18)

And you've won a lot. You've won a lot.

B (36:21)

I have.

A (36:21)

You've won a lot.

B (36:22)

I continue to win. You continue to win, and I continue to lose.

A (36:25)

Yeah.

B (36:25)

What else is there?

A (36:26)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (36:27)

Makes it interesting.

A (36:28)

Well, thank you for being so welcoming, so loving, so inspiring for me. I'm grateful that I came to my hometown. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm grateful my Shark Tank experience was alongside of you.

B (36:45)

I'm sure you'll be back because the producer loved you. I'm sure he'll be back. Make sure you ask for the order because the crowded field asked me back. Ask me back through someone else so you don't have to hear a potential rejection. Just get them to keep asking. That's what I do.

A (37:00)

Yeah. It's so funny. I'm like, I think you and I are similar this way. I'm so fearless about rejection now. I've just had it so many times that it does not faze me, but. Yeah, but thank you for that ask. You told me that you said, ask me back right away. So I will officially ask to be back on the Tank. I did love it, but you were a big part of that, too, and I just want to honor you and just say thank you for the incredible woman, icon, legend, business boss, badass, and amazing grandma that you are, and I'm just excited to celebrate you for decades to come. All that you continue to win at. Yes, it is. If you love today's episode, my only ask is that you please click the follow or subscribe button for this show on your app. And give it a rating or review and then share this episode with everyone you believe in. Share it with another person in your life who could benefit from it, post it and share it with others online or in your community who just might need the words and tools and lessons in this episode today. You never know whose life you're meant to change today by sharing this episode. Thank you so much for joining me today. Before you go, I want to share some words with you that couldn't be more true. You right now, exactly as you are, are enough and fully worthy. You're worthy of your greatest hopes, your wildest dreams and all the unconditional love in the world. And it's an honor to welcome you to each and every episode of the Jamie Kern Lima show here. I hope you'll come as you are and heal where you need, blossom what you choose, journey toward your calling and stay as long as you'd like because you belong here. You are worthy. You are loved. You are love. I love you and I cannot wait to join you on the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Do you struggle with negative self talk? Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know because I spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful and when you learn to take control over your self talk, it's life changing and I wanted to give you a free resource that I created for you if this is something that could benefit your Life. It's called 5 Ways to Overcome Negative Self Talk and Build self Love and it's a free how to guide to overcome that negative self talk to build confidence and develop unshakable self love so that you can dream big and keep going in the pursuit of your goals. Don't let self sabotaging thoughts hinder your progress any longer. It's time to rewrite the script of your life, one filled with self love, resilience and unwavering belief. If you're ready to take charge of your narrative, build unwavering confidence and empower yourself to persevere on the path to your dreams, you can grab your free guide to stop overthinking and learn to trust yourself at jamie kern lima.com resources or click the link in the show notes below. Who you spend time around is so important as energy is contagious and so is self belief. And I'd love to hang out with you even more, especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration. Which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you delivered straight to your inbox from me. If you haven't signed up to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiecarnlima.com to make sure you're on the list and you'll get your one on one with Jamie weekly newsletter and get ready to believe in you. If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration, some tips, tools, joy and love hitting your inbox. I'm your girl. Subscribe@jimiecurrenlima.com or in the link in the show notes.

B (41:26)

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A (41:28)

You know why?

B (41:29)

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A (41:57)

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B (43:31)

This book is going to change lives.

A (43:33)

This book literally will teach you how to actually feel worthy so that you can have the strength you can have the confidence, the lessons in this book and the strategies will change your life. You will never be the same again after you read this book.

B (43:45)

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A (43:56)

Jamie's book Worthy is incredible. The gifts are going away but they're off free right now on worthybook.com it's such an honor to share this podcast together with you. And please note, I'm not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist or other qualified professional. If you love this incredible episode with Barbara Corcoran, I promise you you are going to also love this life changing episode of the Jamie Kern Lima show with Oprah where we talk about how to hear your intuition, tap into your purpose and ignite your best life. It's up next just for.