Have you ever thought you were headed in one direction, only to find yourself on a completely different path? That's exactly what happened to me at the Modern Elder Academy (M.E.A.) as part of a leadership accelerator program. I went in expecting a DEEP dive into business, but what I found was something far more profound: a complete shift in the way I see personal growth and transformation.

This isn’t your typical “business as usual” episode—it’s my personal reflection into how we grow, transform, and evolve as entrepreneurs and individuals. I’ll be sharing personal stories (including that one time I went on a three-hour hike in high tops) and practical takeaways that you can apply to your business and life today.

This episode is my way of keeping a promise I made years ago: to share what I’ve learned so you can avoid some of the mistakes I’ve made and grow your business with clarity and purpose!

Click play to hear all of this and:

(00:03:01) How a hike through New Mexico ended up not being about nature (at all) but about uncovering deeper connections and unexpected clarity

(00:06:01) Biggest takeaways from the M.E.A. experience and how they reshaped the way I approach life and business

(00:06:58) Why the questions you’re asking yourself might be the very thing holding you back—or propelling you forward

(00:08:00) The power of having a “wisdom book” as the secret weapon you didn’t know you needed

(00:10:40) Redefining disappointment and learning to use it as a tool for recalibrating expectations and reality

(00:12:33) The concept of liminality—the in-between space where growth and clarity often begin

(00:13:37) The anatomy of transformation, starting with the courageous act of letting go

(00:17:09) Navigating the messy middle—the hardest yet most transformative part of any big change

(00:20:25) The key ingredient for stepping into the next chapter of your life

(00:24:20) The difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset and why it matters in transitional moments

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Growing in Life + Business: What I'm Learning in the Messy Middle