Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (1:29)

Died because he said he was going to help.

Stu Peters (1:31)

This looks like a Bay of Pigs to me.

Jimmy Dore (1:33)

So what he's doing there is he's advocating for Donald Trump to get involved to protect the lives of quote, unquote, protesters in Iran. He does not understand anything about what he's talking about because those protesters were infiltrated by Mossad. They had Starlink machines. They had. They were given ammunition and guns and rifles. And that was a Mossad. They were bragging about it on social media just like all Zionists. They can't help but brag about their crimes. And. And they were doing it. So this was. And these. And by the way, if there was anything to them being real protests, it was because the United States did a sanction job on them in December, which crashed their economy and devalued their dollar. And that's why people would be out there, because we're doing warfare, which is economic warfare, which is illegal under UN Charter international law. And we did that so we could collapse their economy, which we did it. And so anyway, he doesn't know anything about what he's talking. Just so you let you know, he's advocating boots on the ground in Iran to protect the Mossad fake protesters in Iran.

Mike McRae (2:42)

He's Been told he has dinner with Netanyahu on the regular. I know, I have friends that work for him. He's been told to say that like all these other shitheads.

Jimmy Dore (2:49)

So. So his jumping off point is the is complete propaganda, Zionist propaganda. But let's listen to the rest of it.

Stu Peters (2:56)

This looks like America is going to.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (2:58)

Come and help you.

Stu Peters (2:58)

Where is it? Remember the Kurds in 91 when they thought they were going to get help from America? Vietnam could make the same claim. I mean, a lot of people have felt let down by us. I thought Trump was different. Where are you on this?

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (3:09)

Because all these bodies that I see, these body bags in Iran, I think.

Stu Peters (3:13)

A lot of those people went in the streets because they thought, oh, he said he's got our back this time.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (3:17)

Where's the help?

Stu Peters (3:18)

Well, the generals have told us that.

Kurt (3:21)

Short of sending in a massive number of troops, it will be another Iraq.

Stu Peters (3:25)

Well then what did he mean when he said, I don't know.

Kurt (3:29)

But if you look at it from.

Jimmy Dore (3:31)

A larger, if you look at it from a larger perspective, because of Israel.

Kurt (3:36)

This is one person's opinion. Because of Israel and President Trump's backing.

Jimmy Dore (3:39)

Of Israel, the Middle east is safer.

Kurt (3:41)

Than it has been in 20 years.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (3:42)

Absolutely.

Jimmy Dore (3:43)

Hamas. Hamas knees has bop eyes on its knees. I gave him credit for that. I mean, and they all agree on this.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (3:51)

Two years.

Mike McRae (3:52)

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What? In 20 years? What did he say?

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (3:55)

He said it hasn't been this safe in 20 years.

Jimmy Dore (3:58)

The Middle East.

Mike McRae (3:58)

Thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (4:02)

Yeah, well, all right, so let's say a few things here, all right? Like, number one, is it just like, what a perverse way to look at things, where he goes, donald Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize if he topples these three governments.

Jimmy Dore (4:15)

Well, let's. Let, let me.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (4:16)

That's what, that's what wins you a Nobel Peace Prize.

Jimmy Dore (4:19)

Let me play that part for you and then I'll have you respond.

Stu Peters (4:22)

And you know who is applauding us.

Kurt (4:24)

Every step of the way? Not out loud, but the Arab countries.

Stu Peters (4:27)

Look, if every one of them, if.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (4:28)

Venezuela causes Cuba to fall, if he somehow gets Venezuela, Cuba and Iran all to be not these horrible places they were, he should get a Nobel Peace Prize. Okay, so just like a few things here. Number one, when he says, you know who's thanking us privately? All the Arab countries, AKA the governments of the sock puppet states that we prop up over there. The government of the genocidal government of Saudi Arabia quietly tells us that this is what they like. Right? The guys who committed the genocide in Yemen, the same as Israel committed in Gaza. They're on board. Or Jordan or Egypt or something like that. But, like, that doesn't mean, you know, what the people of those countries think about Israel. They're 100% opposed to them. So it's not like, you know, the way they use that term countries. But then even, like to the Bill Maher thing, it's like, look, there is a little bit of a point to what he's saying. Like, it is true that Donald Trump is telling these protesters that he's got their back. Now, to your point, look, it was at front page of the Jerusalem Post that the Mossad was bragging about being involved in the street protest. So now I'm sure there's some protesters in there as well. But sure, Trump shouldn't be telling them that he's got their back or, like, in some way creating some type of moral hazard where, like, they think we're coming to back them up. But like, to Bill Maher's point, he used as one of the examples George H.W. bush in Iraq. And this is true. Right after the Persian Gulf War in the early 90s, he basically told the Kurds and the Shiites to rise up and overthrow Saddam and we'll have your back. And then he bailed at the last minute and Saddam slaughtered a whole bunch of them. So we totally did betray those people. But, okay, it was the wrong thing to do to tell them to rise up, but it was actually the right thing to do to not go through with the regime change, because we know what happened.

Jimmy Dore (6:18)

We.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (6:18)

We went through with the regime change decades later, and it led to a civil war where a million people got killed. And so it's like, Bill Maher, like, when you say have their back, that's vague. What are you suggesting here? We send in the 82nd Airborne and Occupy the country and overthrow the ayatollah and the mullahs, and then what? That's the same goddamn quagmire that we've been in in seven of these countries. And so, like, now, look, it might be possible that we're able to overthrow the government without that type of military occupation. We were able to do that in Libya and Syria, but look what happened there. An absolute catastrophe both times. Libya's had, as you know, Jimmy, you've covered this for years. They've had open air slave markets. It's been a failed state since 2010, 20 or 2009. And in Syria, we handed the place over to Al Qaeda, and they've Been Running around and killing people ever since.

Mike McRae (7:10)

Maybe we could ask them to help. And by the way, to be fair, have you ever been to a closed air slave market? It's a lot.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (7:16)

Saturday, it's a lot smellier, that's for sure.

Mike McRae (7:19)

Yes, I was trying to be discreet.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (7:26)

No, it's just all, it's all ridiculous, man. It's like it's such like a boomer way of looking at the world that it's like they never even, like they, they never even ask themselves the obvious follow up question. Just like even when they said, you know, when they said had those Israeli leaders, they're taking pictures with the Shah's kid because that's. Now we have to make the world safe for hereditary monarchy.

Mike McRae (7:51)

That was always the goal.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (7:53)

That was always what we were spreading around. But like the idea that the fucking. This, this government in Iran and like, I don't know, you know, you see these. There were some big protests, then there were big marches in support of the regime. But of course, but, but this government in, in, in Iran has been there since 1979.

Mike McRae (8:13)

Thank you.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (8:13)

Morning.

Mike McRae (8:13)

Micah's father is her big do.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (8:16)

Yeah, well, that's right.

Kurt (8:17)

Yeah.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (8:17)

Yeah, well, that's. But he's. But. So they, they took power in 79. They've held onto power ever since most of that time with the most powerful governments in the world being hell bent on overthrowing this regime. And this regime has held on the whole time. And so when people in the corporate media tell you how weak and how it's about to fall, it's like, I mean, maybe, but I don't really think so. Especially when those people telling you that have a track record of being wrong about absolutely everything.

Mike McRae (8:49)

Well, Nepal, they kind of did because that was to get at China and whatever. But I think Nepal, the government was that bad that it did. See, it can work. If you've already got the anger at the government that level they're lying about, how much anger is that there is that their government. There's way more towards our government then they have to. There's a bunch of Jews living happily in Iran that don't like Israel. I found out from Ari Shafir of all people.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (9:12)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've actually talked to Ari about that very topic before. But, but look, also, you know, this is one of the things they always manipulate. Like they're. They did the same thing in, in Iraq. And this is where Chalabi convinced all the neocons that like, no, listen, dude, Chalabi, if you don't know, was like the, the Iraqi in exile who convinced the neocons like that this plan would work. And you know, they would point to the fact that there's a lot of people who don't like Saddam Hussein, right? And that's totally true. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni in the Ba' Atheist party, sitting on like 20% Sunni country is like 60% Shiite. And you know, the, and then like I think Kurds and some others, but I might be wrong on the Sunni numbers, but it's like it's super majority Shiite. So obviously a lot of those people fucking hate him, right? But that doesn't mean they're going to be Jefferson Republicans when they get into power. And in fact, when they got into power, when we put them into power, the first thing they wanted was crush those Sunnis who had been oppressing them all that time. And this is why the big civil war broke out. And so like the idea that even if there are a lot of people, like if you could imagine, right, like there a lot of say Trump supporters hated Joe Biden. But that doesn't mean that if China invaded and tried to overthrow the Biden administration, they're on Team China now, right? Pick up guns and start shooting at the Chinese because that's a foreigner and all you got to do is speak to anyone, anyone who's Iranian, who's not like a paid propagandist. They, they hate us for very specific reasons and they're pretty good reasons. And one, you know, in that list of, you know, attacks that the US has done that you had there, there, there are some missing there. And one of them that was in there was the 1953 overthrowing of the, of Mossadegh and installing the shah. But in 1980, a year after this regime rose up, Saddam Hussein invaded the country with chemical weapons that we facilitated selling to him. We gave him the green light. He killed 500,000 of them in the most vicious fucking way. And they know that. They remember that. Now some, you guys might remember the Iran Contra scandal. Reagan also sold weapons to Iran in.

Stu Peters (11:22)

The middle of that war.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (11:23)

But for the most part, we were back in Saddam's brutal government when they did the most brutal thing they've ever done.

Mike McRae (11:29)

Just want to make them both.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (11:32)

Yeah, yeah. Well, that was. They called it the dual. Well, they later called it the dual containment.

Mike McRae (11:36)

That's what they do to us. They do the dual containment strategy to us. That's what the stupid parties are.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (11:41)

And by the way, in order. So this was after the, the first war in Iraq. When they launched the dual containment strategy on behalf of a country in the Middle east. You'll never guess which one.

Mike McRae (11:52)

Qatar.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (11:54)

Those goddamn Qataris, always buying off our.

Mike McRae (11:57)

Media and our government, giving Trump a plane and then betraying us.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (12:01)

Yes. So they, in order to help Israel, we wanted to keep both of their regional adversaries weakened down, but we needed in order to do that to keep our military bases in Saudi Arabia. And that became the rallying cry for Al Qaeda and bin Laden. That was his number one recruiting shtick, is that there are, there is a, there's a foreign military occupation in our holy land. It was like his number one grievance in everything he ever wrote. And so it's all, you know, the whole thing's a web of just a mess. And it does, after a while, it does, it makes you realize like how brilliant the founding fathers were. Because like all these quotes that you could find back then, not just the founding fathers, but like the first generations of like American, you know, ruling elite or John Quincy Adams quotes about looking for monsters to destroy will make you the dickatrice of the world, but you'll lose your own soul. And it's like, and George Washington's farewell address where he's like, look, just don't get entangled with other countries because there's all types of things that pop off like that. Like it might take. Seem like the nice thing to do for, for England to give Poland a war guarantee. But now Germany invades Poland and oh shit, now instead of just having a little war, we got a world war that comes out of it, like almost.

Mike McRae (13:18)

Like it's on purpose.

Kurt (alternate or additional commentary) (13:20)

Yeah, well, they do make a whole lot of money off, off these things. And so like all these things, like. But it's crazy that after 25 years of the global war on terrorism, that someone like Bill Maher is even able to get in front of a camera and go topple it, topple the government and not even have to immediately address. Okay, but what is your plan for the next day? No, not even a thought.

Mike McRae (13:47)

He's being paid as a shill. He's being directly given marching orders from Netanyahu, just like when Tim Pool had his Chatham House rules. And by the way, Chatham House the Bilderberg of its day. That should be a big tell that it was real bad to even say something like that. So all of them are going to deliver the message and we're going to have the Noahide techno state no matter what.

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Kurt (15:48)

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Stu Peters (15:55)

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Kurt (16:04)

This is at America fest, Turning Point USA's largest event with the CEO in a flashy pantsuit giving a speech endorsing a political candidate. This is strictly forbidden under the law for a 501C3, you cannot endorse political candidates. That is political activity. In my opinion. What Erica Kirk just did was illegal. This is effectively using their tax exempt donations to create a campaign commercial for J.D. vance. And before you say, well, maybe it was paid for by one of the other companies that allow political activity. No, no, no, it says Turning Point USA behind her head during the speech. The tickets for the event were sent out from Turning Point USA. The fact page for the event is hosted@tpusa.com and at the bottom of the webpage it explicitly says, Turning Point USA is a 501. It looks to me like the executives at Turning Point are playing pretty fast and loose with the laws concerning 501C3s. Remember why this is important? A 501C3 is tax exempt, which is a tax subsidy. You are paying more in taxes so that they do not have to. So is it fair that Democrats are paying taxes that fund a campaign commercial for JD Vance? This is so unjust, which is why there are so many laws against what Erica Kirk just did. If she wants to endorse a candidate, that's fine, but she needs to pay for it. Out of Turning Point package I'm going to give you the exact wording from IRS Revenue Rule 2007-41. A 501 does not participate in or intervene in, including the publishing or distributing of statements, any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. That seems pretty clear that Erica Kirk's statement was illegal. So the only nonprofit that is supposed to do political activity is the 501C4, turning point action. There is a special section on their 990form where they are supposed to list out the political activity they are engaged in. Schedule C. Now, everyone should go check out schedule C for Turning Point Action because it is quite shocking. For FY24 on line two, they listed that they spent $637,500 on political campaign activity expenditures. Now, just let that sink in for a moment. Out of Turning Point Action's $21 million budget, they only spent 3% on political activity. Now, just from what you know about what Turning Point Action does, does that seem right to you? Now, they actually provide a description of what the $637,500 was spent on. They claim it was specifically political campaign activities include event expense. So they spent this money on some kind of event. I'm guessing it was a campaign rally for Donald Trump. And they are claiming that this is the only thing that Turning Point Action does that qualifies as political activity. All of the rest of the millions of dollars that they have spent was not for political activity. I have a really hard time believing that we're going to take a closer look.

Jimmy Dore (18:29)

So. So do I go. Let me throw it to you, Stu. What do you. What do you make of that? It's obvious that they're breaking campaign finance laws, but again, it doesn matter if you Break a law if there's no one in power there to prosecute you, which they seem to have a prosecution shield from the Trump administration. What do you think?

Stu Peters (18:49)

Yeah, well, it's criminal. Not only are they defrauding their own donors, but now they're defrauding every American taxpayer while they pretend to be a tax exempt nonprofit and they're raking in hundreds of millions of dollars. And you got Tyler Boyer on the screen there, too. This guy and his superfeed tech. And what that whistleblower told me yesterday about, you know, all of this election law, ballot chasing, ballot harvesting, voter intimidation, using that superfeed tech to work hand in hand with the Trump administration and with the GOP to steal and manipulate voter data. It's a big deal. That is. That is a critical part of this whole machine. Because what have Republicans constantly done? They have whined and bitched and moaned about Democrats doing that exact same thing. And all the while, their favorite little activists here at Turning Point USA have been doing this to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars to ensure that Miriam Adelson is able to get her shekels worth after she pays a hundred million dollars in one election cycle to make sure that Donald Trump is the president to exact Project Esther. If you haven't read that, read that. That's 34 pages. It's the blueprint. It tells you exactly why it is that we're seeing all of this happen on the trajectory and at the scale that we are, because there has been a very specific initiative that's been laid out. So, yeah, not only are they committing fraud against their own donors, but they are against every American taxpayer. It's criminal. They should be going to jail. And the treasury letter was to say you're not being investigated for crimes of financial malfeasance. But the Cash Patel narrative is a message to say you're not going to face accountability or any kind of real criminal justice investigation. We've got your back there, too. And the reason why all of these bases systematically are being covered is because at the end of the day, if the truth comes out about what happened to Charlie Kirk, there's a lot more people than, I believe, just Erica going to prison. There's a lot more people than just Brian Harpole or, you know, some of these people that are committing financial crimes. Some of these people dealing with these shadowy, strange relationships with Romanian or Eastern European orphanages. I think that this is probably one of the most unprecedented coverups because it goes all the way to the top. And I think that you would see in a just world where courts are actually participating in the examination of evidence and real juries are presented and law enforcement is tasked with doing their job. And they all actually do it in a morally upright way and in accordance with the law, scrupulously adhering to all of the procedures. These people would all be going to prison, every one of them. I believe that Donald Trump would be in prison for a lot of things. And, you know, this is coming from a guy who. I loved Donald Trump. I did. I was a huge supporter in 2015. I bought it hook, line and sinker. I thought that this guy was going to be the human hand grenade that was thrown into the system. But in retrospect, you can see this was the message. They use it to manipulate. They use it to gin up the hype. Just like they get us to cheer on wars when Toby Keith writes a song, Go put a boot in their ass. That's the American way. Wave your flag. It's patriotic. We gotta go get these sand people before they come and get us. They did this to these towers. George Bush, let's go get these people. It's the same thing. They have to get Americans to believe that all of this is real, all of the elections are real, the two party system is real. And when you see people who have this kind of boost in their algorithm and you see what it is they're talking about, if they're weighing in on political issues, whether it be domestically or foreign policy related, the ones that are getting the most boost, the Alex Joneses, who Liz Harris said is controlled by the Mossad. And I believe that, whether it be by blackmail, I bet there would be a lot. That guy sat across from a woman that's pretending to be a man and said, when I look at you, I see nothing but woman. I just see you're a beautiful woman. That's what I see. You know, I mean, so it's no doubt that there's probably some blackmail material. You wouldn't have to work too hard to get that from Alex Jones. But these people are very easily controlled by money. And when that machine realized, when Donald Trump one in 2016, largely by demonizing the media, there was a mass exodus. People didn't pay attention to the things that the Fox News Channel or CNN or, you know, any of these major cable broadcast news networks were saying anymore. They went to the information superhighway. They went to places like Rumble, they went to your show on YouTube. They found me on Twitter, they went, you know, to Instagram, they found Candace Owens. They're getting real information. And the Beast saw that they already had a machine in place to subvert and to circumvent any kind of criticism. And that was Turning Point usa. And by using censorship to shield out everybody else, all they have to do is just deny, deny, deny. These people are the ones that are responsible for investigating themselves. Are they going to do that?

Jimmy Dore (23:51)

No.

Stu Peters (23:51)

It's like asking if Congress people are going to vote for term limits. Yeah, I'm not going to work myself out of a job. These people are the criminals. What are they doing investigating criminals? It's just a really. It's a situation that is really dire. But, you know, God willing and all glory to God, people are waking up. And I see this happening. I see it happening quickly. And I think that there is a breaking point. And I think that the breaking point is going to be in the Epstein files Transparency Act. I saw that you had Thomas Massie on the other day talking about that. I think that that is kind of really going to be the straw, because no matter where you align ideologically, politically, this is the Hill that everybody can die on. You don't touch our kids. And when eight and a half billion people worldwide, or 350 million in this country, realize who's implicated in those files and on those tapes and what they're doing to those innocent children, I don't think there's going to be a safe place for these people to hide.

Jimmy Dore (24:49)

So.

Stu Peters (24:50)

And I think that's coming. I think that there's enough pressure. I think that there is enough global knowledge that these things exist and that they are real. And I think that the message here also needs to be that whether Epstein is dead or living very much alive and partying it up with Tupac on some island, or maybe he's just in Israel, just living with Tom Alexandrovich and the rest of these people, I think that people should probably understand that there are a lot more than just Jeffrey Epstein. These operatives are currently working right now all over the place to keep this kind of. To feed the beast, to keep this power alive, to keep this blackmail, to keep this control happening. And I think the straw that breaks the camel's back is what these people are doing to kids. I think that that crosses all political lines. I think that it crosses all race lines, all faith, spiritual, religious lines. I think that pretty much everybody, except for the people that are hurting children, are going to have a really big problem with that. So I think that's coming, and I pray that that's the Linchpin Stu Peters.

Jimmy Dore (25:52)

I appreciate you making time for our show. Thanks for your insight, everybody. Check out Stu Peters show. Are you back on YouTube? I know you're on Rumble.

Stu Peters (26:01)

I'm on Rumble. I'm on X. You can find me there. The Stu Peters network or just Eelstu Peters on X, Twitter, whatever. And then on Spotify and Apple podcasts, just search SPN Live as in Stu Peters network. Okay, SPN Live. And so we're there. We're on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Thank you, Jimmy. I appreciate you having me.

Jimmy Dore (26:21)

All right.

Stu Peters (26:21)

I've been excited about coming on.

Jimmy Dore (26:23)

Oh, it's great. It's great to have you. I appreciate it. Your wealth of information. Hey, let me ask you about that book that you have in front of you. It says it's really fun to be white. What is it?

Stu Peters (26:33)

It's really fun to be white. Yeah. So never thought. It was never on my bingo card that I would be a published author, but you can find this on Amazon. It's really fun to be white. You know, when you go into these public schools and you look at the bookshelves, you can find all kinds of things that talk about how great it is to be a little black boy or a little Jewish girl, you know, or, or anything. You just, you would be hard pressed to think it's impossible actually to find a children's book specifically for white children that tells them about their history and about their culture. It's 48 pages long. I'm really proud of the illustrations in here. It's just a book that properly represents my people, you know, and it tells white children that they have value. Because it's my opinion that in this war on whites and this anti white agenda that our children unfortunately have bore the brunt of that. And so this was just a little relief. If you have little important white children in your life, order a copy for every one of them.

Jimmy Dore (27:31)

I've always said, Stu, it's tough being white.

Stu Peters (27:34)

It is, it is. It's. It's a. It's a constant uphill battle. It's like, you know, trying to climb the side of a building and get up on top of it with a rifle or something. It's nearly impossible.

Jimmy Dore (27:42)

When, when is whitey going to get his day?

Stu Peters (27:45)

When, when can I just get a win? When can whitey get a win? Just give me one win. So here we are. It's a micro win, but here it is. It's a great win though, because our children are our future. And that's like the whole reason why I do this every day. It started because I was fighting for my kids. It's millions of kids. This platform is, is going to be in existence for the sole purpose of fighting for kids. So there we go.

Jimmy Dore (28:07)

All right. Okay, Stu. All right, brother. It's great to talk to you. So everybody's excited about the upscroll. So TikTok is completely state media run by Israel or Zionists. And so there's this new thing by these Palestine, this guy who lives in Australia, but he's a Palestinian and he quit his job working for Big Tech because he felt like he was contributing to the evil because all Big Tech is being, is involved in the genocide in Gaza. They're all, you know, from Microsoft to Apple to Google, they're all involved, right to. Doesn't matter. So this is the guy. Listen to the founder. This is the founder of UpsCrolled. He's going to talk about why he created this. So here you go out there.

Kurt (29:01)

Then we're not going to be able to make it too far. I mean, it's great to go out in the street and protest. It's great to gather and then talk.

Stu Peters (29:07)

And share and all that.

Kurt (29:08)

But if we don't become independent, digitally.

Stu Peters (29:10)

Speaking with platforms, with products and then.

Kurt (29:12)

Help one another to grow these platforms, we will not be able to get far. And the reason for this, all these big tech, all these politicians talk money, they talk power, talk about control. And we're helping them them by using these other platforms, we're profiting them, we're.

Stu Peters (29:23)

Generating money for them, we're making them.

Kurt (29:24)

More powerful every day.

Jimmy Dore (29:25)

He's saying so whenever we use Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, we're helping the powerful. That's what he's saying, that we're by.

Kurt (29:35)

Using or scrolling on TikTok or Instagram, I said let's create the platform. So I dedicated myself building the platform last year. We've launched upscroll about a couple of months ago. To those who doesn't know upschool, it's a social media platform similar to Instagram, similar to X and very soon similar to TikTok. Tens and tens of thousands joining the platform monthly.

Stu Peters (29:50)

We've been, I've been surprised, to be.

Kurt (29:51)

Honest with you, when we launched the platform the second day, we're starting to see hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.

Stu Peters (29:55)

20, 30, we know people are looking for an alternative.

Kurt (29:57)

They're sick and tired of being shadowbanned. They understand the pain of posting and.

Stu Peters (30:00)

Not having their content or voice being.

Kurt (30:02)

Reached on other platforms. So this is Basically what upscroll is.

Jimmy Dore (30:06)

So there it is. Upscrolled is for people who are sick and tired of having the establishment control your speech. That's according to the guy who's developing it. But this guy who worked on it, Paul Bigger, watch your mouth. He. He's, he's the founder of Tech for Palestine and I guess he worked on this and he tweeted out, look, it's the top. This new app up. Upscrolled was the number one top of the charts of an app being. So everybody's, everybody is, is hungering for a platform to give us free speech. That's what this is all about. Upscrolled, right? They're not going to shadow ban you. They're not going to what? Well, let's listen.

Paul Bigger (30:52)

So one of the differences between upscrolled and between the big tech platforms like, like Meta and TikTok, is that the big tech platforms are really there to protect the powerful from you seeing what goes on in the world. So they'll shut down videos about ICE coming into your communities or about Israel's genocide in Gaza. Upscroll allows you to show what you see.

Jimmy Dore (31:12)

Well, that's great. Everybody can be. Everybody's on board for that. I'm on board for that. Got Kurt's on board for that. I'm sure everybody's on board for upscroll allowing us to show whatever we see. Ok, here we go.

Paul Bigger (31:24)

You can show what's going on in the world. We don't do shadow bans and we don't limit political speech. Shadow bans are what big tech does to hide people who are talking.

Jimmy Dore (31:33)

So they don't do shadow bans, they don't do censorship.

Paul Bigger (31:37)

Isn't that nice about uncomfortable political situations? They just put you in the corner talking to yourself and your friends of the same topic, and they just limit your reach so that other people can't see what you say.

Jimmy Dore (31:48)

So that's what, that's what all the platforms do. They shadow ban you. They put you in a corner. So it limits your reach. Freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. Okay, okay, here we go. But wait, hang on to your.

Paul Bigger (32:01)

But at the same time, Meta and X are actually really bad for users. They build platforms that are designed to keep you engaged and addicted, and then they don't limit the harms that come from the information on their systems.

Jimmy Dore (32:15)

Wait, so it sounds like he's starting to say another thing here. Kurt. He sounds like he started out saying the bad thing about all Those Facebooks, Instagrams, TikTok is they shadow ban you and they limit your reach and they don't let you get your word out and they censor you. But now he's saying that they also. The bad thing about them is that they don't protect you from other people's speech. That's what I. Let me back it up. And I'm pretty sure they don't limit.

Paul Bigger (32:42)

The harm and then they don't limit the harms that come from the information on their systems.

Jimmy Dore (32:49)

Then they don't limit the harms that come from the information on their systems. I'm starting to get a little. My palms are starting to sweat a little that this might not be what it's made out to be. Let's listen a little bit more.

Paul Bigger (33:02)

That's how META enabled the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, and that's how X turned into a vitriol shithole.

Jimmy Dore (33:10)

So he's saying that Facebook enabled the genocide. No, that was. He said meta. That's how META enabled the Rohingya genocide in Miramar, Myanmar.

Paul Bigger (33:25)

And that's how X turned into a vitriolic shithole.

Jimmy Dore (33:29)

He's saying, because they're not protecting people from the harm of speech. But I thought the whole point of this was free speech and that everybody's a grown up and everybody gets to decide what speech they want to listen to and what they don't want to listen to. And when you, when you censor someone, you're also censoring my ability to hear that person. Not only are you censoring their ability to speak, you're censoring my ability to hear them. So you're doing two bads at once. And it seems he's, he's saying that META did not do enough censoring. That's what he's. That's what he's saying. They're just. In other words, meta should have did more censoring because. Because they didn't do enough censoring. They enabled a genocide in Miramar. Really? Okay, so they. He seems to be saying two totally different things. Let's keep going.

Paul Bigger (34:24)

Upscroll protects users.

Jimmy Dore (34:26)

Upscroll, it protects the user.

Paul Bigger (34:28)

You could have a good authentic experience without harm. And that.

Jimmy Dore (34:32)

So they're going to protect you. They're going to be like your dad, if your dad was controlling your social media. Like, nope, you can't look at that. You can look at this. You can. And who's going to decide? Somebody at upscroll will decide what's gonna be harmful to you and what's not. They're going to somehow they're tough enough. Their censors or their media people over at upscrolled they have the mental toughness to read all the bad stuff and it doesn't affect them, but they know you're weak and so will affect you. So they're gonna censor it from you. They're gonna protect you from harm. So because they have the mental toughness to read everything, but you don't, you're weakling and so they have to protect you from ideas and because it might hurt your brain, that's what he's saying right now. We're going to upscroll is going to protect their users, AKA censor people. We're going to censor other people. That's how you protect users. Okay, here we go.

Paul Bigger (35:28)

Means that we don't allow certain things on the platform. We don't allow you to spread disinformation.

Jimmy Dore (35:35)

We don't allow you to spread disinformation. According to who? You know, I'm sure that that was the same guy who was saying if you said ivermectin was a human medicine, he would have said that was disinformation. If you would have said that the vaccine didn't stop transmission or contraction, he would have said that was. If you would have said the vaccine, the virus was created in a lab and not in a wet. But he would have said that. If you would have said masks don't work, he would have said that I'm pretty.

Mike McRae (36:04)

Climate change is fake and a scam.

Jimmy Dore (36:05)

You don't get to debate climate change because that's misinformation. You don't get to debate anything. If they say it's disinfectant, what. So what in the hell makes you different?

Paul Bigger (36:17)

So, well, let's keep going bully to harass or have.

Jimmy Dore (36:20)

You don't get to. You don't get to bully, harass or have hate speech.

Mike McRae (36:25)

Let me tell you something I hate that.

Jimmy Dore (36:27)

Hate speech is speech and the fact that you hate it is why it needs protection. You don't need protection for speech that everybody likes. You need protection for speech that some people hate. And if you hate that speech, that's why you have the First Amendment. Okay, here we go.

Paul Bigger (36:50)

We also don't allow explicit nudity or copyright infringement. Now upscrolled is barely six months old and until recently it had a part time moderator. And then we blew up. So obviously we're beefing that up. The other thing that we're doing is.

Jimmy Dore (37:03)

We'Re beefing up our moderation, meaning we're beefing up our censorship.

Mike McRae (37:08)

Oh, good. I can't wait for these blob Reddit nerds that from Ireland. God knows what that's going to be.

Jimmy Dore (37:14)

Here we go.

Paul Bigger (37:15)

Trust and Safety Board. A Trust and Safety board.

Jimmy Dore (37:17)

They're building a. They're building a trust and safety board again. I already have one. It's called the Constitution of the United States. It's called the First Amendment, and if someone breaks the First Amendment, I don't need a social media platform to go in and police them, because we have actual police. We have police and sheriffs, we have attorney generals, we have district attorneys. We have all kinds of law enforcement. And if someone goes in there and does something illegal with their speech, they're going to handle it. Here we go.

Paul Bigger (37:53)

Thing that Big Tech used to have, Meta had a trust and Safety board that it never really listened to, and X actually shut down its Trust and Safety board when Elon Musk came in. Our Trust and Safety board is going to be there to protect users. We're building it with civil rights experts, digital rights experts, and people. With experts. And harm to marginalized communities.

Jimmy Dore (38:11)

We already have experts that already wrote the rules and regulations. It's called the Founding Fathers of America, and it's called the First Amendment. We already have the rules. We already have the guardrails. We already have everything. You don't have to invent new rules. We already have these rules, which have served us very well for. For 200 years. They've served us very. We don't. You don't need to do this. I don't get this. Here we go.

Paul Bigger (38:37)

The Trust and Safety Board will have real power at upscrold, enabling it to create policies and dictate how those policies are actually enforced.

Jimmy Dore (38:44)

So what, he's. He's basically saying the people at Twitter don't censor enough. The people at Meta don't censor enough. This is what he's saying.

Mike McRae (38:55)

They didn't listen to their moderators.

Jimmy Dore (38:57)

They didn't listen to their. They didn't listen to their censorship board. That's what he said.

Mike McRae (39:01)

CIA. The CIA. No, they did listen to him, actually. Actually, that punk Zuckerberg pathetically blathered about it to Rogan when he went on. Yeah, he admitted told us we had to hide the Hunter Biden vaccine.

Jimmy Dore (39:16)

I don't know what the hell's going on with this upscroll, but this seems like the exact. He's. He's. They're. They're. We're all free speech, except we're. We're going to be more censorious than Twitter and meta. That's what he's saying. We're going to protect you from harm, which is the only. That's what every dictator says.

Mike McRae (39:35)

Marginalized people. That's the bulk of the civil. Of everyone.

Jimmy Dore (39:38)

Yes.

Mike McRae (39:39)

It's not like who the Irish citizens of Ireland. What do you mean marginalized? That's not good. As soon as they throw that language.

Kurt (39:46)

Out there to protect users.

Paul Bigger (39:50)

Upscroll protects people on its platform from harms, but at the same time it allows you to speak up about what the powerful are doing, what the government are doing, and what the things that other big tech platforms suppress.

Jimmy Dore (40:02)

I have a feeling that's not true.

Mike McRae (40:04)

I'm ready for gender bullshit to be alive and well on here. Like it's blue sky. Get ready.

Jimmy Dore (40:08)

It's so yeah, I. I tweeted out. I'm glad you're allowing Israel criticism, but then applying your own politics to decide what speech is not acceptable and censoring that speech is the opposite side of the same authoritarian coin as TikTok. Hard to fathom. You don't understand this. Why is it so hard for social media platforms to follow the First Amendment? Why is that?

Mike McRae (40:33)

Well, he's a stinking foreigner, so he don't respect it much like can or don't respect. That's an American thing. So he's not interested in protecting your First Amendment rights. They don't like that around the world, especially a dickhead that talks like that. So, yeah, it's blue. So there you go. There you go.

Jimmy Dore (40:47)

So here's what people are saying about it on Twitter underneath his post. It's officially blue sky now. Sam Parker. Sam Parker says I've been on upscroll for three days now. I've been great so far, but I don't need you or anyone else telling me what I can and can't say. The community will decide if they like what I have to say or not. Your censorship plans are a load of Tosh. We're not going back. I don't know why he's got to bring in Daniel Tosh to this, but he did.

Mike McRae (41:13)

It's a big load of Taj. Well, why don't you just stop Bots. How about this? You put all your don't worry about protecting me from ideas. Get all the fake actors and all the Malaysians pretending to be from here to say political shit. Get rid of all that shit that the other ones do, and I guarantee you it'll. It'll clear up the harm.

Jimmy Dore (41:33)

So they're busy trying to become the thing they're supposed to be in defiance of. It's only. And they're only six months in, you hardly have your merch in place, and Auto Spell doesn't even know your name yet. And I think it's safe to assume, Kurt, that any social media platform is going to be compromised by the same ones who have grabbed up everything else. Do you seriously think that the establishment is not going to grab up everything? Of course they are. Every platform is owned by the establishment, and this one will be too. The establishment has all the religions, they have all the political parties, they have all the news outlets. Why? Because those are the shortcuts to having followers. That's why. They're the ones who created the phrase social influencers. So here's more. More people. This is just right underneath that guy's post. I installed the app two days ago and I will uninstall it today. You're just another psyop pretending to support free speech, yet in your own words you'll be censoring users. Gfy, you phony. Go f yourself. Censorship. Way to blow up the app in less than a week, says Metropol. K. You have pronouns in your bio. I don't think you realize how many people speak out on behalf of the Palestinian people that are not liberals. Many real conservatives are anti genocide and condemn Zionism. But we will not be part of a platform where only liberal ideology is heard. Guys, please read the room. I want. I want upscroll to succeed, but you're fumbling. The PR people are flooding to your platform to escape censorship. Don't lead with corporate talk about hate speech and disinformation. Obvious protections are in place. Just leave it at that. I'm with you. So, but here's what they should have called upscrolled. They should have called it uninstalled.

Mike McRae (43:28)

You know he's lying, but you know he is because he. He should know about the real problems are bots, Five Eyes Intel Agency spying on us. That's. Remember the guy that got in trouble for not handing over. Was it telegram?

Jimmy Dore (43:38)

Yes.

Mike McRae (43:39)

So that's the real issue. Nothing with harm to marginalized people. Anybody using that phrase, please omega yourself.

Jimmy Dore (43:48)

So un unscrolled. So that. By the way, that guy's just a guy. So this guy is the founder of Tech for Palestine, who I guess is working on it. This is. This guy's the inventor and I'm gonna guess the CEO founder of it. So this guy doesn't have as much power. And so I Think when this thing, this video, started to make the rock upscroll. Then put this out. They said over 1 million of you have joined this week because you're sick of billionaires and government censoring our voices. We don't moderate viewpoints, we don't censor news, we don't pick sides. We're for everyone who wants real conversations without manipulation. That said, we can't be a zero moderation platform. What?

Mike McRae (44:33)

Okay, well, get the CP off like that. X doesn't get off. Get the. Okay, I understand moderate. You can't have calls for violence and attacks. That's fine, but that's all.

Jimmy Dore (44:42)

But that's already illegal, Kurt.

Mike McRae (44:44)

Yeah, that's exactly right. If so, why are you saying that?

Jimmy Dore (44:47)

So if someone does that, that's already illegal. We already have district attorneys, state's attorneys, we have attorney general, we have police departments, we have sheriffs, we have all kinds of criminal justice apparatuses to take care of someone who's actually breaking the law on your platform and doing violence threats. We already have that. So anyway, so. But that I. So I don't need some jag off some nerd from Techland to be my nanny and decide what. Anyway, so that said, we can't be zero moderation platform. We won't allow explicit calls for violence, and that's already illegal, for example. But we're not here to police or manipulate your opinions, views, or how you express yourself. No hidden algorithms, no secret suppression, no shadow agendas. That's what we're building. Bear with us as we iron out the details. Well, that's not what the other guy said. The other guy said, you're there, you're going to make it safe. The other guy said that Meta and TikTok and Twitter are not censoring enough and that we're going to make it safe and that we have a trusted safety board that we're really ramping up right now.

Mike McRae (45:57)

Yeah, maybe iron out that Irish intel mole that you let in your thing, because he's going to stab you in the back, brother. He already has. By saying that stupid shit he said. Which is really upsetting because I thought upscroll. Really? I'm such a sucker.

Jimmy Dore (46:09)

Me too.

Mike McRae (46:09)

I really thought obscure. Oh, there's someone else everybody can go on. And it's not going to be like TikTok. No, of course we're going to get the USA Bono politics of Euro globalists. Thank you, Irish scumbag. With your pronouns and your thing.

Jimmy Dore (46:23)

So this is the guy who's the founder. He said, just Stating the obvious here. Official statements about upscrolled will only come through me or our official channels. We do not necessarily endorse or agree with others, friends or foes, and most certainly no one speaks on our behalf whatsoever. So I think that was him like saying that this guy got a little. Got out a little bit over his skis. I think that's what that was.

Mike McRae (46:46)

But he works for him. He's officially.

Jimmy Dore (46:48)

But he does. Yeah. So I think that was trying to do some damage control. So suppressed news says Zionists are crying because when they try to set their location on upscrolled for Israel, it then shows Palestine or it shows occupied Palestinian territories. So like here it's showing you, it says Tel Aviv and then it flips it to occupied territories of Palestine. Tel Aviv district occupied territories. That's hilarious. Ben Gurion Airport occupied territory of Palestine. So that's fun. That's fun. Now I just wanted to. You wanted me to play this, I'll play it.

Stu Peters (47:32)

It's time to limit the first amendment in order to protect it. And quickly before it's too late.

Jimmy Dore (47:40)

What do you mean?

Stu Peters (47:41)

I mean that we need to control the platforms, all the social platforms we need to stack, rank the authenticity of every person that expresses themselves online and take control over what they are saying based on that ranking the government. The government should.

Jimmy Dore (48:06)

So I played it. What do you. What? What did you want to say about that, Kurt?

Mike McRae (48:09)

Well, it sounds just like the Irish guy. We're going to keep harms and we're going to stop. We can't let it be unmoderated. We got to stop the first Amendment to protect the first amendment. So I hope that guy, the Palestinian guy, I hope you're going to let that Irish intel mole straighten his ass out first. I hope you do that buddy, because you're sunk. If that guy's agenda, that guy and I and. And if that's what happens where then they start doing the censorship again and it's overtly boutique leftist identity politics censoring as it has been. Then you know he works for this guy. Then you know they're doing the. They're the good cop, bad cop and that's what all these stupid Zionist the wokies that's pushed by very rich corporations so you'd welcome your conquerors when they said you don't have to pretend women have anymore. You' welcome your Zionist conquer. That's what it was for. So you're not escaping if you don't get rid of that.

Jimmy Dore (48:59)

So it looks like upscrolled should call themselves Shut Up Scrolled.

Mike McRae (49:04)

Yeah, Really. I mean, honest to God, don't I? First of all, an accent telling me about what I can say is way out of line. That gets my American blood up. Jimmy Russell's My Jimmies.

Jimmy Dore (49:15)

So they talk. When they talk about moderating opinions, they talk about just. They just want moderate opinions and we all want to believe them, but I just. I just. I don't. It's just. There's no getting out of this. We're in a matrix.

Mike McRae (49:36)

They'd kill it if it was in. They would kill it. Let's face it, there was already a member parlor, had to go.

Jimmy Dore (49:41)

Yeah.

Mike McRae (49:42)

So no one's gonna let you have an indie social media app.

Jimmy Dore (49:46)

So that's the problem also. So the big problem with this is that if they actually do give free speech, any social platform that gives free speech is going to get discontinued from the Apple app things, the App Store Store or the Google, whatever their apps plays to. They won't be. If you're not censoring, you're not going to be allowed on those things. That's my guess. That's my guess. So, you know, they had the WF Davos thing. We covered it. That's when all the people who really run the world all come together at Davos, Switzerland. They all come together. They all fly their private jets in there and tell you how they're going to fix climate change. Right? And so here's one of the most. So this guy, Boring Business, tweeted out. One of the most significant moments from the Trump Davos speech was when he said the quiet part out loud. You cannot lower housing costs for young people without destroying millions in wealth for boomers. Our politicians are sacrificing people in their 20s and 30s for the prosperity of boomers. Let that sink in. And so no one else really picked up on this, except while Boring Business caught it. So let's listen. This is really interesting. Listen to this, Kurt.

Stu Peters (51:01)

I have to say one thing about housing, because nobody ever says this. I am very protective of people that already own a house of which we.

Jimmy Dore (51:12)

Have millions and millions and millions.

Stu Peters (51:15)

And because we have had such a good run, the house values have gone up tremendously.

Jimmy Dore (51:22)

The reason why house values have gone up tremendously is because of the one, the devaluation of the dollar. That's why. Because the dollar buys less than it ever did. And that's why housing costs way more than it did in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Because when you print a trillion dollars every three months, it devalues the buying power of the dollars that are already in circulation. So it's a hidden tax. It's a hidden inflation. When they keep printing money, it's inflation and a hidden tax on your. The money you already earned is now worth less. Not worthless, but it's worth a lot less. And that's why houses cost so much. That's one reason. The second reason is they won't build enough housing.

Mike McRae (52:14)

There you go. It's supposed to be a consumer item, not an investment. And how do you make investment go up? By not scarcity. That's right, by scarcity.

Jimmy Dore (52:23)

So, all right, here we go. And they also allow billionaires from China and other countries to buy up our housing, which is illegal in a lot of other countries. They don't let foreigners buy housing in their country, which is something we should do in the United States. And you would see the price of housing come down. But of course, the real estate lobby has a stranglehold on local municipalities and the. And they want foreign billionaires to be able to buy housing in the United States, which artificially drives up prices. Also they have places like Blackrock buying up houses, selling them at buying a house for $300,000 and then selling it to themselves for 700, artificially inflating. So there's lots of reasons for that and those are three of the big ones. Trump doesn't address any of them good. So but here's what he says.

Stu Peters (53:20)

Have gone up tremendously. And these people have become wealthy.

Jimmy Dore (53:26)

They weren't wealthy, they'd become wealthy because of their house. And every time you make it more.

Stu Peters (53:33)

And more and more affordable for somebody to buy a house cheaply, you're actually hurting the value of those houses, obviously, because the one thing works in tandem with the other. And I don't want to do anything that's going to hurt the value of people that own a house who for the first time in their lives are walking around the streets of whatever city they're in, very proud that their house is worth 500, 600, $700,000 now if I want to.

Jimmy Dore (54:03)

Or in the regular blue collar neighborhood here in Los Angeles. $1 million.

Kurt (54:07)

Yeah.

Mike McRae (54:08)

What are the property taxes on a house that high?

Jimmy Dore (54:11)

A house in blue collar neighborhood, Pasadena, where I lived for whatever 10, 15 years, they the houses there, blue collar people. Those houses are a million dollars for a two bedroom, one bath. A million dollars. Just so. So it's not just sick, but I'm talking about Los Angeles, New York, other place, San Francisco, a two bedroom, one bath, a Million dollars. Just to let you know, it's an.

Mike McRae (54:37)

Incentive to sell to a large corporation, isn't it, then? Because the property taxes alone would be a pain in the ass, wouldn't they?

Jimmy Dore (54:42)

That's right.

Mike McRae (54:43)

Oh, so no one should have a house event. Thanks, Trump. Wow, we did great.

Jimmy Dore (54:47)

So this is part of the. You'll own nothing and be happy, but.

Mike McRae (54:50)

Here we're going to live in Epcot Center. I can't wait.

Jimmy Dore (54:53)

Here we go.

Stu Peters (54:53)

Really crush the housing market. I could do that so fast and.

Jimmy Dore (54:56)

People could buy houses if I wanted to. I could make it easy for people to buy houses right now if I wanted to. He said. You heard him right.

Stu Peters (55:08)

But you would destroy a lot of people that already have houses. In some cases, they've mortgaged their house and the mortgage would be very low. And all of a sudden the mortgage, without any changes, becomes very high and they end up losing the house.

Jimmy Dore (55:25)

So he's just telling you, I ain't doing nothing for the people who are having trouble, which is everybody under 35 years old trying to buy a house. I ain't doing anything. We're not doing anything. In fact, we're going to protect the wealth of the people who already have the wealth.

Mike McRae (55:41)

Yeah. Guess what, Millennials and zoomers, you're going to die off and there'll be a much lower, easier to control population. And then the few of you that have kids out of your shrunken poison taints. The few of you that have kids, those kids won't ever expect to have a house or anything. They'll go live in their freedom cities or whatever the fuck he was talking about before.

Jimmy Dore (56:00)

So here is the secret. Secret. So. And Trump could do something. He could build more affordable housing. That's what you could do. You could do it. You could have the government do it. You could have tax incentives for private developers to go make affordable housing for people. You could do it. There's a lot of things you could do to make housing more affordable. They're not doing it. Creating more housing would be the biggest thing because now it's artificially scarce. And that's why it's so hard for people 35 years and under to buy a house. But here's. And just to let you know how out of. Absolutely out of their minds, out of touch billionaires are who run your government. Trump being a billionaire. This will just show you. Here's Scott Besant. And Secretary Scott Besant reveals the bubble he lives in. Let's listen.

Stu Peters (56:54)

We are going to give guidance at some point to See, what is a mom and Pop? That someone, maybe your parents for their retirement have bought 5, 10, 12 homes. So we don't want to push the mom. It pops out.

Jimmy Dore (57:09)

What? I don't know. Kurt, did you just hear that? Let me play it again.

Mike McRae (57:13)

Oh yeah, my mom's got 10 homes. Come on. Don't let an elderly woman lose her 10 homes she invested in. Come on.

Jimmy Dore (57:19)

They're saying they're going to protect the mom and pops who have bought 10 homes in Argentina.

Mike McRae (57:26)

Scott Besant, you sack of shit.

Jimmy Dore (57:27)

Listen to this.

Stu Peters (57:28)

We are going to give guidance at some point to see what is a Mom and Pop. That someone, maybe your parents for their retirement. About 5, 10, 12 homes. So we don't want to push the mom and pops out. We just want to push everyone else out.

Mike McRae (57:45)

What the.

Jimmy Dore (57:46)

The mom and pops who bought 12 homes for their retirement.

Mike McRae (57:52)

Chinese foreigners that are rich. What are you talking about?

Jimmy Dore (57:54)

The mom and pops? Could you be. So what? The way this guy puts it is that he, he reveals the bubble he lives in. I can't underscore how completely effing out of touch this entire administrator. You have to agree.

Mike McRae (58:10)

That is, I think they know what they're doing and they like it.

Jimmy Dore (58:12)

That is a.

Mike McRae (58:13)

Just letting you know what they are.

Jimmy Dore (58:14)

That is a jaw on the floor moment. I mean, of all the things, of all the crazy things that I've showed. I've had clips of people saying since I started this show over 10 years ago, of all the crazy things, that has got to be the. That's got to take the cake. You know, a mom and pop who bought 12 homes. Mom and pop for their retirement. You know, it's just, just regular people buying 12 houses.

Stu Peters (58:46)

We are going to give guidance at some point to see what is a mom and Pop. That someone, maybe your parents for their retirement have bought 5, 10, 12 homes. So we don't want to push the mom and pops out.

Jimmy Dore (59:00)

We just, you know, the mom and pops who own 12 houses. So that's who they're protect.

Mike McRae (59:07)

They think people Walton.

Jimmy Dore (59:09)

They think regular Americans are people who own 12 homes. That's a regular America. Those are just regular working class people. Mom and pops.

Mike McRae (59:18)

I must be homeless compared to that. In his mind, you must be not even a living creep being if you don't have 10 to 12 homes. You must not even exist.

Jimmy Dore (59:26)

This is why we need more Thomas Massey's and less billionaires and millionaires in Congress and running our country. I'm sure Besson's got to be. Is he a billionaire Scott Besson. He's got.

Mike McRae (59:39)

He's the prick that. That's why we bailed out that hedge fund in Argentina.

Jimmy Dore (59:42)

That's why we bailed out Argentina to.

Mike McRae (59:44)

This sack of shit.

Jimmy Dore (59:45)

Yeah. 40 billion we gave to Argentina so Scott Bessant's buddy could make his money.

Mike McRae (59:51)

Yeah. And so Malay can go hump the Wailing Wall like every other.

Jimmy Dore (59:59)

Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't, don't, don't, don't freak out. Don't freak out.

Stu Peters (60:40)

Don't freak out.

Jimmy Dore (60:41)

Don't freak out. Do not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not. Do not.

Kurt (60:49)

I'm not.

Jimmy Dore (60:49)

I'm not. I'm not.

Mike McRae (60:50)

I'm not.

Jimmy Dore (60:50)

I'm not.

Stu Peters (60:51)

I'm not.

Jimmy Dore (60:54)

Freak out. Do not freak out.