The Jimmy Dore Show — "Dems & GOP FREAK OUT About Ukraine Peace Talks!"
Date: December 1, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore (guest host Chris Keane)
Guests: Kurt Metzger, Misha Paulin
Main Theme:
A sharp, irreverent panel dissects the U.S.-brokered Ukraine peace talks, bipartisan outrage, media credibility crises, and the ongoing failures of political and media establishments. The hosts offer biting commentary on U.S. foreign policy, media consolidation (notably Bari Weiss's new CBS role), and the manipulation of public perceptions about war, division, and political leadership.
1. Overview of Episode
This episode’s central focus is the potential peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, brokered by the Trump administration and the resulting backlash from both Democrats and Republicans ("the Uniparty"). The panelists delve into the United States’ outsized role in the Ukraine conflict, growing domestic skepticism about continued military aid, and the media’s attempts to control the narrative. The show also lampoons prominent voices in media (Bari Weiss, Bono) and exposes the shortcomings of establishment politics on issues ranging from poverty to endless war.
2. Key Discussion Points & Insights
2.1 Ukraine Peace Talks and U.S. Involvement
[01:55–14:18]
- Breaking Peace News: Chris Keane reports the Trump admin has brokered a peace deal ("We might have peace in Ukraine. We might now. Donald Trump said he was gonna end the Ukraine war in 24 hours." [01:55])
- Deal Details & Controversies:
- The U.S.-authored 28-point plan requires Ukraine to cede a fifth of its territory, dramatically shrink its military, and abandon NATO ambitions (Wei Jia Jiang, [03:23], Chris Keane, [06:26]).
- Democratic and Republican politicians both express outrage — Dems call it "pro-Russian," while neocon Republicans object to Ukrainian concessions.
- Battlefield Reality:
- U.S. Army Sec. Driscoll tells Ukraine it faces "imminent defeat" and U.S. can't sustain arms flow ([06:26]; Driscoll’s grim prognosis).
- Host Critiques:
- Kurt Metzger lambasts both parties and Europe/NATO for sabotaging earlier peace ([05:15–05:45]):
"They had a peace deal, if you recall, where it could have all been over right away... but scumbag Europe wanted to keep going."
- Chris and Kurt highlight U.S. aid hypocrisy — billions for Ukraine while Americans face poverty and homelessness ([06:16]):
"We have $174 billion to give to spend on Ukraine." — Chris Keane
- Kurt Metzger lambasts both parties and Europe/NATO for sabotaging earlier peace ([05:15–05:45]):
2.2 The Politics of Endless War
[10:02–16:43]
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Policy Disconnect:
- Mitch McConnell and the "turtle people" are mocked for pushing peace that "rewards aggression," despite polls showing Ukrainians reject losing territory ([10:04–11:19]).
- Kurt bluntly reveals his stance:
"I'm on Russia's side. I'm fully on Russia's side. Ukraine's not even a real fucking country." [11:14]
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Collapse of Support for Ukraine in the West:
- Social media trends shift; the panel notes Americans no longer care about Ukraine, referencing virtue-signaling and symbolic gestures (Ukraine flags, Twitter bios) ([05:57–06:14]).
- U.S. is accused of using Ukraine simply to "bleed" Russia, prolonging suffering for geopolitical aims ([13:34]):
"Everyone shrieking that the US peace plan betrays Ukraine has, in fact, betrayed Ukraine by exploiting its divisions..."
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Historical Parallels and Media Amnesia:
- Missed 2022 Istanbul peace talks are cited as a lost opportunity—terms then were more favorable to Ukraine; 1.4 million now dead ([14:46–16:43]):
"This means... Ukraine and Russia came close to a peace agreement in April 2022 that was in many respects more favorable to Kyiv." — Chris Keane
- Missed 2022 Istanbul peace talks are cited as a lost opportunity—terms then were more favorable to Ukraine; 1.4 million now dead ([14:46–16:43]):
2.3 Media Manipulation, Bari Weiss & Trust in News
[19:21–29:08]
- Bari Weiss’s CBS Appointment:
- Chris and Kurt skewer Bari Weiss’s claim to represent "the center"—and her goal to define the "acceptable" bounds of debate ([19:50–24:34])
"She's going to tell us what's acceptable debate in American political and cultural life." — Chris Keane [19:56] "It's just going to be all that woke shit, but now it'll be us, the great nation of Israel, doing it?" — Kurt Metzger [21:11]
- Bari insists her leadership will restore trust via "enthusiastic, charismatic" centrist news (Bari Weiss, [22:43]).
- Chris and Kurt skewer Bari Weiss’s claim to represent "the center"—and her goal to define the "acceptable" bounds of debate ([19:50–24:34])
- Panel’s Take:
- Mainstream media, they argue, has always lied—just better at it in the Cronkite era ([23:44–24:03]).
- The Free Press’s sale to Paramount for $150M is evidence the media is an elite racket ([26:44–27:23]).
- Any push for 'balance' is shown to be another elite attempt to gatekeep opinions—especially when it comes to Israel ([28:11–28:22]).
2.4 Manufactured Division – Joe Rogan on "Unity"
[31:58–40:55]
- Joe Rogan Clip:
- Rogan's viral statement:
"If you're clinging on to this left versus right... you're getting caught up in their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing..." — Joe Rogan [31:58]
- Panel agrees: division is manufactured by "foreign governments and special interest groups" ([32:49]).
- Online debates are constantly manipulated by bots/shills, not real people ([34:39–36:41]).
- "We have more in common than what divides us. And that is their biggest fear. That we finally come together." — Misha Paulin [39:41]
- Rogan's viral statement:
2.5 The Futility of the Two-Party System & Populist Anger
[41:46–49:42]
- Tucker Carlson Segment:
- Tucker denounces the Republican Party as "betrayers":
"I hate them too much because they're such betrayers." — Tucker Carlson [41:52]
- Both parties ignore quality-of-life issues, leading to economic despair, populist surges, and the doomed hope for real change.
- Tucker denounces the Republican Party as "betrayers":
- Effects of U.S. Foreign Aid:
- $174B for Ukraine, $21B for Israel (since Oct 7), $300B to Israel since 1946—all cited while domestic poverty soars ([47:44–49:02]).
- The panel asserts:
"It's a big club and you, ain't it? And that keeps proving itself true over and over again." — Chris Keane [49:53]
2.6 Bono, Trump Derangement, and American "Ideas"
[49:53–59:57]
- Viral Bono Clip:
- Bono claims America is the best idea, but Trump is "potentially the worst idea" ([50:36–51:18]).
- Hosts ridicule Bono's hypocrisy in befriending Bush, a proven warmonger.
"Lied country into illegal invasion of Iraq, killed a million people... These are Bono's good Republican friends here." — Chris Keane [52:18]
- Kurt:
"Those aren't really ideas, though. No, Donald Trump's more of an idea." [54:59]
- Panel suggests the real evil is U.S. policy, economic inequality, and bipartisan warmongering—Trump is just one more symptom.
3. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the Ukraine Peace Plan:
"The plan would put a 600,000 person limit on Ukraine's military and bar Ukraine or any other new member from NATO." — Chris Keane [06:26]
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War & Hypocrisy:
"We have $174 billion to give to spend on Ukraine." — Chris Keane [06:16]
"You ever fly into Chicago... do you want to give your change to Ukraine at self checkout? My change to Ukraine? ...Don't want to fight the war, and the reason I know is because they have to keep stuffing people into vans to make them do it." — Kurt Metzger [06:49] -
Endless War as Policy:
"Everyone shrieking that the US peace plan betrays Ukraine has, in fact, betrayed Ukraine by exploiting its divisions, backing a coup, sabotaging reasonable diplomatic opportunities, and using it to bleed Russia." — Chris Keane [13:34]
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Media Satire:
"So she's going to tell us what's acceptable debate in American political and cultural life." — Chris Keane [19:56]
"I find it hard to believe Alan Dershowitz is one of the most electrifying..." — Kurt Metzger [20:13] -
On Manufactured Division:
"If you're clinging on to this left versus right... you're getting caught up in their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing..." — Joe Rogan [31:58]
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On U.S. Establishment:
"It's a big club and you, ain't it? And that keeps proving itself true over and over again." — Chris Keane [49:53]
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Bono & American Ideals:
"America is like the best idea the world ever came up with. But Donald Trump is potentially the worst idea..." — Bono [50:36], mocked by panel for naivete and hypocrisy.
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On Presidents and Policy:
"We all learned that the president ain't in charge like that, didn't we?" — Kurt Metzger [56:08]
4. Important Timestamps
- 02:13–04:50: Trump peace plan specifics and bipartisan backlash
- 06:14–07:14: U.S. aid to Ukraine, and neglect of American poor
- 10:02–11:19: "Turtle people" and polling in Ukraine; Kurt’s blunt pro-Russia stance
- 13:34–14:18: Ukrainian deaths, betrayals by the West, Istanbul talks
- 19:21–24:49: Bari Weiss, CBS, and the gatekeeping of acceptable debate
- 31:58–34:16: Joe Rogan’s viral “unity” message
- 41:46–43:15: Tucker Carlson's denunciation of the GOP
- 47:44–49:02: U.S. foreign aid vs. domestic poverty
- 50:36–54:59: The Bono clip and America as "idea" debate
- 56:33–59:57: Poverty, homelessness, and the bipartisan failures — leading to Trump’s appeal
5. Tone and Style
The tone is sarcastic, irreverent, and combative—often profane. The panel employs fast-paced banter, pop culture riffs, and caustic humor to expose the staggering disconnect between elites ("the Uniparty") and the struggles of average Americans. Quotations are delivered in their natural register: biting, informal, punctuated by mockery and exasperation.
6. Summary Takeaways
- Peace in Ukraine might be near—but only by imposing harsh terms on Ukraine and triggering bipartisan outrage for reasons that have little to do with Ukrainians’ actual interests.
- Both U.S. parties, the State Department, and the media are portrayed as arms of a global oligarchy, far removed from ordinary citizens’ concerns.
- Media narratives are manufactured and policed by powerful elites (like Bari Weiss at CBS/Paramount), who sell "centrism" as tolerance while excluding genuine dissent.
- Populist frustrations—whether expressed by Trump voters, progressive critics, or Rogan’s call for unity—are rooted in persistent poverty, endless war, and systemic betrayal by both wings of the establishment.
- The show urges listeners to question "acceptable" narratives—about war, politics, and who benefits from keeping the public divided.
“We have more in common than what divides us. And that is their biggest fear. That we finally come together.”
— Misha Paulin [39:41]
