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Every style, every home.
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Hey, come see me on tour in Lansing, Milwaukee, San Antonio, Albuquerque, Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. And don't go anywhere else because if you do, they'll charge you more.
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Establishment media sucks August lighting.
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So good luck.
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Bullshit we can't afford why he's fomenting
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this watch and see as his jack off the median speeds and jumps the.
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And when it's necessary to scare enemies and on occasion, kill them. And Jimmy.
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Yeah. Yes. Kurt.
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I just killed a man. Jimmy. We're doing it. Jimmy.
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His hair looks like he had his photo taken while falling into the abyss. That's what it looks like. Look. Show him, Jimmy. So you remember this guy? This is Alex Karp. He's a meth head. And also the head of Palantir. Palantir, which, by the way, has all your data. It's the. So you know how the government isn't legally allowed to spy on you, even though they do. Well, Palantir is a private company that was actually funded and started by the CIA and works for this. Their one client seems to be the CIA. Anyway, this is Palantir. He's in charge of the surveillance state that you now live under. And remember when he flipped out during an interview with this guy? Remember he was doing this.
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A lot of decisions when we began talking. Annoying each other 10 years ago. Hopefully I'm annoying you as much as 10 years ago or more when. When. When I made a. You know, this every decision.
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So. So. So he's back at it.
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That's an early 90s Tom Arnold I'm looking at.
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Yeah. So he's back at it. And he's. Palantir Technology CEO Alex Karp couldn't stay seated in his chair as he proudly stated, we kill people. Sometimes while speaking to his shareholders. This is real hair.
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Before you say that shit.
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Oh. So let's watch. And I. You know, I can't wait for this day to end when the guys who are the most powerful business guys in the room show up in T shirts that you know, I guess Simon Cowell kind of started that by hosting a national television show in a T shirt instead of wearing a collared shirt and looking nice. So now every asshole in the world wants to wear a T shirt when they go to work because it makes them look. Oh, he must really be powerful. Because look, he can dress like it's laundry day with when he goes to work. When he's on an. He's doing an earnings, he's doing a call with to his investors.
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That's my dream to do that. To wear an undershirt while I talk to my jerk off investors. And they have to tolerate. They probably got dressed up too.
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Oh, here we go. Oh, here we go. Ready? And so let's listen to what he said.
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Alex, as always, we have a lot of individual investors on the line. Is there anything you'd like to say
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before we end the call?
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We're doing it. We're doing it. And I'm sure you're enjoying this as much as I am. Let's not talk to analysts about the burden of being right. Our burdens of investing in ontology. Our burdens of actually looking at the math. The burden of reading what the rule of 40 is, the burden of being honest about what an enterprise software company is. Or the burden of explaining to your friends that you're really happy. Maybe we should just stop talking about it. I'm very happy to have you along for the journey. And. And you are partners for us. Every Palantirian. We are crushing it. Everyone else who's listening, we are dedicating our company. We have dedicated our company to the service of the west and the United States of America. And we're super proud of the role we play, especially in places we can't talk about. And we love our success in the US and globally. Also, we are doing in the United Kingdom and many other places. Palantir is here to disrupt and make the institutions we partner with the very best in the world. And when it's necessary to scare enemies and on occasion, kill them. And.
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Jimmy.
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Yeah. Yes. Kurt.
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I just killed a man. Jimmy.
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Woo.
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I hope that's annoying. We're doing it, Jimmy.
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His hair looks like he had his photo taken while falling into the abyss. That's what it looks like. Look. Show him, Jimmy.
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We're doing it.
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So here it says, when a CEO treats lethal force like a quirky product feature, that's not bravado, that's rot.
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That is our Palantir logo. Thank you. That's not bravado. That's right. Yeah. Sometimes it's right.
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Sometimes it's right. I like what she says. Shannon Watts says, imagine if a woman running a company that earns billions from government contracts showed up at an investor meeting wearing a T shirt with unbrushed hair and then while gesturing like a meth addict, celebrated killing people.
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That's not what Hillary does.
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I think she brushes her hair. She wears a brooch. She doesn't wear a T shirt.
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And.
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And she does. She's not doing this the whole time.
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Hey. Yeah. Hillary sits very still. Sometimes she'll go like this at balloons. Look at his arms.
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Kim Dotcom says, Peter Thiel and Alex Karp murdered innocent children in Gaza. They may welcome, they may have money, but they have no respect. When you see gore videos of Palestinian kids without limbs, those guys are probably involved. Imagine making money by killing children. I couldn't sleep at night. Well, they don't have any problem.
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Yeah, well, sometimes we kill children. We're doing it.
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I don't know, Kim Dotcom. Doesn't look like you sleep at night. I don't know if you've looked very close.
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Yeah, probably a CPAP machine, I'd imagine.
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He doesn't look like he sleeps at all. Kim.com. maybe he hangs upside down like Batman.
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That would probably just sitting in a comfy chair, I bet.
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But I'm. I'm the Steve Jobs of killing people. That's a great. I like that.
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I'm trying to do his perfect Alex car.
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How about this one? Oh, yeah, that's great. Buys me that guy. Remember that. Enough. You've seen now. Misha hasn't seen this movie.
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Oh.
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Oh, it's.
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Oh, I want to watch it with you.
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Yeah, but Lord of the Rings terms. Come on. Palantir, Dr. Strangelove, Bilbo.
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So let's. Let's remember what he. What he has said previously.
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You're. You need a higher purpose. And I also think you often need a lower purpose. Like the higher purpose for me.
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What's a lower purpose?
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Well, I love the idea of getting a drone and having light fentanyl laced urine spraying on analysts who tried to
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screw us a dream.
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Wow. The lower purpose spray drug piss on everybody. Wow.
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I got plenty of that, Jimmy. I got plenty of drug piss. I just need you just give me the drone, show me the lobbyist.
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Talk about public enema number one. Am I right? Come on. Come on.
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Are you sure you would have fentanyl pee there, buddy? It looks like you're on Adderall pee to me. Yeah, and I'm gonna say something a lot stronger than Adderall is my guess.
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Yeah.
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Because I never even. Destiny, who I'm pretty sure is does meth because of jaw.
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Yeah.
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Never seen him do that.
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Never saw. Never. You know, here's what Kim Iverson has to say about Alex Carp.
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He wrote a book. At its core, this book isn't just a book about AI. It is essentially a manifesto. The technological republic, hard power, soft belief, and the future of the West. And what he means by that is pretty radical. The tech elite, Silicon Valley founders, engineers, AI builders shouldn't just build property products and chase markets. They should basically function as a governing class, not elected politicians, but a strategic elite working hand in hand with the state to shape the country's direction.
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Now, now we've, we've talked about this. Steve Bannon brought this up when he came on the show. Remember, he was talking about how guys like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want to be these techno feudal overlords who, who rule us, Right? And it's not really a democracy, which it's not a democracy anyway. But she's saying that that's their plan. Now, we've talked about this. When we had on Derek Bros, he talked about how this has been a plan since World War II to have a techno state take over North America all the way from South America to the North Pole. And so that's. Yeah, this is not so that's really, by the way, that's what's happening. Unless you know it or not, that's we are now under the thumb of Palantir surveillance state.
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That's right. And we're going to take more land and we're going to be on speed. Does that remind you of anybody from history? It better not. It better not remind you.
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Better not remind you of Hitler. But here we go. Now, he says.
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Now he says Silicon Valley just builds food delivery apps, dating apps, social media stuff. He says that markets are too democratic, that they just give people what they want, not what they need. You're giving them entertainment. What they need is supposedly AI weapons systems, battlefield autonomy, surveillance infrastructure, military coordination tools. He doesn't frame AI military dominance as a reluctant necessity. He frames it as a moral imperative. So in his view, building military AI is virtuous because it defends the West. He encourages tech companies to work closely with the Pentagon, intelligence agencies and law enforcement. He wants that fusion of tech AI surveillance in our government. He argues for this. He actually sees this as a good thing. And then he goes on to say when he's promoting his book. Oh yeah, and by the way, I want to spray my critics with fentanyl laced urine. Alex Karp now has many people in our government by the nuts. Now that we've integrated all of this AI tech into the government, really the government has been like this for a while. We've seen this with the military industrial complex. The people that made the missiles, people that make all the bombs, the people that make all the airplanes, all the tech, they essentially been controlling our government. That's why we're in endless war. So that is what the military industrial complex has been able to do, is hold our nation hostage by being so powerful. And now it's the AI guys.
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And now it's the AI guys.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, when he says that they're crushing it. They were doing really good. But here now it seems to be. It's. It's going downhill, Jimmy.
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We call crushing. It is not what you think you want, it's what you need. And we needed for it to go downhill. Now we need to spy on you.
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So Palantir's 1984 Level spyware could be used to prevent crime, but instead it's being used to murder God knows who from God knows where and God knows why with our tax dollars. At Palantir, we believe that software is the critical enabler of modern mission systems. Since 2008, we proudly partnered with the US army, embedding alongside users to design and deploy modern mission essential software. Today, Palantir solutions are deployed across nearly every army mission area. Oh, okay. No big deal.
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We're doing it. We're doing it.
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And no one, she says, no one still ever mentions a disease surveillance piece. Transhumanist controlled. Palantir was tasked with surveilling SARS CoV2, the novel pathogen that accelerates biological aging in humans. They gained legitimacy and then they moved to AI warfare. So Americans never hear about this. For some reason, it's puddling. CDC awards Palantir consolidated disease surveillance contract worth a half a billion dollars. Palantir supplying Israel with new tools since Hamas war started. Data firm to hold board meeting in Tel Aviv for first time CEO Alex Karp. Peter Thiel met Israel president during the visit. Wow. So. And just to let you know what else he has said, Alex Karp has said the US will very likely fight a three front war against Russia, China and Iran. That's what, that's what they're. That's where they make their money.
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Fingers crossed. We're going to be doing it and
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it's going to Happen. Here's just. Palantir's mega database combines all of your data into mass surveillance. Nightmare. Medical records, facial scans, location tracking, Social Security, bank accounts, tax filings, student debt, visa status. Created by billionaire Peter Thiel. It's a blueprint for tracking, profile, and controlling your life. Now, no big deal. That's who. That's who's. So you want to know about what's a shadow government? There's your. There's your shadow government.
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Do you realize Alex Karp has the same intro to talking about this as. As Tony does? To kill Tony. Because we're doing it.
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Because we're doing it.
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That's what killed as a Tony. Yes. We're doing it.
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We're doing it.
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Yeah. Did Alex Karp steal that amazing opening, do you think?
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So There's Alex Karp, a guy who has more power than you thought and should, and most people don't know who he is.
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Sorry.
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Sorry. So what we are is the frog in the pot, and it's slowly boiling, and we don't notice. And people don't notice because they're too busy trying to afford gas and groceries and schooling and healthcare and their pharmaceuticals and also try to squeeze in a vacation, if that's possible. So that's what's going on. People don't have time yet. But once the US Dollar is no longer the reserve currency of the world and they're their 401ks tank and the dollar tanks and their whole savings tank and their retirement tanks and their houses tank, then. Then there will be people in the street, and we will have a revolution. But until then, we're going to be ruled by criminals.
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You're going to be lucky to have a frog in a pot, Jimmy. Honestly, I don't even think you'll be entitled to fentanyl urine the way you're talking.
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I know.
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By the way, that frog in the pot myth that everybody says no frog will jump right out. They won't sit there and boil. So the guy that said that is some weird German vivisectionist who cut out part of the frog's brain in an amazing fauci like experiment and then discovered it won't move.
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Oh, wow. It's brilliant.
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But you know what? It's. It still works, because that's America. Half you got half your brain cut out, and you sit there like a frog, like a lobotomized frog.
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And if you want to hear my jokes about this, come see me in Lansing, Milwaukee, San Antonio, Albuquerque, Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com Clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Let's talk groceries, specifically your groceries. With Instacart, you want your groceries just the way you like them, right? Well, the Instacart app lets you do just that. They have a new preference picker that lets you pick how ripe or unripe you want your bananas. Shoppers can see your preferences upfront, helping guide their choices. Instacart get groceries just how you like.
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He's kind of this independent power broker working with a series of other independent power brokers together who form some kind of supra government. Above all, representative government in the West. That's the clear, you know.
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So, like, what is that?
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Yeah. Do you think?
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Interesting, Tucker, after taking a minute to think about what's happening with the Epstein files and what it reveals, he says it reveals that we actually don't have a real government and that we have a supra government. Let's listen. Supra sounds like a shadow government, like a Celica, like from Toyota. But no, that's a different supra. Let's listen.
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You knew everybody.
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Yeah.
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In every country. And he's winging on every event of the moment that he's living in. So, like, he's shorting the global financial crisis. He's discussing the fall of Gaddafi in Libya before it happens and trying to figure out how to profit from that.
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Totally plugged in.
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Like at a level that, you know, as someone who just like covers government, I feel like I know plugged in people never met anyone that plugged in. Yeah. So what is this? He represents no government. He clearly works for Mossad. He clearly works for CIA, clearly isn't or is in contact with both. And clearly British intelligence. So he's not working for Israel. He's not working for the United States. He's not working for the UK exclusively. He's not working for anybody, really. He's kind of this independent power broker working with a series of other independent power brokers together who form some kind of supra government, above all, representative government in the West. That's the clear. You know. So, like, what is that?
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Yeah, do you think we'll see arrest?
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Well, it's been almost 20 years that some of this material has been in the custody of governments. Most of it is still hidden and there have been no arrests. Instead, there's been a consistent, over decades effort to shield the people exposed from arrest. So, no. I mean, there may be performative arrests, but the big question is not, was there blackmail?
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Yes.
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Was there sex with minors? Of course. Was there some kind of weird religious practice that we would describe as witchcraft?
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Oh, yeah.
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But the bigger question is, like, what was this? It's clearly an informal governance body over what the rest of us consider the authorities, which is to say governments, nation states.
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So that is what's revealing, who really runs things. And again, like I told you, when there's a session of Congress, do you really think they're in there doing the bidding of students or the elderly or workers or the sick or citizens in general? They're in there Medicaid, they're in there doing the bidding of the oligarchs, the people who really run the world, just like Donald Trump is doing their bidding. Do you, do you think regular people, when they voted for Donald Trump, they're like, oh, I hope he goes into Venezuela, I hope he chokes off Cuba, I hope he tries to take over Greenland, I hope he bombs Iran, I hope he keeps funding the Ukraine war and the genocide and then I hope he bombs you think anybody? Nobody. Oh, nobody. Even the people today say, yeah, I voted for that. They did not, because they were running on the exact opposite of that. Ending the war in 24 hours, taking the money we spend on war, investing it back in the United States, Trump was talking about cutting the military budget in half and now he's quadrupling it from, from half to quadrupled. So it's all, that's my boo Jimmy. Right? That's my Doge, that's my quadruple. That those was always a lie. Doge was a big scam. It was a distraction. It was to keep the people on the left and the right hating each other. It worked like a charm. And so we do have a we. So this idea that again, that you would get caught up in this left, right dichotomy is silly. You have to really be a Trump to not see through it. And so what happened to a lot of people that I know, personally, when Trump got elected, that's when they started paying attention to politics. And so it had. It took 10 years for them to realize, oh, my God, the Democrats and the Republicans are playing a game on us. It took 10. Now, finally, people who started to pay attention to politics in 2016, it took 10 years for them to now go, oh, I see. They all work for the same people. They're all. They're both screwing us. It doesn't matter who we vote for. What's that?
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You've seen these people feel that. I haven't.
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Yeah, I have. I have seen people starting to wake up to that. Yeah. Saying that you should withhold your vote from the Democrats stuff. I've seen that. And we're going to cover it.
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In fact, on Wednesday, I guess Tucker chewing up that remedial shit and spitting into their mouth like a baby bird does work.
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Yeah. And let's remember what. What Charlie Kirk said about not the exact same thing, because he didn't know about the Epstein files, what was in them yet. But here's. He's making a similar point. Let's listen.
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Intel agencies were then used inwardly against us. And that has really been the story the last 30 to 40 years, which is our intel services are supposed to gather intelligence and defend the homeland and to keep us domestically safe. But it turns out they're actually more about picking winners and losers in American elections and to thwart the will of popular sovereignty.
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So that's why that Dilbert guy, Scott Adams, when he says, I trust the CIA to lie to me to keep me safe, that's. That. That is such a childish. I don't want to speak poorly of the dead. I like time. I like. I liked him. I love his cartoon. But. But that was.
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Defend himself.
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That was such a ridiculous thing to say that. I trust the CIA to lie to me to keep me safe. I trust Trump to lie to me. I trust the government to lie to me. That is the really one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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He knows now. And now rational Jesus and rational heaven is laughing at him.
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That's right. So that's why. Because the CIA isn't working on your behalf, just like the President isn't working on your behalf. Yeah, none of them are working on your behalf. Just like Tucker Carlson just said, there's a supra government. And just like Charlie Kirk knew even before the Epstein files got released that the intelligence community is making up a sort of super government above the government, the shadow government, and they actually run things administrative.
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The Shadow government is who's above the deep state. I've seen people talking about this for years. It's not super at shadow. I, I, look, let me, yeah, let me finish.
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What Charlie says actually runs this government. The first term, we were kind of under this very naive idea that the people run the government. And then we were like, well, it's the lobbyists. But after I think seven or eight years and it's taken time. It's the administrative state and the intel agencies. Yes, it's this fourth branch of government that the founders never created, they never designed, there was no intent for. And that fourth branch of government is unaccountable, has unknown biographies of people that are running it, and they're there for unlimited amounts of time. There's no term limits. They're not elect and they're unelected. You have all these unknown amounts of people and what are they doing? And it's a black box budget. And I believe that all roads lead back to the intel agencies on all this stuff. And so. But Tulsi is now getting under the hood. This revelation of Russiagate is massive.
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It's huge.
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I know.
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And God bless her for doing this. Who's running the United States government.
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So that was, I felt the same way back then. I felt the same way like, oh, so now they're going to expose the deep state to manufactured a fake hoax called Russiagate, and now they're going to arrest some of those people. And they didn't do any of that.
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How long ago was this before Trump had got it?
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This is, this was when he was still alive. And so, no, this was, this was before he died. So this is when we thought, this is before we saw the real game being played. Nobody's going to jail for Russiagate. Trump is now the new deep state. He's working for the shadow government, the same. No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. And we are, I thought naively too, like, oh, Tulsi is going to get in there and blow this thing wide open. She's making. I thought so, but of course, now we know better. Tulsi flipped and she's also working with the deep state now because she's part of the administration and the price for admission is to go along with the deep state and the shadow government. And she's going along with it, which is why she flip flopped on Venezuela, flip flopped on Cuba, and flip flop, famously on Gaza.
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In fairness to her and to Chris Cuomo and to many of these people, she's probably been trained since a Very small child to flip flop that way because MK Monarch is real. And all the pundits and stars, movie stars and the mom dummies and the AOCs and all of them got put through it. And that's why they seem like they were cast in a teen drama. That's why.
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Well, there's a little bit more to this. Let's listen question.
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If we do not smash the administrative state in the Deep State in the coming six to 12 months, then we're actually not going to. We're not going to bring this entire intelligence apparatus to heel. We have to lance the boil because it's gone so out of control. And I can tell you they are deeply fearful of this movement. They know that we are aware, they know that we are noticing things and
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that's why they killed him. And so now he's out of the way and they don't have to. So that's one of the reasons why they killed him, because he was too powerful. He could actually mobilize people against them. And so he was just a pain in the ass all the way around for the deep state, the establishment, the shadow government, the people who really run things. He got to be for Israel, certainly he became a big pain in the ass. So they had to get rid of him because he wanted to have the government put back into the hands of the people. Which is not happening. That is not happening.
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If it's any kind of consolation, they probably had planned to kill him the whole time.
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Yeah, the whole time.
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The whole time that we're seeing patterns, that we know how powerful the intel agencies have become. And so that's why I think Russiagate really matters, is that it's a way to hold them accountable, to see how.
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And they're not, they're not holding anybody accountable for Russiagate. It's just all over. And now everybody in the FBI are all buddies. They're all one group team again. They're all covering up the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt. They're all covering up the Charlie Kirk assassination. They're all going along with Venezuela, Cuba, Ukraine, Gaza, Iran, Yemen. They're all going along with all of it. So there is no exposure of the Deep State because of Russia Gay. That was just a. That was a. I feel like a sucker for even hoping that that would happen.
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I know. And I never had faith, but I still feel like a sucker. I. I can't believe what I believe right now. I just can't believe it.
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I don't know. Should I even read this?
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What was that?
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Yo, Tucker, People Hear super government and think pure conspiracy. But the Epstein case does show one real problem. Different rules for ultra connected versus everyone else. The question that actually matters. Why has so much evidence sat for decades with so little accountability out? Well, that's answer the question kind of answers itself. It's because everybody's in on it, that's why.
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Because the people, kids, they didn't want to say nothing.
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Because the people who run the country are in the files. That's why the people who actually run the world are in the files. That's why.
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That's why all your heroes are in it. Hey, I'm in it, but I didn't do nothing, Jimmy. I'm just an important guy.
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Tucker just pointed out something people have been uneasy about for years. The sense that there are layers of influence operating far beyond what most citizens ever get to see. You don't need conspiracy theories to notice the pattern. Many major scandals involving powerful people often end with no real accountability, no arrests and no clear answers. Like 9, 11. Like the stock market crash, banking crash of 2008. Like the Libyan war. Like this torture program. Like the Iraq war. Like the drone program that killed 90% innocent people. Like all that. Like all that. Like Covid. But it's the same thing. The Epstein case is the clearest example. Two decades of documents, testimony and reporting. Yet the outlook looks nothing like what would happen if the same evidence involved ordinary people. That disconnect isn't just frustrating. It erodes trust in the very institutions meant to uphold justice. When people start asking whether representative government is doing the job it claims to do, they're really asking why. Transparency seems to stop exactly where power begins. So the real question becomes what mechanisms would actually force sunlight into places that have resisted it for decades? I'm going to say nothing. Yeah, not there's nothing.
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Federation would have to have a talk with Israel.
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There's no way to get control of our government through voting or any. You're going to have to have some kind of real revolution. I know that sounds crazy, but when the American dollar crashes after when. When let's say Russia and China, India, Brazil decide to go on another dollar besides the United States reserve currency. Let's say they go on the Chinese dollar. It's over for us. Our economy craters, our dollars. Everyone's retirements are wiped out. Everything gets wiped out. And that's what's going to lead to a revolution. And until then, people aren't going to wake up. Even though 50% of the country can't afford a $400 emergency. 80% of people have work paycheck to paycheck, even though 50% of wage earners earn $30,000 or less. It's not enough misery to make people get in the streets and have a real revolution.
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You know why? Because they're dying out. The people that are disappointed, a generation, whatever it is, Alpha, they don't expect nothing. Those are the new people. So they tie you up with bullshit identity millennials and zoomies and boomies and all that. And while everybody fights, we all die. And then the new generation doesn't believe in nothing to begin with, so you can't disappoint them.
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So this is. I thought it was an interesting tweet. Kurt, what do you make of it?
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Yeah, I seen that.
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VC Campbell says there's a huge network and it leads back to Satan. The Rothschilds, it is said, leave a place for Satan at the table. In 1963, so the story goes, the Vatican enthroned Satan. Look at what the Vatican has become since then. The audience hall is a snake from. For goodness sake.
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Yeah, I mean, there's no. Look. If you're standing in the back and see that you don't. It doesn't dawn on anybody that that's fucking crazy. Look at that.
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Look at that.
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Look at the googly eyes on the snake, too.
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That's disturbing. Show that. That. That doesn't dawn on anybody that that's a snake.
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It's cartoonish. How much it's a snake.
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Yeah.
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And you see the eyes. Look at it like. Are you. Are you guys kidding me? You literally can't see this, you retards. That's what it's saying.
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Okay, if you want to hear my jokes about this, come see me in Lansing, Milwaukee, Albuquerque, Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. I don't get Mark Pacio.
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I'm gonna have on my podcast Thursday. But Mark Pasio, ex leve church guy, he explains it very well. You got to think of it like in ancient times, if you knew psychology, like pickup artistry, tricks when other people didn't. That's what this occult stuff is. It's psychology and neuro linguistic programming. And that backfired bigly. Everyone has to say this phrase. That's how it works. And then that way they can use something like this, this Rorschach test design, to see how well the control is. And if you see the snake, then they don't have you. And if you don't see it, they got you. Get it.
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This is where I stepped in it, Jimmy.
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Yes. Here it comes. If you guys been wondering, what did he say? This is what he said.
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I said you got to read all the studies, right? All of them.
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This is called doing your own research. And you're not supposed to do this. Even it back. We have our special guest with us. Mark Crispin Miller is here. He's a noted social critic and professor of media, culture and communications at New York University. He's the author of numerous books, including Boxed in the Bush, this Lexicon, and fooled again. In 2020, NYU launched an investigation into him after fellow faculty members complain about his unorthodox views and coverage of controversial topics. His writings currently appear on the substack titled News from Underground and the extended trailer for his documentary, we're going to play that today. He's got a new documentary in the works right now. It's called Reading the World the Life. Here, I'll show it to you. Reading the World the Life and Times of Mark Crispin Miller. So welcome to the show. Welcome back. Mark Crispin Miller. How are you, pal?
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I'm okay. How are you?
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I'm doing well. I'm doing well, you know, in getting along with my new friends very well after Covid. How about yourself?
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Oh, no, I think those people are dead to me.
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Yes, they are. It's still painful, you know, because the people who are dead to me are very, very funny comedians. And I miss them. I miss their humor and their camaraderie, but they really went the wrong way during COVID and it's. It's painful. I miss them.
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It is. And it's actually having an effect on how some people view this film. That's a little teaser for you.
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Oh.
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What I want to.
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I want to add, Jimmy, that the director, producer of the film, my wife Amy Smiley, is actually sitting next to me. So, you know, if. If it's appropriate, when we get into the film, she. She may have some things to say.
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Okay, sure. I just want to let people know that, you know, you've been a big deal in, you know, people who are skeptics of power, the establishment, the oligarchy. You've been. You've taught a class on how propaganda works at NYU University. So you've been on the forefront of this. You're considered, you know, an anti establishment figure and much needed, by the way. In fact, we've got a lot of praise. David Foster Wallace said of you. Miller's 1986 deride and conquer, the best essay ever written on network advertising, details vividly an example of how TV's contemporary appeal to the lone viewer works. Also, Katrina Vandenoovle, who was in charge of the Nation, she says, I say this with praise. He was a heretic. And heretics challenge the so called conventional wisdom. I don't know why she acts like you're dead, but you're. You're still alive. You're still. You're still doing that. You're still doing it.
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I had the same reaction to that quote. I wish that hadn't, you know, been in the past tense, because I am still here.
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Maybe, maybe the Mark Crispin Miller we all knew is dead to her anyway. He is the most systemic thinker alive in the world. Naomi Wolf. So lots of people have said lots of nice things about you here is that. And the question is, how did a young Shakespeare scholar end up as a leading expert on the propaganda that pervades the world today? So how did that happen? Is this. That's what this film is going to tell us, right?
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That's this. That's the arc of my career. That's the story we're going to tell. Because it's, you know, far more important a story than the one we discussed last time I was on, which was mainly about how NYU tried to get rid of me and also forbid me to teach my propaganda course.
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Because you were debunking the propaganda around Covid and they didn't want you to do that, so they took that course away from you. Right?
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I wasn't even really debunking it. I was speaking hypothetically to my students about the fact that most propaganda courses in universities tend to dwell on. They tend to dwell on the past, totalitarian propaganda. And that reduces the subject to a kind of academic exercise. My view was, and remains to be that we study propaganda, not so we'll know what the Nazis did and the Bolsheviks did or what happened during the Cold War. Any decent propaganda course is going to teach the students how to spot propaganda and then how to determine whether it's truth or falsehood. Okay? And I used a hypothetical example the first day of class, saying, you know, we were. I was teaching it remotely, so I said, why? Why are we doing this? You hate this. I hate this. We're not in the same room. Well, it's because of COVID Now, there are many things we could discuss about COVID Say, for example, you decide to write a paper on masking. All right? Or we spend a week talking about masking. I said, if you're going to do that, you have to read all the literature on masking. I mentioned that all the most rigorous scientific studies on the subject had found that masks don't work. I told them this. I said, you will have to read those studies, but you also have to read the studies that recent studies that have been rushed out. I didn't say rushed out, but that find otherwise. Right. So this led one of the students in the class to demand that I be fired for putting the students at risk. She went on Twitter, and even though she had only 79, you know, followers, led to three big media hit pieces on me, including NBC News in New York. Clearly, the university was somehow behind this. And then a month later, most of my department colleagues demanded that I be investigated, that my conduct be scrutinized. They accused me not only of telling the students not to wear masks, which I had never done, but they accused me of hate speech and attacks on students. I mean, it was the whole woke playbook, you know, And I had done none of these things. I've never done things like that. The class had always been very popular, so they didn't fire me, but they did tell me that for the good of the department, the following semester, I shouldn't teach the course. And then it turned out that the next semester stretched into the subsequent semesters, and they never wanted me to teach it again. You know, basically, I was found guilty of teaching the slaves to read. You follow me. That was the crime. I have never. I've never told my students what to think. I. I offer myself as a kind of example of how you go about thinking critically for yourself. Okay, so the arc of my career, to get back to your original question, you know, I started out as a grad student in English. I was an English professor for several years. I studied and taught Shakespeare, Renaissance literature, and also American film. Now, as I studied the great films that had come out of Hollywood, I discovered that you can subject these great movies to the same kind of close reading that I had learned in graduate school, you know, to deal with great literary texts. So I shifted over to the movies. And then I discovered, idly watching a commercial one day with the sound turned down, I discovered that advertising is just. Is also a text. Advertising is something that we can also subject to very close reading. Now, ads are not like great works of literature. They're not ambiguous or subtle. Well, no, take that back. They're very subtle. And if you watch them with care, you discover what it is they're doing visually to try to get you to buy a deodorant, soap or cigarette or whatever. So I started studying advertising that way. So I was beginning to look at propaganda as a close reader, you see. And this then led me to start looking at political speeches. I was writing for magazines with human readers as opposed to academics. You know, I was writing, you know, for the New Republic, the Nation, Rolling Stone, And I was increasingly interested in these kinds of texts, you know, not literary texts per se, not cinematic texts per se, but commercial and political texts. And then this led me to discover the true depth and scale and nefariousness, dangerousness of propaganda across the board. And this at a time, you know, you mentioned it was in 2020 that this happened to me. Well, you know, there. It couldn't have been a timelier study than it has been since COVID started. And then it is now, right with this clown show in Washington. We have been living under a kind of serial bombardment by propaganda since 2020, one thing after another. So propaganda is not just, you know, lies in print or lies that come squawking out of a loudspeaker in the streets of China. Propaganda often comes at us as events. And the more closely we study those events, the more we see that these are not natural, organic happenings. Now, this is where some people roll their eyes. They call me a conspiracy theorist. But as I told my students back when I was allowed to teach the course, the study of propaganda is very difficult. Not intellectually difficult, but psychologically difficult and also socially difficult. Because if you allow yourself to take a careful, impartial, well informed look at what the propaganda is saying, you discover that it's false. And by the way, Jimmy, I'm not sitting here posing as someone who's beyond all that. I'm not acting like someone that this doesn't happen to. It continues to happen to me. I continue to discover that something I long believed is actually false and had a. Had a. Have had a purpose that, you know, one is obliged to figure out. Because propaganda, and I'm not exaggerating in combination with censorship, these things are going to be the death of us. So, you know, the point of my career really has been a growing realization of the danger posed by propaganda. And that's why I'm glad to be talking to your audience today.
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So just to put a button on the story of your Covid saga and your propaganda course at nyu, you did get some positive press in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. They printed a. Matt Taibbi did an article titled, meet the Censored Mark Crispin Miller.
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Yeah.
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NYU professor becomes the latest academic to fall foul of the idea Police.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Well, here's one. Here's one more from fire. They said NYU ignores Academic Freedom Investigates Mark Crispin Miller's course content. And then right at the bottom here, it says, contrary to the faculty members assertions in their letter, Miller's teaching an extramural. Sorry. Miller's teaching and extramural expressions are squarely protected by his right to academic freedom. So you actually ended up suing your faculty members at NYU over there, trying to get you kicked out. And so how did that turn out?
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Yeah, I sued them for libel. And it had an interesting effect on the university. They quickly threw my colleagues under the bus, which was kind of interesting. And, you know, that, I think relates to their. Their hidden hand behind all this because, you know, I've been canceled many times. The movie tells those stories. But the latest and gravest of my sins was to take that critical approach to the COVID propaganda, because NYU and Big Pharma are like peas in a pod. I could probably come up with a better metaphor than that. But, you know, what happened with the case was that I lost. I lost because the courts in New York are like that with nyu. NYU has a big, you know, famous law school. Most members of the bench have had various involvements giving talks for money or they taught at nyu. And so I lost for no legal reason. There was no legal justification for my losing the case. It's just that I came up against power and I couldn't overcome it. But they threw my colleagues under the bus. It'll be a cold day in hell before my colleagues do that to somebody else, which is important. So I'm about to retire. I'm no longer really at nyu. So life goes on. And I continue to teach in my own way, because I think that my teaching, which includes my substack writings and public lectures, you know, this is my life's mission. We absolutely have to protect democracy. We have to protect democracy by, you know, taking on the struggle against those things that threaten it. And as the trailer will show, that went through many different iterations. But the most important one of all is to encourage a careful, impartial, thoughtful study of propaganda so that we know it when we see it, because it tends to hide by disguising itself as something else.
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Right, right. So when you say that the NYU threw the faculty under the bus, how did that manifest? What did they do?
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Well, they laid off me, and they basically. I don't even think there was a review of my conduct, Jimmy. I think that was horseshit, because I never met any student or colleague who'd heard from anybody in the dean's office. So I think that was a threat. It was in preparation of bidding me farewell. But they stopped doing that, and now my colleagues were sort of on their own because NYU didn't want any part of, you know, libel action.
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This is the last part I play for the. Your. Your new movie. All about your life. Let's get into it. Horse on propaganda told his class that there is significant evidence masks don't help prevent the spread of COVID Wearing two
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masks or trying to get one of
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those N95 medical grade masks, do you believe that that's advisable and makes a difference?
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One of the things that the COVID rollout has done is to create a whole new category of forbidden speech, the vaccine.
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And as soon as NYU officials got wind of that, they weren't exactly pleased.
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If you raise questions about masking, you raise questions about vaccines. You even question the origins of the pandemic. You raise any questions at all, you're putting people at risk.
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Professor Mark Crispin Miller tweeted that NYU
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was displeased that he questioned masking in
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his online propaganda class.
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This is where I stepped in it, Jimmy.
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Yes. Here it comes. Have you guys been wondering, what did he say? This is what he said.
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I said, you got to read all the studies, right? All of them.
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This is called doing your own research. And you're not supposed to do this even. Even if you're a college professor, you're not supposed to read about COVID You're not supposed to read about masks or vaccines or anything to do with the virus or anything.
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My chair called and with a kind of forced joviality, suggested that for the good of the department, I not teach the propaganda course. Oh, my gosh. As scheduled. And as it happens, Jimmy, I have not been allowed to teach it since.
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No kidding.
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I can't teach it anymore. At nyu,
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Mark really taught us how to think independently in a way that I hadn't ever before. And I think it's something I utilize greatly to this day.
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I think it's about might makes right. I think it's about the President wants to have something to his name where he expanded, you know, the United States while he was in office.
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So what. What is the real purpose of Venezuela and Greenland? We all know the real purpose of Iran. What? What? What? And by the way, he can't get us out of. He's not getting us out of Ukraine, which it's. That's a whole nother story. But what is the real purpose of Venezuela and, and Greenland, right? We all know war is a racket. It's never what it appears. So what is it really, Jimmy?
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Didn't you know it was fentanyl until they found out, until they found out that Venezuela doesn't make fentanyl. And so then it was cocaine. But no, it's not just cocaine. It's narco terrorism and it's funded by the oil. Now this is where they lost me completely. If there's one industry that doesn't need subsidized by the oil industry, it's the cocaine industry, right? Like I'm pretty sure in the profit and loss balance sheet of Venezuela and the CIA that cocaine is a profit center. So don't tell me we needed to take their oil to keep them from selling cocaine. But that's what we did. And then they said, actually it's about a quarter of a century old contract that some of these oil companies had with the country of Venezuela and we're just coming in to enforce the contract and take their oil. But when did our soldiers become the policemen to enforce these civil contracts with foreign countries about who's going to drill and refine their oil anyway? So it became about the oil. But we've got enough oil. We got enough. If we want, we could be energy independent in this country. I think it's about them going away from the dollar, from engaging in trade with countries that were sanctioned. It was not what they said it was about. In the beginning they called fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. And they said that's why we got to bomb the boats and eventually why we got to go into Venezuela. What is Greenland about? Oh, by the way, while we're still on Venezuela, the constitution says that Congress appropriates the money. It couldn't be more clear. Okay, it's our job to write the checks. The founders made that the case. But the President and his geniuses at the White House have created a second treasury that's in Qatar. They're saying we're going to take all the oil money and we're going to put it in a bank overseas. So one of my questions is why does the bank need to be overseas when you create your second treasury? I think it's to hide it from the long arm of the law, from the judges who would say that is Congress's money. We're going to take that and put it in the treasury. You can't have money that you spend. Like it's one thing to confiscate money from another country. But it's another thing to spend it. And I was talking to a lawyer about this who was troubled, as troubled as I was about the President, the executive branch, taking the role of Congress to appropriate money. And I said, but doesn't the CIA do this every day? And he said, yes, but you. Congress wrote a law that lets the CIA do this. You've created no law to let the President have this alternate treasury that he can spend money out of on whatever he wants.
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And so what is Greenland really about?
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So this like. Like what Venezuela was about, how that morphed. Greenland is morphing as well. Sometimes. It's about the President didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. Like, he literally said that in his letter. And that was part of the reason I've hear people say, oh, there's resources there that can be mined. The most recent thing I hear is that it's necessary for the defense of our country, that if we're going to have our own golden dome, we need to have this piece of land to set things up on. My issue with that is, whatever it costs to acquire Greenland, you can create an oil rig or a floating platform anywhere. You know, offshore, somewhere in the ocean. I mean, Elon Musk is landing rockets backwards on floating platforms. We can have a missile defense that's mobile, and it's probably much more defensible that way. Like, can you imagine if the United States missile defense was, like, in one hole that we drilled in Greenland, and everybody was watching because they knew that's why we were doing it. All you got to do is take that place out, and then you could take out our missile defense. You'd be much better to have platforms that move around. So I don't think it's. And by the way, we do have some of that equipment. I'm not sharing secrets to tell you that we have floating platforms in the Pacific. You can see them with the big white dome. I've visited on congressional trips, but you can see these from satellites, and people know what they are. I'm not giving anything away. So I don't think it's about the missile defense. I think it's about might makes. Right? I think it's about the President wants to have something to his name where he expanded the United States while he was in office.
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Okay, so. Okay, that makes as much sense as anything because we already have a agreement with Greenland where you can use. We can do military exercises there. We can have our military bases. We can have things there. So. So we already have it. So you're right. Hey, Become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mike mccray.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Do not freak out.
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This episode focuses on the recent public statements and behavior of Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir Technologies, and uses his shareholder freakout as a lens to analyze broader issues surrounding the surveillance state, the military-industrial-tech complex, and “supra-government” power structures. The discussion leads into themes of propaganda and democratic accountability, featuring a deep interview with Mark Crispin Miller, noted critic of propaganda and academic freedom.
Jimmy and his co-hosts highlight the absurdity of Karp’s bravado about lethal force and tie it to the ongoing concern that tech oligarchs, shielded from public scrutiny, increasingly shape global conflict and government policy. The episode is irreverent, pointed, and heavy on dark humor about America’s elite power brokers, shadow government, and the eroding boundaries between Silicon Valley and the state.
Timestamps: [01:16]–[06:38], [08:23]–[14:08], [27:19]–[31:18]
Karp’s Statements:
Palantir’s Role:
Quotes & Memorable Moments:
Critical Commentary:
Timestamps: [08:23]–[14:08], [17:02]–[24:09]
Mark Crispin Miller’s Summary of Karp’s Philosophy:
Surveillance State Expansion:
Shadow/‘Supra-Government’:
Timestamps: [32:21]–[51:32]
Interview with Mark Crispin Miller:
Academic & Media Backlash:
Wider Implications:
Timestamps: [52:10]–[57:41]
US foreign policy is critiqued as being driven by economic racketeering rather than professed reasons (fentanyl, oil, defense):
Manipulation of public funds and use of hidden treasuries for unaccountable spending.
This episode blends dark comedy and incisive criticism to illuminate the ways in which private tech firms, intelligence agencies, and entrenched power structures operate. The Palantir episode becomes a symbol of the new world order where “democracy” is a smokescreen for oligarchy and private power. The hosts express deep skepticism toward government and the corporate media, concluding that only mass awakening—possibly triggered by economic collapse—could change the system.
Final Tone: Outraged, irreverent, deeply skeptical; laced with gallows humor but undergirded by real alarm over the direction of American democracy and global governance.