The Jimmy Dore Show – Episode Summary

Episode: WORST LIES YET About Charlie Kirk’s Assassination! w/ Ian Carroll
Date: October 13, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guest: Ian Carroll

Overview

This episode dives deep into the continuing controversies, conspiracies, and media narratives surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, with focus on recent text leaks, group chat drama, shifting political stances, and the wider context of U.S.-Israel-Palestine relations. Ian Carroll joins Jimmy Dore for a detailed discussion, unpacking claims from figures like Josh Hammer and Candace Owens about the circumstances and aftermath of Kirk's assassination, as well as the broader political context, including recent ceasefire deals in Gaza, allegations of media bias, and Israel’s ongoing war policies. The episode maintains The Jimmy Dore Show’s trademark irreverence and direct questioning of mainstream narratives.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Media Narrative and Charlie Kirk's Last Days

• Context Setting: Jimmy Dore recaps the events leading up to Charlie Kirk’s assassination, focusing on leaked text messages, Kirk's evolving public stance on Israel, and the subsequent media circus.
• Lauran Witzky Tweet: Kirk allegedly had a combative meeting regarding his pro-Israel stance (08:04–09:31).
• Kirk’s Alleged Break from Pro-Israel Orthodoxy: A now-infamous group chat message reportedly showed Kirk distancing himself from Israel after pressure from Jewish donors.
• Josh Hammer's Defense: Hammer, a conservative media figure, claims Kirk was merely “blowing off steam” in a private chat and remains committed to Israel – a narrative Dore and Carroll view with deep skepticism.

"Just lost another huge Jewish donor. Two million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." – Leaked Kirk text quoted by Jimmy Dore (11:36)

2. Dissecting the Leaks & Who’s Lying?

• Josh Hammer’s Statements: Hammer labels Candace Owens a “lunatic” (11:51), calling claims of a Kirk/Israel break an “egregious lie”.
• Critical Pushback: Jimmy Dore and Ian Carroll highlight circumstantial evidence and contradictions, pointing out how Hammer’s own involvement and delayed admissions undercut his narrative (12:46–13:32).
• Notable Segment: Hammer’s 2013 tweet advocating public executions is referenced as being resurfaced right before Kirk's assassination, raising more questions (15:04–17:29).

"He says an unwell lunatic used screenshots...to impugn my character...and alleged I somehow had foreknowledge or worse of my own friend's horrific assassination." – Josh Hammer's defense, read by Jimmy Dore (11:52)

3. Turning Point USA, Internal Politics, and Debates

• Debate Context: Ian Carroll details a prior debate at TPUSA between Dave Smith and Hammer, suggesting Charlie Kirk was setting up a platform for more critical discussion of Israel, and that this had far-reaching consequences within TPUSA (20:39–23:27).
• Implication: These public debates and shifting stances fed both donor anxieties and conspiracy theories regarding Kirk's allegiances and his murder.

4. Candace Owens’ Conspiracy Claims and Alternate Shooter Theory

• Bullet and Ballistics: Candace Owens questions the ‘miraculous’ lack of an exit wound or visible blood in video footage of Kirk's shooting, positing the possibility of a second shooter and a concerted effort to manufacture a single-shooter narrative (39:31–41:45).
• Quote/Evidence: She relays claims from witnesses who recall hearing two shots—testimonies omitted from mainstream coverage.
• Ian Carroll’s Analysis: Carroll unpacks the evidence, noting inconsistencies with the official narrative about the bullet’s trajectory and highlights the significance of absent ballistic evidence (43:01–48:16).

"Not only did the bullet not pierce through, there wasn't a single dot of blood on Charlie's bleach white shirt until he falls out of frame..." – Candace Owens (39:37)

"The first thing you do in a murder by gunshot is you get the bullet because the bullet is what matches the crime to the gun." – Ian Carroll (47:12)

5. Ceasefire and Palestinian Statehood Prospects

• Ceasefire Framework: Brief summary of a newly brokered ceasefire, involving Israeli withdrawal, hostages exchanges, and Gaza governance by "technocrats" (24:50–28:26).
• Scott Ritter’s Perspective: Quoted saying the ceasefire amounts to Hamas “winning everything they wanted” (27:08–28:26).
• Ian Carroll’s Take: Expresses skepticism, noting the profiteering possible from reconstruction and the influence of outside “technocrats” tied to international financial power centers (30:21–32:49, 55:32–58:01).
• Skepticism on Israeli Compliance: Both hosts and guest emphasize Israel’s history of breaking ceasefires and suspect the current pause may not last (34:06–35:04, 39:04–39:17).

6. Netanyahu’s Motives and Israeli Political Reality

• Motivation to Continue War: Dore and Carroll discuss Netanyahu’s personal incentive to perpetuate conflict as a means of avoiding prosecution for corruption (51:03–53:51).
• Lack of Mainstream Coverage: Critique over U.S. media’s failure to confront or even acknowledge Netanyahu’s self-serving incentives and the broader Greater Israel project (53:51–55:13).

7. Destruction in Gaza & Media Bias

• Visual Coverage: The episode references before-and-after video footage of Gaza, reinforcing the irreversible destruction (58:01–59:43).
• Mainstream Media Criticism: The panel lambasts U.S./Western media for rationalizing civilian casualties and failing to provide critical coverage of Israeli policy (59:43–60:06).

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• On the Leaked Kirk Texts:
  “Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” (Jimmy Dore reading, 11:36)

• On Josh Hammer’s Defense:
  “An unwell lunatic used screenshots...to impugn my character...alleged I somehow had foreknowledge...” (Jimmy Dore quoting Hammer, 11:52)

• On Bullet Trajectory Doubts:
  “If it was a 30-06, it would have blown his head clean off.” (Jimmy Dore, 48:33)

• On the Ceasefire ‘Deal’:
  “This is a Hamas peace treaty...Hamas is getting everything they asked for...why would Hamas do this?” (Scott Ritter quoted by Jimmy Dore, 27:08–27:54)

• On Israel Breaking Ceasefires:
  “The classic Israeli tactic of trying to kill as many people and children as possible before the ceasefire goes into effect is pretty good evidence that it’s not really about the hostages at all.” (Jimmy Dore, 50:00–51:03)

• On Netanyahu’s Motive:
  “For Benjamin Netanyahu, it’s really just self preservation...because the moment...he’s no longer prime minister...he’s going to prison.” (Ian Carroll, 51:03–52:05)

• On Media Ownership and Coverage:
  “It’s not surprising when you actually look at who owns and runs all the media company...not just Israelis but Jewish Zionists as well.” (Ian Carroll, 55:13)

Segment Timestamps

• [08:04–11:51]: Dissecting the Kirk-Leaked Group Chat and Pro-Israel Donor Pressure
• [11:52–13:32]: Josh Hammer’s Responses and Credibility Attack
• [20:39–23:27]: TPUSA, Debates, and Candace Owens’ Warning
• [24:50–28:26]: New Gaza Ceasefire – Prisoner Exchange and “Technocrat” Rule
• [39:31–41:45]: Candace Owens’ Alternate Shooter Theory
• [43:01–48:16]: Ballistics, Extraction of Bullets, and Official Narrative Criticism
• [51:03–53:51]: Netanyahu’s Corruption Crisis and Mainstream Media Silence
• [58:01–59:43]: Devastation in Gaza – Visuals and Rebuilding Skepticism

Tone & Style

• Direct, irreverent, and openly critical of mainstream media and official narratives.
• Frequent satire, sarcasm, and dark humor, especially regarding U.S. politics, Israeli policy, and media figures.
• The episode balances skepticism, mockery, and genuine concern for victims of violence and war.

Conclusion

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show presents a rigorous takedown of mainstream narratives surrounding Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the fallout, and alleged coverups by figures like Josh Hammer. With support from Ian Carroll, Dore questions official and media accounts, contextualizes the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict, and highlights the self-interested motives of powerful political and media actors involved. Candace Owens’ claims of a “second shooter” and the bullet’s mystery add fuel to the conspiracy debate, while larger questions of war profiteering and media control frame the broader discussion. The episode ends with a somber reminder of the destruction in Gaza, skepticism about lasting peace, and stinging criticisms of media complicity.